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TOPIC: Why we don't need Mexicans
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 9:26 am
From: qwest602000
On Jan 18, 8:03 pm, Paul Knudsen <pknud...@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:20:43 -0800 (PST), Ted <tedor...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone still support the government in Washington, DC?
>
> Yeah. The big agricultural and industrial companies that want cheap
> labor.
don't worry
the mexicans will get us out of a depression
just give them drivers lic. and more medicaid.
tht will solve the problem
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 10:25 am
From: Snowbound
In article <4rsap397bq494e83lnirqjp72llsa8o3m7@4ax.com>,
Paul Knudsen <pknudsen@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:57:18 -0600, Snowbound
> <loosebowels@ixnay.invalid> wrote:
>
> >I think you are mistaking ancient Rome for the Pol Pot regime, Castro's
> >Cuba or Stalin's USSR. Or perhaps you wish to compare ancient Rome with
> >these regimes?
>
> Well, the Romans weren't known for their tender hearts either. They
> invented crucifixion, you know.
Right, such a lock they had on cruelty. Crucifixion is so much worse
than impalement, which it replaced. In case you weren't aware,
impalement does not use sharpened poles. They are tapered, but dull.
They are inserted into the anus and slowly worked up the abdomen and
even occasionally out through the throat and mouth. The victims can
actually live for weeks like that, properly cared for. It was once
common to see whole fields of impalement victims rotting in the sun,
still alive. Men, women and children.
And son-of-a-gun, which country invented as a sanctified medical
procedure, prefrontal lobotomy, performed on helpless, confined,
restrained, unanesthetized "mentally ill" patients by sticking an ice
pick past their eyeball into their brain and wiggling it around so the
"patients" became little more than drooling vegetables?
Yes sir, those romans were real bastards alright.
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 9:40 am
From: Snowbound
In article <479578c1$0$10992$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> So the DJIA started dropping about 10 months before Bush was elected
Likely in anticipation of his faux victory. That is certainly how it
seemed at the time to this investor. The ambient filthy political circus
surrounding the campaigns-- mostly generated by the Republican party and
its seemingly endless supply of inbred grunts-- and the "election"
itself gave rise to a deep-seated pessimism among shrewd investors.
Even now, this time of bottomless debt issues, most investors
acknowledge that it is attitude that most determines which way the
market goes. Degenerate Republican smears furthered the damage,
intentionally spreading FUD throughout the market. Given the gains of
the past, no investor was willing to part with his holdings, except for
the fear liberally dispersed through the nation by the Republican
campaign.
This is indeed how the Republicans won in 2000, and the only way they
can advance their real agenda in the future. Their form of "change" is
the wanton destruction of all that was built in the past.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 10:00 am
From: Snowbound
In article <479578c1$0$10992$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> For your theory (that fear of Bush was the motivator for the drop in
> the stock market) to hold water, the market would've had to factor a
> 9.7% drop into the DJIA and a stunning 45.1% drop into the NASDAQ,
> just to account for Bush. According to your theory, not only was the
> market extremely afraid of Bush
Hardly a "theory". It's called "history". The Republicans had been
working hard to deliberately create that atmosphere since the 90s'
Democratic takeover. Their increasingly loud and shrill cries that the
sky is falling were accompanied by massive inside fundraising and
political crimes (such as district redraws) that make New York's and
Chicago's political machines look prissy in comparison. This absolutely
belies their intent to wrest power by creating fear across the country,
which admittedly has become quite pussified.
But what do you expect the market to do under those conditions? No
doubt, the Republicans considered market losses a necessary sacrifice,
but they also probably thought it would be temporary, since once "the
adults" came to power, their scrimp-and-save policies would make it
stronger.
Well, they (and you) were wrong then, and you both are just as wrong
now. Except that *now*, the facts and the historians can prove you wrong.
The problem is, that there may be no fix that won't take successive
generations to accomplish. The damage the neocons have done is so
extensive, the cuts so deep, this nation has for the last 8 years been
hemorrhaging everything that once made it of value, including official
adherence to its own Constitution.
Markets thrive under political stability, not under despotic, criminally
incompetent regimes. The United States, once the greatest nation in the
world, has taken away it shining star of political stability and
replaced it with the myriad tarnished voices of intolerance, racial
hatred, indiscriminate violence, and unjust force. No market can work
freely under these conditions, and investors know it. They sensed it
'way back in '99, too. It's called chickens coming home to roost.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 11:55 am
From: Spinner
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:40:10 -0600, Snowbound wrote:
> In article <479578c1$0$10992$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> So the DJIA started dropping about 10 months before Bush was elected
>
> Likely in anticipation of his faux victory. That is certainly how it
> seemed at the time to this investor. The ambient filthy political circus
> surrounding the campaigns-- mostly generated by the Republican party and
> its seemingly endless supply of inbred grunts-- and the "election"
> itself gave rise to a deep-seated pessimism among shrewd investors.
I don't have time to look into this but I'll throw it out there for
your consideration: Could it be that the DJIA drop towards the end of
Clinton's term was the result of Republican interference in his
presidency via their abuse of the impeachment process?
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 12:24 pm
From: clams_casino
Spinner wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:40:10 -0600, Snowbound wrote:
>
>
>
>>In article <479578c1$0$10992$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
>> Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>So the DJIA started dropping about 10 months before Bush was elected
>>>
>>>
>>Likely in anticipation of his faux victory. That is certainly how it
>>seemed at the time to this investor. The ambient filthy political circus
>>surrounding the campaigns-- mostly generated by the Republican party and
>>its seemingly endless supply of inbred grunts-- and the "election"
>>itself gave rise to a deep-seated pessimism among shrewd investors.
>>
>>
>
>I don't have time to look into this but I'll throw it out there for
>your consideration: Could it be that the DJIA drop towards the end of
>Clinton's term was the result of Republican interference in his
>presidency via their abuse of the impeachment process?
>
>
It's generally accepted that the stock market tends to reflect 6-18
months ahead, not what's already happened.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 12:49 pm
From: Bert Hyman
PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com (clams_casino) wrote in
news:Rhslj.25638$3b7.8092@newsfe23.lga:
> It's generally accepted that the stock market tends to reflect 6-18
> months ahead, not what's already happened.
That must explain the wild gyrations the markets go through whenever
economic reports summarizing data from the previous month or previous
quarter are released.
--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 1:11 pm
From: clams_casino
Bert Hyman wrote:
>PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com (clams_casino) wrote in
>news:Rhslj.25638$3b7.8092@newsfe23.lga:
>
>
>
>>It's generally accepted that the stock market tends to reflect 6-18
>>months ahead, not what's already happened.
>>
>>
>
>That must explain the wild gyrations the markets go through whenever
>economic reports summarizing data from the previous month or previous
>quarter are released.
>
>
>
Are you suggesting you invest on what's already happened?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 9:44 am
From: Dave
On Jan 22, 10:02 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com>
wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> >We love candles
>
> Back again to spam your sham blog?
Hello Friendly Welcomer for Frugal-Living,
Yes, you are always there, guard dog at the gates. Odd that you have
no reaction to dozens of messages that appear here about cheap
sneakers from China.
I read Frugal-Living daily, and believe that when I have something to
say that fits with the forum content, I can post it, just as you do.
Thanks Clams,
Dave
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 11:51 am
From: clams_casino
Dave wrote:
> when I have something to
>say that fits with the forum content, I can post it, just as you do.
>Thanks Clams,
>
>Dave
>
>
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 1:10 pm
From: Dave
On Jan 22, 12:51 pm, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com>
wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> > when I have something to
> >say that fits with the forum content, I can post it, just as you do.
> >Thanks Clams,
>
> >Dave
>
> You, best freebies and Cheapo Groovo ...........
No disrespect intended to you, but I can see your frustration. I'm
reading it now while I am on the road, using Google (albeit not the
best usenet reader, to say the least) and the top ten posts that I see
on the forum are spam, with one exception (mine). You may disagree
because I use one line for my sig, but it is still the only post in
the group of ten threads at the top of Frugal-Llving that has
something to do with a frugal lifestyle. I'd like to see the
discussion grow.
Dave
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 9:52 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"
>> I assume you're kidding. Can you imagine how many millions of
>> pre-ground "stock" lenses would be needed to every possible
>> combination of lens size & shape, PD, prescription, etc? There
>> probably aren't that many atoms in the universe! <grin>
> He's not kidding. That's how all those "eyeglasses in a hour" places
> do it. They stock an assortment of ready made lenses. The "blank"
> lenses are large circles. They simply cut them to fit the frames you
> picked out. The size, shape, and PD are irrelevent, as they cut from
> the large blank which has it's optical center in the center.
I could see this if all you were correcting for were single refractive
errors. But lenses also require astigmatism correction. Not to mention the
different types of lens materials, coatings, etc -- and bifocals, trifocals,
progressives, etc.
Furthermore, it would make no sense to stock all these variations, simply
because of the capital investment involved. A store can't afford to keep
rarely needed prescriptions in stock.
Finally... The lens has to be "ground" at some point, regardless of whether
it's in China or the US. Are you suggesting that it would take an automatic
machine more than a few minutes to do this -- while the technician was doing
something else?
Nope. I still don't buy it.
== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 10:22 am
From: John Smith
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> ...
> Please share your prescription with us.
>
>
Two pair cost me about $70.00 USD to order (shipping stays the the same,
$4.95 USD, no matter how many pairs you order!)
Even if he is fibbing, maybe it will work out. At least at that price,
I won't be disappointed longer than a couple of hours. <LOL>
Regards,
JS
== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 10:51 am
From: salty@dog.com
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:52:07 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I assume you're kidding. Can you imagine how many millions of
>>> pre-ground "stock" lenses would be needed to every possible
>>> combination of lens size & shape, PD, prescription, etc? There
>>> probably aren't that many atoms in the universe! <grin>
>
>> He's not kidding. That's how all those "eyeglasses in a hour" places
>> do it. They stock an assortment of ready made lenses. The "blank"
>> lenses are large circles. They simply cut them to fit the frames you
>> picked out. The size, shape, and PD are irrelevent, as they cut from
>> the large blank which has it's optical center in the center.
>
>I could see this if all you were correcting for were single refractive
>errors. But lenses also require astigmatism correction. Not to mention the
>different types of lens materials, coatings, etc -- and bifocals, trifocals,
>progressives, etc.
>
>Furthermore, it would make no sense to stock all these variations, simply
>because of the capital investment involved. A store can't afford to keep
>rarely needed prescriptions in stock.
>
>Finally... The lens has to be "ground" at some point, regardless of whether
>it's in China or the US. Are you suggesting that it would take an automatic
>machine more than a few minutes to do this -- while the technician was doing
>something else?
>
>Nope. I still don't buy it.
>
>
You can argue all you like, but the fact remains, there are stores in
just about every town of any consequence and most large malls that do
exactly what I said. One example is Lenscrafters, which has over 800
locations. I am simply astounded to find someone who isn't aware of
them, as they advertise this like mad on radio, TV and in print.
== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 10:48 am
From: Goedjn
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:04:16 +0000 (UTC),
vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>Eyeglass repair webs say they use gold solder.
>
>I could almost make the temple from wire (run the screw through a
>loop). If only I knew where to find "antique bronze" wire that stiff
>and thick.
>
Fence wire, and modeling paint.
== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 11:14 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"
<salty@dog.com> wrote in message
news:82ecp3tmljs6imckimssgimmbrnmttoqtq@4ax.com...
> You can argue all you like, but the fact remains, there are stores in
> just about every town of any consequence and most large malls that
> do exactly what I said. One example is Lenscrafters, which has over
> 800 locations. I am simply astounded to find someone who isn't aware
> of them, as they advertise this like mad on radio, TV and in print.
Of course I'm aware of LensCrafters -- I've bought glasses from them. I
simply don't believe that they have tens of thousands of lenses that have
been pre-ground to every conceivable prescription. It's not an economically
efficient way to run a business.
I just remembered something... You can request these companies to grind the
frontal radius of the lens to match the radius of your previous lens. This
wouldn't be practical if the lenses were pre-ground.
I'll back off on this issue for the time being. The next time I'm near
LensCrafters or a similar company, I'll ask.
== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 11:25 am
From: salty@dog.com
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:14:07 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
><salty@dog.com> wrote in message
>news:82ecp3tmljs6imckimssgimmbrnmttoqtq@4ax.com...
>
>> You can argue all you like, but the fact remains, there are stores in
>> just about every town of any consequence and most large malls that
>> do exactly what I said. One example is Lenscrafters, which has over
>> 800 locations. I am simply astounded to find someone who isn't aware
>> of them, as they advertise this like mad on radio, TV and in print.
>
>Of course I'm aware of LensCrafters -- I've bought glasses from them. I
>simply don't believe that they have tens of thousands of lenses that have
>been pre-ground to every conceivable prescription. It's not an economically
>efficient way to run a business.
>
Apparently, it IS an economically efficient way to run a business.
They have been hugely succesful. For openers, do you have any idea
what mass produced molded plastic lenses cost a place like
Lenscrafters? A dollar each? Less? The markups in the optometry biz
are astronomical. Stocking enough lenses to cover 90% of the people
who walk through the door isn't nearly the expense you think it is.
Especialyy when they can stock shallow and the inventory system
automatically reorders as they are drawn from stock. The inventory
even knows which ones move faster, and adjusts accordingly.
>I just remembered something... You can request these companies to grind the
>frontal radius of the lens to match the radius of your previous lens. This
>wouldn't be practical if the lenses were pre-ground.
>
Yeah, so for the small minority iof cases where a customer needs
something special, they make a phone call to the main warehouse and
tell the customer that they have to come back tomorrow. Overnighting a
pair of lenses is no problem when you are making $300-500 profit on a
pair of glasses.
== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 11:31 am
From: John Smith
salty@dog.com wrote:
> ...
> You can argue all you like, but the fact remains, there are stores in
> just about every town of any consequence and most large malls that do
> exactly what I said. One example is Lenscrafters, which has over 800
> locations. I am simply astounded to find someone who isn't aware of
> them, as they advertise this like mad on radio, TV and in print.
>
>
I can understand how plastic lens are quick and no big problem.
What amazes me is that it seems no longer to get the glass lens--but,
these are being offered less and less often ...
Regards,
JS
== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 11:32 am
From: "JoeSpareBedroom"
<salty@dog.com> wrote in message
news:d6gcp35sfg1vrebqmd20r5jq6iudu976g8@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:14:07 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
> <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>><salty@dog.com> wrote in message
>>news:82ecp3tmljs6imckimssgimmbrnmttoqtq@4ax.com...
>>
>>> You can argue all you like, but the fact remains, there are stores in
>>> just about every town of any consequence and most large malls that
>>> do exactly what I said. One example is Lenscrafters, which has over
>>> 800 locations. I am simply astounded to find someone who isn't aware
>>> of them, as they advertise this like mad on radio, TV and in print.
>>
>>Of course I'm aware of LensCrafters -- I've bought glasses from them. I
>>simply don't believe that they have tens of thousands of lenses that have
>>been pre-ground to every conceivable prescription. It's not an
>>economically
>>efficient way to run a business.
>>
>
> Apparently, it IS an economically efficient way to run a business.
> They have been hugely succesful. For openers, do you have any idea
> what mass produced molded plastic lenses cost a place like
> Lenscrafters? A dollar each? Less? The markups in the optometry biz
> are astronomical. Stocking enough lenses to cover 90% of the people
> who walk through the door isn't nearly the expense you think it is.
> Especialyy when they can stock shallow and the inventory system
> automatically reorders as they are drawn from stock. The inventory
> even knows which ones move faster, and adjusts accordingly.
>
>
>>I just remembered something... You can request these companies to grind
>>the
>>frontal radius of the lens to match the radius of your previous lens. This
>>wouldn't be practical if the lenses were pre-ground.
>>
>
> Yeah, so for the small minority iof cases where a customer needs
> something special, they make a phone call to the main warehouse and
> tell the customer that they have to come back tomorrow. Overnighting a
> pair of lenses is no problem when you are making $300-500 profit on a
> pair of glasses.
>
>
You might be right about all this. Who provided you with this information
about stocking all or most of the the blanks?
== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 11:34 am
From: "JoeSpareBedroom"
"John Smith" <assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fn5g9u$dte$2@news.albasani.net...
> salty@dog.com wrote:
>
>> ...
>> You can argue all you like, but the fact remains, there are stores in
>> just about every town of any consequence and most large malls that do
>> exactly what I said. One example is Lenscrafters, which has over 800
>> locations. I am simply astounded to find someone who isn't aware of
>> them, as they advertise this like mad on radio, TV and in print.
>>
>>
>
> I can understand how plastic lens are quick and no big problem.
>
> What amazes me is that it seems no longer to get the glass lens--but,
> these are being offered less and less often ...
>
> Regards,
> JS
"offered"? You mean, you ask for them and you're told they no longer sell
them? Or, you don't ask and they don't mention glass as an option?
== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 11:40 am
From: John Smith
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> ...
> "offered"? You mean, you ask for them and you're told they no longer sell
> them? Or, you don't ask and they don't mention glass as an option?
>
>
True, I just don't see them offered. At the price I have been paying
for plastic--I am scared to!
Regards,
JS
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 10:22 am
From: Cindy Hamilton
On Jan 22, 9:32 am, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.txt
> And which sentence, specifically, gives any government agency the power to
> stimulate or retard the economy?
Looks like this one:
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties,
Imposts and
Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
general
Welfare of the United States;
If they can collect taxes to provide for the general welfare of the
united
states, it is reasonable that they can rebate taxes for that purpose.
Not very specific, I'll grant you, but if the government limited
itself to
what is exactly stated in the Constitution, we'd have a country that
operated along 18th Century lines. No, thank you.
Cindy Hamilton
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 10:43 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@hotmail.com> wrote
> Stormin Mormon <cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote
>> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.txt
>> And which sentence, specifically, gives any government
>> agency the power to stimulate or retard the economy?
> Looks like this one:
Nope.
> The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes,
> Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for
> the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;
> If they can collect taxes to provide for the general welfare of the united
> states, it is reasonable that they can rebate taxes for that purpose.
Yes, but the main way the economy is stimulated and retarded is with the fed controlling interest rates.
> Not very specific, I'll grant you, but if the government limited itself
> to what is exactly stated in the Constitution, we'd have a country
> that operated along 18th Century lines. No, thank you.
Precisely.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 22 2008 11:27 am
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