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Wednesday, October 17, 2007

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TOPIC: flush da toilet with rain-water
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d09a42bdb27b1164?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 1:52 pm
From: rick++

Unfortunately this was banned during some 1980s California droughts
I lived it. Cities were afraid of disease getting into the system.

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TOPIC: Offering a part-time job
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b5ef3177e20bbe83?hl=en
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Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 1:59 pm
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TOPIC: For those who rarely fill their refrigerators.....
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5e16d6f7a7266491?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:25 pm
From: "Don K"

"E Z Peaces" <cash@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:ff5m4t$j74$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Jeff wrote:
>
>>
>> Could be, but I think the start up surge is a small compared to the run time. I
>> remember when we discussed fluorescent starting surge that another urban myth of
>> leaving fluorescent lights on saved money was debunked.
>
> Ann Landers once settled the controversy by ruling that it's more economical to leave
> your lights on if you don't plan to be gone more than four hours. She said that's the
> final word on the subject.

And thus the feud with Dear Abbey started.

Don

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TOPIC: "If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's red ....
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1ab4eec5e0e4a531?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:31 pm
From: "Otto Bahn"

"HangEveryRepubliKKKan" <Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote in

> > Do you spread the smegma all over your penis when you masturbate?
>
> Do you swallow your Daddy's smegma when you felate him? Smegma Boy.

Don't be stupid. What we're trying to ascertain is how one
gets smegma on their hands merely by taking a pee. I figure
you'd have to "work at it", IYKWIM, AITYD.

--oTTo--

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 3:42 pm
From: "HangEveryRepubliKKKan"

>> Do you swallow your Daddy's smegma when you felate him? Smegma Boy.

"Otto Bahn" <ei@eio.com> wrote
> Don't be stupid.

I see, you spat it out afterward. Is that what your mommie taught you
Smegma Boy?

"Otto Bahn" <ei@eio.com> wrote
> What we're trying to ascertain is how one gets smegma on their hands
> merely by taking a pee.

I guess you continue to coat your fingers with it because you haven't
figured it out yet.

Sad.. Sad.... Smegma Boy.

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TOPIC: the price is wrong, @#%&@!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6ff0a0f299d2fb17?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:35 pm
From: Al Bundy

On Oct 17, 10:56 am, "OhioGuy" <n...@none.net> wrote:

>
> First they tried to foist the Metric System on us. Next there was a
> concerted effort to remove the symbol for cents from common usage. Later
> there was the "War on Christmas" (happy holidays, everyone!). Now it looks
> like the plain old decimal place is also going the way of the dodo, because
> I guess it's just too much trouble to bother with.

Don't forget nooses. You can't hang a skeleton from a tree for
Halloween without Al Sharpton calling you out.

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TOPIC: Use flat bed sheets only?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/11daf24d12dfd175?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:36 pm
From: me@privacy.net

>> Also.... can a person use a queen size flat sheet
>> on a FULL bed as the bottom sheet so that it will
>> have more material to tuck under the mattress?
>
>Yep, thats what I do, buy oversized for that reason.

OK but do you use say a queen sheet (oversized) on
bottom ONLY? Sill use a regular size full sheet for the
top?

Oh by the way....wonder if something like this would
secure flat sheets on mattress?

http://www.amazon.com/Sheet-Straps-Set-of-4/dp/B000BFWFJ8

== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:38 pm
From: me@privacy.net

>> Curious if anyone here refuses to use fitted
>> bed sheets and instead uses two flat sheets?
>
>Yeah, I do, I gave up on fitted bottoms sheets because
>I couldnt find any that stay fitted to the mattress properly.

Off topic...... but what thread count and brand and
material sheets does everyone like?

I'm thinking of going high end...say 500 thread count.
Waste of money?

Also what abt sheets with a bit of polyester in them as
well as cotton? They last longer and wear better than
ALL cotton sheets?

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:45 pm
From: "Don K"

"Melissa" <nospam@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:47166ce7$0$16463$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:0tnch3horkok8853j3hcpqge7btd03qdhm@4ax.com...
>>
>> I HATE trying to fold and store fitted sheets and
>> thinking abt going back to all flat sheets.... but I
>> have a full bed only.... no queen or king.
>
> Folding fitted sheets is no big deal. It's way easier than having to retuck
> a flat sheet in on a mattress all the time.
>
> Just fold the fitted sheet, tuck the corners into each other, fold again so
> all 4 corners end up tucked inside of one. Flatten it out, finish folding,
> and you're good to go.

I don't fold sheets by placing them down on anything, I fold in free-space.
I grab two corners in one hand, stretch out the other hand to locate the
mid-point, then use my chin to make the 2nd fold into quarters.

Fitted sheets fold lumpy. The key to a stress-free life is to not be a
perfectionist and just accept that's just the way things are.

Don

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:52 pm
From: "Don K"

<me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:p30dh3tr1d12d9v6l5eh8e67a58sccggh0@4ax.com...
>
> Off topic...... but what thread count and brand and
> material sheets does everyone like?
>
> I'm thinking of going high end...say 500 thread count.
> Waste of money?
>
> Also what abt sheets with a bit of polyester in them as
> well as cotton? They last longer and wear better than
> ALL cotton sheets?

I like flannel sheets.
I don't like sheets that feel cold when you first get into bed.

Don

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:56 pm
From: me@privacy.net

><me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:p30dh3tr1d12d9v6l5eh8e67a58sccggh0@4ax.com...
>>
>> Off topic...... but what thread count and brand and
>> material sheets does everyone like?
>>
>> I'm thinking of going high end...say 500 thread count.
>> Waste of money?
>>
>> Also what abt sheets with a bit of polyester in them as
>> well as cotton? They last longer and wear better than
>> ALL cotton sheets?
>
>I like flannel sheets.
>I don't like sheets that feel cold when you first get into bed.
>
>Don
>

Ok but what you use for the summer?

== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 3:31 pm
From: "Don K"

<me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:681dh3dhfo66s2h6pmq0lp6ggb8j55no52@4ax.com...
> ><me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:p30dh3tr1d12d9v6l5eh8e67a58sccggh0@4ax.com...

>>I like flannel sheets.
>>I don't like sheets that feel cold when you first get into bed.
>>
>
> Ok but what you use for the summer?

Same thing.
The interior of my house doesn't get all that hot in summer.

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 3:34 pm
From: nr

> Oh by the way....wonder if something like this would
> secure flat sheets on mattress?
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Sheet-Straps-Set-of-4/dp/B000BFWFJ8

I've been using similar straps for years. Very handy.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 4:24 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

me@privacy.net wrote:

>>> Also.... can a person use a queen size flat sheet
>>> on a FULL bed as the bottom sheet so that it will
>>> have more material to tuck under the mattress?

>> Yep, thats what I do, buy oversized for that reason.

> OK but do you use say a queen sheet (oversized) on bottom ONLY?

Nope.

> Sill use a regular size full sheet for the top?

Nope, the extra tuck in is useful for the top too.

> Oh by the way....wonder if something like
> this would secure flat sheets on mattress?

> http://www.amazon.com/Sheet-Straps-Set-of-4/dp/B000BFWFJ8

It looks like they are intended for use on fitted sheets.

Not sure how well they would work on flat sheets, too much spare tucked
in sheet to be viable with those and no edge to apply them to either.

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 4:26 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

me@privacy.net wrote:
>>> Curious if anyone here refuses to use fitted
>>> bed sheets and instead uses two flat sheets?
>>
>> Yeah, I do, I gave up on fitted bottoms sheets because
>> I couldnt find any that stay fitted to the mattress properly.

> Off topic...... but what thread count and brand
> and material sheets does everyone like?

I havent worked out that out yet, just found that the
previous ones didnt last very long and that you can see
thru the current latest with the light behind them at night.

> I'm thinking of going high end...say 500 thread count.
> Waste of money?

I doubt it.

> Also what abt sheets with a bit of polyester in them as
> well as cotton? They last longer and wear better than
> ALL cotton sheets?

Yep, poly always does have that advantage.

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TOPIC: SMS to email and back gateway?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/05164fc5bbf659c1?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:39 pm
From: me@privacy.net

>> Does it work well?
>
>Not as well as a cellphone that allows you to email directly, particularly
>on the convenient support for email addresses in the phone book etc.

what I'm trying to do is get smart phone -like email
capabilities but not pay a big monthly data charge....
use sms charges as well

Id like to send myself emails.... reminders, info,
expenses etc.... send em to my yahoo email acct

Here in the USA I can get an unlimited sms service for
abt $5 a month extra..... vs data plan for smart phone
abt $30 month

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 4:32 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

me@privacy.net wrote:

>>> Does it work well?

>> Not as well as a cellphone that allows you to email directly,
>> particularly on the convenient support for email addresses
>> in the phone book etc.

> what I'm trying to do is get smart phone -like email
> capabilities but not pay a big monthly data charge....
> use sms charges as well

> Id like to send myself emails.... reminders, info,
> expenses etc.... send em to my yahoo email acct

The better cellphones have an independant reminder system.

And I find I need a pretty sophisticated reminder system
myself, particularly with the more unusual recurrences like
just week days and not weekend days, first monday in the
month every second month etc. I need something with the
power of Outlook on that and emails and sms doesnt have that.

Tho a few of the online reminder systems can do that with sms and email.

> Here in the USA I can get an unlimited sms service for abt $5
> a month extra..... vs data plan for smart phone abt $30 month

My data plan just involves payment for the data
I actually use, no fixed charge per month involved.

Same with sms too, a fixed low charge per sms tho it wouldnt be
that cheap if I used it for all reminders. I normally have 10-20 a day.

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TOPIC: Bush To Let Illegal Aliens Get $40 Digital TV Coupons
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f941e4a655a77d3f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:45 pm
From: Thanatos

In article <47165ba9$0$32539$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

> "Thanatos" <atropos@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:atropos-BDE3E1.20501716102007@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <47154f8c$0$15354$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> > "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Thanatos" <atropos@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> news:atropos-373F81.15084316102007@news.giganews.com...
> >> > In article <47150409$0$4995$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> >> > "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Thanatos" <atropos@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> >
> >> >> > But they have to do it according to established law. They can't
> >> >> > (legally) just pass a law declaring something to be illegal and then
> >> >> > ignore it.
> >> >>
> >> >> They are the ones who make the laws.
> >> >
> >> > And they also have to abide by them.
> >>
> >> Not really.
> >
> > Yes really.
>
> If everyone abided by the law, you would not need laws.
> >
> >> >> They have the power to change the law
> >> >
> >> > And until they do, they have to abide by them.
> >> >
> >> >> They passed the fourteenth ammendment, then reversed
> >> >> themselves and invalidated the fourteenth ammendment.
> >> >
> >> > Really? I wasn't aware the 14th had been repealed. Which amendment
> >> > repealed it?
> >>
> >> Soory I meant the 18th and 21 st Amendment
> >
> > Note that until they passed the 21st Amendment, the government had to
> > abide by the restrictions of the 18th.
>
> And do you really think that every member of Congress, every member of their
> staff at the time, everyone working for the Government, including those who
> were in law enforcement abided by the law, when prohibition was the law of
> the land? If you do, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Your logic is not our earth logic. When legislators break the law, they
get arrested just like anyone else. Does the name Larry Craig ring a
bell?

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TOPIC: free search engine?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/db0014d235679823?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:49 pm
From: "J. Davidson"

Are there any search engines which are free anymore?
Jackie

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:53 pm
From: George Grapman

J. Davidson wrote:
> Are there any search engines which are free anymore?
> Jackie
>
>
I never knew of any that were not free.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 4:45 pm
From: "J. Davidson"

George Grapman <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote in message
news:JvvRi.35747$eY.6300@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
> J. Davidson wrote:
> > Are there any search engines which are free anymore?
> > Jackie
> >
> >
> I never knew of any that were not free.

The ones I am using lately may give some information such as name and state
but you have to pay for the phone number and the rest of the address.
Jackie

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TOPIC: Lithium Ion or NiMH power tool "systems": Which one?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6a98c39c7645880f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:57 pm
From: me@privacy.net

I was originally looking to buy a Dust Buster type
device but all the consumer ones have built in
rechargeable batteries....such that once the battery
dies you have to throw away the whole unit. Very
wasteful!!

I recently came across many power tool "systems" where
you buy the battery units separate and they can be
slipped on various hand tools such as drill, chop saw,
and hand vacs!

Curious which brand/model is the best value in terms of
light weight, stamina, etc?

Is Li-Ion better than say NiMH?

Any brands to consider such as Black and Decker new GPX
system? Milwaukee's?

I'm only buying the hand vac and battery system for
now..... but since I have no other power tools "might"
need the drill or saw at some point.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 4:20 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

me@privacy.net wrote:
> I was originally looking to buy a Dust Buster type
> device but all the consumer ones have built in
> rechargeable batteries....such that once the battery
> dies you have to throw away the whole unit. Very
> wasteful!!
>
> I recently came across many power tool "systems" where
> you buy the battery units separate and they can be
> slipped on various hand tools such as drill, chop saw,
> and hand vacs!
>
> Curious which brand/model is the best value in terms of
> light weight, stamina, etc?

> Is Li-Ion better than say NiMH?

Yes, most of the time except for very heavy load devices.

> Any brands to consider such as Black and Decker new GPX
> system? Milwaukee's?
>
> I'm only buying the hand vac and battery system for
> now..... but since I have no other power tools "might"
> need the drill or saw at some point.

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TOPIC: The Causes of Baldness
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7137bffc75729670?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 3:31 pm
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TOPIC: Update on the Free iPod from Key Bank
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2f5122d4b3b41d48?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 5:11 pm
From: Gordon

THE FREE iPOD is HERE!! Whoo! Whoo!

FedX delivered a package today from "The Fulfillment Center"
and I knew exactly what was in it. Inside the box, inside
a padded envelope, was a 4GB iPod Nano. And it's the new
wider model.

THere was also a rather diminutive getting started guide.
Needed my reading glasses to read it. IT's obvious which
generation they are marketing this to.

So if you happen to by riding Portland's Max, and see a
middle aged, slightly balding, slightly overweight, guy
listening to an iPod with a big grin... Well now you
know why.

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