Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 13 topics

Wednesday, November 7, 2007

25 new messages in 13 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: NEW E. coli outbreak - another illegal shits in meat, Cargill recalls 1
million lbs of beef (2nd recall in weeks)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a877d5424ced962a?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 7:25 am
From: Jo in Ok

On Nov 6, 7:54 pm, Anthony Matonak
<anthony...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
> Ann wrote:
> > On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:18:56 -0800, Ted wrote:
> >> On Nov 5, 10:28 pm, "GeorgeWashingtonAdmi...@adelphia.com" wrote:
> >>> THANKS, ILLEGALS!: Another E. coli outbreak - ONE MORE illegal shits
> >>> in meat, Cargill recalls 1 million lbs of ground beef
>
> > That ground beef contamination had zero to do with "illegals".
>
> Perhaps he meant that the illegals went through the grinder. :)
>
> Anthony

I think alot of people are worried about the illegals bringing germs
and diseases into
the USA and spreading them...even those with TB... also hate to hear
all these bad products coming into our
country as well... Jo

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:33 am
From: Elmo

Jo in Ok wrote:
> On Nov 6, 7:54 pm, Anthony Matonak
> <anthony...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> Ann wrote:
>>> On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:18:56 -0800, Ted wrote:
>>>> On Nov 5, 10:28 pm, "GeorgeWashingtonAdmi...@adelphia.com" wrote:
>>>>> THANKS, ILLEGALS!: Another E. coli outbreak - ONE MORE illegal shits
>>>>> in meat, Cargill recalls 1 million lbs of ground beef
>>> That ground beef contamination had zero to do with "illegals".
>> Perhaps he meant that the illegals went through the grinder. :)
>>
>> Anthony
>
>
> I think alot of people are worried about the illegals bringing germs
> and diseases into
> the USA and spreading them...even those with TB... also hate to hear
> all these bad products coming into our
> country as well... Jo
>

Let me see. Cattle raised in close confinement with manure caked into their coats get trucked to a packing plant where they are slaughtered. E. coli tends to live in the colon so it ends up in the manure. Now how do you suppose those nasty bugs got into the hamburger?

Modern packing plants do their best to sanitize the carcase as soon as it is skinned but it's inevitable that some gets through. So they test for it. Unlike CSI, where every test and assay technique known to science (along with a few that haven't been invented yet) can complete while you're watching the Plavix/Wellbutrin/Viagrialis commercials, these tests take time. Usually they come back negative so the economical decision is to ship the product under the assumption that it is ok. Most of the time it isn't. When it isn't they issue a recall -- only guess what? People have already eaten the stuff. Most probably cooked the living shit out of it (Tee Hee) before eating it. Of those who didn't most have reasonably competent immune systems that fight the bugs off before they can establish a big colony. A few of the rest get "stomach flu[1]" and a smaller number get sick enough to need medical attention and a few of those die.

So, what's the connection to illegal immigrants? Oh, right, they are both involved in fattening the stock portfolios of people who wouldn't think of eating ground beef.

[1]What makes people call diarrhea "flu"? Influenza is a respiratory disease!

--
"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier."
Kipling: "The Young British Soldier"

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TOPIC: Hymiewood Propagandists Want More $$$$
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0bd2ac82a782104e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 7:57 am
From: "Guv Bob"

Check out www.RustypigIsAMoronWatch.org.

Seriously, you really should stop watching Oprah and reading the Weekly World News and talk to some real people. I think you'll find that you are creating a lot of tension for yourself by creating fictional enemies.

As is says in the Great Big Book, it's better to light a candle that curse the darkness.

"rustypig" <rustywhi@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1194436352.655293.161210@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 6, 6:54 am, greg3347 <theodor...@lycos.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 6, 12:11 am, Atak <jr89foo17...@hotblast.e4ward.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Many of these television writers are both Jews and fags. What
> > > an amalgam - a combination of two subcultures which are
> > > rabidly hostile to mainstream, traditional America. The result
> > > is a perfect storm of poisonous agitprop and pornographic
> > > degeneracy.
> >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > > Nov 5, 2007
> >
> > > Script Writers Want To Be Paid More To Condition And Destroy
> > > America
> >
> > > Students of Jewish media control in America might be interested
> > > in this story out of Hollywood as it shows that even though it is
> > > an undeniable fact that the media Jews' number one objective is
> > > to condition America to accept their anti-White agenda, these
> > > Jews occasionally will spat among themselves about secondary
> > > issues like money. Show-business writers will go on strike early
> > > Monday after their negotiating team recommended a walkout over
> > > royalties that could immediately pinch late-night TV shows.
> >
> > > The Writers Guild of America board voted unanimously to strike as
> > > of 12:01a.m. Monday. The walkout will be the first in 20 years.
> > > The labor impasse is over royalties from DVD sales -- last
> > > negotiated in 1988. "The future of TV is not going to look like
> > > what it's been for the last 30 years," said Jewish TV writer Dave
> > > Schiff, who has penned scripts for the show "King of the Hill"
> > > (which belittles the traditional White Texan) and "That 70's
> > > Show".
> >
> > > While it is probably overly optimistic to predict that any of the
> > > millions of lemmings that stay glued to their TV's while our
> > > civilization goes to hell will be any more reachable during the
> > > strike than normal, networks will have to resort to reruns, news
> > > programs and reality shows to fill the schedule in 2008 if a
> > > strike were to drag on and some of the lemmings might have their
> > > attention distracted for a time and might think about something
> > > other than the Jews' trash TV programs. The union's most recent
> > > strike, in 1988, lasted 5 1/2 months. Industry estimates say a
> > > half-billion was lost because of that walkout.
>
> check out jewwatch.com
>

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TOPIC: action against Argos on faulty goods
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0c66ea2e96d149d7?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:01 am
From: "BarryTaylor"

"johngood_____" <void@void.net> wrote in message
news:yUhYi.19305$6v.5705@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> I'm really fed up with the amount of our electrical goods that have broken
> down invariably not long after the one year warranty period has expired. I
> dont know if its true, but a Japanese told me that manufacturers are
> actually beginning to design stuff to do this.
>
> Just over a year ago we bought a 'Energiser' battery charger from Argos to
> charge torch batteries. Yep... its gone down, yet was only used three or
> four times. I know it only cost £10 but I want to take them to task if I
> can.
>
> What action might I take with Argos, since I'm fed up that they can just
> say, "its a year", so tough luck. Thanks for any advice.
>
I agree with the other poster. If the same charger is still available, buy
one, give it a week, then return the faulty one with the new receipt. You
can then get a refund and still have the good charger that you just bought.
Everyones a winner Bonne Da Douche, Petit pois and viva la mexico

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:17 am
From: Signal

"johngood_____" <void@void.net> wrote:

>I'm really fed up with the amount of our electrical goods that have broken
>down invariably not long after the one year warranty period has expired. I
>dont know if its true, but a Japanese told me that manufacturers are
>actually beginning to design stuff to do this.
>
>Just over a year ago we bought a 'Energiser' battery charger from Argos to
>charge torch batteries. Yep... its gone down, yet was only used three or
>four times. I know it only cost £10 but I want to take them to task if I
>can.
>
>What action might I take with Argos, since I'm fed up that they can just
>say, "its a year", so tough luck. Thanks for any advice.
>

If you start a small claims procedure against them, Argos might buckle
under the pressure and give you the £10 back!

Or you could just ask nicely at the store..

--
S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t

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TOPIC: lots of spam here
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/50376502a011f24c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:31 am
From: allahgodalmighty@yahoo.co.uk

On 7 Nov, 13:46, clams casino <PeterGrif...@drunkin-clam.com> wrote:
> studioaren...@gmail.com wrote:
> >lots of spam coming from this group, is there anybody there who'd like
> >to help publish a magazine, we need creative people...
>
> So you're intent is to add to the spam?

Money Saving Expert is covering quite a bit of ground with regards to
frugal living, not sure if a magazine could do a better job.

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TOPIC: Fed Up Paying Too Much For Sending SMS Text To Your Long Distance
Relationship? Start Saving Now.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e549ebfbd3f6ce29?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:34 am
From: allahgodalmighty@yahoo.co.uk

Send a text or a picture message from your phone
to a business partner or loved one at just 10p.

Blitzplanet is a free-to-download SMS text and picture
service which is installed onto a mobile phone.

You no longer need your mobile operator to
deliver SMS text or picture messages.

Your text credits are valid for three years.

No swapping of Sim cards when travelling.

Blitzplanet sends picture and SMS text messages via
GPRS/Internet to mobile networks worldwide.

Text messages cost £0.10 per message and
can be purchased in 50, 100, 150... credit packages.

Your phone has to be provisioned with GPRS
(=Internet on your mobile phone).

Once Blitzplanet is installed you are guaranteed to
save hundreds of pounds every year.

Go to http://www.blitzplanet.com

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TOPIC: Use the Mobile Web To Lower The Cost Of Texting On Your Mobile Phone
Instantly.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4087efc9d12cf343?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:39 am
From: allahgodalmighty@yahoo.co.uk

Blitzplanet is a free-to-download SMS text and picture
service.

It sits on your mobile phone like the game Snake.

You no longer need your mobile operator for the
delivery of SMS text or picture messages.

Blitzplanet sends picture and SMS text messages via
GPRS/Internet to mobile networks worldwide.

Blitzplanet is not a subscription service.
Your credits remain valid for 3 years.

Text messages cost £0.10 per message and
can be purchased in 50, 100, 150... credit packages.

Your phone has to be provisioned with GPRS
( =Internet on your mobile phone).
Once installed you are guaranteed to save hundreds
of pounds per year.

Get http://www.blitzplanet.com and save instantly.

If you want to try our services before you buy,
please go to http://www.blitzplanet.com

- Test Us FREE

- Credits are valid for three years

- Blitzplanet is NOT a subscription service.

Start saving money on texting and MMS instantly
with http://www.blitzplanet.com

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TOPIC: Do all long-distance carriers now charge a monthly fee?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/52b51df4774f4c96?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 8:58 am
From: Abe

>In article <1194423404.240144.34700@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> Doc <docsavage20@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Not a tremendous amount of money, but wondering if there's any LD
>> carrier that doesn't charge anything if I don't make calls.
>
>I was with Power Net Global until recently. They did not
>charge a monthly fee. I dropped them when I went 100% cellular.
>
>-john-
PowerNet Global is my carrier also. They don't charge a fee, and have
very low rates.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 9:04 am
From: George Grapman

You do not need a long distance carrier. You can use phone cars or a
dial around service.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 9:41 am
From: Abe

> You do not need a long distance carrier. You can use phone cars or a
>dial around service.
True enough. I prefer a single carrier, and to not have to use a card,
but to each his own.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:07 am
From: "Evelyn C. Leeper"

Reminder: if you have a phone with programmable numbers, you can program
the toll-free number for a pre-paid service into one of them, and your
PIN into another. (Some services let you specify numbers from which you
can call that don't require a PIN, e.g., your home number.)

--
Evelyn C. Leeper
He who knows only his own side of the case
knows little of that. -John Stuart Mill

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:07 am
From: George Grapman

Abe wrote:
>> You do not need a long distance carrier. You can use phone cars or a
>> dial around service.
> True enough. I prefer a single carrier, and to not have to use a card,
> but to each his own.
The option benefits those who make few,if any long distance calls. I
know a elderly person who makes , maybe, 20 minutes of LD calls. This
works for him.

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TOPIC: ~ * Iron Chef's Kitchen Stadium: THE SOUP KITCHEN * ~
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d87cadfd02dc075a?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 9:59 am
From: Twittering One

The New York Times
December 20, 2006

On the Soup Line, Endive and Octopus
By KIM SEVERSON

EVEN at the soup kitchen, everyone's a critic.

The multicourse lunch that Michael Ennes cooked in the basement of
Broadway Presbyterian Church last week started with a light soup of
savoy and napa cabbages. The endive salad was dressed with basil
vinaigrette. For the main course, Mr. Ennes simmered New Jersey bison
in wine and stock flavored with fennel and thickened with olive oil
roux.

But some diners thought the bison was a little tough, and the menu
discordant.

"He's good, but sometimes I think the experimentation gets in the way
of good taste," said Jose Terrero, 54. Last year, Mr. Terrero made a
series of what he called inappropriate financial decisions, including
not paying his rent. He now sleeps at a shelter. He has eaten at
several New York City soup kitchens, and highly recommends Mr. Ennes's
food.

Mr. Ennes, a former English major who reads Thomas Paine and wears a
black and white neckerchief with a turquoise clasp, might be the best
soup kitchen chef in New York City. On Thanksgiving, when most of the
cooks at the city's other 470-some soup kitchens simply roasted
turkey, he prepared "turkey four ways," including one with mango-
ginger glaze and tropical fruit stuffing.

There will be no canned green beans or bologna sandwiches. Mr. Ennes
insists on homemade stocks, oils without trans fats, organic peanut
butter and local produce when he can get it. (That's not to say he
won't stretch a meal with some frozen turkey patties or use a little
powdered soup base in a pinch.)

Despite the care he puts into his cooking, he doesn't mind a little
criticism.

"They're still customers, whether they're paying $100 a plate or
nothing," Mr. Ennes said. "One thing we do here is listen to people
and let them complain. Where else can a homeless person get someone to
listen to them?"

Mr. Ennes, 55, cooks about 500 meals a week for people who come to the
church on the corner of Broadway and 114th Street in search of a free
breakfast or lunch. At night, a handful of women in need of shelter
sleep upstairs. He feeds them, too.

The people who eat at Broadway Community Inc., the social service
organization that employs Mr. Ennes and rents space in the church, are
only a small slice of the 260,000 New Yorkers who every week visit
some emergency feeding program. About 40 percent of the people who eat
at Mr. Ennes's table live in a shelter or take cover in the parks or
the subways. The rest have a temporary home of some sort, on a
friend's couch or the roof of a building where they know the super.
Some don't earn enough to cover rent.

Mr. Ennes relies on the Food Bank for New York City, donations and
grants, but he also employs the creativity of a desperate cook. When
he's out of wine, he uses fruit juice or borrows communion wine from
the understanding pastor at the church upstairs. (He has to make sure
all the alcohol is cooked off; many of his clients are trying to
recover from alcoholism.)

The bread basket that sits on each table is filled with rolls that
were baked at Le Bernardin the day before but never served. Le
Bernardin is among nearly 150 high-end restaurants that regularly
donate through City Harvest, a nonprofit that for 25 years has been
"rescuing" extra food. The list of donors, which includes
corporations, farms and grocery stores, totals more than 2,000.
Without City Harvest, Mr. Ennes would be hard-pressed to present the
menus he does.

(more)

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/20/dining/20soup.html

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:01 am
From: Twittering One

Our friend Double-A, now homeless, needs options for the lovely city
of Portland, OR.

Please offer your help now ~ !

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:22 am
From: Twittering One

",,, & for your information,
It was an act of Civil Disobedience."
~ Twittering LSTOO & Folly IAG

civil disobedience
n.

Refusal to obey civil laws in an effort to induce change in
governmental policy or legislation, characterized by the use of
passive resistance or other nonviolent means.

http://www.answers.com/topic/civil-disobedience?cat=biz-fin

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 11:43 am
From: "Painius"

"Twittering One" <mournenwould@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1194458367.290744.252300@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> The New York Times
> December 20, 2006
>
> On the Soup Line, Endive and Octopus
> By KIM SEVERSON
>
> EVEN at the soup kitchen, everyone's a critic.
>
> The multicourse lunch that Michael Ennes cooked in the basement of
> Broadway Presbyterian Church last week started with a light soup of
> savoy and napa cabbages. The endive salad was dressed with basil
> vinaigrette. For the main course, Mr. Ennes simmered New Jersey bison
> in wine and stock flavored with fennel and thickened with olive oil
> roux.
>
> But some diners thought the bison was a little tough, and the menu
> discordant.
>
> "He's good, but sometimes I think the experimentation gets in the way
> of good taste," said Jose Terrero, 54. Last year, Mr. Terrero made a
> series of what he called inappropriate financial decisions, including
> not paying his rent. He now sleeps at a shelter. He has eaten at
> several New York City soup kitchens, and highly recommends Mr. Ennes's
> food.
>
> Mr. Ennes, a former English major who reads Thomas Paine and wears a
> black and white neckerchief with a turquoise clasp, might be the best
> soup kitchen chef in New York City. On Thanksgiving, when most of the
> cooks at the city's other 470-some soup kitchens simply roasted
> turkey, he prepared "turkey four ways," including one with mango-
> ginger glaze and tropical fruit stuffing.
>
> There will be no canned green beans or bologna sandwiches. Mr. Ennes
> insists on homemade stocks, oils without trans fats, organic peanut
> butter and local produce when he can get it. (That's not to say he
> won't stretch a meal with some frozen turkey patties or use a little
> powdered soup base in a pinch.)
>
> Despite the care he puts into his cooking, he doesn't mind a little
> criticism.
>
> "They're still customers, whether they're paying $100 a plate or
> nothing," Mr. Ennes said. "One thing we do here is listen to people
> and let them complain. Where else can a homeless person get someone to
> listen to them?"
>
> Mr. Ennes, 55, cooks about 500 meals a week for people who come to the
> church on the corner of Broadway and 114th Street in search of a free
> breakfast or lunch. At night, a handful of women in need of shelter
> sleep upstairs. He feeds them, too.
>
> The people who eat at Broadway Community Inc., the social service
> organization that employs Mr. Ennes and rents space in the church, are
> only a small slice of the 260,000 New Yorkers who every week visit
> some emergency feeding program. About 40 percent of the people who eat
> at Mr. Ennes's table live in a shelter or take cover in the parks or
> the subways. The rest have a temporary home of some sort, on a
> friend's couch or the roof of a building where they know the super.
> Some don't earn enough to cover rent.
>
>
> Mr. Ennes relies on the Food Bank for New York City, donations and
> grants, but he also employs the creativity of a desperate cook. When
> he's out of wine, he uses fruit juice or borrows communion wine from
> the understanding pastor at the church upstairs. (He has to make sure
> all the alcohol is cooked off; many of his clients are trying to
> recover from alcoholism.)
>
> The bread basket that sits on each table is filled with rolls that
> were baked at Le Bernardin the day before but never served. Le
> Bernardin is among nearly 150 high-end restaurants that regularly
> donate through City Harvest, a nonprofit that for 25 years has been
> "rescuing" extra food. The list of donors, which includes
> corporations, farms and grocery stores, totals more than 2,000.
> Without City Harvest, Mr. Ennes would be hard-pressed to present the
> menus he does.
>
> (more)
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/20/dining/20soup.html

Chef Ennes is one of the most remarkable persons
i've ever read about. Thank you, divine Mz. V!

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
No one can tell, No one can smell
And No one can get any traction,
Why does a fellow stay down for the bell?--
Because fear is a nuclear reaction.

Indelibly yours,
Paine

P.S. Here are some secret sites... shh

http://www.painellsworth.net

http://www.savethechildren.org/

http://www.secretsgolden.com

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TOPIC: Anyone ever had their gutters replaced?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8901b32b3f324551?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:08 am
From: "OhioGuy"

I'm in a position where I need to have my gutters replaced, and I'm
wondering what a fair price is for the work.

I've done the tear-out myself, so that has all been finished. (old gutters
completely removed)

I have two things that need done:

1) 170' of gutter around the roof needs installed, and 2 new downspouts need
run. It is approx 23' up off the ground

2) approx 55' of gutter running around the front porch needs installed, plus
2 new downspouts. This is about 11' above ground level

Downspouts would all be the larger 3x4" sizes, not smaller 2x3", to make
sure it can handle the water flow during heavy rains.

Anybody out there had some gutters replaced, or had anything like this
priced lately? I'm just wondering what a good price would be for this type
of work. I know it could be done in less than a full day, since I've
already done the tear-off, and most of these places use the continuous
aluminum gutter and downspouts. (longer, continuous pieces that let them not
have to mess with seams very often)

Thanks!

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TOPIC: Limbaugh Lie of the Day #2 11/07/07
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/65f27768b50ba850?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:12 am
From: George Grapman

Say that none of the swift boaters claims were ever "disproven".

In his book O'Neill said he was never in Cambodia and the only time
he met Nixon was at the 1972 convention. The Oval Office tapes have him
telling Nixon that he was in Cambodia.

Thurlow served on a mission with Kerry. He said that Kerry was
dishonest for accepting a commend for that mission which said they drew
fire when, according to Thurlow,the mission drew no fire. When it was
noted that Thurlow accepted the same commendation for the same mission
he claimed that he never read the commendation.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 11:18 am
From: George Grapman

Sorry, posted twice to the wrong group. Fortunately a departed
poster is no longer around to have my account terminated.

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TOPIC: More Limbaugh double standard
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/219dd0c0bfe7b1cf?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:16 am
From: George Grapman

Talks about Kerry's "flip flops". Ignores these:

Bush in 2003-We found WMDs.
Cheney in 2006-There were no WMDs.

Bush-We do not need a Homeland Security Dept.
Bush-We need it.

Bush-We do not need a 9/11 commission
Bush-We need one.

Bush-Clinton should "jawbone OPEC" to lower prices
Bush- the president has no control over oil prices

Republicans from 1980-2002-Deficits are bad
Republicans since 2002-What are deficits?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 11:22 am
From: Derald

Good Lord; you must actually *listen* the the arrogant,
self-absorbed, blowhard. And just when I thought the group was finally
free of lunatic assholes posting their unending flood of propagandistic
socio-political drival, here you come with another load of show business
slime. It is just about as useful as, say, relentlessly replying to
every spammer who decides to take a piss in mcfl. Isn't there someplace
else you can go to indulge your aberration? Therapy, maybe? In fact, if
you're the least resourceful, you can probably find a way to make your
fellow citizens pay for it....

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 11:31 am
From: George Grapman

Derald wrote:
> Good Lord; you must actually *listen* the the arrogant,
> self-absorbed, blowhard. And just when I thought the group was finally
> free of lunatic assholes posting their unending flood of propagandistic
> socio-political drival, here you come with another load of show business
> slime. It is just about as useful as, say, relentlessly replying to
> every spammer who decides to take a piss in mcfl. Isn't there someplace
> else you can go to indulge your aberration? Therapy, maybe? In fact, if
> you're the least resourceful, you can probably find a way to make your
> fellow citizens pay for it....

I inadvertently posted to the wrong group and then posted an apology.
Now,take a deep breath and try to figure out what you are really angry
about.

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TOPIC: Looking for a reasonably priced electric blanket
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/61dd3b5c34b2d773?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:23 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Jon v Leipzig <JVL@myday.com> wrote:
> OhioGuy wrote:
>> I purchased a twin sized electric blanket about 8 years ago at Odd
>> Lots (now Big Lots) for $19.95, and used it up until last year. It
>> had some issues, so we threw it away.
>>
>> This year, I'd like to get a new one, but we now have a King size
>> bed, and my wife informed me that the electric blanket at Meijer was
>> $75! I had no idea - I figured it might be $30 to $40.
>>
>> I'd like to use it because often we lay on the bed to read, and it
>> would be cheaper to heat the bed for sleeping than to keep the whole
>> room warmer, which is what we currently do.
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a place where we could get either a Queen or
>> King sized electric blanket for less than $75? That just seems a
>> bit too pricey.
>
> Imo, the cheapies are probably from China. They just had a recall in
> NZ and Australia of Chinese blankets, tho not necessarily electric,iirc.
> Seems they had very high levels of formaldehyde.
> (lab rats claim it causes skin/respiratory problems, nasal cancer,
> leukemia,etc, but lab rats whine about everything, it seems.)
>
>
> <snipped, forgot source>
>
> Electric Blankets and Waterbeds

> Electric blankets create a magnetic field that penetrates about 6-7
> inches into the body. Thus it is not surprising that an
> epidemiological study has linked electric blankets with miscarriages
> and childhood leukemia.

Bare faced lie.

> This pioneering work was performed by Dr. Nancy Wertheimer and Ed
> Leeper, who originally discovered that magnetic fields were linked to
> childhood leukemia. Similar health effects have been noted with users
> of many electric blankets and waterbed heaters will emit EMFs even
> when turned off.
> The devices must be unplugged to delete the EMF exposure.
>
>
> --------------------
>
>
> (this draft was based on analysis of 100 studies, 24 showed some
> increase in cancer risk. The final report was toned down, to please
> corporate/military interests)

Mindless silly stuff.

> <snipped>
> In a draft report issued in March 1990, the EPA recommended that EMFs
> be classified as a Class B carcinogen -- -a "probable human carcinogen and joined the ranks of formaldehyde, DDT,
> dioxins and PCBs.

Not the levels you get with electric blankets they didnt, liar.

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TOPIC: vacuum cleaner-comparison-best buy
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d4422c2827943bde?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 10:26 am
From: "augusto321@hotmail.com"

Hello there,
can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner (cylinder one)? Do you
know any useful and recent test/comparison made by some consumers
association reporting the best buy ?
Thanks for your suggestions!
Augusto

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