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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko mnjimn
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 10:44 am
From: Igor Dunjic-Duke
Milenko Kindl
JERUSALEM - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Sunday the U.S.
will review its aid to Pakistan after the country's military ruler
suspended the constitution. Her announcement puts in question some of
the billions in U.S. assistance to a close terrorism-fighting ally.
ADVERTISEMENT
On a Mideast trip now overshadowed by the unfolding crisis in nuclear-
armed Pakistan, Rice suggested that the Bush administration would not
suspend aid wholesale.
The U.S. has provided about $11 billion to Pakistan since 2001, when
Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, made a strategic shift to
ally with the United States after the Sept. 11 attacks.
"Some of the aid that goes to Pakistan is directly related to the
counterterrorism mission," Rice told reporters traveling with her. "We
just have to review the situation. But I would be very surprised if
anyone wants the president to ignore or set aside our concerns about
terrorism," Rice said.
The top U.S. diplomat said she had not spoken directly with Musharraf
since he announced what she called "extraconstitutional" moves on
Saturday. In addition to suspending the constitution, he ousted the
country's top judge and deployed troops to fight what he called rising
Islamic extremism.
"I'm disappointed in his decision, sure," Rice said. "I think his
decision sets Pakistan back in the considerable progress it made
toward democratic change."
After hearing word of the U.S. review, Sen. Joe Biden, chairman of the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said, "I would be on the phone
with Musharraf making it clear to him that there's a price to pay if
he does not rectify what he's just done."
After Musharraf imposed a state of emergency, the Pentagon said the
declaration did not affect U.S. military support of Pakistan.
The review cited by Rice would look in part at whether some current
aid cannot continue because of U.S. legal restrictions that set
conditions for governments to receive money. That probably would cover
only a small amount of the total aid, which now runs to about $150
million each month.
The Center for Strategic and International Studies reported in August
that less than 10 percent of the aid bill since 2001 has paid for
economic and social projects.
Rice promoted such assistance, particularly for education, when she
told reporters that the U.S. has looked beyond Musharraf and made a
choice to support what had seemed to be an increasingly democratic
nation at a critical time.
"The United States did not put all its chips on Musharraf," Rice said.
Biden, D-Del., said an aid review was appropriate, but that the
administration has embraced policies that limit its options.
"I don't that they have any notion of what they're going to do right
now," he said. "This administration has a Musharraf policy, not a
Pakistan policy. It's tied to Musharraf and it's hands are pretty well
tied right now," said Biden, who is running for president in 2008.
"This is the most dangerous and complex relationship that we have and
we have a huge stake ... in seeing to it that the moderate majority in
Pakistan have a political outlet," he added. "Absent that political
outlet, what I worry about is they will join in league with the
extremists," citing what happened with Iran in 1979 when the shah was
overthrown and an Islamic theocracy set up.
Speaking of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran, Biden said "all these dots
are connected" and the administration "doesn't have a policy. It has a
Musharraf policy but it doesn't have a policy relative to Pakistan and
how it affects everything else in the region."
Biden also said, however, that he believes Musharraf's military is in
firm control of the country's nuclear arsenal and does not think that
is a cause for concern now.
The center's report put U.S. aid for Pakistani schools at about $64
million.
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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko mnjim
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 10:45 am
From: Igor Dunjic-Duke
Milenko Kindl
JERUSALEM - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Sunday the U.S.
will review its aid to Pakistan after the country's military ruler
suspended the constitution. Her announcement puts in question some of
the billions in U.S. assistance to a close terrorism-fighting ally.
ADVERTISEMENT
On a Mideast trip now overshadowed by the unfolding crisis in nuclear-
armed Pakistan, Rice suggested that the Bush administration would not
suspend aid wholesale.
The U.S. has provided about $11 billion to Pakistan since 2001, when
Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, made a strategic shift to
ally with the United States after the Sept. 11 attacks.
"Some of the aid that goes to Pakistan is directly related to the
counterterrorism mission," Rice told reporters traveling with her. "We
just have to review the situation. But I would be very surprised if
anyone wants the president to ignore or set aside our concerns about
terrorism," Rice said.
The top U.S. diplomat said she had not spoken directly with Musharraf
since he announced what she called "extraconstitutional" moves on
Saturday. In addition to suspending the constitution, he ousted the
country's top judge and deployed troops to fight what he called rising
Islamic extremism.
"I'm disappointed in his decision, sure," Rice said. "I think his
decision sets Pakistan back in the considerable progress it made
toward democratic change."
After hearing word of the U.S. review, Sen. Joe Biden, chairman of the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said, "I would be on the phone
with Musharraf making it clear to him that there's a price to pay if
he does not rectify what he's just done."
After Musharraf imposed a state of emergency, the Pentagon said the
declaration did not affect U.S. military support of Pakistan.
The review cited by Rice would look in part at whether some current
aid cannot continue because of U.S. legal restrictions that set
conditions for governments to receive money. That probably would cover
only a small amount of the total aid, which now runs to about $150
million each month.
The Center for Strategic and International Studies reported in August
that less than 10 percent of the aid bill since 2001 has paid for
economic and social projects.
Rice promoted such assistance, particularly for education, when she
told reporters that the U.S. has looked beyond Musharraf and made a
choice to support what had seemed to be an increasingly democratic
nation at a critical time.
"The United States did not put all its chips on Musharraf," Rice said.
Biden, D-Del., said an aid review was appropriate, but that the
administration has embraced policies that limit its options.
"I don't that they have any notion of what they're going to do right
now," he said. "This administration has a Musharraf policy, not a
Pakistan policy. It's tied to Musharraf and it's hands are pretty well
tied right now," said Biden, who is running for president in 2008.
"This is the most dangerous and complex relationship that we have and
we have a huge stake ... in seeing to it that the moderate majority in
Pakistan have a political outlet," he added. "Absent that political
outlet, what I worry about is they will join in league with the
extremists," citing what happened with Iran in 1979 when the shah was
overthrown and an Islamic theocracy set up.
Speaking of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran, Biden said "all these dots
are connected" and the administration "doesn't have a policy. It has a
Musharraf policy but it doesn't have a policy relative to Pakistan and
how it affects everything else in the region."
Biden also said, however, that he believes Musharraf's military is in
firm control of the country's nuclear arsenal and does not think that
is a cause for concern now.
The center's report put U.S. aid for Pakistani schools at about $64
million.
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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko mnji
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 10:47 am
From: Raul Endymion
Milenko Kindl
JERUSALEM - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Sunday the U.S.
will review its aid to Pakistan after the country's military ruler
suspended the constitution. Her announcement puts in question some of
the billions in U.S. assistance to a close terrorism-fighting ally.
ADVERTISEMENT
On a Mideast trip now overshadowed by the unfolding crisis in nuclear-
armed Pakistan, Rice suggested that the Bush administration would not
suspend aid wholesale.
The U.S. has provided about $11 billion to Pakistan since 2001, when
Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, made a strategic shift to
ally with the United States after the Sept. 11 attacks.
"Some of the aid that goes to Pakistan is directly related to the
counterterrorism mission," Rice told reporters traveling with her. "We
just have to review the situation. But I would be very surprised if
anyone wants the president to ignore or set aside our concerns about
terrorism," Rice said.
The top U.S. diplomat said she had not spoken directly with Musharraf
since he announced what she called "extraconstitutional" moves on
Saturday. In addition to suspending the constitution, he ousted the
country's top judge and deployed troops to fight what he called rising
Islamic extremism.
"I'm disappointed in his decision, sure," Rice said. "I think his
decision sets Pakistan back in the considerable progress it made
toward democratic change."
After hearing word of the U.S. review, Sen. Joe Biden, chairman of the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said, "I would be on the phone
with Musharraf making it clear to him that there's a price to pay if
he does not rectify what he's just done."
After Musharraf imposed a state of emergency, the Pentagon said the
declaration did not affect U.S. military support of Pakistan.
The review cited by Rice would look in part at whether some current
aid cannot continue because of U.S. legal restrictions that set
conditions for governments to receive money. That probably would cover
only a small amount of the total aid, which now runs to about $150
million each month.
The Center for Strategic and International Studies reported in August
that less than 10 percent of the aid bill since 2001 has paid for
economic and social projects.
Rice promoted such assistance, particularly for education, when she
told reporters that the U.S. has looked beyond Musharraf and made a
choice to support what had seemed to be an increasingly democratic
nation at a critical time.
"The United States did not put all its chips on Musharraf," Rice said.
Biden, D-Del., said an aid review was appropriate, but that the
administration has embraced policies that limit its options.
"I don't that they have any notion of what they're going to do right
now," he said. "This administration has a Musharraf policy, not a
Pakistan policy. It's tied to Musharraf and it's hands are pretty well
tied right now," said Biden, who is running for president in 2008.
"This is the most dangerous and complex relationship that we have and
we have a huge stake ... in seeing to it that the moderate majority in
Pakistan have a political outlet," he added. "Absent that political
outlet, what I worry about is they will join in league with the
extremists," citing what happened with Iran in 1979 when the shah was
overthrown and an Islamic theocracy set up.
Speaking of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran, Biden said "all these dots
are connected" and the administration "doesn't have a policy. It has a
Musharraf policy but it doesn't have a policy relative to Pakistan and
how it affects everything else in the region."
Biden also said, however, that he believes Musharraf's military is in
firm control of the country's nuclear arsenal and does not think that
is a cause for concern now.
The center's report put U.S. aid for Pakistani schools at about $64
million.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 10:48 am
From: Raul Endymion
Milenko Kindl
JERUSALEM - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Sunday the U.S.
will review its aid to Pakistan after the country's military ruler
suspended the constitution. Her announcement puts in question some of
the billions in U.S. assistance to a close terrorism-fighting ally.
ADVERTISEMENT
On a Mideast trip now overshadowed by the unfolding crisis in nuclear-
armed Pakistan, Rice suggested that the Bush administration would not
suspend aid wholesale.
The U.S. has provided about $11 billion to Pakistan since 2001, when
Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, made a strategic shift to
ally with the United States after the Sept. 11 attacks.
"Some of the aid that goes to Pakistan is directly related to the
counterterrorism mission," Rice told reporters traveling with her. "We
just have to review the situation. But I would be very surprised if
anyone wants the president to ignore or set aside our concerns about
terrorism," Rice said.
The top U.S. diplomat said she had not spoken directly with Musharraf
since he announced what she called "extraconstitutional" moves on
Saturday. In addition to suspending the constitution, he ousted the
country's top judge and deployed troops to fight what he called rising
Islamic extremism.
"I'm disappointed in his decision, sure," Rice said. "I think his
decision sets Pakistan back in the considerable progress it made
toward democratic change."
After hearing word of the U.S. review, Sen. Joe Biden, chairman of the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said, "I would be on the phone
with Musharraf making it clear to him that there's a price to pay if
he does not rectify what he's just done."
After Musharraf imposed a state of emergency, the Pentagon said the
declaration did not affect U.S. military support of Pakistan.
The review cited by Rice would look in part at whether some current
aid cannot continue because of U.S. legal restrictions that set
conditions for governments to receive money. That probably would cover
only a small amount of the total aid, which now runs to about $150
million each month.
The Center for Strategic and International Studies reported in August
that less than 10 percent of the aid bill since 2001 has paid for
economic and social projects.
Rice promoted such assistance, particularly for education, when she
told reporters that the U.S. has looked beyond Musharraf and made a
choice to support what had seemed to be an increasingly democratic
nation at a critical time.
"The United States did not put all its chips on Musharraf," Rice said.
Biden, D-Del., said an aid review was appropriate, but that the
administration has embraced policies that limit its options.
"I don't that they have any notion of what they're going to do right
now," he said. "This administration has a Musharraf policy, not a
Pakistan policy. It's tied to Musharraf and it's hands are pretty well
tied right now," said Biden, who is running for president in 2008.
"This is the most dangerous and complex relationship that we have and
we have a huge stake ... in seeing to it that the moderate majority in
Pakistan have a political outlet," he added. "Absent that political
outlet, what I worry about is they will join in league with the
extremists," citing what happened with Iran in 1979 when the shah was
overthrown and an Islamic theocracy set up.
Speaking of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran, Biden said "all these dots
are connected" and the administration "doesn't have a policy. It has a
Musharraf policy but it doesn't have a policy relative to Pakistan and
how it affects everything else in the region."
Biden also said, however, that he believes Musharraf's military is in
firm control of the country's nuclear arsenal and does not think that
is a cause for concern now.
The center's report put U.S. aid for Pakistani schools at about $64
million.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 10:49 am
From: Raul Endymion
Milenko Kindl
JERUSALEM - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Sunday the U.S.
will review its aid to Pakistan after the country's military ruler
suspended the constitution. Her announcement puts in question some of
the billions in U.S. assistance to a close terrorism-fighting ally.
ADVERTISEMENT
On a Mideast trip now overshadowed by the unfolding crisis in nuclear-
armed Pakistan, Rice suggested that the Bush administration would not
suspend aid wholesale.
The U.S. has provided about $11 billion to Pakistan since 2001, when
Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, made a strategic shift to
ally with the United States after the Sept. 11 attacks.
"Some of the aid that goes to Pakistan is directly related to the
counterterrorism mission," Rice told reporters traveling with her. "We
just have to review the situation. But I would be very surprised if
anyone wants the president to ignore or set aside our concerns about
terrorism," Rice said.
The top U.S. diplomat said she had not spoken directly with Musharraf
since he announced what she called "extraconstitutional" moves on
Saturday. In addition to suspending the constitution, he ousted the
country's top judge and deployed troops to fight what he called rising
Islamic extremism.
"I'm disappointed in his decision, sure," Rice said. "I think his
decision sets Pakistan back in the considerable progress it made
toward democratic change."
After hearing word of the U.S. review, Sen. Joe Biden, chairman of the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said, "I would be on the phone
with Musharraf making it clear to him that there's a price to pay if
he does not rectify what he's just done."
After Musharraf imposed a state of emergency, the Pentagon said the
declaration did not affect U.S. military support of Pakistan.
The review cited by Rice would look in part at whether some current
aid cannot continue because of U.S. legal restrictions that set
conditions for governments to receive money. That probably would cover
only a small amount of the total aid, which now runs to about $150
million each month.
The Center for Strategic and International Studies reported in August
that less than 10 percent of the aid bill since 2001 has paid for
economic and social projects.
Rice promoted such assistance, particularly for education, when she
told reporters that the U.S. has looked beyond Musharraf and made a
choice to support what had seemed to be an increasingly democratic
nation at a critical time.
"The United States did not put all its chips on Musharraf," Rice said.
Biden, D-Del., said an aid review was appropriate, but that the
administration has embraced policies that limit its options.
"I don't that they have any notion of what they're going to do right
now," he said. "This administration has a Musharraf policy, not a
Pakistan policy. It's tied to Musharraf and it's hands are pretty well
tied right now," said Biden, who is running for president in 2008.
"This is the most dangerous and complex relationship that we have and
we have a huge stake ... in seeing to it that the moderate majority in
Pakistan have a political outlet," he added. "Absent that political
outlet, what I worry about is they will join in league with the
extremists," citing what happened with Iran in 1979 when the shah was
overthrown and an Islamic theocracy set up.
Speaking of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran, Biden said "all these dots
are connected" and the administration "doesn't have a policy. It has a
Musharraf policy but it doesn't have a policy relative to Pakistan and
how it affects everything else in the region."
Biden also said, however, that he believes Musharraf's military is in
firm control of the country's nuclear arsenal and does not think that
is a cause for concern now.
The center's report put U.S. aid for Pakistani schools at about $64
million.
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 10:55 am
From: Bill Rider
PaPaPeng wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:10:19 -0700, zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> As a person who had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for all my life I know
> exactly the problems you face. In my case 10 years ago (I'm retired
> now) I found by chance that I am food intolerant to soy, gluten,
> legumes and a few more common foods that in others would trigger an
> allergic reaction.
Leaky Gut causes intolerance to lots of foods.
>
> I'll skip the discovery process and get straight down to the "cure"
> you may try. Avoid intolerance foods. Look up WIKI on "The Leaky
> Gut".
Bad article. They make it sound like a wacko theory. In fact, a lot of
the body's energy goes into maintaining the gut lining. It takes
sufficient rest and good nutrition. Flaws in the lining allow
undigested proteins into the blood. That's common. If it happens
enough, allergies develop to certain proteins. That can make the gut
leak worse.
When an endocrinologist suggested that's what I had, I realized I had
recently become intolerant of many foods and the trouble would start
about an hour after eating.
>
> With intolerance foods our body's immune system is cranked all the way
> up to fight the "toxins". That means our metabolism is elevated and
> never allowed to achieve basal rate - I feel toasty all the time.
> That's my theory why we do not get restful sleep.
I was so bad my temperature stayed below normal. If I went out to mow
the lawn on a warm day, it would drop a couple more degrees and might
take an hour to come back up.
>
> Use the common allergen foods as your reference point. This may
> include the "health foods" such as tofu, liver, kidneys and a few
> other exotic stuff food faddists will swear by. Another good
> reference point is foods some kid hate such as cabbage-brocolli, peas,
> spinach. Remove them from your meals. I won't confuse you with my
> theories as to why. Try for two months at least to eat the simplest
> foods that agree with you. Fresh meat and veggies. Plain carbs such
> as rice, oats or wheat flour. Avoid processed foods. They all have
> soy flour or oil added and spices. For me that's practically toxic.
> They taste darn good though. Now that I am resensitized even a cube
> of tofu in soup will give me an instant cold sore on my inner lip. As
> an oriental there was soy in every meal and you see why I had an
> undiscovered lifelong problem until late in life. This brings up the
> point that you must use minimal salt and no other condiments or
> sauces.
The endocrinologist recommended two things: 400 mg a day of magnesium
added to my drinking water and vitamin A. The improvement started
immediately and progressed for months.
Most modern Americans don't get enough magnesium. (A blood test is not
a good indicator.) Americans used to depend on liver for vitamin A. I
was depending on pills, but the beta carotene in pills may not work.
Most fruits and vegetables don't have much, and you won't get it if they
aren't cooked. They need to be eaten with fat so the beta carotene can
be converted. Exercise and spending time outdoors increase the
requirement for vitamin A.
Polyunsaturated vegetable oils, legumes, and cabbage-broccoli vegetables
can interfere with production of thyroid hormone, which can result in
chronic fatigue, leaky gut, and lots of other problems. Soy products
are especially bad. I avoid them and polyunsaturated oils. I stick to
butter, coconut oil, olive oil, and beef fat. I don't eat more than
half a cup of legumes, measured dry, per day. Cooking broccoli-cabbage
vegetables reduces their effect on thyroid levels.
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 11:47 am
From: William Souden
Rod Speed wrote:
> Jon v Leipzig <JVL@myday.com> wrote:
>> Michelle la Belle wrote:
>>> On Nov 3, 6:08 pm, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> No,here in the Uk, once you're referred to a psychiatrist,only he
>>>> can prescribe pills. But I do recall scomeone telling me that your
>>>> GP can change you to a different set of antidepressant pills.
>>>> However,I haven't checked if my GP is willing to overide my
>>>> Psychiatrists prescription.
>>>> If only the blood donation service gave you financial rewards for
>>>> donating blood! Also, i remeber reading somewhere that in bygone
>>>> days people who were ill would often state they felt better after
>>>> having blood removed.- Hide quoted text -
>
>>> I don't know why they stopped the "drill a hole through the top of
>>> your head" technique. That was supposed to relieve all kinds of things.
>
>> Too messy.
>> Drugs "drill" thru the blood-brain barrier, accomplish the same thing.
>
>> The "scienc" behind both methods is about the same.
>
> Nope, the drugs are what has allowed the closer of the vast
> bulk of locked wards and allowed the loonys to stay at home
> or on the streets instead. Which is what most of them prefer.
>
> Its completely trivial to show in proper double blind
> trials that they do work quite effectively most of the time.
>
> The only real problem is getting the loonys to keep taking them when they should.
>
>
Yes,look what happens when you stop your meds.
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 12:19 pm
From: Michelle la Belle
On Nov 4, 7:30 am, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 4 Nov, 07:39, Michelle la Belle <aminotem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 3, 3:11 pm, barbie gee <barbie....@NOSESPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Don K wrote:
> > > > <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:1194041419.873824.7490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > > >> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> > > >> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> > > >> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> > > >> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> > > >> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> > > >> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> > > >> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
> > > >> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> > > >> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> > > >> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> > > >> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
>
> > > > Since you're depressed you probably have a hard time doing anything.
>
> > > > So the easiest way to make "extra" money is to do even less.
>
> > > > Do less by cutting back on your lifestyle until you are living within
> > > > your means. That is the surest way to get "extra" money. You don't
> > > > have to compete for the job and no one can fire you.
>
> > > > Once your lifestyle stabilizes and matches your income, you will find
> > > > yourself less stressed. Then you can have something to look forward
> > > > to by considering what else you can do to improve your life without
> > > > being under pressure to pay your bills.
>
> > > why is he looking to earn more, when the clear solution is to spend less?
> > > aka, eliminate or reduce the goods and services that are sending you all
> > > these "bills". If he doesn't go anywhere, what more than food, shelter
> > > and utilities can he be spending on?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > But how would he be able to live without his magic mushrooms and phone
> > sex? come on! The guy needs SOME pleasure in life!! ;)- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> LOL. Yes,it's hard to live without phone sex,at least once a week. I
> mean 3 pounds on phone sex per week ain't so bad. Since I don't smoke
> cigarette or drink alcohol. Everyone's gotta have at least one vice!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Well your money is going somewhere.
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 12:26 pm
From: Michelle la Belle
On Nov 4, 12:45 pm, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> Michelle la Belle wrote:
> > On Nov 3, 1:25 pm, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> >> zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> Exercise may not change your mental state, but having your physical
> >> energy level increased is still worthwhile. Then again, it can even
> >> affect your mental state. Especially heavy-duty cardio (like running
> >> 5 miles) can do that. You've heard of a "runner's high", probably,
> >> and that does exist, but exercise can also sometimes allow a sort of
> >> emotional release where you can let go of your stress and other
> >> negative stuff that's floating around in your head and not doing
> >> you any good.
> > My experience disagrees with you. I tried exercise - walking,
> > running, cycling, badminton - nothing gave me more energy. Yoga
> > helped relax me. It was not until last year when I was a lot better
> > that I got anything like a good feeling from exercise. I started
> > working out at a gym and I was amazed at how good it made me feel.
> > For the clinically depressed, I'd say, exercise in moderation and get
> > as much relaxation as you can.
>
> Depression is a strange thing. Stress can aggravate or even cause
> depression. At least with me it seems to be a major contributing
> factor. So, you may want to minimize stress. But then how do you
> do that?
>
> For myself, I personally found that relaxing too much actually made
> me more stressed out. I felt like I was wasting my life and never
> accomplishing anything, which of course made me feel stressed out
> and depressed. Since then I've settled on a policy of working hard while
> I'm working, doing that for a known and limited amount of time, and then
> when I'm done with work (whether it's my job or other stuff), doing my
> best to immediately forget about it and think about something else.
>
> It also helps me to do stuff to actively get rid of stress, which
> includes mentally distracting myself (such as watching a movie instead
> of sitting around and vegetating) and getting exercise.
>
> Of course, I'm lucky enough that what depression I suffer from is mild
> enough that it can usually be countered with stuff like the above.
> I do recognize that other people suffer from depression which is more
> severe. I'm not saying that exercise is going to cure anybody. But
> I am saying I think it has the potential to help, and if you are
> depressed and you haven't tried exercise, you should.
>
> - Logan- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think exercise can help almost anybody. Just not so much with
severe depression. If you are working, then good for you. Relaxing
too much? Sure, sleeping all day would be what I would call relaxing
too much but then it's probably more like, I'm sleeping because I want
to escape my depression, or because I can't think of anything to do;
so that would make you feel bad.
A more productive way to relax would be to do relaxation exercises,
preferably with a group; go to a yoga class; or meditation; have a
sauna; do breathing exercises; that kind of thing. Kicking back and
watching a movie is better than nothing.
Even now when I'm having a bad day, if I go to the gym I can't do
jack. Depression does affect you physically as well as mentally after
all. A more appropriate exercise for a bad day would be to go for a
short walk.
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 12:45 pm
From: "mart2306@hotmail.com"
On 4 Nov, 20:26, Michelle la Belle <aminotem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 4, 12:45 pm, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Michelle la Belle wrote:
> > > On Nov 3, 1:25 pm, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> > >> zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >> Exercise may not change your mental state, but having your physical
> > >> energy level increased is still worthwhile. Then again, it can even
> > >> affect your mental state. Especially heavy-duty cardio (like running
> > >> 5 miles) can do that. You've heard of a "runner's high", probably,
> > >> and that does exist, but exercise can also sometimes allow a sort of
> > >> emotional release where you can let go of your stress and other
> > >> negative stuff that's floating around in your head and not doing
> > >> you any good.
> > > My experience disagrees with you. I tried exercise - walking,
> > > running, cycling, badminton - nothing gave me more energy. Yoga
> > > helped relax me. It was not until last year when I was a lot better
> > > that I got anything like a good feeling from exercise. I started
> > > working out at a gym and I was amazed at how good it made me feel.
> > > For the clinically depressed, I'd say, exercise in moderation and get
> > > as much relaxation as you can.
>
> > Depression is a strange thing. Stress can aggravate or even cause
> > depression. At least with me it seems to be a major contributing
> > factor. So, you may want to minimize stress. But then how do you
> > do that?
>
> > For myself, I personally found that relaxing too much actually made
> > me more stressed out. I felt like I was wasting my life and never
> > accomplishing anything, which of course made me feel stressed out
> > and depressed. Since then I've settled on a policy of working hard while
> > I'm working, doing that for a known and limited amount of time, and then
> > when I'm done with work (whether it's my job or other stuff), doing my
> > best to immediately forget about it and think about something else.
>
> > It also helps me to do stuff to actively get rid of stress, which
> > includes mentally distracting myself (such as watching a movie instead
> > of sitting around and vegetating) and getting exercise.
>
> > Of course, I'm lucky enough that what depression I suffer from is mild
> > enough that it can usually be countered with stuff like the above.
> > I do recognize that other people suffer from depression which is more
> > severe. I'm not saying that exercise is going to cure anybody. But
> > I am saying I think it has the potential to help, and if you are
> > depressed and you haven't tried exercise, you should.
>
> > - Logan- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I think exercise can help almost anybody. Just not so much with
> severe depression. If you are working, then good for you. Relaxing
> too much? Sure, sleeping all day would be what I would call relaxing
> too much but then it's probably more like, I'm sleeping because I want
> to escape my depression, or because I can't think of anything to do;
> so that would make you feel bad.
>
> A more productive way to relax would be to do relaxation exercises,
> preferably with a group; go to a yoga class; or meditation; have a
> sauna; do breathing exercises; that kind of thing. Kicking back and
> watching a movie is better than nothing.
>
> Even now when I'm having a bad day, if I go to the gym I can't do
> jack. Depression does affect you physically as well as mentally after
> all. A more appropriate exercise for a bad day would be to go for a
> short walk.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
There are many ways to relax. For some its sleep, for others its yoga,
for others its exercise.
It varies from individual to individual. Even possible to work to
relax (gardening, DIY, cooking, write and so on).
Martin <><
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 1:26 pm
From: justin sane
purpleveggie wrote:
> being paid to wank seems like money for old rope.
>
What benefits can you get for going blind.?
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 1:33 pm
From: "mart2306@hotmail.com"
On 4 Nov, 21:26, justin sane <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> purpleveggie wrote:
> > being paid to wank seems like money for old rope.
>
> What benefits can you get for going blind.?
None.
However, for being unable to work due to blindness there are the same
benefits as being unable to work due to any other illness or
disability.
Plus there disability living allowance if you can't do some things or
need help doing them. But not awarded based on the disability.
Martin <><
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 11:18 am
From: "19.pa" <19.pa.80@gmail.com>
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TOPIC: An Offense To Sensibility: The Mail-In Rebate
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 12:14 pm
From: Derald
You are, of course, referring to those rebates that compel one to buy
the related products and to use them, right?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 2:55 pm
From: Scott in SoCal
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:15:32 GMT, "Winston Smith, American Patriot"
<FranzKafka@Oceania.WhiteHouse.GOV> wrote:
>Is there anyone out there who is an apologist for the Mail-In Rebate?
>Really and truly??
There are lots of them here. You'll no doubt be hearing from some of
them very soon.
>Is it an automatic turn-off?
Somewhat. I won't avoid buying a product just because it has a MIR,
but I also will not factor the after-rebate price into my purchase
decision. All price comparisons are based on the price I pay AT THE
REGISTER. The item with the rebate might still be the best bang/buck
even at the pre-rebate price; if so, I'll buy it. I may even submit
the rebate, but because I don't count on receiving it I'm not
disappointed when it never arrives. And I certainly don't waste hours
of my time, send lots of letters or emails, make lots of phone calls,
and experience needless frustration trying to badger some asshole
company into paying me what they rightly owe me. If the check comes,
great - it's a nice windfall. And if it doesn't, I still made the best
choice of all available options.
>And if so, does anyone go the trouble to
>contact the manufacturer or vendor to tell him that if he really wants to
>sell the product at the reduced price, to stop the invasion of privacy by
>trying to get customer demographic information or to at least pay for it by
>offering a rebate that is at the very least 75% or more of the product
>price??
No, because it's a waste of time. Companies that offer rebates know
that the kooks who call them with such demands are in a VERY SMALL
minority and can be safely ignored. The best I can do as a consumer is
vote with my wallet and not make any purchases based on the
after-rebate price. Companies will only change their ways if enough
people do the same and FORCE them to change; as long as the sheeple
keep stuffing the dollar bills into these companies' pockets, they
have ZERO incentive to change the way they do business.
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TOPIC: Energizer Rechargable "D" Battery Exposed
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 12:29 pm
From: "Bob F"
"max" <betatron@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:betatron-2A8BB2.04092704112007@news.ftupet.com...
> In article <472d47fe$0$9592$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, if you don't, you don't really have any basis on which to make
>> choice between batteries. It would be sort of like buying a car (to
>> use the analogy in the original article) and not knowing what "horsepower"
>> means. Of course, a car is a bigger decision worthy of investing more
>> effort, but if you put too little effort into your purchasing decisions,
>> you're going to get bad results.
>
>
> Since crystalization of space time from the frothy boil of the
> multiverse, AA capacity has been fractional to D. I am unaware of any
> exceptions to this, and i've been buying or using batteries for almost
> 50 years.
>
> A reasonable basis for battery comparison within a chemical family is
> simple: How Big Is It? More volume means more room for battery guts=>
> more power. Always has. And for emphasis: reasonable.
>
> Size also is, or should be, fairly probative across manufacturers, since
> battery technology is pretty cut-and-dried. Nobody really has any
> tricks. It would be frankly quite surprising to find much more than a
> 10% spread. Oh. wait. It IS surprising!
>
> D cells have always had more more ma-hrs than AA's, at least until
> Energizer came along.
>
> Energizer's rechargable D-cell is a purely fraudulently promoted product
> and they should be nailed to a fence over it.
>
> so, i have to disagree.
>
There were nicads built the same way in the past. It's just a way to make a
battery for devices requireing a D cell for a moderate price. Don't make a big
deal out of nothing.
Bob
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 1:11 pm
From: "Bob F"
"larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:NddXi.676$RR6.422@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
> We're still using six GE GC3 1.2AH D Nicads (black jacket) in our 2 cell
> flashlights. Still have the "12/83" paper labels I marked them with when
> first put in service! Recharge them about once a month in the original 16hr GE
> "wall wart" charger, which I attribute to why they lasted this long. And
> these are the smaller C cell in a D case.
>
> Did change the flashlight bulbs to kryptons, but these nicads still will
> outlast a set of carbon/zincs. Originally bought 12 cells, but the other six
> died from nichrome "wisker" shorts within five years. The nicads don't self
> discharge in a month like the newer NiMHs do. Important for the flashlights
> in the vehicles.
>
> I don't think it makes much sense to use high AH cells in a flashlight. These
> match the load and have saved a lot of carbon/zincs over the years. I CAN see
> using high AH in digital cameras, ours can't make it thru 2 hours with 2600mAH
> NiMH AA's ;-)
>
> With the new high power/fast smart chargers and batteries, we're lucky to get
> three years use out of the new storage technology. Be it alarm system, ups,
> cellphone, or laptop.
I've still got some 4 AH D cell Nicads that work - acquired about 1972 or so.
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TOPIC: Cupcake meow: Kitty's got a fetish
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 1:15 pm
From: prettybaby@softhome.net
Kitty sure loves her cupcakes. See if you can get your paws on any of
hers.
http://joyangel123.wordpress.com
Obsession goes to the next level.
Do you have any good fun obsessions?
prettybaby
http://www.artsaleclub.com
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TOPIC: Frugal Data Recovery
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1c914c298c99ecae?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 1:17 pm
From: dale randall
Jeff wrote:
> I'll need to recover some files off a hard disk that has lost or
> corrupted it's directory. (win 2000, NTFS I think. Chkdsk won't run.)
>
> Any recommendations for a frugal but good data recovery program? The
> mass of commercial programs out there is a bit much for me to sort through.
>
> This may not be strictly on topic here, but this is a very diverse and
> intelligent group and I don't think this will be the days worst topic!
>
> Jeff
>
Here is a free program That I used to recover info from and old hd that
I had changed formats from fat to the later format and it wouldn't read
anything .
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 1:53 pm
From: "Alan Parkington"
"Shawn Hirn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-D4224A.01195604112007@newsgroups.comcast.net...
>
> Google for "Data Rescue" then consider setting up a good strategy to
> back up your hard drive on a regular basis.
Wow.. you must be some kind of genius. Well done!
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TOPIC: New boot disk - What freeware to reinstall (here is my list, for
starters)
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 1:38 pm
From: Erica Eshoo
Unfortunately, my kid lost his boot disk recently and I had to reimage
WinXP and now it's time to add all the freeware back.
Silly me - in addition to no backups, we don't have a well defined list of
freeware that was installed - so, we're starting from scratch, again. :(
I wish I had kept a list. I'm trying to remember from memory what needs to
be installed on a laptop to make it useful.
I think these are the required software additions for my NEW running list
of freeware aps that must be on a typical windows XP pc.
Mandatory Operating System Patches (for laptops):
- Windows XP SP2
- Wireless encryption http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917021
- Any others?
Required freeware capabilities (from memory):
- Browse the web with Firefox to replace IE
- Email with Thunderbird to replace OE
- Create PDFs with CutePDF to replace Acrobat
- View photos with Irfanview & edit with Paint.NET
- Firewall with ZoneAlarm to replace Windows Firewall
- AntiVirus with Avast to replace McAfee
- Archive with IZArc to replace WinZip
- Office documents with Sun OpenOffice to replace MS Office
- Security with TrueCrypt to replace PGP
- Usenet with XNews to replace google groups
- Torrent with Bittorrent to replace ftp
- Ipod with SharePod to replace ITunes song transfer
- Audacity & MultiID3 tag editor to replace iTunes editing
- Backup dvds with DVDFabDecrypter
- Convert avi to DVD with DVDFlick
- Burn DVDs with ImgBurn
- Maps with GoogleEarth
- RealAlternative to replace RealPlayer
- QuicktimeAlternative to replace QuickTime
- Media Player Classic to replace Windows Media Player
- GNU Flash Alternative to replace Macromedia Flash Player
- Skype to replace land lines
- AdAware, SpywareBlaster, & Spybot Search & Destroy for privacy
- Ccleaner to maintain a clean PC & registry
- Any others?
I'm sure I missed a half-dozen or more critical freeware necessities for a
typical laptop. Can you help me refresh my memory.
What other freeware do most people need to set up a decent Windows XP PC?
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 2:11 pm
From: Frank McCoy
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Erica Eshoo <evesunflor@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>Unfortunately, my kid lost his boot disk recently and I had to reimage
>WinXP and now it's time to add all the freeware back.
>
>Silly me - in addition to no backups, we don't have a well defined list of
>freeware that was installed - so, we're starting from scratch, again. :(
>
That's why I always keep a separate directory of "installs" containing
just about everything I've downloaded off the net that I can direct the
download to a directory instead of just running.
Every so often I backup that installs directory to a CD-ROM.
That's not counting other backup methods I use.
It saves *enormous* amounts of time and trouble when I have to do a
complete rebuild of any system, or a fresh install of a new one.
>I wish I had kept a list. I'm trying to remember from memory what needs to
>be installed on a laptop to make it useful.
>
>I think these are the required software additions for my NEW running list
>of freeware aps that must be on a typical windows XP pc.
>
>Mandatory Operating System Patches (for laptops):
>- Windows XP SP2
>- Wireless encryption http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917021
>- Any others?
>
>Required freeware capabilities (from memory):
>- Browse the web with Firefox to replace IE
I still have my old Netscape.
>- Email with Thunderbird to replace OE
I use Eudora.
>- Create PDFs with CutePDF to replace Acrobat
>- View photos with Irfanview & edit with Paint.NET
Be sure and get all the plugins for Irfanview.
>- Firewall with ZoneAlarm to replace Windows Firewall
>- AntiVirus with Avast to replace McAfee
>- Archive with IZArc to replace WinZip
I use WinRar instead of WinZip (It's by the same company; and has the
same licencing; only it supports far more formats.)
>- Office documents with Sun OpenOffice to replace MS Office
>- Security with TrueCrypt to replace PGP
What's wrong with PGP?
>- Usenet with XNews to replace google groups
Agent or FreeAgent. MUCH better.
>- Torrent with Bittorrent to replace ftp
>- Ipod with SharePod to replace ITunes song transfer
>- Audacity & MultiID3 tag editor to replace iTunes editing
>- Backup dvds with DVDFabDecrypter
>- Convert avi to DVD with DVDFlick
Except for the price, AVS really covers that better than anybody else
I've found ... and believe me I *looked* really hard!
>- Burn DVDs with ImgBurn
>- Maps with GoogleEarth
>- RealAlternative to replace RealPlayer
>- QuicktimeAlternative to replace QuickTime
>- Media Player Classic to replace Windows Media Player
>- GNU Flash Alternative to replace Macromedia Flash Player
>- Skype to replace land lines
>- AdAware, SpywareBlaster, & Spybot Search & Destroy for privacy
Get Bazooka Adware scanner to add to those.
>- Ccleaner to maintain a clean PC & registry
>- Any others?
>
>I'm sure I missed a half-dozen or more critical freeware necessities for a
>typical laptop. Can you help me refresh my memory.
>
>What other freeware do most people need to set up a decent Windows XP PC?
Let's see ... from my Installs directory:
DivX and XVID
The Aptiva Toolbox (Including things like Windiff, Startup Manager, and
Enditall)
BCwipe for security. (I also have Norton Wipeinfo; but it doesn't fit
so neatly into the Windows Shell.)
CPU-Z for checking out your processor and memory.
A separate bootable copy of Memtest86+
Same with Spinrite (though it's not free).
Make a separate directory of all your fonts.
A good Windows RPN calulator: Either Xcalc or Xcalibur-32-bit (I have
both)
Rgh Extensions to Windows
Synctoy (from Microsoft)
TweakUI (from Microsoft ... get the Windows-XP version)
Nistime-32bit for setting your clock accurately.
V (or V8) file-viewer.
The latest VIA 4-in-1 installer, along with the latest Realtek AC-97
sound driver.
And finally, the latest DirectX installer from Microsoft as a
redistributable package.
Those'll give you a start.
Having them ALL on a CD-ROM, and not having to spend *hours* downloading
them from the net, saves *so much* time!
--
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 2:16 pm
From: Conor
In article <8ZqXi.18808$JD.18447@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>, Erica
Eshoo says...
> - Archive with IZArc to replace WinZip
Try jzip instead. It's based on 7-zip but has a Winzip type GUI.
--
Conor
I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
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TOPIC: A legal method of asset protection is being offered .....
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 2:28 pm
From: HelpSupportIsrael@gmail.com
On Nov 2, 12:14 pm, "jerryl" <j...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "CollegeDyanmics" <CollegeDynam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1194007001.741850.239800@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Nov 2, 7:31 am, "jerryl" <j...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> "CollegeDyanmics" <CollegeDynam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1194005840.074560.51490@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >I found an auction on e-bay that is offering a legal method of asset
> >> > protection. It protects your car as well as your cash. Your car needs
> >> > to be protected because, if it is not protected, creditors may seize
> >> > your car.
>
> >> > Check out the method at:
> >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESEX:I...
>
> >> > I bought the method from this seller, and it worked for me. It
> >> > protected my car and my bank account. My house still has a lien on it,
> >> > but it is protected from every other creditor besides the mortgage
> >> > broker. I own my car free and clear, and the methods in the report
> >> > prevented a creditor with a judgment against me from having my car
> >> > seized.
>
> >> > I wish I could tell you more, but I don't feel it is right to give
> >> > someone else's intellectual property away. The man who wrote the
> >> > report did extensive research to come up with a legal method of asset
> >> > protection.
>
> >> Gee, the intellectual info is being sold by someone on Ebay with 0,
> >> that's
> >> zero feedback. The item was just placed on Ebay an hour ago and you're
> >> telling us that you already purchased it (there were no bids or buyers on
> >> the item) and saved your car, your house and your underwear. That's
> >> great.
> >> Don't you think that your shilling of your own sale is quite obvious and
> >> stupid?
>
> > I bought from him before, he asked me to help him advertise.
>
> If you bought from him before, why does he have zero feedback?
I bought from him a while back. it is a system of setting up shell
corporations, and it works great.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 4 2007 2:40 pm
From: Scott in SoCal
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:28:28 -0000, HelpSupportIsrael@gmail.com wrote:
>On Nov 2, 12:14 pm, "jerryl" <j...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> "CollegeDyanmics" <CollegeDynam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1194007001.741850.239800@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Nov 2, 7:31 am, "jerryl" <j...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >> "CollegeDyanmics" <CollegeDynam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1194005840.074560.51490@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >I found an auction on e-bay that is offering a legal method of asset
>> >> > protection. It protects your car as well as your cash. Your car needs
>> >> > to be protected because, if it is not protected, creditors may seize
>> >> > your car.
>>
>> >> > Check out the method at:
>> >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESEX:I...
>>
>> >> > I bought the method from this seller, and it worked for me. It
>> >> > protected my car and my bank account. My house still has a lien on it,
>> >> > but it is protected from every other creditor besides the mortgage
>> >> > broker. I own my car free and clear, and the methods in the report
>> >> > prevented a creditor with a judgment against me from having my car
>> >> > seized.
>>
>> >> > I wish I could tell you more, but I don't feel it is right to give
>> >> > someone else's intellectual property away. The man who wrote the
>> >> > report did extensive research to come up with a legal method of asset
>> >> > protection.
>>
>> >> Gee, the intellectual info is being sold by someone on Ebay with 0,
>> >> that's
>> >> zero feedback. The item was just placed on Ebay an hour ago and you're
>> >> telling us that you already purchased it (there were no bids or buyers on
>> >> the item) and saved your car, your house and your underwear. That's
>> >> great.
>> >> Don't you think that your shilling of your own sale is quite obvious and
>> >> stupid?
>>
>> > I bought from him before, he asked me to help him advertise.
>>
>> If you bought from him before, why does he have zero feedback?
>
>I bought from him a while back. it is a system of setting up shell
>corporations, and it works great.
Lemme guess: you - er, I mean HE - got kicked off of eBay under his
old nym, and had to start all over again with a new one - hence the
zero feedback?
Speaking of nymshifts, how do you explain the fact that your nym
changed from "CollegeDynamics" to "HelpSupportIsrael?" Did gmail kick
you off too? :)
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