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TOPIC: OT: Why I hate Geico ads
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 7:22 pm
From: Siskuwihane

On Jan 15, 1:26 pm, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com>
wrote:
> Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
>
> Here are examples of geico ads which I fucking hate because they are so
> fucking stupid:
>
> 1.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg-- this ad depicts the 50s
> or before when [obviously] there was no such thing as geico or their
> stinkin car insurance

Geico, incorporated in 1936 as Government Employees Insurance Company

As the Geico caveman would say, "Next time, do a little research".

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 7:36 pm
From: Daniel Carey

In article <478cfadd$0$4952$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:

> Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
>
> Here are examples of geico ads which I fucking hate because they are so
> fucking stupid:
>
> 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg -- this ad depicts the 50s
> or before when [obviously] there was no such thing as geico or their
> stinkin car insurance
>
> 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em-b0wQzQ-0 -- asshole celebrity
> "mashed potatoes woohoo!" Howd ya like some mashed potatoes up your
> stinky ass, you disheveled shithole?!
>
> There is also another geico ad that I hate with a passion which I wasn't
> able to find. It's a black and white ad depicting the old days when
> there was no internet. That ad talks about some guy who went poor and
> started hunting deer for food. It then shows that he somehow makes a lot
> of money. There is critic in the background who says "I was initially
> skeptical of this claim". This ad then show the main character going
> onto a computer [!!!!!!!] and the internet [what the fuck!!!!] and
> changing his car insurance to Geico. WTFuck is wrong with Geico, they
> were depicting a time when computers and internet were absent yet they
> show someone in that time going onto a PC and accessing the net! This is
> so fucking stupid and annoying! It is blatantly idiotic and pisses me
> off. I feel like burning those involved in producing that advertisement.
> I want to torch their skin until it blisters into white foam. Stupid
> assholish sick fucks deserve to burn in hell for the annoyance they cause.
>
> I'd rather watch their old cavemen ads for an hour than a second of the
> ads I mentioned above.
>
> I lay a curse on those geico fuckheads:
>
> In your next incarnation you'll all be satan's bitches!

TiVo, dude... TiVo.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 7:37 pm
From: Daniel Carey

In article <srhi-3D55FB.21490515012008@newsgroups.comcast.net>,
Shawn Hirn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote:

> In article <478cfadd$0$4952$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
>
> > Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
> >
> > Here are examples of geico ads which I fucking hate because they are so
> > fucking stupid:
>
> Change channels, hit the fast forward button, or turn off your TV.
> Problem solved.

TiVo.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 10:01 pm
From: TomAldrich@newshosting.com

On 15-Jan-2008, Daniel Carey <DanielFCarey@comcast.net> wrote:

> TiVo, dude... TiVo.

And for those of you with Satelite TV, it ain't gping to be TIVO soon.

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TOPIC: RodSpeed
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7846240150597272?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 7:31 pm
From: KarlMarx_MiddleClass_Ipod_HipHop

Rod-Man,

do you think that we will have a global meltdown any day now for stock
markets or do you think that the US government is scrambling to
prevent the machine from seizing up from lack of preventative
maintenance?

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TOPIC: temporary health insurance for a recent graduate
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 7:34 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Goomba38 <Goomba38@comcast.net> wrote
> h wrote

>>> As for never being sick, taking no medications and lack of any
>>> check-ups whatsoever..... can I ask how old you are? While it is
>>> nice to be smug about those things at 25, as one ages it becomes
>>> almost inevitable that you'll need a tune up or something tweaked.

>> I'm well into my 50s.

> LOL, well, not to burst your bubble but... being a health care
> provider I can say with a little bit of authority here that your time
> will come. You should be getting check ups once in a while at least.
> Many diseases, if caught early, are treatable and/or curable.

Not many, actually, just a few.

> Too many people felt fine up until they keeled over dead, or the disease had wreaked havoc on them to the degree that
> the "cure" is as bad as disease untreated.

You can certainly claim that any who do that is too many, but it isnt
that common to not get obvious symptoms before it gets that bad.

> But of course I understand the "ignorance is bliss" concept too. It just tends to bite ya in the butt down the road.

Not necessarily.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 7:38 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

P <test@test.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> I did not realize visiting the doctor typically once a year due
>>> to high temperature or cold can be considered very often.

>> Pointless bothering with a doctor for a cold unless you
>> need the doctor's visit to get the time off work etc.

> Yes, but if you have a viral fever(high temperature a visit does help).

Nope, hardly ever and you certainly dont get one of those every year.

>>> Well, I could have stayed at home, rested and probably could have recovered
>>> in some 3-4 days but going to the doctor helped me get better soon

>> Nope, not with a cold it doesnt.

> Depends on how severe it is

Nope.

> and mainly to ensure it is not a symptom of some illness.

The obvious way to check that is to see if it goes away as
colds always do and only bother with a doctor when it doesnt.

You certainly dont get those every year or anything like that either.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 8:33 pm
From: Goomba38

P wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:40:57 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
>>> I did not realize visiting the doctor typically once a year due
>>> to high temperature or cold can be considered very often.
>> Pointless bothering with a doctor for a cold unless you
>> need the doctor's visit to get the time off work etc.
>
> Yes, but if you have a viral fever(high temperature a visit does help).

What is your experience with treatments for viral illnesses?
>
>>> Well, I could have stayed at home, rested and probably could have recovered
>>> in some 3-4 days but going to the doctor helped me get better soon
>> Nope, not with a cold it doesnt.
>
> Depends on how severe it is and mainly to ensure it is not a symptom of
> some illness.

Usually cold symptoms are just symptoms of a cold. A pretty self
limiting illness for the most part.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 8:41 pm
From: Goomba38

Rod Speed wrote:
You should be getting check ups once in a while at least.
>> Many diseases, if caught early, are treatable and/or curable.
>
> Not many, actually, just a few.

Many. And of course limiting the damage of untreated disease can only
help down the road. Consider the progression of undiagnosed diabetes,
hypertension, cardiac disease, multiple types of cancers....
>
>> Too many people felt fine up until they keeled over dead, or the disease had wreaked havoc on them to the degree that
>> the "cure" is as bad as disease untreated.
>
> You can certainly claim that any who do that is too many, but it isnt
> that common to not get obvious symptoms before it gets that bad.

But a slowly progressing disease is often ignored and adapted to the
point where the patient doesn't get the sense of "something isn't quite
right" here
>
>> But of course I understand the "ignorance is bliss" concept too. It just tends to bite ya in the butt down the road.
>
> Not necessarily.
>
I've seen it all too frequently and commonly. Particularly with
undiagnosed diabetes or hypertension. VERY common.

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 9:21 pm
From: P

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:38:10 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

>and you certainly dont get one of those every year.

Off Topic, I just mentioned two reasons one may need to visit a doctor at
my age and did not claim them as the only reasons for every year. BTW, if
you have lived in a dorm you may catch such illnesses quickly from others.

>>>> Well, I could have stayed at home, rested and probably could have recovered
>>>> in some 3-4 days but going to the doctor helped me get better soon
>
>>> Nope, not with a cold it doesnt.
>
>> Depends on how severe it is
>
> Nope.

Well, if you live in a dorm sometimes you need to visit the doctor just to
convince others you are taking proper steps. The medicines can ease your
running nose and reduce your sneezing while you are in class.

>> and mainly to ensure it is not a symptom of some illness.
>
> The obvious way to check that is to see if it goes away as
> colds always do and only bother with a doctor when it doesnt.
>
> You certainly dont get those every year or anything like that either.

I never said that one gets them every year(though if you are living in a
dorm your chances are high). Just because I mentioned two reasons does not
mean I claimed that they were the only ones due to which I had to go to the
doctor every year. There can be a muscle spasm, food poisoning, minor car
accident(if you are traveling in someone else's car), back pain due to
wrong posture or many other factors due to which a person my age might
require to visit a doctor. Again, this is not a exhaustive list nor do I
mention these occur every year to someone of my age, but some reasons due
to which a person of my age may need to visit the doctor. Agreed, people at
my age fall in the lower risk for insurance companies, but there are some
liabilities associated with us also and people at my age might need to
visit the doctor typically once a year. Some more, some less.

The purpose of starting this thread was to get some good ideas(which I got,
thanks to all who replied). I appreciate your help, but please don't
misunderstand me.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 9:45 pm
From:
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"Goomba38" <Goomba38@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>h wrote:
>
>>> As for never being sick, taking no medications and lack of any check-ups
>>> whatsoever..... can I ask how old you are? While it is nice to be smug
>>> about those things at 25, as one ages it becomes almost inevitable that
>>> you'll need a tune up or something tweaked.
>>
>> I'm well into my 50s.
>
> LOL, well, not to burst your bubble but... being a health care provider I
> can say with a little bit of authority here that your time will come. You
> should be getting check ups once in a while at least. Many diseases, if
> caught early, are treatable and/or curable. Too many people felt fine up
> until they keeled over dead, or the disease had wreaked havoc on them to
> the degree that the "cure" is as bad as disease untreated.
> But of course I understand the "ignorance is bliss" concept too. It just
> tends to bite ya in the butt down the road.

I have a very different take on medical stuff. I don't take medications and
would not ever consider the treatment options available for diseases like
cancer (chemo, radiation, etc.) It's quite pointless to go to have checkups
because I wouldn't follow the doctor's advice if they found anything, nor
would I be interested in any further tests. I exercise 90 minutes a day,
every day, I maintain a healthy weight, and I eat no more than 30 grams of
carbs a day. I don't smoke and I rarely drink more than one glass of wine.
I'm healthier now in my 50s than I was in my 20s. It also helps that I never
had kids, so my body wasn't ravaged by breeding. All the women in my family
drop dead at 91 (really, all of them on both sides!) and we never see
doctors. It's not that I'm being smug or blissfully ignorant, I'm counting
on genetics and lifestyle. My mom's 88 and hasn't seen a doctor since she
had me.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 10:15 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Goomba38 <Goomba38@comcast.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> You should be getting check ups once in a while at least.
>>> Many diseases, if caught early, are treatable and/or curable.

>> Not many, actually, just a few.

> Many.

Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

> And of course limiting the damage of untreated disease can only help down the road.

Varys with the 'disease'

> Consider the progression of undiagnosed diabetes,
> hypertension, cardiac disease, multiple types of cancers....

Thats just 5, nothing like 'many'

And plenty of those wont be caught early enough to make a difference by 'checkups' anyway.

>>> Too many people felt fine up until they keeled over dead, or the disease had wreaked havoc on them to the degree
>>> that the "cure" is as bad as disease untreated.

>> You can certainly claim that any who do that is too many, but it isnt
>> that common to not get obvious symptoms before it gets that bad.

> But a slowly progressing disease is often ignored and adapted to the point where the patient doesn't get the sense of
> "something isn't quite right" here

Again, not that often.

>>> But of course I understand the "ignorance is bliss" concept too. It just tends to bite ya in the butt down the road.

>> Not necessarily.

> I've seen it all too frequently and commonly. Particularly with
> undiagnosed diabetes or hypertension. VERY common.

Nope, those do produce symptoms before you end up with fangs in your arse most of the time.

And 'checkups' dont necessarily get anything useful done that prevents fangs in your arse either.

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TOPIC: Most Frugal and Practical Pickup Truck?
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 7:49 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools

On Jan 15, 1:25 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am considering getting my next pickup truck...what is in your
> opinion the best candidate for a frugal and practical pickup truck?
>
> Thanks
>
> TMT

About that pickup I am looking for...here's one accessory that is
optional...

TMT

Watch what you put on trailer hitches By BOB LEWIS, Associated Press
Writer

It's one thing to dangle fuzzy dice from a rear view mirror, but
decorating a trailer hitch with a large pair of rubber testicles might
be a bit much in Virginia.

State Del. Lionel Spruill introduced a bill Tuesday to ban displaying
replicas of human genitalia on vehicles, calling it a safety issue
because it could distract other drivers.

Under his measure, displaying the ornamentation on a motor vehicle
would be a misdemeanor punishable by a maximum fine of $250.

He said the idea came from a constituent whose young daughter spotted
an example of the trail hitch adornment and asked her father to
explain it.

"'I didn't know what to tell her,'" Spruill said the constituent told
him before Spruill vowed to stop such displays.

"I said, 'Sir, I'm going to be a laughingstock, but I'm going to do
it,'" he said.

The Virginia General Assembly has some experience with offbeat bills.
Three years ago, it drew widespread attention with an unsuccessful
effort to outlaw baggy pants worn so low they expose underwear.

Spruill, 61, said the indignity of the "droopy drawers" debate
wouldn't deter him. He said he won't hesitate to bring a set of $24.95
trailer testicles with him for a legislative show-and-tell.

"I'm going to do it," Spruill told a handful of reporters after
Tuesday's House session adjourned. "I'm going to bring them out here
and show them to you till they tell me to stop."

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 7:56 pm
From: websurf1@cox.net

On Jan 15, 5:07 pm, ra...@vt.edu wrote:
> In misc.consumers.frugal-living Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Domestic pickups are pretty price competitive given the market.
> > As for the price competitiveness of domestic pickups, I am not sure on
> > that. Try finding an used domestic pickup in good shape at a
> > reasonable price...it takes years to find a good match with that
> > criteria.
>
> The thing to look for is 2WD and a stick shift. Nothing kills the
> resale value of a pickup like 2WD and stick shift. Most people
> don't really need 4WD and automatics are only good if you are
> going to be doing a lot of towing. Look for a used pickup with
> those 2 things and the prices will be well below average for the
> year and make. Oh, those 2 things also make the truck cheaper to
> maintain and get better fuel economy. Good luck.
>
> Bill Ranck
> Blacksburg, Va.

I've got a 2003 GMC Sonoma. 2WD and a stick ;<)

I bought it new after a looking at lots of trucks, getting turned of
by all the sales tactics. I got an excellent deal with no haggling.
I get 27 mpg; at 84,000 miles I am still on the original tires. In a
few months I'll need tires, front shocks, and a couple trivial items.

When I was searching for a truck, I knew exactly what I was after: 4
cyl, stick, white, the shorter extended cab (the kind without the full
extra seat), and no extras.

This has pretty much been the best vehicle I've had.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 8:56 pm
From: Gunner

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 01:54:56 GMT, Trevor Jones <t.o.jones@telus.net>
wrote:

>
> Mazda/Ford 2WD Standard trans, with a larger cab, if you carry stuff
>around that you are keener on keeping.
> It's not extra passenger space, as much as the trunk, behind the
>driver and passenger seats, but in front of the box. Sometimes doubles
>as weathertite cargo area.
> I put nearly 400 000 kilometers on an 86 B2000. Drove it like it was
>stolen, right up until I gave it away last year. It is still on the road.

If he is looking for a truck of that size..indeed. My Mazda B3000 has
440,000 MILES on it and still runs fine, just wont pass California
smog, so it gets a lower mileage engine this spring and then likely be
passed on the the daughter in law.

And its hauled more than 3000 lbs on many occasions, over the
Grapevine.

Gunner

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 9:30 pm
From: Gunner

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:56:55 -0800, Gunner
<gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 01:54:56 GMT, Trevor Jones <t.o.jones@telus.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> Mazda/Ford 2WD Standard trans, with a larger cab, if you carry stuff
>>around that you are keener on keeping.
>> It's not extra passenger space, as much as the trunk, behind the
>>driver and passenger seats, but in front of the box. Sometimes doubles
>>as weathertite cargo area.
>> I put nearly 400 000 kilometers on an 86 B2000. Drove it like it was
>>stolen, right up until I gave it away last year. It is still on the road.
>
>
>If he is looking for a truck of that size..indeed. My Mazda B3000 has
>440,000 MILES on it and still runs fine, just wont pass California
>smog, so it gets a lower mileage engine this spring and then likely be
>passed on the the daughter in law.
>
>And its hauled more than 3000 lbs on many occasions, over the
>Grapevine.
>
>Gunner

Though on second thought..Id get the B4000 Mazda/Ranger with the 4.0
engine in it.

I get 19mpg with my current Ranger with the 3.0 and automatic tranny.
Id not have bought an auto..but I couldnt beat the deal. Shrug

The B3000 (3.0) averaged about 20-21 with the 5 speed. So far..Ive
pulled just as heavy a load as the standard tranny with no problems.
But Ive got an aftermarket trany cooler too.

BTW...that big assed Ford F350 extended van with the 351, average
15mpg if I keep it around 55-60 miles an hour, even pulling a trailer
with 1500 lbs of stuff on it.

Im starting to think it should be rated at gallons per hour..as it
seems to use almost as much idling as it does driving.

I scrounged up a 3000 watt Xantrex inverter and have idled the truck
to keep the deep cycle charged, that runs the inverter

Runs drill motors, grinders, Sawzalls and so forth just hunky.

Gunner

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TOPIC: wholesale sport shoes,clothing,electronics in china www.fashion-sky.com
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 15 2008 8:17 pm
From: fashion-sky.002@hotmail.com

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US: 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5
UK: 2.5 3 3.5 4 4.5 5 5.5 6
EUR: 35.5 36 36.5 37.5 38 38.5 39 40

Kid's
US: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5 13 13.5
UK: 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5
EUR:17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 24.5 25 25.5 26 26.5 27 27.5 28 29 30 30.5
31