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TOPIC: Will prices and tax's come down after..
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 16 2008 10:11 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
tmclone@searchmachine.com wrote
> nada <@wild.il> wrote
>> We are in a feudal rule of, by, and for, Global Business. The Merchant
>> Class has destroyed us, with immorality. They have defrauded us, lied
>> to us, rewritten our Laws, and become government themselves.
> Unfortunately, that is nothing new. Jefferson railed against "moneyed
> corporations" which he believed, if I remeber the quote correctly,
> "challenge our government to a trial of strength and threaten the laws
> of the land." Or something like that. By "corporations", however, he
> didn't mean "the merchant class"; small businesses like the guy with
> two restaurants or the real estate broker with one office. He meant
> the giants like the auto industry, big oil, big retail, and big finance.
There werent any of those in his day, so he cant have meant that.
> He was right, too.
Nope. About slavery either.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 16 2008 10:16 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
nada wrote:
> Boothbay wrote:
>> Everyone is raising prices and tax's with the excuse of the rotten
>> economy ...now will it ever be possible once the economy comes back
>> strong and it will, it usually does...will all those raised prices
>> and tax's come down again? I think not.
> They are still playing the corrupt game.
Some always do. Thats why we have jails and courts.
> I cannot fathom a rational end to it.
Your problem.
> We can look at what is happening and see what lesser but similar crisis has brought.
Nope. The world financial system didnt implode spectacularly in those.
> I don't care to prophesy on this one.
We'll survive it fine, just like we did the great depression, two world wars,
the cold war, countless stupid pointless wars like Vietnam etc etc etc.
> Until we get some People interested, in the future, of an American Republic and the representing American Citizens we
> haven't got a hell, of a lot, of future left.
Fools made the same stupid claim about the great depression and wars too.
> We are in a feudal rule of, by, and for, Global Business.
You wouldnt know what real feudal rule was if it bit you on your lard arse.
We've just seen the fools that produced the current fiasco electorally flushed where they belong.
> The Merchant Class has destroyed us, with immorality.
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys.
You wouldnt know what real destruction was if it bit you on your lard arse, child.
> They have defrauded us, lied to us, rewritten our Laws, and become government themselves.
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys.
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TOPIC: Purchase All Available US Autos
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Dec 16 2008 10:18 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Dave Head wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:23:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dave Head wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:03:18 +1100, "Simon Jones" <sj@hsed.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave Head wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:14:51 +0000 (UTC), Brent
>>>>> <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2008-12-16, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:56:38 -0500, edward ohare
>>>>>>> <edward_ohare@nospam.yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:38:33 GMT, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We just have to restrain ourselves and remember what we need
>>>>>>>>> to do if we ever want to see prosperity again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Short list:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Elect people who don't spend money we don't have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are no such people any more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually one ran for president. His name was Ron Paul.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) Cut way back on the armed forces
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wanna go to a militia? Just wait for the foreign invasion, and
>>>>>>> fight them on the ground with small arms on our own soil. No
>>>>>>> need to project power around the world - we can do it all
>>>>>>> ourselves. Hope you don't mind drilling, and 2 weeks of
>>>>>>> maneuvers each year, until you're 60 years old...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey, it'll be just like, "Red Dawn..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The rest of the world would _sooo_ take advantage of us if we
>>>>>>> didn't keep up a strong military...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why does the US need an empire around the world? Wouldn't have
>>>>>> such a need for the military if it wasn't for the US government
>>>>>> didn't interfere in other people's business for the benefit of
>>>>>> the wealthy that government serves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, yeah, I forgot - nobody else on the planet ever engages in
>>>>> aggression, attempts to harrass or interdict shipping on the high
>>>>> seas that is vital to us, attack our friends or aids our enemies,
>>>>> etc. No conflicts around the world ever involve American citizens
>>>>> trapped in combat zones the need rescuing, our embassies are never
>>>>> held hostage, or anything like that. We have no shorelines that
>>>>> would be wide open to attack from whoever decided that their tin
>>>>> can of a combat ship could roll into San Francisco harbor and
>>>>> shoot up the town.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for empire, we've sent our soldiers far and wide around the
>>>>> globe, and never have we asked for more land than is necessary to
>>>>> bury those that do not return.
>>>>
>>>> That's a lie, pity about the massive bases like Diego.
>>>
>>> "Diego Garcia is a British territory"
>>>
>>> http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/diego-garcia.htm
>>
>> Irrelevant to that claim of yours.
>>
>>> Nope - not a piece of land that we've conquered.
>>
>> You never said conquered.
> That's what "empire" means - taking other people's land...
Wrong again. WW2 wasnt about empire. Neither was the cold war either.
Vietnam in spades.
>> Pity about the other bases in the pacific that the US did conquer.
>>
>>> Try again...
>>
>> No need, you fucked up completely.
>>
>>>>>>>> 3) Better education
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is that even possible any more? The bone-headed school
>>>>>>> administrations around the country are all sidetracked in worry
>>>>>>> about students' self esteem, and so can't possibly grade their
>>>>>>> work fairly. There can't be anyone allowed to fail, y'know?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Simple. get the government out of the education business.
>>>>>> Government education is designed to dumb people down because that
>>>>>> is in government's best interest. (
>>>>>> http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/ )
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Great idea. Schools should be tuition driven, anyway. Get the
>>>>> gov't out of paying for a universal education, and send the poor
>>>>> kids off to factories to make sneakers and baseball caps. They'll
>>>>> never amount to anything anyway, y'know?
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