Frugal Living: 24 new messages in 13 topics

Sunday, October 14, 2007

24 new messages in 13 topics - digest

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TOPIC: Bush To Let Illegal Aliens Get $40 Digital TV Coupons
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 12:44 am
From: Anthony Matonak

David Johnston wrote:
> What he should have said was "Walls don't work over frontiers that are
> more than a thousand miles long just on land plus gigantic
> coastlines."

Well, walls alone aren't the answer. You also need land mines,
electronic surveillance and guys with guns. No wall, all by itself,
is going to keep anyone out of anything. It's just there to slow them
down enough that the guys with guns can discourage them further.

This assumes, of course, you really want to stop anyone from crossing
the line. It seems the United States doesn't want to do that and is
willing to throw people in jail if they try.

Anthony

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 2:29 am
From: "Rod Speed"

David Johnston <david@block.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:00:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Walls don't work,
>>
>> Have fun explaining the one in Isreal that works fine, dramatically
>> reducing the number who avoid checkpoints between Isreal and
>> Palestine etc.
>
> What he should have said was "Walls don't work over frontiers that are
> more than a thousand miles long just on land plus gigantic coastlines."

Depends entirely on how you define work.

They still dramatically reduce the number who avoid checkpoints.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 9:04 am
From: Audie Murphy's Ghost

In article <4711c828$0$16482$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, Anthony Matonak
<anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:

> David Johnston wrote:
> > What he should have said was "Walls don't work over frontiers that are
> > more than a thousand miles long just on land plus gigantic
> > coastlines."
>
> Well, walls alone aren't the answer. You also need land mines,
> electronic surveillance and guys with guns. No wall, all by itself,
> is going to keep anyone out of anything. It's just there to slow them
> down enough that the guys with guns can discourage them further.
>
> This assumes, of course, you really want to stop anyone from crossing
> the line. It seems the United States doesn't want to do that and is
> willing to throw people in jail if they try.

So now you want to blow people up and shoot them for crossing a border.
How North Korean of you.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 9:08 am
From: Audie Murphy's Ghost

In article <5ne5s5FhscesU2@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> David Johnston <david@block.net> wrote:
> > On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:00:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> Walls don't work,
> >>
> >> Have fun explaining the one in Isreal that works fine, dramatically
> >> reducing the number who avoid checkpoints between Isreal and
> >> Palestine etc.
> >
> > What he should have said was "Walls don't work over frontiers that are
> > more than a thousand miles long just on land plus gigantic coastlines."
>
> Depends entirely on how you define work.

Oh, stop it. You want to define how a wall works? How do you *think*
a wall works? Is that anywhere in your cut-and-paste macros?

> They still dramatically reduce the number who avoid checkpoints.

"Dramatically reduce." That sounds all Fox Newsy and everything, but
how about some specifics? Are there any?

And you must have missed the bit about how the Israeli wall is seven
years behind schedule, and that a third of it hasn't been built. I
wonder how an unfinished wall can dramatically protect anybody.

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TOPIC: Buy local produce
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 12:51 am
From: Anthony Matonak

AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> "Shawn Hirn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>> AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
>>>> we can't grow oranges and bananas here. or grapefruit. or pineapple.
>>>> then again, we don't have giant, hissing cockroaches, either. :)
>>> If you spend enough money, you can grow anything anywhere.
>> Perhaps, but $10 a pound oranges and bananas won't sell well.
>
> and think of the energy required. which of course defeats the purpose.

I wonder how much energy would be required. After all, greenhouses seem
to work pretty well and most of those are just solar heated. Sometimes
the problem is too much sunlight (energy) and they sell shade cloth to
block it.

Anthony

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 2:52 am
From: Stan Horwitz

In article <4711c988$0$25652$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:

> AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> > "Shawn Hirn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
> >>> AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> >>>> we can't grow oranges and bananas here. or grapefruit. or pineapple.
> >>>> then again, we don't have giant, hissing cockroaches, either. :)
> >>> If you spend enough money, you can grow anything anywhere.
> >> Perhaps, but $10 a pound oranges and bananas won't sell well.
> >
> > and think of the energy required. which of course defeats the purpose.
>
> I wonder how much energy would be required. After all, greenhouses seem
> to work pretty well and most of those are just solar heated. Sometimes
> the problem is too much sunlight (energy) and they sell shade cloth to
> block it.

Hydroponic gardening would probably work for some crops, but I have
never tasted a piece of hydroponically grown produce that actually had
flavor.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 1:28 am
From: Rico

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TOPIC: Winter's Coming: Window Cracks and Leaks
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 2:02 am
From: PaPaPeng

There are cracks up to a quarter inch wide between the the window
frame and the inside window trim. It had been letting in cold air and
leaking out warm air out for years. I had not done anything because I
tolerate cold better and always set my thermostat to 72 deg F. The
average gas bill hasn't changed for years and the furnace wasn't
exactly knocking itself out unless it gets to minus twenty deg F or C.
Its an unreliable measure of energy loss for sure.

The window frames were tight and secure to the stucco finish so there
were no repairs or caulking possible there without making the problem
something major. Same thing inside the house. The window trim was
also tight and secure against the wall. No adjustments were possible.
I didn't like the idea of those aerosol cans of squeeze foam
insulation as they are sticky and would be impossible to remove if
they didn't work and I come around to redoing the window repairs.
This is indeed fortunate because I chatted with my neighbor and he
said never to use that stuff. He did and the foam accelerated the
cracks in his windows over the years and he has a real problem now.
My other porposed solution was to stuff the cracks with fiberglass
insulation and glue or nail a thin slat of woodover the whole inside
window trim to cover the repairs. I have a well equipped garage
workshop and can do that except I procrastinate (long story).

On saturday my sister stayed over (I live alone) and refused to sleep
in the leaky cold bedroom preferring the sofa. By the morning she
insisted on fixing the cracks and asked for those 1/4 inch rolls of
sticky backed foam tape weatherstrip to at least temporarily close the
cracks. Then she found I had leftover laminate flooring underlay foam
sheet scraps. She used these instead and they are an excellent
material as they are formulated for years of servive as flooring
underlay. They are also strong and flexible and therefore will
conform and fill the cracks to the edges. I love the solution. I
wasn't too impressed with the foam weatherstrip material as they lose
their elasticity and therefore seal effectiveness after a season or
two. They are also hard to trim to size to fit the cracks.

My next step is to find a roll of self adhesive vinyl shelf liner
contact "paper" with a suitable design and use that to finish the
window trim and cover the cracks. Sis had asked for duct tape or
transparent box tape, a pretty ugly, temporary idea (they dry up and
deterioate) that leaves a messy residue when its time to remove them.

I am a pretty happy man. If this fix doesn't work I can easily undo
everything without risking a messy cleanup. But I am confident that
the fix will be good for years and I can always do the same fix at
some future time should that become necessary.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 3:21 am
From: Al Bundy

On Oct 14, 5:02 am, PaPaPeng <PaPaP...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> There are cracks up to a quarter inch wide between the the window
> frame and the inside window trim. It had been letting in cold air and
> leaking out warm air out for years. I had not done anything because I
> tolerate cold better and always set my thermostat to 72 deg F. The
> average gas bill hasn't changed for years and the furnace wasn't
> exactly knocking itself out unless it gets to minus twenty deg F or C.
> Its an unreliable measure of energy loss for sure.
>
> The window frames were tight and secure to the stucco finish so there
> were no repairs or caulking possible there without making the problem
> something major. Same thing inside the house. The window trim was
> also tight and secure against the wall. No adjustments were possible.
> I didn't like the idea of those aerosol cans of squeeze foam
> insulation as they are sticky and would be impossible to remove if
> they didn't work and I come around to redoing the window repairs.
> This is indeed fortunate because I chatted with my neighbor and he
> said never to use that stuff. He did and the foam accelerated the
> cracks in his windows over the years and he has a real problem now.
> My other porposed solution was to stuff the cracks with fiberglass
> insulation and glue or nail a thin slat of woodover the whole inside
> window trim to cover the repairs. I have a well equipped garage
> workshop and can do that except I procrastinate (long story).
>
> On saturday my sister stayed over (I live alone) and refused to sleep
> in the leaky cold bedroom preferring the sofa. By the morning she
> insisted on fixing the cracks and asked for those 1/4 inch rolls of
> sticky backed foam tape weatherstrip to at least temporarily close the
> cracks. Then she found I had leftover laminate flooring underlay foam
> sheet scraps. She used these instead and they are an excellent
> material as they are formulated for years of servive as flooring
> underlay. They are also strong and flexible and therefore will
> conform and fill the cracks to the edges. I love the solution. I
> wasn't too impressed with the foam weatherstrip material as they lose
> their elasticity and therefore seal effectiveness after a season or
> two. They are also hard to trim to size to fit the cracks.
>
> My next step is to find a roll of self adhesive vinyl shelf liner
> contact "paper" with a suitable design and use that to finish the
> window trim and cover the cracks. Sis had asked for duct tape or
> transparent box tape, a pretty ugly, temporary idea (they dry up and
> deterioate) that leaves a messy residue when its time to remove them.
>
> I am a pretty happy man. If this fix doesn't work I can easily undo
> everything without risking a messy cleanup. But I am confident that
> the fix will be good for years and I can always do the same fix at
> some future time should that become necessary.

We'll look forward to seeing your home in Better Homes and Gardens.
PS. Insulation foam is very easy to remove, but yes, the expansion can
force things open.
It sounds like you need new windows and a furnace.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 5:17 am
From: "Don K"

"PaPaPeng" <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:unm3h3hfm6vgj7f461esjekbbtuoeja9bi@4ax.com...

> My next step is to find a roll of self adhesive vinyl shelf liner
> contact "paper" with a suitable design and use that to finish the
> window trim and cover the cracks. Sis had asked for duct tape or
> transparent box tape, a pretty ugly, temporary idea (they dry up and
> deterioate) that leaves a messy residue when its time to remove them.

I've used drywall patch compound to fill cracks and gaps around trim.
You can sand it smooth and paint over it when you need to.
I haven't had any further problems with cracks reappearing.

If reappearing cracks are an issue, a rubbery type bathroom caulk might
be used instead, but it's messier. If you use caulk, make sure you use a
paintable one.

Don

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 6:01 am
From: PaPaPeng

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:17:51 -0400, "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com>
wrote:

>"PaPaPeng" <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:unm3h3hfm6vgj7f461esjekbbtuoeja9bi@4ax.com...
>
>> My next step is to find a roll of self adhesive vinyl shelf liner
>> contact "paper" with a suitable design and use that to finish the
>> window trim and cover the cracks. Sis had asked for duct tape or
>> transparent box tape, a pretty ugly, temporary idea (they dry up and
>> deterioate) that leaves a messy residue when its time to remove them.
>
>I've used drywall patch compound to fill cracks and gaps around trim.
>You can sand it smooth and paint over it when you need to.
>I haven't had any further problems with cracks reappearing.
>
>If reappearing cracks are an issue, a rubbery type bathroom caulk might
>be used instead, but it's messier. If you use caulk, make sure you use a
>paintable one.
>
>Don
>
The drywall patch compound and the caulking will both need a dam to
keep the material from occupying all the space available for it to
squeeze into inside the wall. The insulation space in the wall would
have been a bottomless pit. A quarter inch in crack (actually its
just the trim separating) is pretty large. Without a dam the
caulking or drywall paste will also slump. But now with the underlay
foam it should be possible to caulk and keep the caulking near the
surface. I'll let the present fix prove itself for several seasons
first. If it works I'd rather redo this as a future fix than to do
something permanent like (hard to clean up) caulking.

My furnace gas regulator quit again. There are no repairable or
swappable sub assemblies. By law the parts store cannot stock let
alone sell sub assemblies. The whole regulator has to be replaced
Will do that tomorrow. My 30 yr old furnace otherwise looks brand new
and everything in good condition.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 7:44 am
From: "Don K"

"PaPaPeng" <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ai34h3pg20jc6e8bfertsnljkuaan2f42q@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:17:51 -0400, "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"PaPaPeng" <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:unm3h3hfm6vgj7f461esjekbbtuoeja9bi@4ax.com...
>>
>>> My next step is to find a roll of self adhesive vinyl shelf liner
>>> contact "paper" with a suitable design and use that to finish the
>>> window trim and cover the cracks. Sis had asked for duct tape or
>>> transparent box tape, a pretty ugly, temporary idea (they dry up and
>>> deterioate) that leaves a messy residue when its time to remove them.
>>
>>I've used drywall patch compound to fill cracks and gaps around trim.
>>You can sand it smooth and paint over it when you need to.
>>I haven't had any further problems with cracks reappearing.
>>
>>If reappearing cracks are an issue, a rubbery type bathroom caulk might
>>be used instead, but it's messier. If you use caulk, make sure you use a
>>paintable one.
>>
>>Don
>>
> The drywall patch compound and the caulking will both need a dam to
> keep the material from occupying all the space available for it to
> squeeze into inside the wall. The insulation space in the wall would
> have been a bottomless pit. A quarter inch in crack (actually its
> just the trim separating) is pretty large. Without a dam the
> caulking or drywall paste will also slump. But now with the underlay
> foam it should be possible to caulk and keep the caulking near the
> surface. I'll let the present fix prove itself for several seasons
> first. If it works I'd rather redo this as a future fix than to do
> something permanent like (hard to clean up) caulking.

I mis-spoke, I meant lightweight spackling compound, not joint compound.
Specifically I use DAP Fast'n'Final. It has the density of a plastic peanut.
It's light enough that it will stay in place even in an upside-down gap
while it dries. For really big gaps, I insert some sticky nylon webbing
tape to give it some structural cohesion.

Don

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 2:17 am
From: gino@realtyagent.com

Subject: PC38255 Thank you for contacting eBay Customer Support.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 2:25 am
From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu

Shadowland <saints2060@yahoo.com> wrote:

> With a filled refrig you'll find your frig saving energy.

No.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 4:26 am
From: Kent Wills

As was fortold by the sage, on Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:36:57 -0400,
"Chloe" <justsayno@spam.com> wrote:

>"Bill" <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:5n6voqFgfra2U1@mid.individual.net...
>>I usually eat at home, but was too worn out to cook and stopped at the
>>fried chicken place on the way home. Been a while since I have been there
>>as their prices are so high.
><snip>
>
>I don't buy fast food fried chicken unless I have a coupon or it's on some
>kind of sale. The exception is occasionally at Popeye's, where I ended up
>spending something like $7 recently for a couple pieces of chicken and two
>sides. I know food prices are skyrocketing but I agree with you, there are
>too many other better options for that kind of money.
>
>The home-town grocery chain's ready-to-eat whole chickens have been
>shrinking in size and are often overcooked and dried out. Sam's Club sells a
>large, perfectly roasted bird for $4.99, the same price as the grocery's
>smaller one. Aldi also carries the refrigerated Tyson whole roasted chickens
>for the same price, if you want to keep one on hand in the freezer for those
>times when standing in line at Sam's behind someone stocking up for their
>restaurant seems too discouraging <g>.
>
>

Something most don't know: Kirkwood, the "name brand" Aldi
sell, is Tyson.
On the off chance someone is curious as to how I know this...

I have a relative who works for Tyson. She arranged for me to
have a tour of one of their plants. I think it was the Chick-N-Quick
plant in Rogers.
The day I was there, one line was packaging Kirkwood chicken
strips. I asked what the difference was between the product going
into the Kirkwood bags and the product going into the Tyson bags the
next line over. I was informed there's no difference. The people
making and cooking the strips on the other end of the plant have no
idea what packaging will be used.
I'm a vegetarian, so I wouldn't buy either brand, but if I did
eat meat, I would be buying it at Aldi, since it would be cheaper.

--
Kent

Aspire to inspire before you expire.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 4:33 am
From: Kent Wills

As was fortold by the sage, on Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:48:54 -0500, "John
A. Weeks III" <john@johnweeks.com> wrote:

>> "Bill" <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:5n6voqFgfra2U1@mid.individual.net...
>> > I usually eat at home, but was too worn out to cook and stopped at the
>> fried
>> > chicken place on the way home. Been a while since I have been there as
>> their
>> > prices are so high.
>> >
>> > Anyway I wanted a 3 piece meal, which the last time I went there, included
>> 3
>> > pieces of chicken, a biscuit, mashed potatoes, and cole slaw.
>> >
>> > Well it was no longer on their menu! They changed the menu.
>> >
>> > The only "meals" they had started at a 6 piece meal at around $12.
>> >
>> > Ok, so I ordered the 6 piece meal and asked for mashed potatoes and cole
>> > slaw.
>> >
>> > They told me the 6 piece meal only came with one side!
>[ Lots of drivel deleted. ]
>
>If you don't like what they offer, why not go somewhere else?

In a sense, the OP did. He chose to go home and eat.

>Vote with your feet. There are lots of chicken places out
>there. In Miami, there is one on every block. There has
>to be some other choices where you live. Here are some clips
>from a review site:
>
>Church's Chicken:
>Pricing is one area where Churchs makes the grade. Its prices are lower
>than most other chicken restaurants. Its very common, where I live, to
>see special deals like $2.49 for a two- piece chicken meal with two side
>dishes. Even the large, family- size meals are good deals. You can pick
>up an eight- piece meal, with large portions of side dishes, for about
>$7.99. Not a bad price to feed a family of four.
>
>Popeyes Chicken:
>Expect to pay $5 to $6 for lunch or dinner with a beverage. Very
>reasonable, and fairly comparable with other chicken chains.
>

I've never eaten at Church's, so I can't comment. When I did
eat meat, I ate at Popeyes whenever possible when I wished to go out.
Back in the early late 80's and very early 90's, they were the
absolute best IMO.

>We have a lot of Boston Market's in my area, and they have
>2-item chicken meals for $4.99 and $5.99.
>
>There is also Kentucky Fried Chicken, Browns Chicken, Chick
>Fil A, and a now days, just about every super market has
>a deli counter that has fried chicken meals.
>
>All I can say is that you seemed to go out of the way to find
>some off the wall place, and then rather than leave, you want
>to whine about it. That isn't a very mature way to act.
>

The OP did leave though.
I'm not sure what he hoped to gain by complaining here since
the name of the restaurant wasn't given. My *guess* while reading the
post was that it was KFC, but that was, and is, nothing more than a
guess.

--
Kent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJfS1v-fU0

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 9:19 am
From: Dennis

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:42:25 -0700, Anthony Matonak
<anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:

>As others have said, the owners probably left it up to the underpaid
>installers to choose the location. These installers don't care about
>appearances. This is the same reason that the trash cans hardly ever
>match the style of the house.

Does your house look like a trashcan?

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--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 10:41 am
From: "Chloe"

"Dennis" <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1bg4h3hhj0d5e64764k3sbkj4rjcva2d4o@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:42:25 -0700, Anthony Matonak
> <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>As others have said, the owners probably left it up to the underpaid
>>installers to choose the location. These installers don't care about
>>appearances. This is the same reason that the trash cans hardly ever
>>match the style of the house.
>
> Does your house look like a trashcan?

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