Sunday, April 20, 2008

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Today's topics:

* Fitness Training and Gym Workouts - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/18cf8b544f82f8c6?hl=en
* If you are looking to build a full wardrobe and you have a limited budget,
consider shopping in used clothing stores. Used clothing stores offer a
variety of clothing at affordable prices. You can shop for used clothing in
physical stores or online. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/475b1d3c063335ed?hl=en
* My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers - 3 messages, 3
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8258903de83b6619?hl=en
* Do you have a closet full of used clothes? If so you are like millions of
other people who have accumulated closets full of used clothing that they no
longer wear and full of children's clothes with their children no longer
living at home. If you love crafts, there are several ideas that you can do to
use up some of your used clothes. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3001f37c2e1638d5?hl=en
* So we have established that a luxury watch makes a good gift, but how much
is this going to set you back? Price doesn't really come into it if you value
the rest of your assets and recognise the potential long term mileage you
could get from your grateful partner. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d6d61c521fe772ea?hl=en
* Aside from being a very unique and exciting invite, it can also allow you to
set up what type of event will entail. With basic invitations it is hard to
fit in everything that will take place. Typically there is only room for the
time, date and location of the party. But on the unique invitation, there is
much more room to fit all of the details on the shirt. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bd5e633f602712f5?hl=en
* The rage is inititiated by the drivers - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8ec3161db9d48413?hl=en
* Terminix system vs Sentricon termite baiting system - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/481c60c43552dbec?hl=en
* Air Force 1 High Shoes Directory ( paypal accept ) ( www.good-saler.cn )Nike
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messages, 1 author
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messages, 1 author
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* Authentic Jordans Wholesale ( paypal accept ) ( www.good-saler.cn )Nike
Shoes Wholesale China ( paypal accept ) ( www.good-saler.cn ) - 1 messages, 1
author
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* new provider and newsgroups - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0682efd30a563855?hl=en
* How to collect money that my previous landlord owes me? - 3 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/549a7db649cc4504?hl=en
* Brand Watches Citizen Eco-Drive Stiletto Ladies Discount, Replica, Fake - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bd8dae4593ce1cf7?hl=en
* Earn Money With Out Investment. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7c8c65730c387948?hl=en
* Finding the right suit for a special occasion is surprisingly enjoyable. - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3ca9f7bb119e8fe0?hl=en
* As a professional worker, you know that safety is often the key between a
good job and a deadly job. Having the appropriate flame resistant work wear is
one way to keep it safe by staying out of hot water so to speak. There are
many styles, choices, and designs specifically designed to appeal to the
majority of reasons and whys a person may need such working attire. - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/83155b73c417fd89?hl=en
* . Prepare your Items - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7b7cad607daa9e89?hl=en
* Video on the internet - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0e9cecfbca3e014a?hl=en

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TOPIC: Fitness Training and Gym Workouts
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/18cf8b544f82f8c6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 2:47 pm
From: Al Bundy


On Apr 19, 4:35 pm, service0...@watchec.com wrote:
> Fitness Training and Gym Workouts
>
> At the gym, or during fitness training, buy sports clothing according
> to the type of exercises you will perform. For instance, wear pants
> that fit snugly around the legs if doing leg exercises, especially on
> an exercise bike or similar equipment.

Or...just wear whatever the hell you choose and have fun.


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TOPIC: If you are looking to build a full wardrobe and you have a limited
budget, consider shopping in used clothing stores. Used clothing stores offer
a variety of clothing at affordable prices. You can shop for used clothing in
physical stores or online.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/475b1d3c063335ed?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 2:50 pm
From: Al Bundy


service0...@watchec.com wrote:
> If you are looking to build a full wardrobe and you have a limited
> budget, consider shopping in used clothing stores. Used clothing
> stores offer a variety of clothing at affordable prices. You can shop
> for used clothing in physical stores or online.
>

Yea, you can just go to the Salvation Army Thrift Store where you can
try things on.
If you are handy you can pick up a used sewing machine and make minor
repairs.


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TOPIC: My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8258903de83b6619?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 2:58 pm
From: Marissa Payton


Ignoramus6369 wrote:

> On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:29:58 GMT, Mike Dobony <sword@notasarian-host.net> wrote:
> >
> > "Ignoramus6369" <ignoramus6369@NOSPAM.6369.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:j7KdnevMNrNPe9jbnZ2dnUVZ_oSnnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >> It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood and I saw
> >> them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete driveway, his is
> >> asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do something else, the next
> >> thing I know is that my neighbor's asphalt driveway was sprayed with
> >> some tar like substance. So I went to talk to see what happened.
> >>
> >> He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain price
> >> ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted
> >> all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they
> >> expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with
> >> the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his
> >> driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid extra
> >> $50 and they finished the work.
> >>
> >> So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work to any
> >> "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that due to
> >> poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand extra $50 to
> >> finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these lousy
> >> circumstances?
> >>
> >> i
> >
> > Poor judgment in the first place. Second, having work done without a signed
> > contract. Third, not taking their license number and calling the police.
> >
> >
>
> Would you think that the police would have any interest?

In my town soliciting door to door requires a permit or notificiation to the police
station. If your neighbor reported them for going door to door, the police would
check if they have met the requirements. If not, our police would be more than
happy to stop by and have have a chat.

If an actual scam or fraud is reported, they will start the criminal process. They
are also happy to do a full commercial vehicle inspection as well, never know what
those can turn up.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 4:13 pm
From: "Edward Hennessey"


Marissa Payton wrote:
> Ignoramus6369 wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:29:58 GMT, Mike Dobony
>> <sword@notasarian-host.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Ignoramus6369" <ignoramus6369@NOSPAM.6369.invalid> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:j7KdnevMNrNPe9jbnZ2dnUVZ_oSnnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> It happened yesterday. A truck cruised in our neighborhood
>>>> and I
>>>> saw them stop by our neighbor's house (we have a concrete
>>>> driveway, his is asphalt) and they talked. Then I went to do
>>>> something else, the next thing I know is that my neighbor's
>>>> asphalt driveway was sprayed with some tar like substance. So
>>>> I
>>>> went to talk to see what happened.
>>>>
>>>> He said that he was scammed: they first agreed on a certain
>>>> price
>>>> ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway,
>>>> then
>>>> acted all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more
>>>> coating
>>>> than they expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the
>>>> work.
>>>> I guess with the implication that if he did not pay, they
>>>> would
>>>> drive off with his driveway half sprayed looking really
>>>> stupid.
>>>> So, he said he paid extra $50 and they finished the work.
>>>>
>>>> So. I am aware that the general wisdom says do not give work
>>>> to any
>>>> "drive by" people. But I would like to know, let's say that
>>>> due to
>>>> poor judgment, it happened to me and these artists demand
>>>> extra
>>>> $50 to finish. What would be a sensible thing to do in these
>>>> lousy
>>>> circumstances?
>>>>
>>>> i
>>>
>>> Poor judgment in the first place. Second, having work done
>>> without
>>> a signed contract. Third, not taking their license number and
>>> calling the police.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Would you think that the police would have any interest?
>
> In my town soliciting door to door requires a permit or
> notificiation
> to the police station. If your neighbor reported them for going
> door
> to door, the police would check if they have met the
> requirements.
> If not, our police would be more than happy to stop by and have
> have
> a chat.
>
> If an actual scam or fraud is reported, they will start the
> criminal
> process. They are also happy to do a full commercial vehicle
> inspection as well, never know what those can turn up.

Though it would be wrong to accuse anyone without evidence this is
a species of fraud characteristic of an American group called "The
Irish
Travelers" which operates in the Eastern and Southern part of the
country.
There was a very interesting documentary about them on the box
some
years ago.

Their itinerant and elusive modus operandi has made legal action
against
them very difficult.

Regards,

Edward Hennessey


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 4:26 pm
From: George Grapman


Three simple solutions:

Ask for their contractors license and immediately verify it. A
legitimate firm will be glad to oblige.

While you are asking for than information write down the license plate
on the truck.

Pay by credit card.



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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 2:58 pm
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TOPIC: So we have established that a luxury watch makes a good gift, but how
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value the rest of your assets and recognise the potential long term mileage
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http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d6d61c521fe772ea?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 2:58 pm
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TOPIC: The rage is inititiated by the drivers
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8ec3161db9d48413?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 3:14 pm
From: ComandanteBanana


On Apr 20, 5:46 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> Terryc <newsfourspam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote
> >>>>> ComandanteBanana wrote
> >>>>>> The lions control the wealth and the destiny of the jungle...
> >>>>> Have the elephants stopped laughing yet?
> >>>> Lions dont even live in jungles.
> >>> They do.
> >> Nope.
> >>> They are smaller, and live in the equatorial of Africa.
> >> Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.
> > Your knowledge of the jungle doesn't extend beyond American roads... ;)
>
> So stupid it cant even manage to work out that I dont actually use american roads.

There you'd have needed the best survival skills. After that, you
could sleep in the cage with the lion.

>
> > Tracking Forest Elephants
> > The jungles of central Africa are home to the forest elephant.
> > Unlike their better-known cousins, the African elephants of the
> > open savannahs, forest elephants are adapted to living in dense
> > woodlands. They have straight tusks, for instance, since curved
> > ones might get caught in vines and brush. And they tend to be
> > smaller and stockier than savannah elephants.
> >http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/deepjungle/episode1_blake.html
>
> So stupid that it cant even work out the difference between a lion and an elephant.

And so stupid that the only animal that doesn't belong in the jungle
is the lion.

But still they call him the King of the Jungle.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 3:51 pm
From: ComandanteBanana


One of the problems we've got is that everybody is armed and
dangerous. Nowadays the good-ol'-fashioned finger is not enough. Some
carry a gun, and some simply use their vehicles as the weapon. What's
a cyclist to do in such a jungle? I'm going to write a book, "Monkey
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Road rage runs rampant
on Bay Area highways

...

For whatever reason, one's genitalia grow exponentially while moving
at 40 mph in a steel and aluminum cage. Being at the helm of a 2-ton
machine makes people feel powerful, I would assume, leading to extreme
reactions from otherwise rational people.

Unfortunately, those extreme reactions are becoming more deadly.

As reported by the San Francisco Chronicle, a man driving on
Interstate Highway 280 was shot from a passing car. The man who died,
Luis Solari, died in front of his kids in the car. His offense: He cut
someone off.

The worst part is that this wasn't the first on Bay Area freeways this
month.

A woman was shot and killed April 3 on Interstate Highway 80 near
Pinole, and a man was shot along the same stretch of freeway April 1.
An arrest has been made in the former incident.

A gun is unnecessary, and says a lot about violence in our society.
Few problems, especially ones relating to cars, have ever been solved
by use of a gun. Words, even hand gestures, are better answers to the
whole problem. No one gets hurt with any of those.

Even fisticuffs are better. Bruises go away over time.

But expressing one's disgust at other people's driving by shooting a
gun at them is revealing because it's solving the problem of anger
with violence. Those who could angrily waive guns at you from passing
automobiles and potentially use them, may be showing their small
children in the back seats how not to act.

Until this point, the worst I got for cutting someone off was the
finger, not a bullet in the chest.

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 4:46 pm
From: Myal


ComandanteBanana wrote:
> One of the problems we've got is that everybody is armed and
> dangerous. Nowadays the good-ol'-fashioned finger is not enough. Some
> carry a gun, and some simply use their vehicles as the weapon. What's
> a cyclist to do in such a jungle? I'm going to write a book, "Monkey
> survival skills for the cyclist." First advice...
>
> http://www.zazzle.com/donquijote1954/product/235149274811492050
>
>
> Road rage runs rampant
> on Bay Area highways
>
> ...
>
> For whatever reason, one's genitalia grow exponentially while moving
> at 40 mph in a steel and aluminum cage. Being at the helm of a 2-ton
> machine makes people feel powerful, I would assume, leading to extreme
> reactions from otherwise rational people.
>
> Unfortunately, those extreme reactions are becoming more deadly.
>
> As reported by the San Francisco Chronicle, a man driving on
> Interstate Highway 280 was shot from a passing car. The man who died,
> Luis Solari, died in front of his kids in the car. His offense: He cut
> someone off.
>
> The worst part is that this wasn't the first on Bay Area freeways this
> month.
>
> A woman was shot and killed April 3 on Interstate Highway 80 near
> Pinole, and a man was shot along the same stretch of freeway April 1.
> An arrest has been made in the former incident.
>
> A gun is unnecessary, and says a lot about violence in our society.
> Few problems, especially ones relating to cars, have ever been solved
> by use of a gun. Words, even hand gestures, are better answers to the
> whole problem. No one gets hurt with any of those.
>
> Even fisticuffs are better. Bruises go away over time.
>
> But expressing one's disgust at other people's driving by shooting a
> gun at them is revealing because it's solving the problem of anger
> with violence. Those who could angrily waive guns at you from passing
> automobiles and potentially use them, may be showing their small
> children in the back seats how not to act.
>
> Until this point, the worst I got for cutting someone off was the
> finger, not a bullet in the chest.
>
> http://media.www.thespartandaily.com/media/storage/paper852/news/2008/04/14/Opinion/Road-Rage.Runs.Rampant.On.Bay.Area.Highways-3321714.shtml
>


the land of the free people got rights to carry guns

if they are gunna carry , they are gunna use them ... simple as that ...


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TOPIC: Terminix system vs Sentricon termite baiting system
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 3:14 pm
From: "Chloe"


"dpb" <none@non.net> wrote in message news:fufoj7$l57$2@aioe.org...
> Walter Cohen wrote:
>> Well, thanks to all for your responses.
>> As my termite problem did not get any better in the interim, probably got
>> worse if you ask me, I went with a local operator licensed for the
>> Sentricon system. They are to install it in the upcoming week and
>> monitor for the next 2 years.
>>
> --
>
> What I know of Sentricon is essentially what I learned during this
> thread -- I had heard of it previously but that was about it.
>
> You didn't say anything I saw about what your actual termite problem is,
> but from what I did see I'd think if you have an actual infestation
> Sentricon alone wouldn't be the optimum action.

Yeah, if there's an infestation you need to cut off their supply of water,
remove all wood that's already been infested (termites along with it), and
then create an effective barrier that'll prevent them from coming back. When
you say the company you hired is going to "monitor," you might want to check
into exactly what that means.



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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 6:11 pm
From: "nobody >"


John wrote:
> Kenny wrote:
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>> For downloading binaries you'll need something other than OE. I'm
>> using Newsbin Pro but there aoters like Forte Agent.
>>
>>
>> "johannes" <johs@sizef4467866445itter.com> wrote in message
>> news:480B5D94.985C14B3@sizef4467866445itter.com...
>>>
>>> johngood_____ wrote:
>>>> In looking around for another ISP, I've found one that I think that
>>>> I might
>>>> sign up with. But they tell me that they do not provide access to
>>>> Newsgroup
>>>> via Outlook Express.
>>> Although there are loads of different e-mail clients, many of them
>>> free and
>>> Outlook Express is not everybody's cuppa, OE is fairly standard and
>>> commonly
>>> used. Sounds to me like some misunderstanding of what the ISP has
>>> told you.
>>> I can't see why they should object to Outlook Express in particular.
>>> Here, I'm using Netscape Messenger.
>
> OE downloads binaries alright.

OE doesn't do yEnc decodes.


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TOPIC: How to collect money that my previous landlord owes me?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 6:23 pm
From: mmiths185@yahoo.com


My previous landlord always find reasons (such as dirty carpet or
bathroom tub) to retain the security deposit from almost all tenants.
They did that to me too after I moved out their apartment last year.
Sorry, but they picked the wrong person. I fought against it and filed
small claim in the local district court and won the case. The court
ruled that the landlord must return all my security deposit
immediately. However, the small court's ruling does not have binding
effect. The landlord has been still ignoring the court ruling so far.
So how do I get my money back? What is a good collection agency that
is friendly to individuals and that charges minimum fees and
percentage of the collected? Also, how do I report it to the credit
agency on landlord's poor credit? Thanks.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 6:31 pm
From: George Grapman


mmiths185@yahoo.com wrote:
> My previous landlord always find reasons (such as dirty carpet or
> bathroom tub) to retain the security deposit from almost all tenants.
> They did that to me too after I moved out their apartment last year.
> Sorry, but they picked the wrong person. I fought against it and filed
> small claim in the local district court and won the case. The court
> ruled that the landlord must return all my security deposit
> immediately. However, the small court's ruling does not have binding
> effect. The landlord has been still ignoring the court ruling so far.
> So how do I get my money back? What is a good collection agency that
> is friendly to individuals and that charges minimum fees and
> percentage of the collected? Also, how do I report it to the credit
> agency on landlord's poor credit? Thanks.

The laws vary from state to state.I think you misunderstood what
happened. The decision is binding but unless he willingly pays you need
to take additional steps. In California the Small Claims Courts have
advisers who will show you how to get the money.
A collection agency takes the least effort but they will take a hefty
percentage as a fee. If you are willing to put in more time find out how
to get a lien against either his property, car or bank account. I
believe the latter is the easiest.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 6:42 pm
From: George Grapman


Reminds me of a 12 unit building that I lived in. Several neighbors
paid to have their places cleaned and still got nothing or a partial
refund. One neighbor simply packed up what he wanted and left the rest
behind. A few years later I did the same. I had been there ten years and
they had a $250 deposit so I figured $25 a year.
Neither of us ever heard a word as due to rent control exempting
vacant units they were happy to see us go and they moved very quickly. I
had a two week overlap between my old and new places which made for a
leisurely moves. When I moved everything out a friend asked me if one of
her friends could stay there for a few days. I agreed but said he should
be completely out of there on the morning of the first. The poor guy
went out for breakfast before returning to pack his belongings. He
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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: As a professional worker, you know that safety is often the key between
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 7:39 pm
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 8:03 pm
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 8:14 pm
From: Gordon


"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in news:66q2bhF2jmmfoU1
@mid.individual.net:

> Gordon <gonzo@alltomyself.com> wrote:
>
>> Besides u-tube.
>> I recently let my cable TV get disconnected.
>> Good riddence to that waste of $50.00 per month.
>> THe problem is, over the air reception sux.
>
> It doesnt if you use digital TV.

Gee Rod, thanks for that piece of trivia. I'll just
go out and plop down a couple of thou for a new DTV.

>
>> Now, I know that I can get network programming at their web
>> sites, some are better than others. THere is also Hulu.com.
>> Also Cartoon network, Disney, and Nick have video feeds.
>
>> But does anyone know where there is a site that
>> has a comprehensive feed of video programing
>> simular to what can be found on cable TV.
>
> No such animal.

Actually it does and it's called iptv.
It's a bit obscure right now, but it's out there.

>
> You dont say what you would like to watch, but most of what
> appears on cable TV can be downloaded using torrents etc.
> Not the more obscure stuff tho.

Ah yeah, I'm aware of torents and I avoid them like the
plauge. They are like unprotected sex. A very good way to
get a virus.

>
>
>

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