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TOPIC: Should I buy a gas gussler?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 19 2008 11:51 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote
> clams_casino wrote
>> Lou wrote

>>> And really, how/when you pay for it is not the point - almost
>>> anything you buy, the value drops precipitously as you leave the store or the first time you use it. Visit just
>>> about any yard
>>> sale. There may be more dollars invovled when the item under
>>> consideration is a car, but the principle is the same.

> Latest bargain: A Garmin e-Map GPS for $1.00. Not fully up to date
> as far as highways go, but good enough to tell you where you are. It
> can be updated, but I'd need to buy a $15 cable and a $90 CD to do that.

Nope, just the cable, and its a lot cheaper than that.

>> Certainly a used car doesn't lose value when it's driven off the lot.........

> Certainly it does. You think the dealer will buy it back from you for
> what you paid? You think somebody else is willing to buy it from you for what you paid? Then why didn't they buy it
> before you did?

They were too stupid to be able to find it at that price.

> OTOH, long ago I bought a 1950 Chevy for $50 and sold it a year later
> for $50 to a sailor on shore leave. I think I had to change a freeze
> plug and a fender but everything else worked OK. Well, except for the
> fact that I had to start it by turning the key on and then jamming a
> steel bar between the terminals on the starting solenoid, which was
> simpler at the time (8 months pregnant) than replacing the solenoid.

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TOPIC: sealant around steel shed
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 12:09 am
From: terryc

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:54:28 +0100, john hamilton wrote:

> Have just erected a yardmaster tin shed. I need to put a 'sealant' around
> the edge of the steel frame base where it sits on the concrete foundation,
> to prevent water traveling in under the frame.

Guttering?
Just be awae that any sealant onto concrete will eventually lift and llow
the water to flow underneath it. If you concrete slab is bigger than your
shed, it is inevitable.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 2:33 am
From: "fang"

terryc <newssixspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote
> john hamilton wrote

>> Have just erected a yardmaster tin shed. I need to put a 'sealant'
>> around the edge of the steel frame base where it sits on the
>> concrete foundation, to prevent water traveling in under the frame.

> Guttering?

> Just be awae that any sealant onto concrete will
> eventually lift and llow the water to flow underneath it.

Nope, silicone wont. Mastic wont either.

> If you concrete slab is bigger than your shed, it is inevitable.

Wrong, as always.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 5:29 am
From: zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS)

In article <AuCdnW5RvOVq4zbVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2>, gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
>In article <g8dqn7$3sq$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
>john hamilton <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>Have just erected a yardmaster tin shed. I need to put a 'sealant' around
>>the edge of the steel frame base where it sits on the concrete foundation,
>>to prevent water traveling in under the frame.
>
>>I normally get things like sealants from Wickes or Screwfix, but there are a
>>bewildering array of different sealants available. Would anyone recommend
>>which would be the one to use in this particular application please?
>
>Clear silicone caulk should work fine.

I have not seen silicone resist moisture and steel will rust under silicone.

greg

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TOPIC: DISGUSTING JEWISH PROPAGANDA VIDEO ABOUT IMMIGRATION
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 4:04 am
From: wismel@yahoo.com

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:34:06 -0700 (PDT), jimj122680@yahoo.com wrote:

>This short video, put out by the ADL (Anti Defamation League, a jew
>run organization) will make anyone who watches it vomit.
>So let's see.... millions upon millions of illegal immigrants have
>come into the USA (mostly from Mexico) over the past three decades.
>Americans are understandably angry, pissed off, and even hateful of
>this blatant violation of our laws, sovereignty, etc. But the ADL
>basically says, "how dare you object to these 'immigrants' coming into
>the USA" (they call them "immigrants" but we all know they are illegal
>immigrants). So I guess the ADL just wants Americans to "take it" and
>keep our mouths shut.
>The purpose of this video is to make people who object to illegal
>immigration feel like bad, evil, horrifying human beings; it's purpose
>is to shun them and tag them with the term "racist", to blemish their
>psyche, make them feel dirty and just plain rotten... to cause them to
>SUBMIT to the ongoing invasion of this country.
>
>American's side to this story is never considered... never are
>Americans asked, "Why are you angry about illegal immigration?".
>Instead, the ADL focuses exclusively on the "hate"....... as if "hate"
>and "anger" occurs in a vacuum (which it never does).
>
>Jews want non Jewish whites to become a minority in the United States
>more than I want to win the California Lottery. That has always been
>a key goal of organized Jewry in the USA, and to a greater extent,
>throughout the Western white world.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLfrFMe4bZ8

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TOPIC: Rue du Commerce (rueducommerce.fr)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 4:10 am
From: jdailey

LIVRAISON = NULLE !!!

J'attends toujours un produit de Rue de Commerce pour lequel la date
de livraison "au plus tard" est dépassée depuis 3 jours.
J'avais pris l'option Chronopost pour l'avoir plus rapidement - GROSSE
ERREUR ! D'abord le colis à été expédié dans un autre département. RDC
à réinitilaisé un envoi le lendemain en me disant que je recevrais un
mail de confirmation - je n'ai jamais reçu le mail.

En téléphonant à Chronopost, pour le 2e essai d'envoi, ils ont dit
qu'ils n'ont pas trouvé l'adresse et ont ramené le colis - alors que
le livreur avait bien mon numéro de téléphone il n'a pas essayé de me
joindre. Je leur demande donc de me le livrer sur mon lieu de travail,
comme visiblement ils sont plus apt à trouver des bureaux que des
résidences. Chronopost me dit qu'ils peuvent le faire à condition que
RDC leur donne l'autorisation. Je demande donc à RDC de faire le
necéssaire et le service client m'a racroché au nez ! Il me semble que
RDC qui était autrefois une commerce fiable est en train de se
dégrader. Vu les remarques sur les fautes de français dans les
correspondances qu'un autre a signalé dans cette discussion je
supçonne que RDC commence à délocaliser le service client dans un pays
du tiers monde, comme c'est bien à la mode actuellement.

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TOPIC: Homemade Cleaner?
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 4:00 am
From: Walter

hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote in
news:cccna4dl212avdgq9800ei058aql65a0fb@4ax.com:

> Often, ammonia, vinegar, baking soda, salt, rubbing alcohol,
> hydrogen peroxide, and wood ashes are all you need in your kit
> of cleaners. To knock it up a few notches, buy a container of
> TSP, and maybe some muriatic acid if you are cleaning tiles.

TSP great and so is hydrogen peroxide.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 5:12 am
From: Dee

Pringles CheezUms <nowhere@nohow.com> wrote in
news:9p4na49p7traq7tkfv1a49u6rsla34an0e@4ax.com:

> Is there a homemade cleaner that is as effective as (but cheaper
> than) a commercial general-purpose cleaner?
>
> If not, what is the most effective commercial cleaner? We've
> always used 409 and have been reasonably happy with it, but if
> there's something more effective I'm open to switching. That could
> include something you could get at a warehouse or cleaning supply
> house too. I know Sams has commercial cleaners but have never
> tried them. Can anybody get heavy-duty professional stuff? Anybody
> in the business? What do you use?
>
> Thanks for the help!

For most general cleaning tasks I use Dr. Bronner's liquid soap.
It's very concentrated so a bottle lasts a long time. I use about
1/2 tsp. to 20 oz. of water (that's the size of my spray bottle).

Another cleaner I use occasionally is equal parts alcohol and water.
It works well on glass, windows, and countertops. Don't use it on
painted surfaces, though, as it will remove latex paint.

For my kitchen vinyl floor, I use a mixture of water, ammonia, and
vinegar.

The only area that I have trouble with is the stovetop. I scrub it
with Bon Ami but the cooked-on grease is pretty tenacious. Anyone
have any suggestions for that?

Dee

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 5:57 am
From: clams_casino

Dee wrote:

>
>The only area that I have trouble with is the stovetop. I scrub it
>with Bon Ami but the cooked-on grease is pretty tenacious. Anyone
>have any suggestions for that?
>
>Dee
>
>

Haven't tried it in that application, but an orange-oil based product
(Goo Gone being an example) may be a solution. It's an excellent
degreaser (keep it off your hands for the same reason) plus it dissolves
sticky adhesives (and in a similar manner can adversely affect plastic
surfaces). Although the orange oil products dissolve in water, a quick
rinse with some alcohol on a paper towel should remove the residual
orange oil. Residual orange can leave a sticky residue & collect dirt
from the air. Keep in mind that pure orange oil has a low flash point -
can be flammable.

I'd apply it first to a paper towel rather than spraying it or pouring
it onto the stove top. Best not used near an open flame or hot burner,
even when diluted with water. I wouldn't use it on an ongoing basis,
but it could be useful used occasionally. When I worked in an adhesives
laboratory with stainless steel bench tops, it would bring a quick
shine, removing all grease, dirt & adhesives quite easily.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 5:59 am
From: Dee

clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote in
news:8xUqk.832$Ks1.103@newsfe02.iad:

> Dee wrote:
>
>>
>>The only area that I have trouble with is the stovetop. I scrub
>>it with Bon Ami but the cooked-on grease is pretty tenacious.
>>Anyone have any suggestions for that?
>>
>>Dee
>>
>>
>
> Haven't tried it in that application, but an orange-oil based
> product (Goo Gone being an example) may be a solution. It's an
> excellent degreaser (keep it off your hands for the same reason)
> plus it dissolves sticky adhesives (and in a similar manner can
> adversely affect plastic surfaces). Although the orange oil
> products dissolve in water, a quick rinse with some alcohol on a
> paper towel should remove the residual orange oil. Residual
> orange can leave a sticky residue & collect dirt from the air.
> Keep in mind that pure orange oil has a low flash point - can be
> flammable.
>
> I'd apply it first to a paper towel rather than spraying it or
> pouring it onto the stove top. Best not used near an open flame
> or hot burner, even when diluted with water. I wouldn't use it on
> an ongoing basis, but it could be useful used occasionally. When
> I worked in an adhesives laboratory with stainless steel bench
> tops, it would bring a quick shine, removing all grease, dirt &
> adhesives quite easily.

Thanks, clams. I have a bottle of Goo Gone already so I will give it
a try on the stovetop.

Dee

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 8:21 am
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:12:33 +0000, Dee <d@d.d> wrote:

>The only area that I have trouble with is the stovetop. I scrub it
>with Bon Ami but the cooked-on grease is pretty tenacious. Anyone
>have any suggestions for that?

If there is no chromed metal or aluminum, then spray-on oven cleaner
is as good as anything. You can also try pooling ammonia (or a hot
solution of TSP) and letting it sit. Lay a paper towel over the area,
saturate it with ammonia, lay some plastic wrap on top, and leave it
for a couple of hours.

Whenever you are using chemicals, you can reduce your elbow grease
expenditure by letting the chemicals sit. I used to have to train
janitors on variations of the two mop system, where the first mop
swabbed on the chemical, which was allowed to sit, and later was
scrubbed with a brush. During the wait period, the clean mop was used
to wipe up the residue from a previous section. They were always
amazed that they could dramatically reduce the scrubbing required,
just by letting the chemical do its job. If you buy the stuff, it
pays to give it time to work. You'll need less and spend less time
and money. Oh yeah, contrary to the claims of clothes detergent
makers, hot water does speed up reactions, help loosen grease, and
make chemicals work better.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 7:54 am
From: Dee

hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote in
news:vscoa4p9p5fr68r6b5j6ocmb5koeg18rm0@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:12:33 +0000, Dee <d@d.d> wrote:
>
>>The only area that I have trouble with is the stovetop. I scrub
>>it with Bon Ami but the cooked-on grease is pretty tenacious.
>>Anyone have any suggestions for that?
>
> If there is no chromed metal or aluminum, then spray-on oven
> cleaner is as good as anything. You can also try pooling ammonia
> (or a hot solution of TSP) and letting it sit. Lay a paper towel
> over the area, saturate it with ammonia, lay some plastic wrap on
> top, and leave it for a couple of hours.

The ammonia sounds like a good option to try.

> Whenever you are using chemicals, you can reduce your elbow grease
> expenditure by letting the chemicals sit. I used to have to train
> janitors on variations of the two mop system, where the first mop
> swabbed on the chemical, which was allowed to sit, and later was
> scrubbed with a brush. During the wait period, the clean mop was
> used to wipe up the residue from a previous section. They were
> always amazed that they could dramatically reduce the scrubbing
> required, just by letting the chemical do its job. If you buy the
> stuff, it pays to give it time to work. You'll need less and
> spend less time and money. Oh yeah, contrary to the claims of
> clothes detergent makers, hot water does speed up reactions, help
> loosen grease, and make chemicals work better.

Yes, I am lazy (and by that I mean 'efficient' ;-) so I do let
cleaners sit when called for.

I was actually thinking of making a paste with a little Tide and
trying that. I have used a pinch of Tide mixed with water
successfully to take out stains in carpet by brushing it in with an
old toothpaste and then blotting it out with my alcohol/water mix.
Works great.

Also, if you have one of those home carpet steam-cleaner machines,
I've found that, in lieu of the pricey detergent they sell in a
bottle, I can use 1/2 TBSP of unscented Tide (added to the 1 gallon
tank of boiling water) and it does a great job on the carpet.

Dee

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TOPIC: Please help Burnham RSM-126 oil furnace won't heat hot water after
vacation
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Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 6:35 am
From: Donita Luddington

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:57:48 -0700 (PDT), Paul Flansburg wrote:
> Taking the boiler a part isn't going to fix the problem. I think I
> would start with the burner....

Thanks everyone! It's fixed!

Without Mark, RBM, Phil Again, Siskuwihane, J. Clarke, starrin, & Paul, I
wouldn't have figured it out!

The Burnham oil furnace is working beautifully now!

With all the emails about combustion, I felt comfortable looking a little
further at what was rally going on. I cleaned the nozzle again and then I
cleaned the air intake around the nozzle.

All seems well now!

BTW, it was always firing (sometimes it wouldn't stay lit however) so there
was never any "pooling" that some of the posts warned about.

Thank you all so much for your help.
You are one smart bunch!!!

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Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 7:28 am
From: Mark

On Aug 20, 9:35 am, Donita Luddington <donil...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:57:48 -0700 (PDT), Paul Flansburg wrote:
> > Taking the boiler a part isn't going to fix the problem. I think I
> > would start with the burner....
>
> Thanks everyone! It's fixed!
>
> Without Mark, RBM, Phil Again, Siskuwihane, J. Clarke, starrin, & Paul, I
> wouldn't have figured it out!
>
> The Burnham oil furnace is working beautifully now!
>
> With all the emails about combustion, I felt comfortable looking a little
> further at what was rally going on. I cleaned the nozzle again and then I
> cleaned the air intake around the nozzle.
>
> All seems well now!
>
> BTW, it was always firing (sometimes it wouldn't stay lit however) so there
> was never any "pooling" that some of the posts warned about.
>
> Thank you all so much for your help.
> You are one smart bunch!!!

good for you!!!

Please consider taking some of the money you saved and getting a CO
alarm for your home in any case...

and make sure there is no blockage in the flue or chimney

Mark

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TOPIC: Exploding iPods!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 6:55 am
From: ultimauw@hotmail.com

http://consumerist.com/5039012/apple-agrees-to-replace-exploding-first+gen-ipods-after-japan-demands-action

what should have been a no-brainer, Apple today agreed to replace any
iPod Nanos that unexpectedly explode. The announcement came as a
response to the Japanese government, which yesterday asked the
computer-maker to "take some measures" to warn consumers of the
potential danger of their little pocket rockets. Apple blames a single
bad battery supplier for the spontaneous fireworks.

Apple said the flaw affected first-generation Nanos, sold between
September 2005 and December 2006, in very rare instances. The
company's statement added that "There have been no reports of serious
injuries or property damage, and no reports of incidents for any other
iPod Nano model."<snip>

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Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 7:05 am
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Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 7:05 am
From: robet

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Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 7:06 am
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Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 7:07 am
From: robet

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TOPIC: Effectively get Rid of wrinkles the non-surgical way
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0a66239e549dbf97?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 7:31 am
From: Luna

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TOPIC: Discount Furniture
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 8:07 am
From: AndyTao <22265737@qq.com>

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TOPIC: The DSL 12-Month Commitment
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bb1b6c0797411fac?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 8:35 am
From: Windswept@Home (Jack)

There are lots of complaints about the the two DSL providers available
here: Verizon and NetZero. The complaints focus around delayed
service ready dates, disconnects which last up to 14 days, and
piss-poor support.

If they offered month-to-month plans, it wouldn't be so bad. You
could merely cancel. But with the 12-month commitment which requires
an early termination penalty as well as full pmt. for the 12 months,
there is no incentive for good support.

What a racket! You pay for a shoddy product and are stuck with it!

Guess I'll always be a low-tech dial-up guy.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 8:56 am
From: George Grapman

Jack wrote:
> There are lots of complaints about the the two DSL providers available
> here: Verizon and NetZero. The complaints focus around delayed
> service ready dates, disconnects which last up to 14 days, and
> piss-poor support.
>
> If they offered month-to-month plans, it wouldn't be so bad. You
> could merely cancel. But with the 12-month commitment which requires
> an early termination penalty as well as full pmt. for the 12 months,
> there is no incentive for good support.
>
> What a racket! You pay for a shoddy product and are stuck with it!
>
> Guess I'll always be a low-tech dial-up guy.

In California a court recently upheld the rule that requires
termination fees to be pro-rated. My two tear cell plan expires in
October. Last week I lost my cell. At first they wanted to charge me
full price for a new phone but after I told them that I would cancel
(this is why they hate number transportability)and pay 1/12 of the early
termination fee they offered me a free phone in return for a new 2 year
contract.

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TOPIC: Shoe repair & Shoe Goo?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/51bfda567813c9fd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 20 2008 9:38 am
From: "john hamilton"

"Al Bundy" <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote in message
news:9f2970d3-1539-4f68-9fef-0eb10d36fea5@v57g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I have a pair of suede oxfords (Soft Spot All Day Comfort). One has a
>> one-inch split in it, starting at the top edge of the rubber sole, at
>> the heel. Does anyone know how much Shoe Goo costs compared to taking
>> it to be repaired? Could I use super-glue just as effectively?
>> Anything else I should know?
>>
>> Lenona.

here in the u.k. you can buy stick on heels and soles, usually sold in
woolworths stores.

they use a glue that is labelled 'polyurathane' and its really tough and
really sticky. (a tube is about £2 ). you can build it up in layers and
make anything stick to anything and its waterproof. for shoes i wouldn't
bother with any other type of glue.

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