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TOPIC: cheap source of protein and fat
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/84a01fbc7ff89ff3?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 12:16 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Cheapo Groovo <ccsj@nospam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com wrote
>> niklanei@gmail.com wrote

>>> With the rising cost of food i would suggest peanuts as a good source of fat and protein.

>> Nope, there is MUCH cheaper protein and fat available.

>>> Provided you don't have an allergic reaction towards
>>> this legume it's a great source of fat and protein

>> Pity about the price of it.

>>> and even fiber.

>> There's plenty of much better sources of fibre.

>>> It might be a bit too high in fat and the protein content
>>> maybe a bit low for athletic/big people but a jar of peanut
>>> butter or a decent size bag of peanuts packs quite a punch
>>> in terms of the daily required amount of fat and protein.

>> Pity about the price of it.

> Are you gonna tell us what it is?

What what is ?

> You so smart, tell us all!

Just how many of you are there between those ears, spammer ?

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TOPIC: Riding at night: a strategy for survival?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c5e128afa3962906?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 12:45 pm
From: Jon Bendtsen

ComandanteBanana wrote:
> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that strategy
> to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are here)...
>
> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight... And he
> ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a vest with
> blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting on the cell

He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).

See:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp

http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html

http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html

JonB

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 1:27 pm
From: ComandanteBanana

On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
> ComandanteBanana wrote:
> > Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that strategy
> > to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are here)...
>
> > Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight... And he
> > ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a vest with
> > blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting on the cell
>
> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>
> See:
> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
> http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
> http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>
> JonB

All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you need
is that blinking vest. I guess.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 10:11 pm
From: Jon Bendtsen

ComandanteBanana wrote:
> On May 1, 3:45 pm, Jon Bendtsen <no...@example.com> wrote:
>> ComandanteBanana wrote:
>>> Nothing new about it: The little furry mammals developed that strategy
>>> to survive among the dinosaurs (which is why we are here)...
>>> Anyway, now my next door neighbor wants to ride at midnight... And he
>>> ain't one of those crazy bums on a Huffy. He even bought a vest with
>>> blinking lights (DUI drivers and SUV drivers chatting on the cell
>> He could get a dynamo hub and some lights. The best dynamo
>> hub should be SON from Schmidt, but it's rather expensive.
>> The front and rear light could be from Busch + Muller, but
>> schmidt has a real nice LED light comming real soon now(tm).
>>
>> See:
>>

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt.asp
>>

http://www.bumm.de/index-e.html
>>

http://www.nabendynamo.de/english/index.html
>>
>> JonB
>
> All those lights are nice so you can see, but to be seen all you need
> is that blinking vest. I guess.

Probably other people can see all those lights as well.

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TOPIC: Heard of metal salvage yards? Next thing will be plastic salvage yards
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/89853505ff48cb34?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 12:48 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Sev <servdemon@aol.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Cash_is_king,and_RodSpeed, don't_forget_it <kwo...@hotmail.com> wrote

>>> Plastics are made from oil. Nobody is scavenging plastics just yet.

>> Wrong.

>>> If you are an entrepreneur, now is your chance to become a plastics exporter.

>> Been going on for a long time now.

> I wonder at what price point for oil will thieves start ripping plastic plumbing out of houses...

Wont happen, essentially because there is a hell of a lot more plastic a hell of a lot easier to get at.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 5:43 pm
From: Sev

On May 1, 3:48�pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sev <servde...@aol.com> wrote
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Cash_is_king,and_RodSpeed, don't_forget_it <kwo...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >>> Plastics are made from oil. Nobody is scavenging plastics just yet.
> >> Wrong.
> >>> If you are an entrepreneur, now is your chance to become a plastics exporter.
> >> Been going on for a long time now.
> > I wonder at what price point for oil will thieves start ripping plastic plumbing out of houses...
>
> Wont happen, essentially because there is a hell of a lot more plastic a hell of a lot easier to get at.

yeah- I was actually ah jus kidding. Quite a bit of activity with
the metals, though. NYTimes ran story last week of leaded roofs being
ripped off old churches in UK. I guess at least the old car batteries
will get dragged out of the woods, etc.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 5:58 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Sev <servdemon@aol.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Sev <servde...@aol.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Cash_is_king,and_RodSpeed, don't_forget_it <kwo...@hotmail.com> wrote

>>>>> Plastics are made from oil. Nobody is scavenging plastics just yet.

>>>> Wrong.

>>>>> If you are an entrepreneur, now is your chance to become a plastics exporter.

>>>> Been going on for a long time now.

>>> I wonder at what price point for oil will thieves start ripping plastic plumbing out of houses...

>> Wont happen, essentially because there is a hell of a lot more
>> plastic a hell of a lot easier to get at.

> yeah- I was actually ah jus kidding.

That was obvious.

> Quite a bit of activity with the metals, though.

Not really.

> NYTimes ran story last week of leaded roofs being ripped off old churches in UK.

Fuck all old churches there have had that happen to them.

Because the verger beats the culprits to death with those things they whack on the doors with.

> I guess at least the old car batteries will get dragged out of the woods, etc.

Nope, there isnt enough lead in them to bother.

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TOPIC: Good Deal on AM/FM Radio programmable recorder
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/84545142b594ff69?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 1:29 pm
From: mwmiller314@gmail.com

On Apr 29, 10:29 pm, Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
> mwmiller...@gmail.com wrote in news:484965c4-b385-486b-86bc-de8c6b229037
> @y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Is there somewhere one can find a good deal on an AM/FM radio recorder
> > that is programmable to record a segment of broadcast of radio from on
> > specfic time to another for each day during a week, a recurring daily
> > broadcast from monday to friday? I've heard such a device exists, but
> > I cannot remember the name of it or any source from which to buy it.
>
> > Any helpful input appreciated,
> > Matt
>
> Matt,
> Recording radio shows is so last century.
> First, see if the show is archived at the radio station's
> web site or the network's web site. Many are.
> 2nd: See if there is a pod cast of the show. No, you don't
> need an iPod to listen to podcasts.
> If all else fails: use your computer to record the show.
> Use Task Scheduler to kick off and audio recording program.
> Of course you need to wire your radio into the Line In Jack
> of your computer.

where does one get the cable for wiring radio to line in jack of of
the computer?

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 1:42 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

mwmiller314@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 29, 10:29 pm, Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
>> mwmiller...@gmail.com wrote in
>> news:484965c4-b385-486b-86bc-de8c6b229037
>> @y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Is there somewhere one can find a good deal on an AM/FM radio
>>> recorder that is programmable to record a segment of broadcast of
>>> radio from on specfic time to another for each day during a week, a
>>> recurring daily broadcast from monday to friday? I've heard such a
>>> device exists, but I cannot remember the name of it or any source
>>> from which to buy it.
>>
>>> Any helpful input appreciated,
>>> Matt
>>
>> Matt,
>> Recording radio shows is so last century.
>> First, see if the show is archived at the radio station's
>> web site or the network's web site. Many are.
>> 2nd: See if there is a pod cast of the show. No, you don't
>> need an iPod to listen to podcasts.
>> If all else fails: use your computer to record the show.
>> Use Task Scheduler to kick off and audio recording program.
>> Of course you need to wire your radio into the Line In Jack
>> of your computer.
>
> where does one get the cable for wiring radio to line in jack of of
> the computer?

Anywhere that sells audio cables. Nothing special about it, you just need
the correct jack on each end and its the most common cable around.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 4:41 pm
From: Gordon

mwmiller314@gmail.com wrote in news:caabc1c4-6f16-492c-97d1-badda93c6622
@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> On Apr 29, 10:29 pm, Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
>> mwmiller...@gmail.com wrote in news:484965c4-b385-486b-86bc-
de8c6b229037
>> @y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Is there somewhere one can find a good deal on an AM/FM radio
recorder
>> > that is programmable to record a segment of broadcast of radio from
on
>> > specfic time to another for each day during a week, a recurring
daily
>> > broadcast from monday to friday? I've heard such a device exists,
but
>> > I cannot remember the name of it or any source from which to buy
it.
>>
>> > Any helpful input appreciated,
>> > Matt
>>
>> Matt,
>> Recording radio shows is so last century.
>> First, see if the show is archived at the radio station's
>> web site or the network's web site. Many are.
>> 2nd: See if there is a pod cast of the show. No, you don't
>> need an iPod to listen to podcasts.
>> If all else fails: use your computer to record the show.
>> Use Task Scheduler to kick off and audio recording program.
>> Of course you need to wire your radio into the Line In Jack
>> of your computer.
>
> where does one get the cable for wiring radio to line in jack of of
> the computer?

Radio Shack, if you want to pay too much.
Many computer shops that specialize in computer media systems
will have them. And then, here in Hillsboro, we have a shop
dedicated to selling computer cables.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 10:09 pm
From: Anthony Matonak

mwmiller314@gmail.com wrote:
...
> where does one get the cable for wiring radio to line in jack of of
> the computer?

Anywhere you find electronics, sound equipment or computers.

You can also do a google search...
http://www.google.com/products?q=mini+stereo+audio+cable+%22male+to+male%22&btnG=Search+Products&show=dd&scoring=p

You can also buy a USB AM/FM radio called 'Radioshark 2'
by Griffin Technologies for $40 on Amazon.

Anthony

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TOPIC: Gas Prices
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0ee1641a39c5a013?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 5:33 pm
From: lancejnelson@gmail.com

I just wanted to throw this topic out there. I know it's on
everyones' mind because we all depend on it. Gas prices just keep on
going up. Is there anything that can be done about it. Will the
government ever step in and do something? Gas is at about $3.50 where
I live and it's startin to hurt. I know that there has got to be a
solution to this problem. A few things to do are: 1. Try to drive
less. 2. Think about purchasing a hybrid vehicle. 3. Try to carpool
whenever possible. I have a blog on this subject, and there is some
good information on there. If you are interested, I recommend taking
a look. http://beatfueldependance.blogspot.com/.

I think if we come together in a concerted effort to fight this
problem, we can figure it out, and save all of us from going to the
poor house.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 5:57 am
From: Dave

On Thu, 1 May 2008 17:33:42 -0700 (PDT)
lancejnelson@gmail.com wrote:

> I just wanted to throw this topic out there. I know it's on
> everyones' mind because we all depend on it. Gas prices just keep on
> going up. Is there anything that can be done about it. Will the
> government ever step in and do something?

What would you expect the government to do about a finite resource that took millions of years to make?

> Gas is at about $3.50 where
> I live and it's startin to hurt. I know that there has got to be a
> solution to this problem. A few things to do are: 1. Try to drive
> less.

Great idea. But unless you quit your job, it's not a real practical solution for most folks. But then, quitting your job isn't real practical, either. :)

> 2. Think about purchasing a hybrid vehicle.

If gas was $7/gallon, it would still take many years for that investment to pay for itself. Hybrids are not that much more fuel-efficient than regular automobiles.

> 3. Try to carpool
> whenever possible.

OK for most folks, that would be never, as far as "whenever possible" goes. If you are single and your roommate happens to work the exact same hours in the exact same building that you do, maybe. Other than that, just not a practical suggestion.

> I have a blog on this subject, and there is some
> good information on there.

It would have to be better than the non-solutions you posted publicly to usenet, or why bother? -Dave

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 5:54 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

lancejnelson@gmail.com wrote:

> I just wanted to throw this topic out there.

Well you cant.

> I know it's on everyones' mind because we all depend on it.

Not everyone does.

> Gas prices just keep on going up. Is there anything that can be done about it.

There is nothing that can be done about it except pay the higher prices.

> Will the government ever step in and do something?

There is nothing that any govt can do about the increasing cost of crude oil.

> Gas is at about $3.50 where I live and it's startin to hurt.

Then you should have got a clue and got a fuel efficient vehicle
and not waste your time travelling long distances every day.

> I know that there has got to be a solution to this problem.

Nope, there isnt.

> A few things to do are: 1. Try to drive less.

Those of us with a clue have been doing that for a long time now.

> 2. Think about purchasing a hybrid vehicle.

No thanks, the best non hybrid vehicles get better mileage than they do.

> 3. Try to carpool whenever possible.

No thanks.

> I have a blog on this subject, and there is some good information on there.

Nope, not a shred.

> If you are interested, I recommend taking a look.
> http://beatfueldependance.blogspot.com/.

Nothing there about beating fuel dependance.

> I think if we come together in a concerted effort
> to fight this problem, we can figure it out,

Plenty of us had it figured out decades ago.

And we didnt need to 'come together' to do that.

> and save all of us from going to the poor house.

Only the fools will ever end up there.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 5:59 pm
From: Seerialmom

On May 1, 5:57 am, Dave <no...@nohow.not> wrote:
> On Thu, 1 May 2008 17:33:42 -0700 (PDT)
>
> lancejnel...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I just wanted to throw this topic out there. I know it's on
> > everyones' mind because we all depend on it. Gas prices just keep on
> > going up. Is there anything that can be done about it. Will the
> > government ever step in and do something?
>
> What would you expect the government to do about a finite resource that took millions of years to make?
>
> > Gas is at about $3.50 where
> > I live and it's startin to hurt. I know that there has got to be a
> > solution to this problem. A few things to do are: 1. Try to drive
> > less.
>
> Great idea. But unless you quit your job, it's not a real practical solution for most folks. But then, quitting your job isn't real practical, either. :)
>
> > 2. Think about purchasing a hybrid vehicle.
>
> If gas was $7/gallon, it would still take many years for that investment to pay for itself. Hybrids are not that much more fuel-efficient than regular automobiles.
>
> > 3. Try to carpool
> > whenever possible.
>
> OK for most folks, that would be never, as far as "whenever possible" goes. If you are single and your roommate happens to work the exact same hours in the exact same building that you do, maybe. Other than that, just not a practical suggestion.
>
> > I have a blog on this subject, and there is some
> > good information on there.
>
> It would have to be better than the non-solutions you posted publicly to usenet, or why bother? -Dave

I second all your comments, Dave.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 5:59 pm
From: William Souden

Rod Speed wrote:
> lancejnelson@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I just wanted to throw this topic out there.
>
> Well you cant.
>
>> I know it's on everyones' mind because we all depend on it.
>
> Not everyone does.
>
>> Gas prices just keep on going up. Is there anything that can be done about it.
>
> There is nothing that can be done about it except pay the higher prices.
>
>> Will the government ever step in and do something?
>
> There is nothing that any govt can do about the increasing cost of crude oil.
>
>> Gas is at about $3.50 where I live and it's startin to hurt.
>
> Then you should have got a clue and got a fuel efficient vehicle
> and not waste your time travelling long distances every day.
>
>> I know that there has got to be a solution to this problem.
>
> Nope, there isnt.
>
>> A few things to do are: 1. Try to drive less.
>
> Those of us with a clue have been doing that for a long time now.
>
>> 2. Think about purchasing a hybrid vehicle.
>
> No thanks, the best non hybrid vehicles get better mileage than they do.
>
>> 3. Try to carpool whenever possible.
>
> No thanks.
>
>> I have a blog on this subject, and there is some good information on there.
>
> Nope, not a shred.
>
>> If you are interested, I recommend taking a look.
>> http://beatfueldependance.blogspot.com/.
>
> Nothing there about beating fuel dependance.
>
>> I think if we come together in a concerted effort
>> to fight this problem, we can figure it out,
>
> Plenty of us had it figured out decades ago.
>
> And we didnt need to 'come together' to do that.
>
>> and save all of us from going to the poor house.
>
> Only the fools will ever end up there.
>
>
Were it not for welfare you would be in the poor house.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, May 1 2008 6:42 pm
From: "The Henchman"

<lancejnelson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2118a003-e5f2-4b90-896f-16537ec443c1@q27g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>
> I think if we come together in a concerted effort to fight this
> problem, we can figure it out, and save all of us from going to the
> poor house.

I don't seem to have problems with high gas prices. It was too cheap for
too long. Too bad you didn;t have more foresight.

My only concern about higher gas prices is stock market effect, and the Dow
got back into 13 000+ territory today and the TSX has been hovering around
14 000+. Since things are humming along fine there is no need to worry
about gas prices then.

Everyone knew gas prices were going to go up. Too bad you didn't prepare
for it.

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