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* Why does olive oil & vinnegar (mixed) need to be refrigerated anyway? - 2
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* personal checks - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c66a055f62296a0a?hl=en
* vacuum sealers or vacuum packagers - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/be6f2a6eae059fa6?hl=en
* Did I buy the worst two Nikon cameras (or are they all this bad?) - 1
messages, 1 author
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* best price on 2 GB SD card? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3e1069e27c061244?hl=en
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TOPIC: Why does olive oil & vinnegar (mixed) need to be refrigerated anyway?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cbc77de31f1e4169?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 15 2007 11:17 pm
From: E Z Peaces
Daniel T. wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Daniel T. <daniel_t@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>> As I understand it, the garlic and other herbs put in the
>>> dressing may have botulism spores on them, the oil provides the
>>> environment for the botulism to grow. The vinegar doesn't stop
>>> the growth because it separates too easily from the mix.
>> Doesnt explain why the ready to use stuff keeps fine unrefrigerated
>> but you need to refrigerate it once its been opened.
>
> Commercial salad dressings and acidified sauces are
> microbiologically safe. Manufacturers follow strict quality
> controls and diligently comply with FDA-mandated Good
> Manufacturing Practices in production of these commercial
> products. Commercial salad dressing and sauce products are also
> made with pasteurized eggs that are free of Salmonella and other
> pathogenic bacteria and further ensure the safety of these
> products. As such, these commercial products do not have the food
> safety risks associated with their homemade counterparts, which
> contain unpasteurized eggs. Homemade versions also may not
> contain sufficient quantities of food acids like vinegar (acetic
> acid) or lemon juice (citric acid) to kill harmful
> microorganisms.
> (http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~mow/chap1sal.html)
Bacteria don't have to be involved. Why do canned goods go bad in
months or years (depending on what food it is)? Why does unopened
cooking oil go bad in months? Why does expensive olive oil have a
longer shelf life?
They deteriorate chemically. When you make dressing, you add water,
acid, and air to olive oil. They speed the deterioration.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 15 2007 11:32 pm
From: "just joe"
>
>> look up the word 'grammar'. you could probably find a good book on
>> amazon.com
>
> Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
>
>
er, uh, um, skippy?? you already wrote that. i think you're missing a verb.
but, whatever. your attempts at insults are so pedestrian that i'm amused
rather than offended. try some of these:
http://b3ta.com/questions/insults/
they speak english, so if you need help with translations, you have my
addie.
to save on postage, when you order your dictionary and grammar book, get a
thesaurus (you may need to look that word up), and the autobiography of ben
franklin (now he was a man that could drop an insult) or something on the
rich history of the algonquin club; dorthy parker et al.
but, you've been poked with a fork and you're done.
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TOPIC: personal checks
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c66a055f62296a0a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 15 2007 11:17 pm
From: "Tockk"
<bob@coolgroups.com> wrote in message
news:1192511028.256497.144580@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> Can someone recommend a cheap place to re-order personal checks on the
> net?
Not really. Especially if all you're gonna do is come back to tell us all
about your spam group.
However, Sunday newspapers are usually full of free offers like that
(checks, balances, etc) and they give their website addresses on their
advertising. That's a good place to look.
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TOPIC: vacuum sealers or vacuum packagers
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/be6f2a6eae059fa6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 15 2007 11:24 pm
From: "Tockk"
<dhouston> wrote in message
news:inf1h3t2thj7nv6safc1c9iale6qmjfm5m@4ax.com...
> Just wondering if those vacuum sealers/packagers really work or should
> I say really preserve frozen food as they advertise? Anyone have
> experience with them?
I have one, and instead of using plastic bags, I use the plastic containers
(clear boxes). You put the stuff in the box, put the cover on, hook a
plastic hose from the vacuum to the box, pump out the air, turn a knob on
the box's lid, to seal, and that's it. Dunno how well it works -- I had
some stuff frozen in it, but the power company turned my electricity off,
and I had to toss out everything in the frige. Gotta try again, I guess.
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TOPIC: Did I buy the worst two Nikon cameras (or are they all this bad?)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3b49006a02b43efc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 15 2007 11:57 pm
From: Jeff
Jeanette Guire wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:54:59 +0100, BIC wrote:
>
>>you have just been unlucky...........or heavy handed.
>
>
> It's a VERY common problem BIC. Google for the Nikon coolpix battery door
> latch and you'll see many people have the same problem. For every one you
> find, there are hundreds who don't know about the usenet or the forums.
> Even Nikon's own forums are fraught with sorry sad little coolpix owners.
Or switch to Canon. Canon has had a substantial lead on digital
technology that the others have been playing catch up with for years.
And the ergonomics of Canon are pretty good. I'm *really* hard on
cameras and my Canon A95 is still ticking (so's my Rebel and elph). It's
had a *lot* of exposures clicked through it.
Jeff
>
> Look at the design in the photos of the notorious Nikon Coolpix 2100 and
> 3100 series cameras. You, like most others in this thread, will have to
> conclude the little flimsy plastic loop is bound to break under almost ANY
> circumstance.
>
> Did you actually look at the pictures?
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TOPIC: best price on 2 GB SD card?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3e1069e27c061244?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 16 2007 12:06 am
From: Jeff
turtlelover wrote:
> Dennis wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:10:43 -0700, James <jlinn@idirect.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 8, 8:42 pm, "OhioGuy" <n...@none.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anybody know of a great deal on SD cards? I need at least 2 of the
>>>> 2GB
>>>> variety to use in a couple of card readers I have laying around.
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> Another frugal hint - make sure your device can read 2GB SD cards.
>>> Many older card readers, digital cameras and PDAs can only read up to
>>> 1GB cards. I didn't know this until I read a sign at a local
>>> retailler. I then went to check my Palm Tungsten T3, and it will only
>>> take up to 1 GB.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, depending on what you want to use it for, pay attention to the
>> read/write speeds. Many of the cheap SD cards are pretty slow.
>>
>> Dennis (evil)
>
>
>
> I know what you mean about the older cameras. I have an Olympus 2020z
> that uses a _maximum_ 64MB card. The cards are nowhere to be found ...
I think a lot of that is in the card design. I don't know about SD, but
CF cards have the logic in them and not the camera. So no matter how
large a CF card will get, any camera that takes them will still see the
entire card (my old old elph that came with a 8MB CF card reads the 2GB,
no problem). Advertising tends to promote a products worst virtue in
hopes of covering that up.
Compact Flash, is the largest of memory sticks.
Smart Media, was the dumbest.
and Secure Digital may very well be the least secure as it can be read
by so many different devices.
Jeff
> for a reasonable price, anyway. I wouldn't expect retail locations to
> use valuable shelf space for "obsolete" (in their eyes) media; however,
> I would also hope that someone who has one for sale wouldn't expect big
> bucks for them.
>
>
> Cheers,
> T
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