Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 11 topics

Wednesday, November 7, 2007

25 new messages in 11 topics - digest

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Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 9:41 pm
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TOPIC: Do all long-distance carriers now charge a monthly fee?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 4:11 pm
From: Rick

Bill wrote:
>
> Doc wrote:
> >
> > Not a tremendous amount of money, but wondering if there's any LD
> > carrier that doesn't charge anything if I don't make calls.
>
> Ask your local provider if they offer their own LD. I have
> Verizon and I was able to pick Verizon LD with no monthly fee.
> However, that was a while ago and things may have changed (but
> it still pays to call and ask).
>
> Bill

Bill, did you miss the thread earlier in the year about Verizon changing
that policy?

Verizon LD *used* to not have a monthly fee. But as of April this year
Verizon now assesses a "shortfall charge" of $2.19 a month, when you
include the taxes. As they explain it the "shortfall charge" is the
minimum you pay if you don't use any long distance service. "Shortfall"
- I feel so inadequate somehow... 8-)

At the time they implemented this fee change there were also several
reports of Verizon assigning themselves as the LD carrier to people who
intentionally had no LD carrier assigned to their phone.

Better check your bills going back to April 2007 - when Verizon started
assessing the "shortfall charge" for LD service.

Rick

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 5:13 pm
From: werner_cai@hotmail.com

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:12 pm
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TOPIC: action against Argos on faulty goods
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 5:32 pm
From: rainandsnow

Anthony R. Gold wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:07:58 GMT, "johngood_____" <void@void.net> wrote:
>
>> What action might I take with Argos, since I'm fed up that they can just
>> say, "its a year", so tough luck. Thanks for any advice.
>
> Manufacturer's often offer a one year warranty in addition to any and all
> legal rights you have against the supplier.

NIKON didn't around 2 years ago when my Coolpix 2100 went wrong just out
of a years guarantee. They did reply to emails but would not help other
than direct me to a repair centre who wanted £60 to repair it.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 5:40 pm
From: "Anthony R. Gold"

On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:32:12 +0000, rainandsnow
<therainandsnow@NOTTHISBITyahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Anthony R. Gold wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:07:58 GMT, "johngood_____" <void@void.net> wrote:
>>
>>> What action might I take with Argos, since I'm fed up that they can just
>>> say, "its a year", so tough luck. Thanks for any advice.
>>
>> Manufacturer's often offer a one year warranty in addition to any and all
>> legal rights you have against the supplier.
>
> NIKON didn't around 2 years ago when my Coolpix 2100 went wrong just out
> of a years guarantee. They did reply to emails but would not help other
> than direct me to a repair centre who wanted £60 to repair it.

Why do you say they did not afford you a 12 month warranty when your
account sounds very much like they did. Who was the seller/supplier of
your camera and did you try to approach them for assistance or redress?

Tony

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TOPIC: vacuum cleaner-comparison-best buy
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 5:51 pm
From: Andy Dingley

On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:06:18 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
<davidlang@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>There is a very good reason for this........

But what is that? Is it really beyond the wit of vacuum cleaner
designers to take one of the cheaper products on the market and make
something comparably good? Yet no-one seems capable of it. Henry isn't
earth-shatteringly good in some peculiar manner, but no other maker
seems to get anywhere close to it. Dyson charge an arm and a leg, but
they can't even make a reliable mains flex!

Mind you, I'd spend the few extra quid and get the even better
steel-cased Henry instead, the NVQ250 (they ought to call it "Ron")

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 5:55 pm
From: Andy Dingley

On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:13:53 -0000, "Tim.."
<the.farm.no@spam.btinternet.com> wrote:

>If you have £160 or so, then the mid range Miele's outstrip anything else.
>Period.

Apart from a slight tendency to catch fire in standby mode
http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/fire_safety/recalls/detail.asp?id=428
http://latexiron.livejournal.com/416790.html

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 6:02 pm
From: "Clive George"

"Andy Dingley" <dingbat@codesmiths.com> wrote in message
news:ltq4j3dmn6vop68o6e4rb25r55800lsfll@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:13:53 -0000, "Tim.."
> <the.farm.no@spam.btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>If you have £160 or so, then the mid range Miele's outstrip anything else.
>>Period.
>
> Apart from a slight tendency to catch fire in standby mode

Standby mode? For a vacuum cleaner? Isn't "big switch" the appropriate
control device?

cheers,
clive

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:08 pm
From: Shawn Hirn

In article <1194459963.920975.120360@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
"augusto321@hotmail.com" <augusto321@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello there,
> can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner (cylinder one)? Do you
> know any useful and recent test/comparison made by some consumers
> association reporting the best buy ?
> Thanks for your suggestions!
> Augusto

Check http://www.consumerreports.org/

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TOPIC: Looking for a reasonably priced electric blanket
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 7:08 pm
From: "Don K"

"Jon v Leipzig" <JVL@myday.com> wrote in message news:47317AA2.2040004@myday.com...

> Electric blankets create a magnetic field that penetrates about 6-7 inches into the
> body.

It only penetrates 6 or 7 inches? What is stopping the field?
The magnetic field from the earth goes straight thru your entire body.
Likewise the fields from the wiring and electric devices in your house
cut thru your entire body too.

It's time to put on the mu-metal hat.

Don

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 9:13 pm
From: Anthony Matonak

Bill Rider wrote:
...
> Wertheimer ran a small study to see if she could find environmental
> factors in childhood leukemia. She happened to notice a statistical
> increase for children within two doors of a neighborhood transformer.
> She saw no increase for kids with lines crossing their yards.
>
> There were two problems with the study. First, it was small. In a
> small study, one may falsely infer a statistical relationship from what
> is random chance. Second, she inferred that kids living close to these
> transformers were exposed to more EMFs. That sounds dubious.

Too bad they didn't study the toxic effects of exploding or leaking
transformers. :)

Anthony

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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:58 pm
From: Anthony Matonak

John Fitzsimons wrote:
...
> With the GUI 7-zip approach AFAIK one has to manually put
> the name of the folder if one wants it to be the same name
> as the archive.

I used Extract Now and it seems to do the folder thing OK.
http://www.extractnow.com/

Anthony

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:03 pm
From: "-Lost"

Response from John Fitzsimons <DELETEucwubqf02@sneakemail.com>:

> On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:38:37 -0800, meow2222@care2.com wrote:
>
> < snip >
>
>>Winzip was once in common use and is well known, however
>>freeware like 7-zip does it all, does it better, and with a much
>>better
>>UI.
>
> I don't think it does things better. With Winzip I can extract a
> compressed file to a folder of the same name. Automatically.
>
> With the GUI 7-zip approach AFAIK one has to manually put
> the name of the folder if one wants it to be the same name
> as the archive.
>
> IMO tedious, very tedious.
>
> Regards, John.
>

Tools > Options > Plugins (tab) > 7-Zip (plug-in) > Options > System
(tab) >
"Extract to <Folder>"

Do you think it does things better now? ; )

--
-Lost
Remove the extra words to reply by e-mail. Don't e-mail me. I am
kidding. No I am not.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:07 pm
From: "-Lost"

Response from bealoid <signup@bealoid.co.uk>:

> Erica Eshoo <evesunflor@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> news:zj%Xi.2580$RR6.979 @newssvr22.news.prodigy.net:
>
> [snip]
>
>> May I ask:
>> What does either WinRar or WinZip payware do that IZArc freeware
>> doesn't?
>
> I thought that WinRAR was the only software that could create rar
> archives. But I could be wrong.

Nope, you're right.

http://www.zipgenius.it/eng/?page_id=21#9

I would say that there are some that exist, but as the FAQ entry
above hints they are not TRUE RAR/ACE archivers.

--
-Lost
Remove the extra words to reply by e-mail. Don't e-mail me. I am
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== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:20 pm
From: Erica Eshoo

On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:07:33 -0600, -Lost wrote:

>> WinRAR was the only software that could create rar archives

I think IZArc freeware can create RAR archives.
Its web page says it's the most complete archive utility available today,
freeware or not.

Here is what it says at http://www.izarc.org

IZArc is the ultimate freeware archive utility supporting many
archive formats like: 7-ZIP, A, ACE, ARC, ARJ, B64, BH, BIN, BZ2, BZA,
C2D, CAB, CDI, CPIO, DEB, ENC, GCA, GZ, GZA, HA, IMG, ISO, JAR, LHA, LIB,
LZH, MDF, MBF, MIM, NRG, PAK, PDI, PK3, RAR, RPM, TAR, TAZ, TBZ, TGZ, TZ,
UUE, WAR, XXE, YZ1, Z, ZIP, ZOO. With a modern easy-to-use interface, IZArc
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to many powerful features and tools. It allows you to drag and drop files
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Windows Explorer, create multiple archives spanning disks, creating
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archive type to another, view and write comments and many more. IZArc has
also build-in multilanguage support.

With IZArc you can open CD image files like ISO, BIN, CDI and NRG. It is
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NRG to ISO).

If you need to send large files to your colleagues, friends or customers
who may not have archiving tool you can easily create self-extracting
archive that can be extracted by simple double click.

IZArc can be configured to run your preferred Anti-Virus scanner when you
open any archives.

IZArc supports 256-bit AES encryption to secure your data.

IZArc is integrated in Windows so you can perform all archiving operations
by using right-click menus in Windows Explorer.

If you have broken archives IZArc can help you to repair them with ease.

IZArc is 100% virus free and it doesn't contain any spyware or adware.

IZArc is the most complete archive utility available today.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:20 pm
From: Erica Eshoo

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:58:32 -0800, Anthony Matonak wrote:

>> With the GUI 7-zip approach AFAIK one has to manually put
>> the name of the folder if one wants it to be the same name
>> as the archive.
>
> I used Extract Now and it seems to do the folder thing OK.
> http://www.extractnow.com/

For the record, IZArc freeware not only extracts the file to a folder of
any name, it chooses the most logical name and location automatically for
you ... and ... not only that - but it opens the resultant folder
automatically for you if you have that option checked.

What could be more convenient?

Certainly not WinZip or WinRAR in my humble experience.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 9:19 pm
From: Damaeus

In news:rec.food.cooking, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> posted on
Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:06:36 +1100:

> Damaeus <no-mail@hotmail.invalid> wrote
>
> > It's not so much where the money is being spent, but the fact that
> > they're just creating the money out of thin air. The government
> > needs money, so federal reserve prints the money that's needed
> > and loans it to the government and charges them interest on it.
>
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
> dont actually have a clue about how deficits are funded.

And I see that you offer no alternative explanation. Here's my
documentation:

http://www.cmi-gold-silver.com/Ron-Paul-presidential-campaign-fed-sound-money.html

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/englund7.html

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/10/23/ron_paul_files_for_nh_primary/

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/fedreservebankexplained19dec05.shtml

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul124.html

http://www.fdrs.org/fed.html

http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=1889

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:History_of_the_Federal_Reserve

> > they'll do it if they can see a benefit for themselves, even in the distant future, stupid.
>
> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys, child.

You're in the drug-crazed fantasy. You think everything is great. The
government always tells the truth. CNN and Fox News always tell the truth.
You believe everything you're told as long as they say that everything is
fine...and can you be that sure?

> > And how long will that last as more and more reports
> > surface about dangerous Chinese products?
>
> Forever when china gets its act into gear and puts a bullet in the back of the
> neck of the fools that are actually stupid enough to do stuff like that, literally.

Killing people is your answer? Well, that figures. I think it was
probably known that these products weren't safe long before the reports
started coming out. I used to be more gullible and trusting that people
really had the best interests of their fellow man in mind in all things,
but the more I see, the more I believe that many of these executives don't
give a sailing shit about anything but money and how they can get more of
it.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 9:37 pm
From: William Souden

Damaeus wrote:
> In news:rec.food.cooking, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> posted on
> Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:06:36 +1100:
>
>> Damaeus <no-mail@hotmail.invalid> wrote
>>
>>> It's not so much where the money is being spent, but the fact that
>>> they're just creating the money out of thin air. The government
>>> needs money, so federal reserve prints the money that's needed
>>> and loans it to the government and charges them interest on it.
>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>> dont actually have a clue about how deficits are funded.
>
> And I see that you offer no alternative explanation. Here's my
> documentation:
>
> http://www.cmi-gold-silver.com/Ron-Paul-presidential-campaign-fed-sound-money.html
>
> http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/englund7.html
>
> http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/10/23/ron_paul_files_for_nh_primary/
>
> http://educate-yourself.org/cn/fedreservebankexplained19dec05.shtml
>
> http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul124.html
>
> http://www.fdrs.org/fed.html
>
> http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=1889
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:History_of_the_Federal_Reserve
>
>>> they'll do it if they can see a benefit for themselves, even in the distant future, stupid.
>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys, child.
>
> You're in the drug-crazed fantasy. You think everything is great. The
> government always tells the truth. CNN and Fox News always tell the truth.
> You believe everything you're told as long as they say that everything is
> fine...and can you be that sure?

Rod's idea of a cite is to yell "bullshit". You know you really got
under his skin when he reverts to the flusing mode.
>
>>> And how long will that last as more and more reports
>>> surface about dangerous Chinese products?
>> Forever when china gets its act into gear and puts a bullet in the back of the
>> neck of the fools that are actually stupid enough to do stuff like that, literally.
>
> Killing people is your answer? Well, that figures. I think it was
> probably known that these products weren't safe long before the reports
> started coming out. I used to be more gullible and trusting that people
> really had the best interests of their fellow man in mind in all things,
> but the more I see, the more I believe that many of these executives don't
> give a sailing shit about anything but money and how they can get more of
> it.
>

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 9:42 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Damaeus <no-mail@hotmail.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Damaeus <no-mail@hotmail.invalid> wrote

>>> It's not so much where the money is being spent, but the fact that
>>> they're just creating the money out of thin air. The government
>>> needs money, so federal reserve prints the money that's needed
>>> and loans it to the government and charges them interest on it.

>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>> dont actually have a clue about how deficits are funded.

> And I see that you offer no alternative explanation.

Dont need to. Any basic text on economics covers that.

Even wikipedia does too.

> Here's my documentation:

>>> they'll do it if they can see a benefit for themselves, even in the distant future, stupid.

>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys, child.

> You're in the drug-crazed fantasy.

Cant even manage its own lines.

> You think everything is great.

You're lying now.

> The government always tells the truth.

Lying again.

> CNN and Fox News always tell the truth.

And again.

> You believe everything you're told as long as they say that everything is fine...

And again.

> and can you be that sure?

Yep, I've been observing the mindless hyperventilation by
fools like you since before you were even born thanks, child.

The doomsaying hasnt EVER happened yet. Funny that.

>>> And how long will that last as more and more
>>> reports surface about dangerous Chinese products?

>> Forever when china gets its act into gear and puts a bullet in the back of the
>> neck of the fools that are actually stupid enough to do stuff like that, literally.

> Killing people is your answer?

Nope, its THEIR answer, stupid.

And they send the bill for the bullet to the relos too.

> Well, that figures.

Pathetic.

> I think it was probably known that these products
> weren't safe long before the reports started coming out.

Corse it was, which might just be why they werent allowed to do it like that.

And why some of them were excuted when they were
caught doing what they werent allowed to do too.

> I used to be more gullible and trusting that people really had the best
> interests of their fellow man in mind in all things, but the more I see,
> the more I believe that many of these executives don't give a sailing
> shit about anything but money and how they can get more of it.

And that is why China executes those caught behaving like that.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:34 pm
From: Greggie Gibson

"jason.mangiafico@verizon.net" <jason.mangiafico@verizon.net> wrote in
news:1194436449.314262.242140@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> quoting:
>> In article <slrnfiqg1l.8tm....@manx.misty.com>, Don Klipstein wrote:
>> > Sorry, mostLEDlights on the market now are less efficient than
>> >the vast majority of CFLs. Most whiteLEDlights also have an icy
>> >cool color. Many also flicker worse than most CFLs.
>> > - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)
>>
>> Just to clarify, I was talking about 120V screw-base lights.
>>
>> I am aware of a few higher endLEDflashlights and a coupleLEDwork
>> lights with LEDs that havefluorescent-like efficiency. None of these
>> has been around long. I am anLEDnut and I first got my hands on LEDs
>> withfluorescent-like efficiency in April 2006. One of these has
>> warmer-than-usual-white-LEDcolor, but is still "cool white".
>
>
> I see many people believe advertising that LED are the most/more
> efficient. Usually it is downright wrong. What makes these believers
> even wronger is the fact the next advancement is actually going
> backwards. Incandescent. Something like silicon carbide filaments.
> The LED believers can keep on dreaming because good old incandescent
> is coming back to bite you.
>
> For an LED light to be big enough, bright enough, and efficient enough
> to compete with cfls and be used in general lighting, you need bigger
> and fewer led's per "bulb". Idealy one big led per bulb. If we can
> get a single led light, then it can certainly compete with cfls. The
> main problem is heat. Even though it can be efficient enough to
> compete with cfls, the LED chip is damaged at relatively low
> temperature. The LED needs it's own dedicated cooling system. Thus
> you will never see a screw-in led bulb that can replace a 60w bulb
> with equal brightness. You would only get an entire led fixture with
> the driver and cooling system built-in. Screw-in led bulbs of the
> future just aren't happening. Only complete fixtures. But then we
> have things like silicon carbide bulbs that should easily render LED's
> to a niche market.
>
>

These aren't 60W equivalents but they don't require built-in cooling

http://superbrightleds.com/edison.html

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