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TOPIC: OT: donation scams over the phone
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 4 2007 7:43 pm
From: George Grapman
** Frank ** wrote:
> I've been getting constant phone solicitation for donations, about once a
> week, for the police department during dinner times. I'm on the no call
> phone list but does this not appear to exclude certain groups. I've made the
> mistake of donating in the past and it turn out it wasn't for the local
> police but some other city outside my area. It also turn out the police only
> gets about 1% or 2% of the money with the remaining amount going to the
> telemarketers or fundraisers. Come to think of it, police in our area makes
> over $100K per year with overtime so do they really that hard up for a
> donation? Maybe I'll get some donuts and swing by the station in the
> morning. Its time to get caller ID as the fundraisers or scammers won't stop
> calling. I understand if its over the phone, its usually a scam. They are in
> full force during the holidays, so how do you guys handle this kind of scams
> and unwanted intrusions?
>
>
Several ways depending upon your mood and amount of time you want to
spend.
A-Simply hang up the phone.
B-Tell them you do not do any business on the phone and ask them to
send you something in mail. Wary of mail fraud charges and wanting quick
money the scammers will never do that.
C-Tell them you want to know their physical address (answering
with"please hold" is a good indication it is a scam)phone number,web
site and the percentage that actually goes to the charity.
D- Ask them to hold and tell them you are on another call (works best
with call waiting so your phone is not tied up). Hit mute and go to
speaker phone and resume what you are doing. After few minutes return
and give them partial information before getting another "call". A few
minutes later ask them if a lot of people hang up on them. Tell them
those people are doing them a favor as they can go the next call but
their worst enemy is someone who ties up their time just for the sake of
wasting their time. You have taken them from the high of already
counting the money to low of losing it. Say"good-bye" and hit mute.
Laugh as they scream, curse or cry.
E- Ask them if they know Captain Rod Speed from your local police
department. Laugh when they say, "yes"
F- If it is a female caller ask her what she is wearing and if she
knows what her voice is doing to you. If it is a male tell him you love
his voice
G- Play along but give them a fake credit card or checking account
number. A short while later a manager will call back to tell you that
the original caller must have written down the wrong digits. Act
confused, say you have no idea what they are talking about. After the
explanation tell them you just walked in the door having been gone all
day and no one else has been there. The manager will think the first
caller wrote up a fantasy sale.
With a home office I need to avoid most of this stuff so I have
Caller ID an the feature that blocks private numbers. Sometimes "Unknown
number" appears. I rarely answer and when no message is left I know it
was a sales call. Other times I say"you're selling, I'm not buying and
hang up. They rarely call back.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 4 2007 8:14 pm
From: Shawn Hirn
In article <i5qdnUf4AMHdjMvanZ2dnUVZ_hSdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"** Frank **" <noemall@xyz.net> wrote:
> I've been getting constant phone solicitation for donations, about once a
> week, for the police department during dinner times. I'm on the no call
> phone list but does this not appear to exclude certain groups. I've made the
> mistake of donating in the past and it turn out it wasn't for the local
> police but some other city outside my area. It also turn out the police only
> gets about 1% or 2% of the money with the remaining amount going to the
> telemarketers or fundraisers. Come to think of it, police in our area makes
> over $100K per year with overtime so do they really that hard up for a
> donation? Maybe I'll get some donuts and swing by the station in the
> morning. Its time to get caller ID as the fundraisers or scammers won't stop
> calling. I understand if its over the phone, its usually a scam. They are in
> full force during the holidays, so how do you guys handle this kind of scams
> and unwanted intrusions?
Caller-ID. I simply don't pick up the phone unless I recognize the
caller's name or phone number on my phone's display.
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TOPIC: Reverse Hiring Bonus: Legal?
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 4 2007 7:52 pm
From: George Grapman
jdrews88@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hello. I have a question that I hope I can receive some feedback on.
>
> I live in a struggling manufacturing region of the country (few jobs,
> high unemployment).
>
> Since last summer I have been unemployed and pounding the pavement
> looking for work. Even minimum wage (no benefit) jobs are scarce where
> I live. I'm really at the end of my rope. If I don't get hired for
> something soon I don't know what I'm going to do. My savings are
> almost gone.
>
> I've been considering doing something that I would have never
> considered in a million years just a short time ago. I know all of you
> have heard about hiring bonuses that companies offer new employees.
>
> I'm thinking of perhaps offering a potential employer an amount of
> money so that I can get a job.
>
> I'm talking about maybe $300.00 or so. This would be a kind of
> "reverse hiring bonus" I guess.
>
> This is not a plan to offer some human resource person a "bribe" to
> pick me over the other candidates. I would be offering this money to
> the company itself (or small business).
>
> What do you guys think? This is a serious post and I'm open to all
> comments.
>
> I've always been a good employee at all my other jobs. But I've never
> gone thru such a problem in finding work. I don't know what I'll do if
> I don't find something soon.
>
> Is my plan even legal? Could it work for me?
>
> Even a minimum wage job without benefits would be good.
>
> It is near Christmas time. I'm sure there is someone out there who
> would accept such an offer.
>
> Thank you all for any replies or insight you can give.
No matter how desperate you are never let an employer know that.
Better to go on your local craigslist and check out the "Etc.jobs",
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 4 2007 7:57 pm
From: George Grapman
Don K wrote:
> <jdrews88@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:32c6a717-3e3d-4078-96c6-6fdce6f37093@w56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> Hello. I have a question that I hope I can receive some feedback on.
> would accept such an offer.
>> Thank you all for any replies or insight you can give.
>
> It's probably fraught with risks for the employer.
>
> A variation on the theme might be more attractive.
> Offer to prove yourself by working for no pay on a trial basis for
> a short period of time.
Actually I did this several times. When satellite dishes were,big,
ugly and expensive I approached a company about a sales job. I told them
that since I already had a job I would not be desperate to close a sale
and offered to work on commission only for 30 days to see how things
worked out. Three weeks later I was offered a paid position.
Years later I had similar results with another job. In both cases the
companies were not actively looking but they understood that if I had no
trouble cold calling for a job I would readily do that looking for
customers.
>
> If they are not satisfied with your work, they can ask you to leave
> with no further complications. If they do like your work, they can
> then offer you the paying job.
>
> Don
>
>
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 4 2007 9:31 pm
From: timeOday
George Grapman wrote:
> No matter how desperate you are never let an employer know that.
Bingo. Aside from any rational reason, it's a turn-off. You have to
give the impression they'd be lucky to have you.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 4 2007 11:02 pm
From: sno
George Grapman wrote:
>
> jdrews88@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Hello. I have a question that I hope I can receive some feedback on.
> >
> > I live in a struggling manufacturing region of the country (few jobs,
> > high unemployment).
> >
> > Since last summer I have been unemployed and pounding the pavement
> > looking for work. Even minimum wage (no benefit) jobs are scarce where
> > I live. I'm really at the end of my rope. If I don't get hired for
> > something soon I don't know what I'm going to do. My savings are
> > almost gone.
> >
> > I've been considering doing something that I would have never
> > considered in a million years just a short time ago. I know all of you
> > have heard about hiring bonuses that companies offer new employees.
> >
> > I'm thinking of perhaps offering a potential employer an amount of
> > money so that I can get a job.
> >
> > I'm talking about maybe $300.00 or so. This would be a kind of
> > "reverse hiring bonus" I guess.
> >
> > This is not a plan to offer some human resource person a "bribe" to
> > pick me over the other candidates. I would be offering this money to
> > the company itself (or small business).
> >
> > What do you guys think? This is a serious post and I'm open to all
> > comments.
> >
> > I've always been a good employee at all my other jobs. But I've never
> > gone thru such a problem in finding work. I don't know what I'll do if
> > I don't find something soon.
> >
> > Is my plan even legal? Could it work for me?
> >
> > Even a minimum wage job without benefits would be good.
> >
> > It is near Christmas time. I'm sure there is someone out there who
> > would accept such an offer.
> >
> > Thank you all for any replies or insight you can give.
>
> No matter how desperate you are never let an employer know that.
> Better to go on your local craigslist and check out the "Etc.jobs",
If you have a temp hiring place in your area get a job through them....
a number of employers use them to get permanent people, after they
have checked them out as temps...
hope helps...have fun....sno
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TOPIC: Coinstar Warning
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 4 2007 8:39 pm
From: Here and Kickin'
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>
> Bill wrote:
>
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>>
>>> The Coinstar machines here have NEVER not charged a fee.
>>
>> Real Coinstar machines that do not charge a fee when just
>> converting coins to bills? I've never heard of that. How do they
>> make their money?
>
> Some posters have said that Coinstar doesn't charge a fee when it issues a
> store certificate instead of cash. I assume the store subsidizes it in some
> way.
Yeah, send the list over here. The Coinstar machines in my area do NOT
issue store certificates. I could use the receipt printed by the machines
to buy things from the store where the machine is located, however.
I looked at the company's web site. The conpany does waive the fee if you
buy a gift certificate for a national chain.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 4 2007 8:47 pm
From: Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG
In article <Xns99FC24A2F447MacCool@130.133.1.4>, Mac@2cool.com
says...
> Anthony Matonak:
>
> > You are discounting the possibility of a giant pink elephant in the
> > room that can not be seen, touched, heard, smelled or tested for in
> > any way.
> There is no such thing. Such a thing would not be an elephant but
> something as of yet undefined. An elephant is not 'just any damn thing we
> please for the sake of argument'.
Yeah. The invisible pink supernatural friend isn't an elephant.
It's an Invisible Pink Unicorn.
I think she hangs out with the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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Date: Tues, Dec 4 2007 9:37 pm
From: timeOday
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I really do not see the point of debating statistics here... you can
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