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TOPIC: Looking Back on 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/87e4dbc674eb5a06?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 3:19 pm
From: pc

Dawn wrote:
> Hello to the group,
> Today is a good day to look back and see how
> I did in my frugal life.
> I carried no credit card debt.
> I paid off the last bill that was not a mortgage or car.
> Started an emergency fund and have it almost funded for three months.
> Grew a hellacious garden and ate from it all summer which helped the
> grocery budget.
> Started making a few charitable donations, as I feel it is the right
> thing to do.
> The pantry is pretty well stocked and stays that way.
> Dawn, who lives frugal enough to go out and buy a mini cooper which
> gets 38 mpg with my driving.

Hi all. <waves to Dawn!>

My most frugal event of the year was redoing our kitchen. By really
researching all our options and doing all the work ourselves..we
estimate the kitchen cost 1/4 to 1/3 what it would have cost to have it
done. We also paid for it all with a points credit card that we
immediately paid off.

On a bit of a morbid note..one of my dogs passed away. He was fourteen,
a difficult dog with 'issues' his whole life. While I loved him dearly
and miss him terribly, his passing is saving us about $1000 per year.

With that extra money, I have been investing in stocks. I enjoy
learning about that and have done pretty well.

No garden here, Dawn..besides a few banana plants that are doing well.
I had grand plans for playing with hydroponics in 07. Maybe I'll get to
it in 08!

..PC

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TOPIC: Best prepaid or "Pay As You Go" cel plan for occasional user?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4dee5a0b0a1d2906?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 3:24 pm
From: The Real Bev

SMS wrote:

> I don't find it any more difficult to dial the OneSuite or TalkLoop
> access number than dialing 1010xxx, and it's 2-2.5¢/minute. However you
> have to add $10 every six months.

Hey, I can't even remember my children's phone numbers!

--
Cheers, Bev
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Don't tax me. Don't tax thee. Tax that man behind the tree.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 3:29 pm
From: The Real Bev

Todd Allcock wrote:

> At 01 Jan 2008 17:09:02 +0000 Stephen King wrote:
>
>> > Or just buy a Tracfone or other prepaid one from a store, leave it
>> > unopened, and only activate it when you need it.
>>
>> help! help!
>> Killers are after me.
>> Please wait; I have to activate my phone.
>> LOL
>
> You must lead a far more interesting life than most of us, if te first
> "emergency" situation you envision is "killers are after me."

If there aren't serious consequences it's not an emergency, it's just a
nuisance.

> You'd think MI5'd pay for YOUR phone. :-)
>
> For the rest of us, the advice was ok. I imagine you have a few minutes to
> kill activating a phone for an emergency as mundane as "my car broke down."

That depends on where you are, how visible you are, and how fast cars or
hoodlums are approaching.

> Amazingly enough, mankind managed to crawl out of the muck and create
> nearly all of human acheivement in the 1,999,970 years before the invention
> of the cellular telephone.

Yeah, but Thag an Urg didn't have to worry about 18-wheelers coming at
them at 80 mph.

--
Cheers, Bev
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Don't tax me. Don't tax thee. Tax that man behind the tree.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 7:50 pm
From: SMS 斯蒂文• 夏

Todd Allcock wrote:

> For the rest of us, the advice was ok. I imagine you have a few minutes to
> kill activating a phone for an emergency as mundane as "my car broke down."

Probably not okay actually. Tracfones can be activated on-line, or by
calling a toll free number. However you should still be able to call 911
on an unactivated phone.

> Amazingly enough, mankind managed to crawl out of the muck and create
> nearly all of human acheivement in the 1,999,970 years before the invention
> of the cellular telephone.

One negative about the penetration of cell phones has been the wholesale
removal of pay phones. It's a lot harder to get buy without one now.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 7:50 pm
From: SMS 斯蒂文• 夏

The Real Bev wrote:
> SMS wrote:
>
>> I don't find it any more difficult to dial the OneSuite or TalkLoop
>> access number than dialing 1010xxx, and it's 2-2.5Â¢/minute. However
>> you have to add $10 every six months.
>
> Hey, I can't even remember my children's phone numbers!

Me neither. I have them programmed into my contact list.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 9:47 pm
From: larry

SMS 斯蒂文• 夏 wrote:
> Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> For the rest of us, the advice was ok. I imagine you have a few
>> minutes to
>> kill activating a phone for an emergency as mundane as "my car broke
>> down."
>
>
> Probably not okay actually. Tracfones can be activated on-line, or by
> calling a toll free number. However you should still be able to call 911
> on an unactivated phone.
>
>> Amazingly enough, mankind managed to crawl out of the muck and create
>> nearly all of human acheivement in the 1,999,970 years before the
>> invention
>> of the cellular telephone.
>
>
> One negative about the penetration of cell phones has been the wholesale
> removal of pay phones. It's a lot harder to get buy without one now.

"USA based, AT&T has announced plans to exit the shrinking
payphone business by the end of 2008. AT&T's Public
Communications unit has continued to experience significant
pressure from reduced payphone usage, primarily as a result
of the growth of mobile phones.

The company plans to phase out both public pay phones and
phones provided under contracts at government correctional
facilities through the end of next year. All customers will
receive advance notification of specific plans as well as
information on other potential providers and product options."

-- larry / dallas

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TOPIC: RodSpeed
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d0b1ba019129d06e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 3:27 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

KarlMarx_MiddleClass_Ipod_HipHop <kwokx2@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Please comment on Australian Crawl, the pop music band from the 1980's.

Wouldnt know who they were if they bit me on my bum.

> Also, where do you see copper and rare earth metals heading in 2008

I doubt there will be anything too dramatic except that the prices in USD terms
may well improve significantly if the USD continues to sag like it has done.

> I think we will see a major cash/credit crunch in 2008.

I dont. The sub prime fiasco certainly still has some way to run, but I dont see a major
cash/credit crunch, the fed has worked out how to handle those quite effectively.

> Maybe not so much in Pacific economies,

Yep, we've never been stupid enough to have our own sub prime fiasco.

The most we have seen is that some operations that chose to use mostly short
term funds for long term lending, have found the source of those funds has
dried up. Thats never been a very big percentage of the operations here tho.

> but we are global baby,

No we arent in that sense.

> so hold on.

I dont need to hold on. I'll do fine financially even if that does happen.

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TOPIC: Free Budget Kit
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/33da4fea2fac1827?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 3:29 pm
From: clams_casino

tropicalparadise2u@gmail.com wrote:

>Hi, saw your post and would like to respond.
>
>
>
>This message is not spam
>Cheers
>
>Scott
>
>
>
But everyone knows 97.897665756% of all newsgroup postings via google
groups are spam.

The percentage is even higher when posted via gmail..

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TOPIC: FreebiesPl.us Spam
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f5b514c7e5534464?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 3:35 pm
From: The Real Bev

clams_casino wrote:

> The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> FreebiesPl.us wrote:
>>
>>> Free Werner ToolLasso with Beltclip
>>> http://www.freebies...
>>
>> Now I see what others are complaining about. You click on this
>> asshole's link and you get half a dozen (maybe more) new tabs/windows
>> popping up offering crap. Bastard ought to be shot.
>
> Which is exactly why abuse@abuse.earthlink.net wants to hear every time
> that abusive spammer posts their spam.

How many times have you turned the bastard in and how much good has it
done? I just sent several, but I'm not holding my breath.

--
Cheers, Bev
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Don't tax me. Don't tax thee. Tax that man behind the tree.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 6:14 pm
From: clams_casino

The Real Bev wrote:

> clams_casino wrote:
>
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>>> FreebiesPl.us wrote:
>>>
>>>> Free Werner ToolLasso with Beltclip
>>>> http://www.freebies...
>>>
>>>
>>> Now I see what others are complaining about. You click on this
>>> asshole's link and you get half a dozen (maybe more) new
>>> tabs/windows popping up offering crap. Bastard ought to be shot.
>>
>>
>> Which is exactly why abuse@abuse.earthlink.net wants to hear every
>> time that abusive spammer posts their spam.
>
>
> How many times have you turned the bastard in and how much good has it
> done? I just sent several, but I'm not holding my breath.
>
Every time he's listed.

None.

I'm wondering if Bellsouth finally got tired of the Best Freebies
complaints. Haven't seen their spam for a while.

Now if only there was a way to rid the world of the China spam.

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TOPIC: Miss Manners: On collecting your tip money
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/93b726c0a278fbc9?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 4:20 pm
From: lenona321@yahoo.com

It's the last letter.

http://www.mercurynews.com/entertainmentheadlines/ci_7842577?nclick_check=1

DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am a bartender for private parties and I work
for a wage and tips. My company does not allow us to put out a tip
jar, and I think when they book the parties, they let the customer
believe that our gratuity is included in the cost of the
party.........

Lenona.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 6:04 pm
From: invalid@notreal.none (Beachcomber)

On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:20:37 -0800 (PST), lenona321@yahoo.com wrote:

>It's the last letter.
>
>http://www.mercurynews.com/entertainmentheadlines/ci_7842577?nclick_check=1
>
> DEAR MISS MANNERS: I am a bartender for private parties and I work
>for a wage and tips. My company does not allow us to put out a tip
>jar, and I think when they book the parties, they let the customer
>believe that our gratuity is included in the cost of the
>party.........
>
>

Well if the customer engaged the services of your company on that
basis... shouldn't you be getting your tip from your employer?

I know if I hired a bartender for my private party, I wouldn't want
you soliciting tips from my guests.

If you did a really great job... I would consider tipping you myself
discretely, and after the party.

Your company really needs to make clear what the terms are during the
sales presentation.

Beachcomber

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 6:26 pm
From: lenona321@yahoo.com

On Jan 1, 9:04 pm, inva...@notreal.none (Beachcomber) wrote:

> Well if the customer engaged the services of your company on that
> basis... shouldn't you be getting your tip from your employer?
>
> I know if I hired a bartender for my private party, I wouldn't want
> you soliciting tips from my guests.

That's pretty much what MM said, and she had more to say. Click on the
link.

Lenona.

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TOPIC: Sorry Troll Shane
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d9fd81e0b416f45c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 5:04 pm
From: "Huge Wad Of Spit"

Troll Shame Him
Bigot & liar, retarded clown
see the link
http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?lnk=nhpsfg&hl=en&q=smokers&qt_s=Search+for+a+group
Copy and paste up where is shows that this is a

====> , a discussion group about smoking.

Maybe it's also a place for you cheapskates to congregate too...Eh?

Open you mouth sucker
<(:>{0} <=====
PaaaaHHAUUCKtouuiii
Naw Swaller....see it ain't too hard to learn to read.

Here's some of that cheapskate stuff you wanted...
& I got some 3 day old cookies over there...
They wash down OK with some chew....
or pansy's can use last weeks coffee.

Hey Cheapskates, Everything's free Here..
Paradise found.... You Cheapskate's can
furnish your entire flat for free.

If you want to know why shame him was never
participating in school, see this fools idea of
a tramp stamp. Even McDonalds had to get him
outta there.
The girls all ran when he scrubbed the Johnnie walls.

http://tinyurl.com/37874x

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071229/ap_on_re_us/freecycle_
flourishes_1;_ylt=Aitqv3mDtQcD5YhgacuJlLUE1vAI

Freecycle turns trash to treasure By VICKI SMITH, Associated Press Writer
Sat Dec 29, 12:57 PM ET

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. - When Laura Gernell heard about a place where people
gave away perfectly good things to strangers - no money changing hands, no
questions asked - she figured it was too good to be true.

But husband Ronald had lost his job as a truck driver and she was
temporarily unemployed, at home in a rented, unfurnished apartment with her
infant son. With nothing to lose, she joined The Freecycle Network, a
Web-based community swap program, and asked if anyone had a sofa to spare.

"I wasn't looking to furnish my whole apartment," says the 32-year-old mom
from Marmet, just south of Charleston. "I was just looking for the basics,
just something to sit on."

Three people e-mailed with offers, and Gernell used the sofa from that day
in 2004 until last summer, when the springs broke. Today she runs West
Virginia's largest Freecycle group, 2,100 members strong and part of a
far-flung forum where people can find homes for things they no longer want.

"It just has completely floored me, the generosity of people," says
Gernell. "Especially in West Virginia because West Virginia is considered
one of the poorest states in the nation. But people are very generous. It's
amazing."

Freecycle is a global recycling phenomenon. Since it started in Arizona in
May 2003, it has grown to more than 4 million members in more than 4,100
cities, from Istanbul to Inwood. It boasts of keeping more than 300 million
tons of trash out of landfills every day and has inspired imitators.

There are, says founder and executive director Deron Beal, as many
heartwarming stories as there are groups: the American Indian tribe that
collected used prom dresses for girls in need; the Hurricane Katrina
evacuee who furnished a new home; the 98-year-old man who collects and
assembles bicycle parts, then gives what he's built to children; and the
woman in Austin, Texas, who collected items for an orphanage in Haiti, then
got FedEx to deliver the shipping container for free.

"It's just all sorts of countless acts of random kindness," says Beal, 40,
of Tucson, Ariz. "Whatever they want to make out of it, they really can."

Call them corny. Call them cliche. But Freecycle is built on principles
that work: One person can make a difference. Giving is better than
receiving. One person's trash is another's treasure. Commit an act of
kindness and it will be returned.

"It's not like a get-rich-quick scheme. You're not going to get everything
you want every time you want it," Gernell says. "The more offers you post,
the better outcomes you're going to have."

Beal began his experiment with an e-mail to 30 or 40 friends, inspired by
his Dumpster-diving adventures on behalf of homeless men trying to get back
on their feet. When his nonprofit group's warehouse was full, he realized
he needed a new way to unload.

His network grew to 800 members almost overnight, after a newspaper story
started spreading the word.

"From the get-go, it absolutely snowballed, and we're basically doubling in
size every year," Beal says. About 30,000 people join weekly, with the
single largest group in London, some 40,000-strong.

Though Freecycle caught on first in progressive cities like Portland, Ore.,
San Francisco and Madison, Wis., Beal says Chicago, St. Louis and New York
followed quickly. Then word of mouth took over, with people in the cities
telling people in small towns.

"It's very much a viral sort of growth and randomly beautiful," he says.

It's also self-policing, patrolled by 10,000 volunteer moderators who
ensure that items are being swapped legally, and that all are G-rated.
Playboy collections and porn tapes are a no-no.

"West Virginia was probably one of the slowest states overall for it to
really pick up," Beal says, citing lack of Internet access as a likely
reason.

Earlier this year, the Public Service Commission estimated that less than
35 percent of West Virginia households had broadband service. A June survey
by the Communications Workers of America measured the state's median
download speed at 1.12 megabits, one of the slowest rates in the country.

However, West Virginia has more than two dozen Freecycle groups, with
thousands of members offering a service Gernell says many people need.

"Even at Salvation Army and Goodwill, you still have to pay for things,"
she says "With the cost of living the way it is and gas prices the way they
are, the prices there are still way more than some people can afford."

Heather Edwards, a moderator of the Martinsburg-Berkeley County group in
West Virginia's Eastern Panhandle, finds great deals for her four children,
who range from 9 months to 15 years old.

"I got a humongous plastic playhouse for the kids," she says. "It costs
about $400 new."

Edwards, 35, often drives to Hagerstown, Md., to gather her Freecycle
finds.

"They have everything from Sunday coupons to refrigerators," she says.
"Yesterday it was a whole dining suite - a table and six chairs."

She urges novices to post more offers than requests, to avoid being greedy
and to use common sense in arranging pickups to ensure personal safety.

Andi Bassett, a Morgantown mom with five children ages 20 months to 10
years, says she'll soon be donating a batch of baby clothes.

"The most appealing thing to me is finding someone who wants my 'junk,'
that it's useful to them and they are thankful for my unwanted stuff," she
wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press. "And the same is true of other
people's 'junk' that is useful to me: I am thankful for it. Freecycle just
puts people together."

"You got em smokem."

Go see what you can get for free Shame Him

"Shawn Hirn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-C3DCA5.18135401012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

>
> Once again, you make brash and incorrect assumptions. I am not in a
> competition with anyone, including Steve, nor do I care who is first to
> post on this, a discussion group about smoking.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 6:51 pm
From: Parulsham

On Jan 1, 8:04 pm, "Huge Wad Of Spit"
<WannaSwal...@CopenhagenSpat.Com> wrote:
> Troll Shame Him
> Bigot & liar, retarded clown
> see the linkhttp://groups.google.com/groups/dir?lnk=nhpsfg&hl=en&q=smokers&qt_s=S...
> Copy and paste up where is shows that this is a
>
> ====> , a discussion group about smoking.
>
> Maybe it's also a place for you cheapskates to congregate too...Eh?
>
> Open you mouth sucker
> <(:>{0} <=====
> PaaaaHHAUUCKtouuiii
> Naw Swaller....see it ain't too hard to learn to read.
>
> Here's some of that cheapskate stuff you wanted...
> & I got some 3 day old cookies over there...
> They wash down OK with some chew....
> or pansy's can use last weeks coffee.
>
> Hey Cheapskates, Everything's free Here..
> Paradise found.... You Cheapskate's can
> furnish your entire flat for free.
>
> If you want to know why shame him was never
> participating in school, see this fools idea of
> a tramp stamp. Even McDonalds had to get him
> outta there.
> The girls all ran when he scrubbed the Johnnie walls.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/37874x
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071229/ap_on_re_us/freecycle_
> flourishes_1;_ylt=Aitqv3mDtQcD5YhgacuJlLUE1vAI
>
> Freecycle turns trash to treasure By VICKI SMITH, Associated Press Writer
> Sat Dec 29, 12:57 PM ET
>
> MORGANTOWN, W.Va. - When Laura Gernell heard about a place where people
> gave away perfectly good things to strangers - no money changing hands, no
> questions asked - she figured it was too good to be true.
>
> But husband Ronald had lost his job as a truck driver and she was
> temporarily unemployed, at home in a rented, unfurnished apartment with her
> infant son. With nothing to lose, she joined The Freecycle Network, a
> Web-based community swap program, and asked if anyone had a sofa to spare.
>
> "I wasn't looking to furnish my whole apartment," says the 32-year-old mom
> from Marmet, just south of Charleston. "I was just looking for the basics,
> just something to sit on."
>
> Three people e-mailed with offers, and Gernell used the sofa from that day
> in 2004 until last summer, when the springs broke. Today she runs West
> Virginia's largest Freecycle group, 2,100 members strong and part of a
> far-flung forum where people can find homes for things they no longer want.
>
> "It just has completely floored me, the generosity of people," says
> Gernell. "Especially in West Virginia because West Virginia is considered
> one of the poorest states in the nation. But people are very generous. It's
> amazing."
>
> Freecycle is a global recycling phenomenon. Since it started in Arizona in
> May 2003, it has grown to more than 4 million members in more than 4,100
> cities, from Istanbul to Inwood. It boasts of keeping more than 300 million
> tons of trash out of landfills every day and has inspired imitators.
>
> There are, says founder and executive director Deron Beal, as many
> heartwarming stories as there are groups: the American Indian tribe that
> collected used prom dresses for girls in need; the Hurricane Katrina
> evacuee who furnished a new home; the 98-year-old man who collects and
> assembles bicycle parts, then gives what he's built to children; and the
> woman in Austin, Texas, who collected items for an orphanage in Haiti, then
> got FedEx to deliver the shipping container for free.
>
> "It's just all sorts of countless acts of random kindness," says Beal, 40,
> of Tucson, Ariz. "Whatever they want to make out of it, they really can."
>
> Call them corny. Call them cliche. But Freecycle is built on principles
> that work: One person can make a difference. Giving is better than
> receiving. One person's trash is another's treasure. Commit an act of
> kindness and it will be returned.
>
> "It's not like a get-rich-quick scheme. You're not going to get everything
> you want every time you want it," Gernell says. "The more offers you post,
> the better outcomes you're going to have."
>
> Beal began his experiment with an e-mail to 30 or 40 friends, inspired by
> his Dumpster-diving adventures on behalf of homeless men trying to get back
> on their feet. When his nonprofit group's warehouse was full, he realized
> he needed a new way to unload.
>
> His network grew to 800 members almost overnight, after a newspaper story
> started spreading the word.
>
> "From the get-go, it absolutely snowballed, and we're basically doubling in
> size every year," Beal says. About 30,000 people join weekly, with the
> single largest group in London, some 40,000-strong.
>
> Though Freecycle caught on first in progressive cities like Portland, Ore.,
> San Francisco and Madison, Wis., Beal says Chicago, St. Louis and New York
> followed quickly. Then word of mouth took over, with people in the cities
> telling people in small towns.
>
> "It's very much a viral sort of growth and randomly beautiful," he says.
>
> It's also self-policing, patrolled by 10,000 volunteer moderators who
> ensure that items are being swapped legally, and that all are G-rated.
> Playboy collections and porn tapes are a no-no.
>
> "West Virginia was probably one of the slowest states overall for it to
> really pick up," Beal says, citing lack of Internet access as a likely
> reason.
>
> Earlier this year, the Public Service Commission estimated that less than
> 35 percent of West Virginia households had broadband service. A June survey
> by the Communications Workers of America measured the state's median
> download speed at 1.12 megabits, one of the slowest rates in the country.
>
> However, West Virginia has more than two dozen Freecycle groups, with
> thousands of members offering a service Gernell says many people need.
>
> "Even at Salvation Army and Goodwill, you still have to pay for things,"
> she says "With the cost of living the way it is and gas prices the way they
> are, the prices there are still way more than some people can afford."
>
> Heather Edwards, a moderator of the Martinsburg-Berkeley County group in
> West Virginia's Eastern Panhandle, finds great deals for her four children,
> who range from 9 months to 15 years old.
>
> "I got a humongous plastic playhouse for the kids," she says. "It costs
> about $400 new."
>
> Edwards, 35, often drives to Hagerstown, Md., to gather her Freecycle
> finds.
>
> "They have everything from Sunday coupons to refrigerators," she says.
> "Yesterday it was a whole dining suite - a table and six chairs."
>
> She urges novices to post more offers than requests, to avoid being greedy
> and to use common sense in arranging pickups to ensure personal safety.
>
> Andi Bassett, a Morgantown mom with five children ages 20 months to 10
> years, says she'll soon be donating a batch of baby clothes.
>
> "The most appealing thing to me is finding someone who wants my 'junk,'
> that it's useful to them and they are thankful for my unwanted stuff," she
> wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press. "And the same is true of other
> people's 'junk' that is useful to me: I am thankful for it. Freecycle just
> puts people together."
>
> "You got em smokem."
>
> Go see what you can get for free Shame Him
>
> "Shawn Hirn" <s...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:srhi-C3DCA5.18135401012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Once again, you make brash and incorrect assumptions. I am not in a
> > competition with anyone, including Steve, nor do I care who is first to
> > post on this, a discussion group about smoking.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks
http://parulsharma.richblogs.com/

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TOPIC: purchasing affordable health insurance
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 5:08 pm
From: "Evelyn C. Leeper"

someone@somedomain.invalid.com wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote
>
>> Which part of 'the new college I am moving to does not offer health
>> insurance
>> to international students like me' are you having a problem with ?
>
> I am moving from college A to college B. Presently, I have health
> insurance through College A, but when I move to college B it will not
> carry over as it was purchased as a group policy for college A students
> only by college A. College B does not have any such health insurance
> policies for its students, but requires its international students to
> have health insurance. If I want to keep the same insurance which college
> A provides me when I move to college B I have to get it as an individual
> it is expensive about 300-400 per month for premium.
>
> The problem is in finding a health insurance from a legitimate company
> for an affordable price(less than 100) if possible which treats claims
> properly so that I have health insurance for myself and to satisfy
> college B's transfer requirements.

See if your new school can give you a list of insurance providers. Even
if they don't provide insurance, they may be able to point you in the
right direction.

Alternatively, ask other international students at the new school for
suggestions.

--
Evelyn C. Leeper
I believe I found the missing link between animal
and civilized man. It is us. -Konrad Lorenz

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TOPIC: How Do Work Boots Protect You
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 5:41 pm
From: " Frank"

> I did manage to get some welding slag between a couple of toes when
> welding over my head while up a ladder in summer when wearing the
> thongs and that was a complete yawn, no need for any ER.
>

I guess there is no need for you to use a helmet either, just like the way
they do it in some parts of Asia and Mexico.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 6:12 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Frank <noreplay@nothome.net> wrote:

>> I did manage to get some welding slag between a couple of toes when
>> welding over my head while up a ladder in summer when wearing the
>> thongs and that was a complete yawn, no need for any ER.

> I guess there is no need for you to use a helmet either, just like the way they do it in some parts of Asia and
> Mexico.

Yep, thats another complete wank with my single level house and me the only one doing the work.

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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 8:24 pm
From: Logan Shaw

JL wrote:
>> I've had lots more fun with the Linux stuff than with usoft. I have
>> three computers at home, and I'd like to not have to purchase several
>> copies of whatever usoft puts out. You can get the Linux for free if
>> you are geeky, for modest prices in distributions if you are less
>> geeky.

> The Ubuntu or Kubuntu versions of Linux are absolutely free. And they
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> installing Windows. The only hard part in using Linux used to be adding
> new software to it, but Ubuntu/Kubuntu has a package installer to do
> this automatically. You don't even need to learn the command line
> stuff, but of course it helps.

I'm using Ubuntu to post this, and I like it a lot (I'm a pretty big fan
of Unix and Linux in general), but there is one area where you are going
to, if my experience is any guide, have endless headaches: ATI video
cards. I have one, and after numerous attempts that have involved arcane
stuff like extracting archives and manually tweaking shell scripts so the
right set of files get installed, I *still* don't have accelerated video,
and my monitor also won't go into power-saving mode ever (unless I type
"xset dpms force suspend").

This all might have something to do with the fact that I installed the
amd64 (64-bit) variant, so I'm a tiny bit out of the mainstream. But
really, it's still kind of sad.

Having said all that, overall the distribution basically works great.
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upgrades really are as simple as a few mouse clicks, and the system
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have worked without issue. And installing extra software is easy when
you use Synaptic Package Manager. The interface is a bit goofy since
the distinction between installed software and available software is
too subtle, but once you get used to that, it works great.

- Logan

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TOPIC: Paying Down Debt...Working at Home
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/76e65c908fd6d77e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 8:51 pm
From: Donna

clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote in news:noeej.25623
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> maddy wrote:
>
>>Do you want to work at home to make money..there are a lot of scams
>>out there.... i am in debt 37K ...check out my website at
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Yours included?
>

I already work at home and I'm not in debt. Go spam the meat newsgroup.

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 9:35 pm
From: maddy

On Jan 1, 10:51 pm, Donna <do...@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote:
> clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote in news:noeej.25623
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> > maddy wrote:
>
> >>Do you want to work at home to make money..there are a lot of scams
> >>out there.... i am in debt 37K ...check out my website at
>
> > Yours included?
>
> I already work at home and I'm not in debt. Go spam the meat newsgroup.
>
> --
> ~Donnahttp://www.frugalsewing.com
> Reduce, reuse, recycle, re-create.

i am so sorry that i am in debt..and you are not..why are you on this
site anyway...

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 1 2008 9:32 pm
From: maddy

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bookmark this...its a way for me to be inspired..possibly you can do
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