Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 12 topics

Tuesday, October 30, 2007

25 new messages in 12 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Student Loan Consolidation - 5.375% Rate
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 12:02 am
From: sanwan

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TOPIC: CFL's
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 1:26 am
From: "aesthete8@hotmail.com"

What about those of us who get eyestrain headaches from flourescent
lights?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 1:37 am
From: Greggie Gibson

"aesthete8@hotmail.com" <aesthete8@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1193732804.121350.241740@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> What about those of us who get eyestrain headaches from flourescent
> lights?
>
>

Get a better CFL or better yet get an LED light which is even more
efficient.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 1:54 am
From: max

In article <1193732804.121350.241740@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
"aesthete8@hotmail.com" <aesthete8@hotmail.com> wrote:

> What about those of us who get eyestrain headaches from flourescent
> lights?

what do you mean? what about CFLs do you think gives you headaches?

--
The part of betatron @ earthlink . net was played by a garden gnome

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TOPIC: wireless Keyboards
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 1:41 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Vic Smith <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:40:21 +1100, "joe brown" <jb@www.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>> I went even further and use the PC from a deep armchair with my
>>>> feet up.
>>
>>> Oh man! Now that's working!
>>
>> Perfect, I'd never go back to a desk again.
>>
>> Before I changed to that I used to have my feet up on the desk
>> in a decent big desk chair with a separate keyboard in my lap.

> Be careful how you keep your legs.

I try to keep them in my jeans in winter, and in my shorts in summer.

I've heard there can be a problem with the large footed fellas if you dont.

> For a while I had my feet on the desk, and it
> seemed to cause no problem. Very comfortable.

I havent seen any problem in the 40+ years I have been doing it now.

> At some point my knees started hurting when I walked,

I dont ever get that effect.

> but x-rays and an MRI found no problems.
> One day my wife said, "Get your feet off the desk,
> it doesn't look right to have your knees unsupported."
> She pulled up another chair that let me put my legs out but
> supported them under the knees. Knee problems went away.

I never have that problem.

> Use an Ottoman now, as it's easier to manage than the chair.

Thats what I have been using now for 30+ years.

> Instead of legs straight out, I usually keep one foot flat on the Ottoman,

I just have the heel on it.

> crossing the other leg over the flat-footed one.

Thats what I mostly do.

> Makes a good keyboard cradle in my lap too.

Yeah, and I use a cover from an A4 book for the mouse.

And put the keyboard on that and the mouse on the side table when typing anything much like the reply to this post.

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TOPIC: Rechargeable Batteries
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 1:59 am
From: "Pan"

"Logan Shaw" <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4726c3f1$0$32473$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> mAh means milliamp-hours. Milliamps are a measure of electrical
> current, and of course hours are a measure of time. So theoretically
> a 2000 mAh battery could sustain a 100 milliamp current for 20 hours
> or a 1000 milliamp current for 2 hours.

Thank you for your reply.
So if I want a AAA which would last as long or more than a regular duracell
AAA what mAh rated rated rechargeable should I buy?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 3:38 am
From: Jeff

Logan Shaw wrote:
> Pan wrote:
>
>> Can some give some info on rechargeable batteries?
>> 1) What's better, NiCd or NiMh. Or are they meant for
>> different kind of usage.
>
>
> NiMH tends to last longer and have less memory effect. But it also
> costs more. Is it worth it? Depends on whether cost is important.
> Personally, I like NiMH a lot because I like not having to worry
> about the memory effect and just charging them whenever convenient.

Logan has done an excellent job of answering this, I'll just add a
few points. Most of what I'll add is about NiMh.

Apparently for high drain devices like power tools NiCd are superior.
Otherwise NiMh are terrific, particularly in digital cameras. A NiMh
battery will run a camera many times longer than a set of a alkalines
before it needs recharging.

They do have a few quirks though. If your NiMh batteries have been
sitting around they may take several charges before they come up to full
capacity. Once at capacity they have a nice long slow decline of
capacity. Number of charges possible is higher than NiCds. I have seen a
NiMh fail while charging though.
>
>> 2) Batteries have stuff like 1000 mAh, 2000 mAh etc
>> written on them - i would assume that this is the amount of
>> charge they hold - i.e. how long they would last on a single
>> charge for a particular kind of use. For comparison, does
>> anyone know who much charge that a regular non-rechargeable
>> Duracell hold - so that I can figure out what mAh rechargeables
>> I would need?

It's hard to compare becaue you have to consider discharge rates. As
mentioned above I find that NiMh batteries last much longer than
alkalines although they have similar AHr, I *think* a AA alkaline is
around 1500mAHr. Go for the bigger number, particulary within a
manufacturers line. Usual caveats about buying from dollar stores (like
Big Lots) apply.

If you want something in a low drain, long life device like a remote or
firealarm, alkalines should be your choice.
>
>
> mAh means milliamp-hours. Milliamps are a measure of electrical
> current, and of course hours are a measure of time. So theoretically
> a 2000 mAh battery could sustain a 100 milliamp current for 20 hours
> or a 1000 milliamp current for 2 hours.
>
> However, there isn't, as far as I know, any kind of standardized
> measuring procedure to actually come up with the number. You can
> get a different amount of energy out of a battery depending on
> whether you discharge it quickly or slowly, and there are a bunch
> of other variations that could go into the measurement (like that
> how much energy you get out depends also on the voltage the batteries
> are delivering and not just the current), so basically the number
> is not extremely meaningful. You can't say for sure that a 2100
> mAh battery from one manufacturer is going to last longer in your
> particular device than a 1900 mAh battery from another manufacturer.
>
> Also, comparing mAh ratings between different types of batteries
> is more meaningless, because a device will generally keep working
> until the voltage is too low (or the internal resistant of the
> battery is too high), and the voltage drop over time is different
> with different types of batteries. So it really depends on the
> device a lot.
>
>> 3) What is the highest mAh available in the market?
>
>
> Well, that would depend on the size of battery. A D-cell battery is
> physically a lot bigger, so it can get a much higher mAh rating than
> a AAA-cell.
>
> Anyway, you probably don't want the highest available. Designing
> batteries is, from what I understand, a compromise. The ones with
> the very longest lives (how much energy you get out of a single
> charge) are probably not the ones that you can use the most times
> (most charge cycles) before they stop holding a charge and wear out.
>
> And the ones with high mAh ratings tend to cost more, and there's
> definitely a law of diminishing returns where it'd be better to
> buy 3 sets of batteries that last a little less time than 2 sets
> that last only slightly longer.

NiMh tend to come at a max size of AA, I've seen covers that turn AA's
into D's. About 2700mAhr was the biggest I saw last time I went shopping.

>
>> 4) Are there good & bad brands for the rechareable batteries &
>> the chargers?
>
>
> Yes. From what I can tell MAHA is a pretty good brand in general,
> although there are probably other good brands too.
>
>> 5) Let's say I buy a charger & 2000 mAh batteries & tommorow
>> I decide to get 2500 mAh battereries, would I have to buy a new
>> charger or can the same old one charge the 2500 mAh batteries
>> also.
>
>
> You can charge just about anything with just about anything. The
> difference is whether you're shortening the life of the battery
> by overcharging or something else along those lines.

The one caveat here is fast charge NiMh. You can't charge regular
batteries in a fast charge NiMh charger. But the slow chargers dominate
the market anyways. The fast chargers and batteries are clearly marked.

Most of the regular chargers come with a wall wart, you may wish to
look for one with a little more ooomph for a little faster charge as
NiMh can take hours to come up.

>
> Most decent chargers these days have a computerized charging circuit
> where they monitor the voltage of the cells being charged and watch
> for a pattern, then stop the charging at "just" the right moment,
> so with that kind of charger, you can put in almost any battery
> (of the right type -- NiMH or NiCd, or whatever it says in the
> instructions) and it will "just work".
>
> I would go for a smart charger because I feel like if you use a
> lot of batteries, it'll probably pay for itself eventually. I
> personally like the idea of a charger that has a separate circuit
> for every individual battery so that each battery is charged just
> the right amount. But maybe that just makes me feel good.
>
>> 6) I would mainly be requiring AAA but can the same charger charge
>> both AA & AAA cells?

Yes.

Jeff
>
>
> I'm pretty sure that most chargers which charge one charge the other
> as well, but there are some special-purpose chargers that don't.
>
> - Logan

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TOPIC: Apples
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 2:09 am
From: PaPaPeng

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:18:14 -0700, "Jon von Leipzig@mayday.com"
<JonLeipzig@myway.com> wrote:

>On Oct 9, 2:05 pm, "charleymccorm...@gmail.com"
><charleymccorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 2, 1:31 pm, PaPaPeng <PaPaP...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On thisapplethingy, do give your theory on how China managed to grow
>> > from nothing to its domination in so short a time. That's the OP's
>> > question I tried to answer. He and I am certainly very interested in
>> > another explanation.
>
>>>The fact that China is developing newer methods to detect pesticides on apples
>>>proves the point that they are in use...
>
>Wonder if they're also developing (or copying?) ways to detect
>pesticides inside the apples, too.
>
>Systemics (absorbed thru leaves/roots) have been in use for years.
>Years ago, Gerbers, to their credit, stopped buying apples
>from suppliers who used a potentially harmful class of pesticides
>(organophosphates, I think). Even after wasing, peeling, coring,
>they still had hig levels of these critters, which were never tested
>on children/infants.
>
>

I caught only the last 15 minutes of PBS's "Silence of the Bees"
NATURE.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/bees/

There is a worldwide dying of bees that are esential for pollination
of fruit crops among other plants. In China the bees and much else in
insecta had disappeared much earlier. Overuse of pesticides is
blamed. The orchard growers faced ruin. They asked the government
what to do. The advice came back that they would have to do the work
of the bees themselves. And so they did. I don't know enough about
pesticide use currently in China to have an opinion. But I believe
now that the negative consequences are known insecticide use is much
more judicous. The consequences of overuse are obvious.

So the government agencies and the farmers came up with this work
around. Pollen is collected and dried for two days. Then a
pollination wand is made from tying a few down feathers to the tip of
a slim bamboo fly rod. The fluff is dipped into a bottle of pollen
and dusted on the (apple) blossoms. The result is the earlier story
on hand wrapped apples while they mature to perfection. Thje PBS
story quotes the government expert as saying that this hand
pollination method is probably not sustainable. One worker can
pollinate 30 trees. Its hard work As peasants grow richer and find
more rewarding work this practice will probably die off in 20 years or
so. My hope is by then they will find the cure for the bees (dying
off) by then.

As for JonLeipzig's innate racism that anything Chinese must be
inferior an toxic the best rebuttal is that hundreds of millions on
this planet prefer to spend their money where the best buys are. They
live pretty happy and untroubled lives. Jon's fears are self induced.
Only Jon can resolve them.

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Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 2:18 am
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 4:52 am
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TOPIC: Shredded personal documents
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 3:38 am
From: Just A User

Don K wrote:
> "Just A User" <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
> news:WM2dnT_rsKP1zrvanZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> I shred important documents that have personal info on them rather than just throwing
>> them in the recycle or regular trash but what to do with all those shreds? I save them
>> for when I go camping for starting a campfire, but only need a little for this purpose.
>> So if there any frugal / environmentally friendly for getting rid of this waste I would
>> appreciate any suggestions. I hate to help fill up the local landfill if there are any
>> other uses for this stuff.
>>
>> Ken
>
> There's a guy in the midwest that started saving bits of string and now
> has the largest ball of string in the world.
>
> Maybe if you connected the shreds together, they could be wound into
> a ball.
>
> Don
>
>
The world largest paper ball? Interesting. But not something I am
interested in trying. I think I will just compost it like someone else
suggested.

== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 3:39 am
From: Just A User

josh@phred.org wrote:
> Shredder waste composts well.
>
Thanks, I don't know why I didn't thin of that idea, call it brain fade.

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 3:42 am
From: Just A User

Brian Elfert wrote:
> Just A User <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> writes:
>
>> I shred important documents that have personal info on them rather than
>> just throwing them in the recycle or regular trash but what to do with
>> all those shreds? I save them for when I go camping for starting a
>> campfire, but only need a little for this purpose. So if there any
>> frugal / environmentally friendly for getting rid of this waste I would
>> appreciate any suggestions. I hate to help fill up the local landfill if
>> there are any other uses for this stuff.
>
> Why not recycle the shredded paper? If you're worried about someone
> reassembling the strips get a crosscut shredder.
>
It is a cross cut shredder. I guess I could put the shreds in a paper
bag an put it in the recycle. I tried just dumping the shreds in the bin
and they blew all over the neighborhood.

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 3:44 am
From: Just A User

Gary Heston wrote:
> In article <WM2dnT_rsKP1zrvanZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Just A User <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote:
>> I shred important documents that have personal info on them rather than
>> just throwing them in the recycle or regular trash but what to do with
>> all those shreds? I save them for when I go camping for starting a
>> campfire, but only need a little for this purpose. So if there any
>> frugal / environmentally friendly for getting rid of this waste I would
>> appreciate any suggestions. I hate to help fill up the local landfill if
>> there are any other uses for this stuff.
>
> If it's all paper, i.e. no bits of shredded CDs or other hard plastic,
> check with your local animal shelter. They may want it for bedding.
>
> And, once they're done with it, I doubt anyone will ever be able to
> reassemble anything...
>
>
> Gary
>
I wouldn't want to try to reassemble it after that.

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 3:48 am
From: Just A User

Logan Shaw wrote:
> Just A User wrote:
>> I shred important documents that have personal info on them rather
>> than just throwing them in the recycle or regular trash but what to do
>> with all those shreds? I save them for when I go camping for starting
>> a campfire, but only need a little for this purpose. So if there any
>> frugal / environmentally friendly for getting rid of this waste I
>> would appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Collect a bunch of paper together. Soak it in water until it becomes a
> pulp. Then bleach it. Finally, press it out into a very thin sheet,
> let it dry completely, and cut it into rectangles of convenient sizes,
> say 8.5"x11". Then get a pen, and write down all the reasons you could
> possibly have chosen to waste your precious few moments here on the planet
> obsessing over what to do with recyclable paper rather than just putting
> it in the recycle bin. Then go for a hike, or go on a cruise, or write
> a novel, or volunteer for some local group that actually does some good
> in the world, or something. :-)
>
> - Logan
A novel! Great idea, I cam write about all the characters that post to
usenet groups, a.k.a. all the people in my killfile.

== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 4:09 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article <WM2dnT_rsKP1zrvanZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Just A User <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote:

> I shred important documents that have personal info on them rather than
> just throwing them in the recycle or regular trash but what to do with
> all those shreds? I save them for when I go camping for starting a
> campfire, but only need a little for this purpose. So if there any
> frugal / environmentally friendly for getting rid of this waste I would
> appreciate any suggestions. I hate to help fill up the local landfill if
> there are any other uses for this stuff.
>
> Ken

I put the shredded paper in small paper grocery bags and drop them in
the recycling bin.

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 4:17 am
From: Peter Bruells

Just A User <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> writes:

> It is a cross cut shredder. I guess I could put the shreds in a paper
> bag an put it in the recycle. I tried just dumping the shreds in the
> bin and they blew all over the neighborhood.

Assuming you are in the USA: Have paper bags gotten out of fashion?

Myself, I put the shreds into our bin, though not at last. Then only
a few , like 30 or so, escape the bin when it gets
emptied. Neglectable pollution, as they scatter very quickly and
decompose.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 5:19 am
From: Just A User

Peter Bruells wrote:
> Just A User <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> writes:
>
>> It is a cross cut shredder. I guess I could put the shreds in a paper
>> bag an put it in the recycle. I tried just dumping the shreds in the
>> bin and they blew all over the neighborhood.
>
> Assuming you are in the USA: Have paper bags gotten out of fashion?
>
> Myself, I put the shreds into our bin, though not at last. Then only
> a few , like 30 or so, escape the bin when it gets
> emptied. Neglectable pollution, as they scatter very quickly and
> decompose.
Yes I am in the usa. And paper bags have almost completely gone away. At
least in the area I live. The shreds do scatter nicely, and that
certainly would reduce the possibility of someone putting all the little
pieces back together.

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 5:21 am
From: Just A User

Shawn Hirn wrote:
> In article <WM2dnT_rsKP1zrvanZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Just A User <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote:
>
>> I shred important documents that have personal info on them rather than
>> just throwing them in the recycle or regular trash but what to do with
>> all those shreds? I save them for when I go camping for starting a
>> campfire, but only need a little for this purpose. So if there any
>> frugal / environmentally friendly for getting rid of this waste I would
>> appreciate any suggestions. I hate to help fill up the local landfill if
>> there are any other uses for this stuff.
>>
>> Ken
>
> I put the shredded paper in small paper grocery bags and drop them in
> the recycling bin.
I don't get paper bags anywhere. Seems like everywhere I shop gives out
plastic bags. I think I will just start a compost pile with the waste.

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TOPIC: When 50% is actually 27% off....
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 4:29 am
From: "OhioGuy"

>Whether it was an honest mistake or an attempt to >mislead on their part,
>trying or expecting to get $20 from >the manager because you "caught" them
>with a >mislabeled item doesn't seem very Christian to me.

It's store policy - once my wife was in the checkout line, and they caught
the fact that a bag of diapers was marked wrong. We missed it, but they
voluntarily gave us $25+ worth of diapers free. Should I have just said,
"Oh, no thanks, - we don't want the free diapers." ? No, it's a policy they
have in writing.

I believe that large stores like this often mark things incorrectly on
purpose to mislead and get higher profit margins from customers. The "right
price or it's free" policy is put there by corporate headquarters as a check
on this - one that can be enacted by consumers who are paying attention.

At the same store, my wife finds on average that 10% of the time, they try
to overcharge on at least one item.

Once I found steaks that were marked down quite a bit. Each steak had
both

1) a sticker marked 40% off
and
2) a sticker marked $1 off

These are those yellow markdown stickers that only the meat department
guys have, and which come apart if you try to peel one off and put it on
another item, so obviously both were supposed to be on there. (they weren't
moved from another item)

Doing the math, these were $4 steaks that I expected to get for between
$1.40-$1.80, depending on the order that they took the markdowns and applied
the % off. The lady at the checkout counter tried to just give me $1 off,
and I called her on it. She called the butcher guy up front, and he started
saying it was a mistake, and he was actually trying to peel the 40% off
stickers off of my steaks! I had to tell him to go ahead, but that I would
have to notify the district manager that they weren't honoring posted
prices. (which is illegal in our state - to post a discount, then not honor
it) They finally let me have it.

Was I being a "bad Christian" in your book because I stood up for my
consumer rights, and tried to get our budget to stretch a bit more? I think
not. Turning the other cheek does not mean giving up when somebody doesn't
want to honor an advertised or posted deal.

Besides, even Jesus got angry and violent once when he noticed marketers
profiteering at the public's expense. Remember, at the temple, where a
number of merchants were selling sub-par sheep for sacrifice at inflated
prices? They were taking advantage of people, and Jesus experienced
righteous indignation. He angrily drove the whole bunch of them out of the
temple.

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TOPIC: Be Aware of Third Party Mobile Batteries
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 4:32 am
From: sara shh

How will you extend the life of the battery for longer? Consider the
following recommendations...
http://personaltechinfo.googlepages.com/be_aware_of_third_party_batteries

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TOPIC: Traffic To Your Website???How can Grow Your Website???
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 30 2007 4:53 am
From: ati

Traffic To Your Website???How can Grow Your Website???

You've got some content on your site. You are looking to get the word
about your site out there. Getting a marked increase in web site
traffic can be a challenging task for webmasters, especially aspiring
webmasters. Internet traffic plays a huge role in determining the
success of your web site.

http://tipsandtricks.sokmo.net/?p=55

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