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* After you have taken your closet inventory and compared it to the above
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* The Superleggera or J12 H2004, is a chronograph timepiece which has been
certified as accurate by the COSC. It has a distinguished hi-tech black case
which is made of ceramic. What makes the H2004 attractive to the eye is the
black rubber bracelet and matte finish. The Superleggera is considered an
elegant timepiece with artistic style. There is a brushed aluminum version of
the Superleggera known as the H1624 series. - 1 messages, 1 author
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* As a professional worker, you know that safety is often the key between a
good job and a deadly job. Having the appropriate flame resistant work wear is
one way to keep it safe by staying out of hot water so to speak. There are
many styles, choices, and designs specifically designed to appeal to the
majority of reasons and whys a person may need such working attire. - 1
messages, 1 author
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* Remember that brown pairs are best suited to tan, greens, beige, brown and
other earth tones that are darker in color. Tan colored shoes match well with
lighter tan, white, beige, blue and other earth tones that are lighter. Black
shoes look good when matched with gray, black or navy pants. Burgundy,
meanwhile, is light brown, khaki, gray or blue's perfect match. - 1 messages,
1 author
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 9:55 am
From: johannes

Kenny wrote:
>
> I dropped Wanadoo some time ago because they dropped their newsserver.
> Signed up with Madasafish and happy with them so far. I have an "up to
> 8meg" speed and a 20Gb monthly allowance for £17.99. That's split 10Gb news
> and 10Gb internet.
> For downloading binaries you'll need something other than OE. I'm using
> Newsbin Pro but there aoters like Forte Agent.

Madasafish was my first ISP many years ago (dial-up). It was OK for a while,
but when sour when they installed new user accounts software which was unable
to recognise my old account; just incompetent system upgrade. So I went to
Surfanytime, name sounds good, but they got stroppy about users taken the
name at face value! Surfanytime didn't mean surf anytime. So on I went to
Tesco broadband with 1Mb. But Tesco lied to me when they told me that I
could not upgrade to 2Mb because of my local exchange. I jumped ship to
ADSL24 which gave me 8Mb (same local exchange) and huge download allowance.
So far so good.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 10:34 am
From: mcheu

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:30:10 GMT, "johngood_____"
<void@voidacious.net> wrote:

>In looking around for another ISP, I've found one that I think that I might
>sign up with. But they tell me that they do not provide access to Newsgroup
>via Outlook Express.

Does this mean that they don't provide NNTP access or that they just
don't support Outlook Express? If they do provide NNTP groups
access, then you can set up Outlook yourself. You just need for them
to give you the address for the NNTP/Usenet server. Just don't expect
them to answer any support questions about it.

>
>Since I want to regularly access Newsgroups and don't want the inconvenience
>of accessing Newsgroups through Google; is there a reasonably priced and
>easy way for me to get to the Newsgroups using this new provider please. I
>phoned up the technical line and they said to use RSS feeds, I did a search
>on this but it doesn't seem to me to connect in any way with Newsgroups as
>far as I can see. Thanks for any advice.

If your chosen ISP doesn't provide an NNTP feed, the cheapest option
other than finding another ISP might be a Teranews 'free' account --
they charge a 3.95 setup fee, so it's not totally free anymore and
it's limited to 50megs of transfer a day. So long as you don't read
a lot of groups or hit the binary groups, that should be ok, but keep
an eye on it, as they want users to pay for overages. They charge a
monthly fee for their premium accounts, which allow more transfer, and
probably have better retention.

http://www.teranews.com/

Giganews is another option for a paid NNTP server.

http://www.giganews.com

The big advantage to going with an outside paid NNTP feed is that they
tend to be more complete, with longer retention periods and faster
download speeds. The NNTP servers offered by ISPs tend to be
throttled (ie. slower) and have shorter retention periods to disuade
people from using the binary groups. However, in the long run, if
those aren't issues for you, finding another ISP that includes an NNTP
feed in the subscription service is going to be a lot cheaper.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 10:36 am
From: "Bob Eager"

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:49:48 UTC, George <nospam@please.com> wrote:

> Bob Eager wrote:
> > What do you mean 'directly'? You still need to find a server...
>
> Many years ago ISP's used newsgroups servers as a repository within the
> Usenet system. Individual users read from and post messages to a local
> server operated by their ISP. The servers then exchanged the messages
> between other servers, so that they were available to readers beyond the
> original server. Most ISP's do not run those servers anymore, so you
> must access newsgroups servers directly using whatever client you wish.

I'm perfectly aware of how it works; I was using newsgroups in 1982.

It didn't sound as if you did; you implied direct access to the
newsgroup, as if it lived in one place. That's all.
--
[ 7'ism - a condition by which the sufferer experiences an inability
to give concise answers, express reasoned argument or opinion.
Usually accompanied by silly noises and gestures - incurable, early
euthanasia recommended. ]

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 10:48 am
From: "John"

Kenny wrote:
> I dropped Wanadoo some time ago because they dropped their newsserver.
> Signed up with Madasafish and happy with them so far. I have an "up
> to 8meg" speed and a 20Gb monthly allowance for £17.99. That's split
> 10Gb news and 10Gb internet.
> For downloading binaries you'll need something other than OE. I'm
> using Newsbin Pro but there aoters like Forte Agent.
>
>
> "johannes" <johs@sizef4467866445itter.com> wrote in message
> news:480B5D94.985C14B3@sizef4467866445itter.com...
>>
>>
>> johngood_____ wrote:
>>>
>>> In looking around for another ISP, I've found one that I think that
>>> I might
>>> sign up with. But they tell me that they do not provide access to
>>> Newsgroup
>>> via Outlook Express.
>>
>> Although there are loads of different e-mail clients, many of them
>> free and
>> Outlook Express is not everybody's cuppa, OE is fairly standard and
>> commonly
>> used. Sounds to me like some misunderstanding of what the ISP has
>> told you.
>> I can't see why they should object to Outlook Express in particular.
>> Here, I'm using Netscape Messenger.

OE downloads binaries alright.

John

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 11:06 am
From: thanatoid

"johngood_____" <void@voidacious.net> wrote in
news:SrIOj.93844$5i5.30234@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net:

> In looking around for another ISP, I've found one that I
> think that I might sign up with. But they tell me that they
> do not provide access to Newsgroup via Outlook Express.
>
> Since I want to regularly access Newsgroups and don't want
> the inconvenience of accessing Newsgroups through Google;
> is there a reasonably priced and easy way for me to get to
> the Newsgroups using this new provider please. I phoned up
> the technical line and they said to use RSS feeds, I did a
> search on this but it doesn't seem to me to connect in any
> way with Newsgroups as far as I can see. Thanks for any
> advice.

Frankly, I wasn't sure if you weren't having us all on, since
the statement above is so full of confusion and misinformation
that I thought you were a troll.

All Internet Surveillance Providers used to offer Usenet access
as part of the basic package, MANY MOONS ago. As a smaller and
smaller /percentage/ of internet users access the Usenet, many
have dropped that service and others will continue to do so.
Those that still provide it do a lousy job with limited groups,
low retention, and no service.

ANY computer with a newsreader program can access ANY Usenet
server in the world, it's just like visiting a web site
anywhere. I use www.usenetrocket.com which has a 6GB/$7.50 (for
TEN years) pay-as-you-go plan. Whenever you need more, you buy
more. If you don't access their server for three months, it
costs you nothing. Retention is 2-3 months plus depending on
groups, more than enough for anyone IMO.

If you are not interested in binaries, you just might be able to
get 10 years of Usenet for $7.50. The service is second to none
since it's a small operation by a person who cares about his
customers. Try getting ANY service from some of the "big"
premium providers.

Xnews is an excellent though slightly complicated free
newsreader. GrabIt is a less excellent but super-simple free
newsreader - it's more of a binary grabber than a post-oriented
program, but you CAN post with it, and needless to say, read
text as well.

--
Of course, it is no easy matter to be polite; in so far, I mean,
as it requires us to show great respect for everybody, whereas
most people deserve none at all; and again in so far as it
demands that we should feign the most lively interest in people,
when we must be very glad that we have nothing to do with them.

- Arthur Schopenhauer

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