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TOPIC: Replica Tissot, Fake Tissot Watches At www-aaa-replica-watch.com
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7f25cc8260377d19?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 6:08 am
From: sales005@21replicawatch.com


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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:14:03 -0400, Cape Cod Bob
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>Non stick pans have a definite place in t he kitchen - crepe pans for
>example.

There is no reason to prefer non-stick for crepes. You might note that there are
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>However, Non stick woks do not.

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== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 7:19 am
From: "JoeSpareBedroom"


"pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote in message
news:25gat35tpdnv0132dr0hg4ggn2kbl7uu3o@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:14:03 -0400, Cape Cod Bob
> <spambobmethelis@spamcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Non stick pans have a definite place in t he kitchen - crepe pans for
>>example.
>
> There is no reason to prefer non-stick for crepes. You might note that
> there are
> no non-stick commercial crepe makers. All I do on my commercial crepe
> makers is
> use clarified butter, and there is never the slightest sticking or
> build-up.
>
>>However, Non stick woks do not.
>
> I would point out that no less a chef than Ming Tsai often uses a
> non-stick wok.
>
> -- Larry


Well, that settles that. A statistic. One.

Does he just use it, or does he also talk about the wok?


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 7:50 am
From: Sheldon


pltrgyst wrote:
> Cape Cod Bob wrote:
> >Non stick pans have a definite place in t he kitchen - crepe pans for
> >example.
>
> There is no reason to prefer non-stick for crepes. You might note that there are
> no non-stick commercial crepe makers. All I do on my commercial crepe makers is
> use clarified butter, and there is never the slightest sticking or build-up.
>
> >However, Non stick woks do not.
>
> I would point out that no less a chef than Ming Tsai often uses a non-stick wok.

FoodTV personalities cook whatever and with whatever their sponsors
(the people who pay them) mandate. Professional kitchens are nothing
like FoodTV cartoon kitchens.

== 4 of 5 ==
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From: Peter A


In article <25gat35tpdnv0132dr0hg4ggn2kbl7uu3o@4ax.com>,
pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org says...
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:14:03 -0400, Cape Cod Bob
> <spambobmethelis@spamcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> >Non stick pans have a definite place in t he kitchen - crepe pans for
> >example.
>
> There is no reason to prefer non-stick for crepes. You might note that there are
> no non-stick commercial crepe makers. All I do on my commercial crepe makers is
> use clarified butter, and there is never the slightest sticking or build-up.
>
> >However, Non stick woks do not.
>
> I would point out that no less a chef than Ming Tsai often uses a non-stick wok.
>
> -- Larry
>

Of course there are no commercial non-stick crepe makers. Commercial
equipment must be durable - in a restaurant a crepe maker will be used
dozens of times a day, at home once a week maybe. For the home chef who
is not an expert cook and wants to minimize fat use, non-stick has
definite advantages.

I wouldn't go holding up Ming Tsai as some sort of authority. He strikes
me as one of those gadfly cooking personalities, not a real chef. Still,
I could imagine valid uses for a nonstick wok as long as you don't do
any wok cooking in it.

--
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== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 8:23 am
From: Kenneth


On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:10:43 -0400, pltrgyst
<pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:

>
>I would point out that no less a chef than Ming Tsai often uses a non-stick wok.
>
>-- Larry

Hi Larry,

That may well be true, but it tells us little because there
may be issues of sponsorship.

All the best,
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whipped the face of another White victim, 72-year-old Marjorie
Llewellyn of Newnan, Alabama and briefly kidnapping her at gunpoint
during an armed robbery and attempted carjacking earlier in the day.

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predators underscore a racial reality that the mass media in America
hides from the public: the tens of millions of White victims of Black
criminality in America. Over the past four decades since the "civil
rights" movement, crime figures show that millions of crimes have been
committed by Blacks and other non-White predators against White
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epidemic Black crime in America. ( See The Race War of Black Against
White by Paul Sheehan from the Sydney Morning Herald)

http://www.davidduke.com/race-information-library/the-race-war-of-black-against-white_75.html

Black crime rates against White people are many times greater than
White crimes against Blacks. You wouldn't know it by reading or
listening to America's mass media. Saturation national and
international news coverage is given to the very few White cross-race
crimes against Blacks such as the James Byrd dragging case in Texas,
as well as the media-hyped Tawana Brawley case in New Jersey and the
alleged rape of a Black stripper by White lacrosse team members at
Duke University. Both of those latter cases, after months of front-
page, sensationalized coverage decrying "White racism," turned out to
be complete hoaxes.

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Whites in contrast to White crimes against Blacks. Per capita Black
cross racial crimes of 50 or even 100 percent greater than Whites
would be bad enough, but the Black crime rates against Whites are
actually many times greater than White on Black crimes. Blacks are an
estimated 57 (that is 5,700 percent!) times more likely to commit
violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times (13,600
percent!) more likely to commit robbery. (see the color of crime
report published by the New Century Foundation - an analysis of crime
figures taken from official Justice Department crime reports)
http://www.nc-f.org/

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race crime is the incredible rate of crime by Black males against
White women. According to U.S. Justice Department figures over 34,460
White women are sexually assaulted or raped by Black men each year,
and most authorities believe that the actual rape figures are at least
twice the reported number. In perhaps the most shocking crime figure
of all is the number of White rapes against Black women.
Statistically, it is 0! Because they have fewer than 10 cases
nationally.

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2002, , Black predators are at least 22 times (2,200 percent) more
likely to murder White women than the reverse. In regard to gang
attacks including the horrible specter of gang rape, the figures are
literally off the charts, with at least a 200 times (that's 20,000
percent!) greater chance of Blacks committing gang assaults and that
includes both White men and women victims!

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numbers should be a national scandal. Yet, the facts go largely
unreported. How many times have the public seen media portrayals of
historical or contemporary racial discrimination against Black people.
But, the question is, "In the terms of the most important of human
rights, how does the discrimination of racially segregated water
fountains or neighborhoods or schools compare with the racially born
crimes of black slaughter and physical attacks levied against
thousands of White people each year?

America has been treated to thousands of media articles for instance
about the frontier-style vigilante justice of lynchings, events which
have occurred at least since the time of the American Revolution when
they began on the Virginia frontier. Lynching got its name from
Colonel Charles Lynch of Bedford County. He defended his community
against outlaws and against Tories who were treacherously aiding the
British. The Lynch organizations not only captured suspicious
characters but gave them trials. With the frontier moving west and
often with not a single law enforcement officer for hundreds of miles,
vigilante committees often hunted down criminals and meted out
punishment which was called "lynching."

Lynching also became prominent again in the face of terrible outrages
against innocent women and children during the Black Reconstruction
period in the South and was mostly employed there against suspected
Black rapists and murderers, but lynching was often practiced against
Whites in the South, and quite often against criminal Whites in the
North and West.

Of course, everyone today naturally condemns the practice of lynching,
as well they should. Mob violence cannot be defended. But, if one
wants to characterize lynching as a racial crime because lynchings
were more commonly employed against Blacks in the South than against
Whites, a few facts must be taken into account. If one considers
disproportionate rates of Black lynching in the South, one must also
consider the Black disproportionate crime rate.

1) Many scholars who have studied the history of lynching in the
United States make it clear that lynching wasn't simply a racial
crime, but one primarily exacted on criminals whether they were Black
or White. Consider the fact that even today, Blacks commit more
murders than Whites in the United States, and Blacks are many times
more likely to commit interracial race crimes such as rape and murder.
As pointed out by federal crimes studies, a Black man is 57 times more
likely to commit a violent crime against Whites than vice-versa,
thousands of times more likely to rape a White women than Whites are
likely to rape Black women, and 22 times more likely to murder a White
woman than vice versa. There is no reason not to suspect that similar
extremely high rates of Black criminality have existed historically.
Most of the lynchings up until the War Between the States were against
Whites and Significant numbers of Whites in the late 19th and early
20th Century were also lynched. So, considering the rates of crime,
historical lynching has always been proportionate to Black crime rates
and not one simply based on racist motives.

2) One must also understand that historical lynching was most often
applied to those guilty of rape, robbery or murder. Of course, there
were cases where innocent men were lynched, but in contrast, the
thousands of White women and other White victims of Black crime today
are guilty of no crime. Lynching cannot be excused in any way, but
most of those men lynched were undoubtedly guilty of vicious and
horrible crimes against the innocent, especially against women and
children. Those were the kinds of heinous crimes that really drove the
extra-legal executions.

The U.S. Senate recently issued an apology for not historically taking
a stand against lynching, something that has been condemned because
for part of its history Blacks disproportionately suffered from it.

If that is deemed appropriate, why does the U.S. Senate stand mute
against the brutal rape of over 34,000 White women per year by Blacks.
In just one year the number of White women raped by Black males is 6
times the total number of all lynchings during the entire history of
the United States. (Estimated to be about 5,000 including both Whites
and Blacks)

If racial disparity is an issue, then the Black rate of murder and
rape against White men and women has a far greater racial disparity
than that of White and Black lynchings. Remember, according to the
U.S. Justice Department official figures, 34,000 White women were
sexually assaulted compared to less than ten Black women assaulted by
White men.

One should also consider that the victims of lynching were men; only a
small number were women (estimates are between 75 and 100 women
lynched in the history of the United States), and most of those were
lynched for crimes committed along with their male criminal partners.
Compare the small number of women who suffered lynching compared to
the 34,000 women who suffer from Black rape every year. In addition,
700 innocent White women are murdered each and every year by Blacks.
Where is outrage about this racial crime?

If one wants to talk about moral outrages, the historical lynching of
men who were overwhelmingly criminal and guilty of horrendous crimes,
is quite minor compared to the mass murder and rape of the innocent
going on literally as you read these lines. While you are reading this
article another White woman will suffer rape at the hands of a Black
man. (One White woman every 9 minutes if you accept the conventional
wisdom that less than half of rapes are reported).

Next time someone comes up and tells you about the horrors of Jim Crow
and segregation, how it was so terribly awful that African Americans,
as well as White Americans lived in their own neighborhoods, went to
their own schools, and even drank from their own water fountains,
think about that supposed horror compared to horrendous violations of
the most important civil right of all, the right to live and not
suffer grievous personal assault or even death.

The fact of the matter is that Blacks as well as the Whites of America
were a lot safer in the days of "evil segregation" than we are now.
When America was a nation living by the values of White heritage,
culture, standards and civilization, most Black kids were born
legitimate in two parent families, they were not being shot down by
each other on the steps of their homes, millions were not enslaved by
drugs, half of them were not in prison or in some part of the criminal
justice system. In a real sense, for countless millions of African
Americans, the most important civil and human rights of all have been
lost by the so-called victories of the civil rights movement.

For Whites the change has been just as dramatic. Millions of our
people are now victims of Black robbery, rape, and murder. Millions of
White boys and girls whose parents can't afford private or parochial
education, suffer in mostly Black public schools filled with sexual
and physical intimidation, filthy language and dismal standards, drugs
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Millions more of our elderly are practically home prisoners in their
own neighborhoods. Let the media and government tell them about the
supposed civil rights and blessings of forced integration. Millions
more of hardworking, better-qualified White, middle-class people
suffer from the racial discrimination of so-called affirmative action.
Constant government and media concern about "civil rights" is the
greatest con job in history, because so-called civil rights has taken
away practically every conceivable civil right of the American people,
including the most important one of all, the right to live and the
right not to be physically abused, or raped, or robbed or hurt.

Let the government and media drone on about Black "civil rights" to
the grieving parents of Eve Carson and Lauren Burk, two bright and
beautiful White women who were so full of love and life but who now
have lost the most precious civil right of all, the right to life
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They were murdered not just by the predators on our streets, but by a
media and government establishment who stripped away their right to
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history, but have hidden the terrible crimes going on against us, our
heritage, freedom and survival, right before our eyes.

Lauren and Eva were murdered by the politicians who sold us out for
the bloc votes and for the approval of media that celebrates the
coming extinction of our people, faith, heritage and nation. They have
also sold their souls and ours to the Jewish money men of American
politics who make them pledge their subservience to Israel as a quote,
"Jewish State for the Jewish people," while they would not even dare
to invoke the term "White people" except in denigration and apology.

Eva and Lauren no longer have breath in their bodies. To the last
moments of their lives they probably never for an instant understood
why they lost their lives. They probably never knew that our people
were in a desperate struggle for their existence, and they probably
never dreamed they could be a casualty in that war.

Eva and Lauren are gone now. They cannot speak to us except by what
they left behind. But, they cannot be forgotten. We who are aware of
the crisis facing our people will remember them. We will remember them
as they were, beautiful expressions of humanity made unique and
special by their own efforts and by the imprint of our people's DNA
spiral.

All of us at davidduke.com are dedicated to the preservation of what
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> "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote in misc.consumers.frugal-living:
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