Monday, September 10, 2007

7 new messages in 4 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Do you like paying for air? (food packages) - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/af114586924248d4?hl=en
* Tomato paste - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bf6768d86eb5418f?hl=en
* Cheapest phone service? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f1858f5d0fc539ed?hl=en
* evidence for legalization of pedophilia - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b576e4b85b53911a?hl=en

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TOPIC: Do you like paying for air? (food packages)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/af114586924248d4?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 6:04 pm
From: Marsha


OhioGuy wrote:

> Recently, I noticed that a local grocery store started putting more air,
> and less product, in their store brand potato chip bags. 2 months ago, the
> bags had 12 ounces of potato chips - now they have 8. A couple of years
> ago, they had 14 ounces. I remember that about 6 or 7 years ago, it was a
> full 16 ounces - a pound.
>
> Now they are putting half the product in the bags, but they have left the
> price the same - a dollar. I would much rather that they leave the size of
> the product the same, and I find it insulting that they make the bags look
> the same size, and they are the same price, but you only get half what you
> did a few years ago.
>
> The same has happened to a lesser extent with several other items - graham
> crackers, for instance. The boxes used to have a full pound. Now it is 14
> ounces, and there is empty space in the box.
>
> Why do they do this? It infuriates me, and makes me feel like my
> intelligence is being insulted.
>
>

You can be sure that anything marked New and Improved
will be less of a value to the consumer. Bleach is one
example that comes to mind. The non-splash bottle has
about 4-6 oz. less than the regular bleach bottle, yet
charges the same price. Go figure....
Marsha/Ohio

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 6:55 pm
From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black)


"OhioGuy" (none@none.net) writes:
> Now they are putting half the product in the bags, but they have left the
> price the same - a dollar. I would much rather that they leave the size of
> the product the same, and I find it insulting that they make the bags look
> the same size, and they are the same price, but you only get half what you
> did a few years ago.
>
But maybe they've discovered that raising the price diminishes sales. So
cutting the size is a way of keeping the price the same when costs go up.

Take note that potato chips are a lousy example to use for your rant.
Because by nature they are packed with air, since the air protects the
product. You can put quite a bit of weight on a bag of potato chips before
it will break, but note that it doesn't take much to crush an open bag
of chips, and the last thing you want is a bag of potato chip crumbs.

You aren't likely to notice the shrinking chocolate bars, either, since
they shave off a gram or so at a time, and you never notice until
one day when you think "gee, this used to be bigger".

Packaging may also be an issue because it has to integrate into an
existing supply line. At the very least, stores aren't likely to want
to deal with a whole string of can or box sizes, simply because the
various companies have to raise their prices. SO they want the crackers
to keep a constant size box, at least for a reasonable period of time,
and they want cans that generally are the same size.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 7:48 pm
From: Wooly


OhioGuy wrote:
>
> The same has happened to a lesser extent with several other items - graham
> crackers, for instance. The boxes used to have a full pound. Now it is 14
> ounces, and there is empty space in the box.
>
> Why do they do this? It infuriates me, and makes me feel like my
> intelligence is being insulted.
>
>

The answer, of course, is MONEY. You're willing to pay twice as much as
you used to on a per-unit basis for those same chips so of COURSE the
manufacturer is going to take advantage of that fact.

Quit eating chips - your arteries will thank you for it.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 10:39 pm
From: Goomba38


OhioGuy wrote:

> Why do they do this? It infuriates me, and makes me feel like my
> intelligence is being insulted.
>
If you have to ask "why" they are doing it..well.. your intelligence
already does come under question.


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TOPIC: Tomato paste
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bf6768d86eb5418f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 9:50 pm
From: Marie


On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 17:07:08 -0500, Beeblebrox
<beeblebrox.ag.NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

>i'm thinking ice trays might be easier to do large batches next time. I
>know the food shows suggest them for lots of things. Freeze in the
>trays, they pop into a ziplock. No idea if it leaves a taste in the ice
>tray.

That's how I made baby food when the baby was first eating "solids".
It never left a taste in the trays that I noticed.
Marie


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TOPIC: Cheapest phone service?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f1858f5d0fc539ed?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 10:12 pm
From: "bat"


S> My roommate decided he doesn't want to pay for a land phone line to our
S> place (it's fair, he almost always uses a cell) but I need one for the
S> internet.
S> What's the cheapest phone service? Is there anything in the $9-$12 range
S> for reliable bare-bones not-per-hour service?
S> I live in the north texas/DFW area.

http://www.freedomlist.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=10


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TOPIC: evidence for legalization of pedophilia
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b576e4b85b53911a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 10:36 pm
From: commander zero rides


On Sep 9, 9:38 pm, commander zero rides <commander_x...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Another piece of evidence is the Rind Report, written by 2 psychology
professors at Temple University, Boston: Drs. Rind and Tromavich.


This academic paper demolishes the arguments that pedophilia causes
harm. It states that many of the studies themselves are flawed because
of the bias of the people conducting the studies.

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