Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 13 topics

Wednesday, July 23, 2008

25 new messages in 13 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Weight Loss and Nutrition Advice
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bd1ebc7ec86506e7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 11:20 am
From: trimitdown

There's nothing to join here. It's just plain good advice.

http://trim-it-down.com

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TOPIC: Dieting on a budget
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7cbeb26b885dc908?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 12:41 pm
From: Al

Somehow it seems like eating less should cost less, but I always end
up spending more when I'm dieting. I just read this article:

http://www.livestrong.com/article/4096-need-diet-programs/

It talks about how diets can fit every budget. But what are your tips
for losing weight on a tight budget?

Thanks!

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 1:02 pm
From: Nicodemus

Al <aebaxter@gmail.com> wrote in news:c1d0c70f-08e7-4c77-9d86-cbfc70a54789
@h17g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

> Somehow it seems like eating less should cost less, but I always end
> up spending more when I'm dieting. I just read this article:
>
> http://www.livestrong.com/article/4096-need-diet-programs/
>
> It talks about how diets can fit every budget. But what are your tips
> for losing weight on a tight budget?
>
> Thanks!
>

Eat less and wonder about your soul, it is The Universe playing tricks with
your stomach in that mean time the most frugal answer is to protect your
vote, that is if you live in a society that embraces democracy

FreePeople make the best decisions
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 1:33 pm
From: timeOday

Al wrote:
> Somehow it seems like eating less should cost less, but I always end
> up spending more when I'm dieting.

I agree. Starch is cheap calories but they don't satisfy for long. Fat
is pretty cheap calories, if you don't mind having a heart attack later.
I would like to hear about some cheap sources of lean protein.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 3:38 pm
From: clams_casino

Al wrote:

>Somehow it seems like eating less should cost less, but I always end
>up spending more when I'm dieting. I just read this article:
>
>http://www.livestrong.com/article/4096-need-diet-programs/
>
>It talks about how diets can fit every budget. But what are your tips
>for losing weight on a tight budget?
>
>Thanks!
>
>

Spend less on starches / sugary snacks & get more exercise.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 3:45 pm
From: clams_casino

timeOday wrote:

>Al wrote:
>
>
>>Somehow it seems like eating less should cost less, but I always end
>>up spending more when I'm dieting.
>>
>>
>
>I agree. Starch is cheap calories but they don't satisfy for long. Fat
>is pretty cheap calories, if you don't mind having a heart attack later.
> I would like to hear about some cheap sources of lean protein.
>
>

London broil (boneless beef shoulder) was on sale here last week for
$1.99/lb - about as lean a piece of meat as you'll get. Great slow
grilled with a teriyaki marinade, even on the third day in a steak
sandwich with a touch of BBQ sauce.

Excellent if sliced very thin, across the grain.

Split chicken breast is on sale here at $0.99/lb this week (3 lbs or more).

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TOPIC: US Citizen Wants To Become An Illegal Alien (More Benefits)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/75da19aa847fa944?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 1:05 pm
From: timeOday

tmclone@searchmachine.com wrote:
> On Jul 23, 1:54 pm, hp...@lycos.com wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 4:36 am, s...@nospam.org (Way Back Jack) wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> The Honorable Tom Harkin
>>> 731 Hart Senate Office Building
>>> Phone (202) 224 3254
>>> Washington DC , 20510
>>> Dear Senator Harkin,
>>> As a native Iowan and excellent customer of the Internal Revenue
>>> Service, I
>>> am writing to ask for your assistance. I have contacted the Department
>>> of
>>> Homeland Security in an effort to determine the process for becoming
>>> an
>>> illegal alien and they referred me to you.
>>> My primary reason for wishing to change my status from U.S. Citizen to
>>> illegal alien stems from the bill which was recently passed by the
>>> Senate
>>> and for which you voted. If my understanding of this bill's provisions
>>> is
>>> accurate, as an illegal alien who has been in the United States for
>>> five
>>> years, all I need to do to become a citizen is to pay a $2,000 fine
>>> and
>>> income taxes for three of the last five years. I know a good deal when
>>> I see
>>> one and I am anxious to get the process started before everyone
>>> figures it
>>> out.
>>> Simply put, those of us who have been here legally have had to pay
>>> taxes
>>> every year so I'm excited about the prospect of avoiding two years of
>>> taxes
>>> in return for paying a $2,000 fine. Is there any way that I can apply
>>> to be
>>> illegal retroactively? This would yield an excellent result for me and
>>> my
>>> family because we paid heavy taxes in 2004 and 2005.
>>> Additionally, as an illegal alien I could begin using the local
>>> emergency
>>> room as my primary health care provider. Once I have stopped paying
>>> premiums
>>> for medical insurance, my accountant figures I could save almost
>>> $10,000 a
>>> year.
>>> Another benefit in gaining illegal status would be that my daughter
>>> would
>>> receive preferential treatment relative to her law school
>>> applications, as
>>> well as 'in-state' tuition rates for many colleges throughout the
>>> United
>>> States for my son.
>>> Lastly, I understand that illegal status would relieve me of the
>>> burden of
>>> renewing my driver's license and making those burdensome car insurance
>>> premiums. This is very important to me given that I still have college
>>> age
>>> children driving my car.
>>> If you would provide me with an outline of the process to become
>>> illegal
>>> (retroactively if possible) and copies of the necessary forms, I would
>>> be
>>> most appreciative. Thank you for your assistance.
>>> Your Loyal Constituent,
>>> Get your Forms (NOW)!! Call your Internal Revenue Service
>>> 1-800-289-1040.
>> And they wonder why folks want to "take a dump" on Washington, DC.
>>
>
> Word. When my wallet was stolen and I had to go to the SS office to
> get a
> new card, I was absolutely dumbstruck by what I saw in the waiting
> room. I
> was the only person speaking English and the only woman there with no
> children. My Spanish is a bit rusty (haven't lived abroad since the
> 1980s),
> but I was able to figure out that most of the people waiting were
> never
> employed, possibly undocumented, but were receiving all sorts of
> bennies.
> It was apparent that most of them spoke no English at all. Note that I
> live
> in rural upstate NY, not a city. Outside of the SS office I have never
> heard
> anyone speaking anything other than English. That includes people
> working at
> local gas station quik e marts, stores, and the Thruway rest stop. Of
> course, that includes only people who work, not those who stay home
> and pump
> out babies as their chosen "profession". Once again, "your tax dollars
> at
> work".
>

In a sense, yes. Americans are not reproducing enough to maintain the
population demographics that our economy has always relied on (though
they are unsustainable in the long run - the population can't grow
forever). Increasingly, we want to have careers instead of kids and
spend all the income on ourselves. But that doesn't work. We need a
next generation to mow our lawns, harvest our crops, flip hamburgers,
and support us in old age. Social security reduced the personal
incentive to have kids as a retirement investment, for better or worse.
So here we are, outsourcing childbearing and childrearing to people who
will do it cheaper, just like picking fruit or laying tile. From an
evolutionary perspective it's surprising.

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TOPIC: The 20 Healthiest Foods for Under $1
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e7ad251f9a434d38?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 1:48 pm
From: "Stephanie"

Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
> <http://www.divinecaroline.com/articles/printer_friendly/22145/52070>

Thoughts

- Oatmeal is a high glycemic carb. If you are not into that sort of thing,
steel cut is your savior. It stays in your gut keeping you from hunger
longer too. Crock pot it over night. Freeze the rest. Microwave frozen with
some water and it is as good as new.

- Around here eggs are even cheaper at the bulk store. But watch the store
flier, every now and again they practically GIVE them away. If you are not
into the yolk, make deviled eggs with hummus. Yum! Homemade hummus is
ding-dang cheap also.

Well overall I cannot necessarily agree with this list of "healthy" food.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 2:26 pm
From: max

In article
<63c737c1-14a8-46d9-8b81-cf9652b7128b@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 23, 9:28 am, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > James wrote:
> > > On Jul 22, 11:35 am, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > >> <http://www.divinecaroline.com/articles/printer_friendly/22145/52070>
> >
> > >> --
> > >> Evelyn C. Leeper
> > >> Just because everything is different doesn't mean
> > >> anything has changed. -Irene Peter
> >
> > > Several are no no for gout. Egg consumption has to be limited.
> > > Broccoli intake must be monitored if you're on blood thinner. Peanuts
> > > are banned on airlines.
> >
> > Silly me, I figured that people here would realize that if you have a
> > medical condition that says one of these foods isn't healthy, you would
> > know not to eat it.
> >
> > Seriously, *of course* not all the foods are healthy for everyone. And
> > vegans won't eat eggs, vegetarians won't eat sardines, and Mormons won't
> > drink coffee. But the list is to provide suggestions that intelligent
> > people can decide whether to use or not.
> >
> > Sheesh.
> >
> > --
> > Evelyn C. Leeper
> > Just because everything is different doesn't mean
> > anything has changed. -Irene Peter
>
> You cannot assume intelligent people don't make stupid decisions.
> Eating too much of some of what's on the list can be like eating
> poison.
>
> Here's an article on what can happen when people do what's supposed to
> be "good for you".
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7521137.stm
>
> The dangers of too much detox

it takes a special kind of idiot to poison one's self with water,
however, it's quite rare. Most of them drown in the shower.

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their signatures contact information, and perhaps a joke or quotation.

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TOPIC: Food costs
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 1:51 pm
From: "Stephanie"

durie@clear.net.nz wrote:
> Need a shopping list and go without your partner/husband as he will
> always add extra items and then be surprised at the cost at the
> checkout!

Let your husband go to the store! GASP! Not.

Food shopping takes some time for this family. Fliers are my godsend. Meat
and produce are based on the flier, and the freezer stocked accordingly.

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TOPIC: -google_groups- What does it cost to feed yourself these days?
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 1:53 pm
From: "Stephanie"

James wrote:
> On Jul 19, 11:09 am, George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> James wrote:
>>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
>>> person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8
>>> including tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to
>>> make any meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2.
>>> Fresh veges even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>>
>> Can I suggest that if "making a meal" consists of opening cans of
>> stuff you might want to consider actually making stuff. You can make
>> a huge pot of real soup for not a lot of money that will provide
>> multiple meals.
>
> You need to also suggest buying a big fridge to keep the soup from
> turning. One thing people don't realize is that making more than one
> serving is not economical if the uneaten portion spoils. I buy
> spaghett sauce and half of it usually get moldy in the fridge because
> I only use half for one meal. That's probably why they started
> selling one serving size bottles.
>

Freezers are the best. We have numerous muffin tins, not for making boat
loads of muffins, but to freeze things in small portions. Stock, soup,
pureed veggies to sneak into the casserols so the kids dont know it, steel
cut oats, cooked ground beef. You can always take out more than one muffin
cup worth up to as much as you need.

> BTW I'm not looking for suggestions to lower cost. I'm more
> interested in what other people spend in a $ figure per person.

About $100/wk for a family of 4.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 1:55 pm
From: "Stephanie"

h wrote:
> "James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5993fd35-74a2-4808-8565-fbd57d936311@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
>> person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8
>> including tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to
>> make any meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh
>> veges even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>>
> Fresh veggies from the back yard and 1/2 lb of boneless ribeye comes
> to exactly $2.99.

Ribeye for $2.99!?! Oh my goodness. You can't get that here. Did you count
the cost of planting the back yard veggies in there?

> Maybe add a few cents for spices and olive oil, too. A can of tuna with
> some mayo and backyard veg makes for an under
> $1.50 lunch. Breakfast is 2 eggs and a slice of ham for less than
> $1.00. Meals are much cheaper when you make them from scratch.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 1:59 pm
From: "Stephanie"

catalpa wrote:
> "James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5993fd35-74a2-4808-8565-fbd57d936311@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
>> person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8
>> including tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to
>> make any meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh
>> veges even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>>
>
> You can't make a meal for less than $5 ???
>
> Perdue chicken leg quarters were on sale for $0.59 a lb. I bought 5
> lbs, cooked 3 lbs and froze 2 lbs. The 3 lbs of chicken lasts for 3
> dinners. Add a vegetable, pasta or potatoes and dessert and each meal
> is less than $1.50.

And when boneless breast in on sale for $1.87/lb, holy cow do we live in
heaven! I cannot even eat one whole one, so that goes some distance.

Pasta is dirt cheap too.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 2:59 pm
From: "h"

"Stephanie" <haaa@noway.net> wrote in message
news:LI2dnZrDEY1qBBrVnZ2dnUVZ_jmdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>h wrote:
>> "James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5993fd35-74a2-4808-8565-fbd57d936311@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
>>> person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8
>>> including tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to
>>> make any meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh
>>> veges even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>>>
>> Fresh veggies from the back yard and 1/2 lb of boneless ribeye comes
>> to exactly $2.99.
>
>
> Ribeye for $2.99!?! Oh my goodness. You can't get that here. Did you count
> the cost of planting the back yard veggies in there?
>

It's $5.98 lb for a 15-18 pound piece. We cut that into 1½ inch thick
steaks, or about one lb per "slice". Once "slice" feeds the two of us for a
meal and I usually have enough of mine left over for a bleu cheese chop
salad the next day. What do you pay? Since we grow all the veggies from
seeds we spend about $10 a year for veggies, so it's less than 1 cent a
meal.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 3:02 pm
From: "h"

"Stephanie" <haaa@noway.net> wrote in message
news:Gp6dnUgM9LtVBxrVnZ2dnUVZ_rzinZ2d@comcast.com...
> catalpa wrote:
>> "James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5993fd35-74a2-4808-8565-fbd57d936311@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
>>> person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8
>>> including tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to
>>> make any meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh
>>> veges even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>>>
>>
>> You can't make a meal for less than $5 ???
>>
>> Perdue chicken leg quarters were on sale for $0.59 a lb. I bought 5
>> lbs, cooked 3 lbs and froze 2 lbs. The 3 lbs of chicken lasts for 3
>> dinners. Add a vegetable, pasta or potatoes and dessert and each meal
>> is less than $1.50.
>
>
> And when boneless breast in on sale for $1.87/lb, holy cow do we live in
> heaven! I cannot even eat one whole one, so that goes some distance.
>

Our local market usually runs boneless breasts for $1.89 lb. on Wednesdays,
but last week they had them at $1.29. I spent $60 and it took quite a while
to pack it all up into the freezer!

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TOPIC: Frugal ways
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 2:04 pm
From: "Stephanie"

Gina wrote:
> Curious how others make ends meet?
>
> I reuse all I can. Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
> tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
> napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). Use rags.
>
>
> I recycle for the environment.

- No fancy cleaning stuff. A can of comet and a spray bottle of vinegar and
water.

- Shop meat and produce from the stores' fliers. Buy LOTS of the loss
leaders and freeze them.

- I actually maintain a price book sicne I cannot remember anything about
the price of stuff.

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TOPIC: One last cleaning before home remodel
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 2:03 pm
From: steverossiter@sbcglobal.net

Hi,

We will be remodeling our home soon and eventually replacing the
berber rug that is in place now. We actually wanted to do the remodel
sooner and as a result have been pretty neglectful of the rug thinking
it would be replaced sooner. It is in pretty rough shape (just normal
traffic dirt and grime, no oil-based stains) and certain areas might
need a scrubber machine.

I thought we could rent a scrubber at Lowes and then schedule a
professional to do the hot water extraction just afterwards.

If this sounds workable can anyone recommend a moderately priced
general purpose spot remover and shampoo for a rug destined for the
trash in about four months.

I was going to call on Stanley Steamer for the steam cleaning but
some of the comments make me worry that perhaps the care won't be
taken to get as much water back out of the rug as possible which could
be a problem with berber.

It is a small house (3 bed, hallway, and family room) with about 1000
sq ft of rug in So. Cal.

Thanks for the advice,

Steve

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 2:20 pm
From: "MRS. CLEAN"

On Jul 23, 2:03 pm, steverossi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We will be remodeling our home soon and eventually replacing the
> berber rug that is in place now. We actually wanted to do the remodel
> sooner and as a result have been pretty neglectful of the rug thinking
> it would be replaced sooner. It is in pretty rough shape (just normal
> traffic dirt and grime, no oil-based stains) and certain areas might
> need a scrubber machine.
>
> I thought we could rent a scrubber at Lowes and then schedule a
> professional to do the hot water extraction just afterwards.
>
> If this sounds workable can anyone recommend a moderately priced
> general purpose spot remover and shampoo for a rug destined for the
> trash in about four months.
>
> I was going to call on Stanley Steamer for the steam cleaning but
> some of the comments make me worry that perhaps the care won't be
> taken to get as much water back out of the rug as possible which could
> be a problem with berber.
>
> It is a small house (3 bed, hallway, and family room) with about 1000
> sq ft of rug in So. Cal.
>
> Thanks for the advice,
>
> Steve

Dry Chem only. But, I'd forget it since it's out of there anyway.
Save your money and go out for a lovely dinner.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 2:51 pm
From: "h"

<steverossiter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e247b57d-b8a7-4d30-b6fa-47fcafea23b5@u36g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> We will be remodeling our home soon and eventually replacing the
> berber rug that is in place now. We actually wanted to do the remodel
> sooner and as a result have been pretty neglectful of the rug thinking
> it would be replaced sooner. It is in pretty rough shape (just normal
> traffic dirt and grime, no oil-based stains) and certain areas might
> need a scrubber machine.
>
> I thought we could rent a scrubber at Lowes and then schedule a
> professional to do the hot water extraction just afterwards.
>
> If this sounds workable can anyone recommend a moderately priced
> general purpose spot remover and shampoo for a rug destined for the
> trash in about four months.
>
> I was going to call on Stanley Steamer for the steam cleaning but
> some of the comments make me worry that perhaps the care won't be
> taken to get as much water back out of the rug as possible which could
> be a problem with berber.
>
> It is a small house (3 bed, hallway, and family room) with about 1000
> sq ft of rug in So. Cal.
>
> Thanks for the advice,
>
> Steve

???Why would you go through the hassle and expense to clean something you'll
be tossing in 4 months? SOOO not worth it.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 2:46 pm
From: Seerialmom

On Jul 23, 2:51 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> <steverossi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:e247b57d-b8a7-4d30-b6fa-47fcafea23b5@u36g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > We will be remodeling our home soon and eventually replacing the
> > berber rug that is in place now. We actually wanted to do the remodel
> > sooner and as a result have been pretty neglectful of the rug thinking
> > it would be replaced sooner. It is in pretty rough shape (just normal
> > traffic dirt and grime, no oil-based stains) and certain areas might
> > need a scrubber machine.
>
> > I thought we could rent a scrubber at Lowes and then schedule a
> > professional to do the hot water extraction just afterwards.
>
> > If this sounds workable can anyone recommend a moderately priced
> > general purpose spot remover and shampoo for a rug destined for the
> > trash in about four months.
>
> > I was going to call on Stanley Steamer for the steam cleaning but
> > some of the comments make me worry that perhaps the care won't be
> > taken to get as much water back out of the rug as possible which could
> > be a problem with berber.
>
> > It is a small house (3 bed, hallway, and family room) with about 1000
> > sq ft of rug in So. Cal.
>
> > Thanks for the advice,
>
> > Steve
>
> ???Why would you go through the hassle and expense to clean something you'll
> be tossing in 4 months? SOOO not worth it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

That was my thinking as well. Just vacuum well and maybe some spot
cleaning (or heck, throw a small area rug on top to cover it).
Reminds me, I should set up some appointments to replace the 30 y/o
original carpets in my house, they're looking a bit worn.

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TOPIC: Cooling Cost
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 2:22 pm
From: Dan Birchall

thismailautodeleted@comcast.net (Vic Smith) wrote:
> Some people never open a window and run their A/C 24/7.
> Wasteful, except they save the physical effort of effort of checking
> the temp, and opening/closing windows.

I take the opposite approach... I (almost) never close my windows,
and have no A/C. :)

--
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TOPIC: eBay Partnet Network Website
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 2:23 pm
From: Dan Birchall

inmystore@gmail.com (inmystore@gmail.com) wrote:
> I have created a new website which gets the currect auctions and items
> listed on eBay.

Have you heard the expression "filling a much-needed hole?"

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TOPIC: Now registers the member to bestow 50 integrals! PayPal
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/90fa7947e691813a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 2:26 pm
From: Dan Birchall

bashley101+mot@gmail.com (The Real Bev) wrote:
> Dan Birchall wrote:
> > bashley101+usenet@gmail.com (The Real Bev) wrote:
> >> I have no idea at all what he's trying to sell
> >>
> >> cheng wrote:
> >> > Now registers the member to bestow 50 integrals! PayPal
> >
> > Obviously he's selling integrals. Didn't you take calculus? :)
>
> <sigh> I was an English major. Now if he'd been pushing conjugations...
>
We'll have no conjugating in here - this is a family newsgroup. :)

--
Oh, wicked, bad, naughty, _evil_ Dan! He is a _naughty_ person...

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TOPIC: Extreme grocery shopping saves cash as food prices rise
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/00ace7baec84eb05?hl=en
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Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 2:43 pm
From: clams_casino

Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:

> <http://www.lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008807200323>
>
> Article about driving 90 miles round trip to buy groceries. And yes,
> the savings takes into account fuel costs. I used to see this a lot
> when I was young at the base commissary. Retirees would drive in once
> a month from long distances and buy all their non-perishables at much
> cheaper prices than off-vase.
>

He claims to save $60-70 (including $15? in gas costs) by driving 90
miles, but ignores the wear and tear costs on his car. It's easy to
make a profit or show savings when one ignores his costs.

At least half that savings is fictitious.

Is there any wonder why gas prices are so high? Hint - it's primarily
ignorant drivers who only consider the cost of gas as their cost of driving.

Granted, he appears to have saved $30-35, but considering his ignorance
of costs, I question if the pricing difference is as great as claimed.
I did a Stop & Shop cost comparison about two years ago and found
Walmart did have a 30% advantage on cost for a $100 basket of goods I
typically purchase, but certainly not the 50% claimed in the article
($150 in goods with about $75 - 80 in savings). Then again, that could
depend significantly on his basket of goods. On the other hand, they
don't mention if there is a regular Walmart within a few mile, where
much of his savings would also likely be realized without driving 90
miles (regular Walmarts do carry much of the staple products that make
up a bulk of typical shopping lists)

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TOPIC: Car Depreciation
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5d4818ede437a0f5?hl=en
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Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 3:35 pm
From: clams_casino

Bob F wrote:

>>
>>
>>
>
>And what are you paying for insurance and licensing for each of those vehicles?
>
>
>
>
Please.

Don't confuse the savings issue by bringing up costs.

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