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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko fefj0jrijijojfjfla
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Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 12:09 am
From: Igor Dunjic-Duke

Milenko Kindl

WASHINGTON - Commanders in Iraq have decided to begin the drawdown of
U.S. forces in volatile Diyala province, marking a turning point in
the U.S. military mission, The Associated Press has learned.
ADVERTISEMENT

Instead of replacing the 3rd Brigade of the 1st Cavalry Division,
which is returning to its home base at Fort Hood, Texas, in December,
soldiers from another brigade in Salahuddin province next door will
expand into Diyala, thereby broadening its area of responsibility,
several officials said Tuesday.

In this way, the number of Army ground combat brigades in Iraq will
fall from 20 to 19. This reflects President Bush's bid to begin
reducing the American military force and shifting its role away from
fighting the insurgency toward more support functions like training
and advising Iraqi security forces.

The December move, which has not yet been announced by the Pentagon,
was described to the AP by Col. Stephen Twitty, commander of the 4th
Brigade, 1st Cavalry, in a telephone interview Tuesday. It was
confirmed by three other officials in Iraq, including Lt. Col. Michael
Donnelly, chief spokesman for the commanding general of U.S. forces in
northern Iraq, Maj. Gen. Benjamin Mixon.

The idea is to avoid vacating a contested area, like Diyala, which is
northeast of Baghdad, while beginning Bush's announced reduction of at
least 21,500 troops, of which 17,000 were sent to the Baghdad area
last spring.

The shift in Diyala in December could be a model for follow-on
reductions next year, with a redrawing of the U.S. lines of
responsibility so that a departing brigade has its battle space
consumed by a remaining brigade. At the same time, Iraqi security
forces would assume greater responsibility.

Diyala province is a battered landscape of warring tribes, fertile
valleys and pockets of al-Qaida fighters. The sectarian and tribal
chasms are wide. Commanders cited signs of substantial progress in the
months since thousands of U.S. and Iraqi forces stormed the provincial
capital of Baqouba in June.

The unit leaving in December, the 3rd Brigade of the 1st Cavalry, has
been in Iraq since October 2006. When it leaves, the 4th Stryker
Brigade of the 2nd Infantry Division, now in Salahuddin province, will
add Diyala to its area of responsibility.

Donnelly said that even though the number of combat brigades in Iraq
will drop by one with the departure of the 3rd Brigade of the 1st
Cavalry, the total number of soldiers in northern Iraq will remain
almost constant. That is because later in December a unit arriving
from Fort Hood - the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment - has substantially
more soldiers than the unit it will replace.

It is not yet clear how the rest of the five-brigade reduction will be
carried out; the cuts are to be completed by July 2008, under a plan
recommended by Gen. David Petraeus, the top commander in Iraq, and
announced by Bush in September. It probably will include some fresh
reductions in the western province of Anbar, where insurgent violence
has declined substantially this year.

When Bush announced on Sept. 13 that security in Iraq had improved
enough to permit the withdrawal of five brigades between December and
next July, commanders said they had not yet figured out how it would
be done. The reductions will shrink the U.S. force from 20 combat
brigades to 15, which is the total that prevailed before Bush decided
in January to add five brigades as the centerpiece of a new strategy
designed to tamp down sectarian violence mainly in Baghdad.

The 4th Stryker Brigade that will expand its battle space into Diyala
province is one of those five so-called surge brigades. It got to Iraq
in April and is scheduled to remain until July 2008.

In remarks at the Pentagon on Tuesday, Lt. Gen. Carter Ham, the chief
of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the pace at which
the five Army brigades are withdrawn "isn't mechanical" and will be
slowed or accelerated depending on commanders' assessment of security
progress.

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko fefj0jrijijojfjfl
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ce3b85960b516d32?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 12:09 am
From: Igor Dunjic-Duke

Milenko Kindl

The 4th Stryker Brigade that will expand its battle space into Diyala
province is one of those five so-called surge brigades. It got to Iraq
in April and is scheduled to remain until July 2008.

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko fefj0jrijijojfjf
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 12:10 am
From: Igor Dunjic-Duke

Milenko Kindl

The 4th Stryker Brigade that will expand its battle space into Diyala
province is one of those five so-called surge brigades. It got to Iraq
in April and is scheduled to remain until July 2008.

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TOPIC: Bush To Let Illegal Aliens Get $40 Digital TV Coupons
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 12:50 am
From: "Rick"

"SFTV_troy" <SFTV_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1192534824.915214.197030@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> (1) It's only $40.
>
> (2) It would be too expensive to try to block illegals from getting
> the coupons. The amount of manpower required to verify, "Is Greg a
> citizen or an illegal?" would be WAY more expensive than the amount of
> money lost. You'd probably spend 1 million just to save $500,000,
> which makes no sense. Like Benjamin Franklin said, "Penny wise and
> dollar foolish."
>
> (3) I'd rather crackdown on the illegal in more-expensive areas, like
> excluding them from SS, Medicare, Medicaid. And also blocking them
> from acquiring a job (and arresting those with fake IDs).

They don't even need fake ID's now that New York is going to be handing them
out to Illegal's and California about to do the same.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 4:21 am
From: SFTV_troy

David Johnston wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 04:43:43 -0700, SFTV_troy <SFTV_troy@yahoo.com>
> >
> >Why is it necessary for them to enter illegally? Why can't they
> >follow the process of filling-out an application, and getting a Visa?
> >This is what my Chinese friend did. This is what my other Japanese
> >friend did. I'm sure the Mexicans can do the same... just ask the
> >U.S. embassy for the application. Be legal, not illegal.
>
> There's no way the United States would ever allow most of them to
> immigrate. There are too many of them and the kind of work they do
> isn't valued highly.

Too bad. That's no excuse to break the law & enter illegally. If
they're caught, send them back home, and hand them a Visa application
so they can enter legally.

As for the vouchers:

(1) It's only $40.

(2) It would be too expensive to try to block illegals from getting
coupons. The amount of manpower required to verify, "Is Greg a
citizen or an illegal?" would be WAY more expensive than the amount of
money lost. You'd probably spend 1 million just to save $500,000,
which makes no sense. Like Benjamin Franklin said, "Penny wise and
dollar foolish."

(3) I'd rather crackdown on the illegal in more-expensive areas, like
excluding them from SS, Medicare, Medicaid. And also blocking them
from acquiring a job (and arresting those with fake IDs).

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 4:27 am
From: SFTV_troy

Rod Speed wrote:
> SFTV_troy <SFTV_troy@yahoo.com> wrote
> > Rod Speed wrote
> >> Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote
>
> >>> Does it or does it not convince some that they prefer
> >>> to stay in Mexico rather than enter this country illegally?
>
> >> Nope, wont make any difference to that, essentially because
> >> working conditions in mexico are so much worse than in the
> >> US even if jobs are made available for them in mexico.
>
> > Why is it necessary for them to enter illegally?
>
> Because they wont be allowed in using the legal route.

Too bad. That's no excuse to break the law & enter illegally. *I'd*
like to be to drive 120 miles an hour on I-80 (cross-country where
it's empty), but I can't because we have laws. If I can't break the
laws, why should "they" be allowed to break the law? If they're
caught, send them back home, and hand them a Visa application so they
can enter legally.

> > This is what my Chinese friend did. This is what my Japanese friend did.
>
> And vastly more got told that they dont qualify.

FALSE. They're both living in suburban D.C. They are U.S. citizens
now, because that's what happens when you follow the laws, rather than
act like a criminal and try to enter illegally.

As for the vouchers:

(1) It's only $40.

(3) I'd rather crackdown on the illegal in more-expensive areas, like
excluding them from SS, Medicare, Medicaid. And also blocking them
from acquiring a job (and arresting those with fake IDs).

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 11:59 am
From: "Jerry Okamura"

"Thanatos" <atropos@mac.com> wrote in message
news:atropos-BDE3E1.20501716102007@news.giganews.com...
> In article <47154f8c$0$15354$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> "Thanatos" <atropos@mac.com> wrote in message
>> news:atropos-373F81.15084316102007@news.giganews.com...
>> > In article <47150409$0$4995$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
>> > "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Thanatos" <atropos@mac.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> >> > But they have to do it according to established law. They can't
>> >> > (legally) just pass a law declaring something to be illegal and then
>> >> > ignore it.
>> >>
>> >> They are the ones who make the laws.
>> >
>> > And they also have to abide by them.
>>
>> Not really.
>
> Yes really.

If everyone abided by the law, you would not need laws.
>
>> >> They have the power to change the law
>> >
>> > And until they do, they have to abide by them.
>> >
>> >> They passed the fourteenth ammendment, then reversed
>> >> themselves and invalidated the fourteenth ammendment.
>> >
>> > Really? I wasn't aware the 14th had been repealed. Which amendment
>> > repealed it?
>>
>> Soory I meant the 18th and 21 st Amendment
>
> Note that until they passed the 21st Amendment, the government had to
> abide by the restrictions of the 18th.

And do you really think that every member of Congress, every member of their
staff at the time, everyone working for the Government, including those who
were in law enforcement abided by the law, when prohibition was the law of
the land? If you do, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 12:00 pm
From: "Jerry Okamura"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5nl4l8Fi9r2cU1@mid.individual.net...
> Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rick <videojockey1a@yahoo.comzzzz> wrote
>>>>>>>> Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Thanatos <atropos@mac.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanatos <atropos@mac.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rick <videojockey1a@yahoo.comzzzz> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Build the Fence!
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They'd just do an end run around it, like the Cubans do.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The reason it works for the Cubans is that once they make
>>>>>>>>>>>> it to U.S. soil, the law says they get to stay.
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jumping ahead of the line when they do that?
>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if they get to become citizens or not. But they
>>>>>>>>>> get to stay here as foreign residents at a minimum.
>
>>>>>>>>> And what is the difference between Cubans "jumping ahead of the
>>>>>>>>> line" and those illegals who are in this country already,
>>>>>>>>> "jumping ahead of the line"?
>
>>>>>>>> It's part of a program President Kennedy or Johnson put in
>>>>>>>> place for the bang up job they did in the Bay of Pigs.
>
>>>>>>> No it isnt, it preceeded that.
>
>>>>>> What preceded that?
>
>>>>> That business about them being allowed to stay if
>>>>> they made it to the US preceeded the Bay of Pigs.
>
>> http://origin.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/americas/17289788.htm?source=rss&channel=miamiherald_americas
>
> Irrelevant to what happened legally just after Castro took over.
>

Huh?

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TOPIC: Who Else Wants To Save At Least £20 A Month On Their Text Charges
Whilst Sending The Same Amount Of SMS To More Than 130 Countries?
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Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 1:25 am
From: Blitzplanet

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TOPIC: Gift Packing from RUBITA DESIGNER PACKING HUB
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Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 1:41 am
From: rubita

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TOPIC: personal checks
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Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 2:22 am
From: Jimington

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:02:17 -0700, William Souden <souden@nospam.com>
wrote:

>Rod Speed wrote:
>> Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote
>>> Shawn Hirn wrote
>>>> bob@coolgroups.com wrote
>>
>>>>> Can someone recommend a cheap place to re-order personal checks on the net?
>>
>>>> Do online banking and your need for personal checks and stamps will drop considerably.
>>
>>> Indeed. This month I used *three* checks,
>>
>> I havent used one for years, literally, and that was a dinosaur
>> operation that flogs the cheapest pads for my swamp cooler.
>> I keep just one check in my wallet for just such an eventuality,
>> and it was pretty battered by the time I came to use it, and
>> he didnt look that happy about accepting it, but he did.
>>
>>> and it was a big event.
>>
>> A drunken celebration eh ?
>>
>>> Normally, it's only one, which is for rent.
>>
>> Not stupid enough to still be paying rent.
>
> Translation" you don't pay rent because welfare pays it for you.

What part of built his own house don't you understand?

>>
>>> But this month I mailed a check to an individual because it was the easiest way to get them money I owed them for
>>> something,
>>
>> I pay all those electronically now and got paid that way too
>
>
> Translation: Australia now uses debit cards for welfare payments.

Close to the mark. There's still a few dinosaurs who receive a cheque
in the mail but almost all welfare payments are made by direct debit
into their bank account. Almost all workers get paid the same way now
too.
For the savvy, using the internet for bank use has made life much
easier than the dinosaur cheque days. We even paid for our house via
direct debit through the bank.

>, the cash
>> for the bills I paid for one of the neighbours while they were away
>> and I was paying their bills would have been inconvenient for me.
>>
>>> and I also cashed a check at the supermarket (for the first time ever) because my ATM card expired and the machine ate
>>> it
>>> (and the credit union forgot to send me a new one in advance).
>>
>> I always have more than one card in the wallet for just such a problem.
>>
>>> Another approach is to look into whether you can get an account at your credit union (or bank) which includes free
>>> checks. I spent a lot of time trying to find cheap checks on the internet, failed to
>>> find anything really all that cheap, ordered checks anyway, and then a month or two later changed to another type of
>>> account for other reasons, only to realize the new account gives me free checks.
>>
>> A Jap would have the decency to disembowel itself.
>
> Translation-Welfare boy is off his meds again.
>>
>>
Of what relevance is welfare?

Jim.

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My dull website.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 7:51 am
From: William Souden

Jimington wrote:
>>> he didnt look that happy about accepting it, but he did.
>>>
>>>> and it was a big event.
>>> A drunken celebration eh ?
>>>
>>>> Normally, it's only one, which is for rent.
>>> Not stupid enough to still be paying rent.
>> Translation" you don't pay rent because welfare pays it for you.
>
> What part of built his own house don't you understand?

You mean he said he built it. Rod says many thing, many are fantasies.
>
>>>> But this month I mailed a check to an individual because it was the easiest way to get them money I owed them for
>>>> something,
>>> I pay all those electronically now and got paid that way too
>>
>> Translation: Australia now uses debit cards for welfare payments.
>
> Close to the mark. There's still a few dinosaurs who receive a cheque
> in the mail but almost all welfare payments are made by direct debit
> into their bank account. Almost all workers get paid the same way now
> too.
> For the savvy, using the internet for bank use has made life much
> easier than the dinosaur cheque days. We even paid for our house via
> direct debit through the bank.
>
>> , the cash
>>> for the bills I paid for one of the neighbours while they were away
>>> and I was paying their bills would have been inconvenient for me.
>>>
>>>> and I also cashed a check at the supermarket (for the first time ever) because my ATM card expired and the machine ate
>>>> it
>>>> (and the credit union forgot to send me a new one in advance).
>>> I always have more than one card in the wallet for just such a problem.
>>>
>>>> Another approach is to look into whether you can get an account at your credit union (or bank) which includes free
>>>> checks. I spent a lot of time trying to find cheap checks on the internet, failed to
>>>> find anything really all that cheap, ordered checks anyway, and then a month or two later changed to another type of
>>>> account for other reasons, only to realize the new account gives me free checks.
>>> A Jap would have the decency to disembowel itself.
>> Translation-Welfare boy is off his meds again.
>>>
> Of what relevance is welfare?
>
> Jim.
> http://inghamwebcam.com/
> My dull website.

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TOPIC: Acheter Acomplia Rimonabant
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Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 3:06 am
From: European

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TOPIC: flush da toilet with rain-water
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 5:45 am
From: Jeff

Anthony Matonak wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>
>> James wrote:
>
> ...
>
>>> An outhouse or composting toilet is even better since all that shit
>>> don't have to go through sewerage treatment plant.
>>>
>> I don't know of an urban or suburban setting where an outhouse is
>> allowed.
>
>
> I don't know about outhouses but certainly composting and incinerating
> toilets are allowed in cities. Septic systems may also be allowed in
> some areas.
>
> All this is really beside the point as 90+ percent of the water use
> in the United States (and probably elsewhere) is used in agriculture
> and industry. Your flush is like a drop in the bucket compared their
> use of water.

Except when where you live has a limited water supply that must be
shared by all the residents. I don't really understand the problem
downstream as it seems that most of that water is processed and
returned. Yet water is a serious problem and where I live all outdoor
watering has been banned. With a projection to double the population in
the next 15 years, I don't think they have thought hard enough about
supplying water. Some days I wonder if we'll go the ways of the great
Mayan cities...

Jeff

>
> Anthony

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TOPIC: "If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's red ....
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 7:55 am
From: "Otto Bahn"

"HangEveryRepubliKKKan" <Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote

> "Otto Bahn" <ei@eio.com> wrote
> > Perhaps you have no penis. That would explain a lot.
>
> Possibly.

It would explain why some asshole would think taking
a leak gets smegma on your hands, and also explain
why you're an asshole. Occam's razor can be cruel.

--oTTo--

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TOPIC: the price is wrong, @#%&@!
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 7:56 am
From: "OhioGuy"

I see it all the time - signs saying "milk $250 a gallon", or "bananas
$49 a pound" It annoys my wife so much that she has complained to store
managers, and has toyed with the idea of taking a black permanent marker
along with her.

Is it really so hard to put a decimal place in a sign? I mean, they went
to the bother of putting the units on the sign, so why not get the price
right?

First they tried to foist the Metric System on us. Next there was a
concerted effort to remove the symbol for cents from common usage. Later
there was the "War on Christmas" (happy holidays, everyone!). Now it looks
like the plain old decimal place is also going the way of the dodo, because
I guess it's just too much trouble to bother with.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 8:48 am
From: "Bill"

"OhioGuy" wrote in message
> I see it all the time - signs saying "milk $250 a gallon", or "bananas
> $49 a pound"...
>

I remember when I was in school (many moons ago!) and did not include the
decimal, it would be marked wrong and I would be chastised! It was a big no
no.

I guess they don't teach these things anymore... (I too see signs like this
all the time.)

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 9:17 am
From: "Evelyn C. Leeper"

OhioGuy wrote:
> I see it all the time - signs saying "milk $250 a gallon", or "bananas
> $49 a pound" It annoys my wife so much that she has complained to store
> managers, and has toyed with the idea of taking a black permanent marker
> along with her.
>
> Is it really so hard to put a decimal place in a sign? I mean, they went
> to the bother of putting the units on the sign, so why not get the price
> right?

That's because they used up all their decimal points in signs that say
".99 cents" or ".50 cents".

--
Evelyn C. Leeper
He who knows only his own side of the case
knows little of that. -John Stuart Mill

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== 1 of 4 ==
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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 10:02 am
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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 10:02 am
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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 10:12 am
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 10:35 am
From: Katalac

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TOPIC: LCD power consumption
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 11:18 am
From: me@privacy.net

>A newer LCD computer monitor is superior for TV use but it usually
>costs more because of its higher resolution.

OK but a BIG LCD computer monitor..... one big enough
for TV watching form a distance.... is very expensive.
No?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 17 2007 12:00 pm
From: E Z Peaces

Jeff wrote:

>
> Could be, but I think the start up surge is a small compared to the
> run time. I remember when we discussed fluorescent starting surge that
> another urban myth of leaving fluorescent lights on saved money was
> debunked.

Ann Landers once settled the controversy by ruling that it's more
economical to leave your lights on if you don't plan to be gone more
than four hours. She said that's the final word on the subject.

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