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== 1 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 12:48 pm
From: "Gazwad"

=?windows-1256?B?5NPjySDH7ePH5A==?= <olaalaa1@gmail.com>, the
tubby-arsed-welfare-bum and garish fag-bag who likes heartless bayonet
drill with blue whales, and whose partner is a blower with a saturated
gap, wrote in
<19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-40093a50cd54@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>:
> Allah (God)
>
> Islam is the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God).

Oh, really? God didn't tell you to blow yourself the fuck-up, did he?
Could it be then that all those stupid headless suicide motherfuckers are
now in hell then?

Remember, Jesus loves you. Everybody else thinks you're a cunt.

HTH

--
For my own part, I have never had a thought which I could not set down
in words with even more distinctness than that with which I conceived
it. There is, however, a class of fancies of exquisite delicacy which
are not thoughts, and to which as yet I have found it absolutely
impossible to adapt to language. These fancies arise in the soul, alas
how rarely. Only at epochs of most intense tranquillity, when the
bodily and mental health are in perfection. And at those weird points
of time, where the confines of the waking world blend with the world of
dreams. And so I captured this fancy, where all that we see, or seem,
is but a dream within a dream.

== 2 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:04 pm
From: Markku Grönroos

"Gazwad" <nospam.spam.nospam@gmail.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:6jhmt8$mdn$i@dull-bouncers.co.th...
> =?windows-1256?B?5NPjySDH7ePH5A==?= <olaalaa1@gmail.com>, the
> tubby-arsed-welfare-bum and garish fag-bag who likes heartless bayonet
> drill with blue whales, and whose partner is a blower with a saturated
> gap, wrote in
> <19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-40093a50cd54@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>:
>> Allah (God)
>>
>> Islam is the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God).
>
> Oh, really? God didn't tell you to blow yourself the fuck-up, did he?
> Could it be then that all those stupid headless suicide motherfuckers are
> now in hell then?
>
> Remember, Jesus loves you. Everybody else thinks you're a cunt.
>
> HTH
>
>
> --
> For my own part, I have never had a thought which I could not set down
> in words with even more distinctness than that with which I conceived
> it. There is, however, a class of fancies of exquisite delicacy which
> are not thoughts, and to which as yet I have found it absolutely
> impossible to adapt to language. These fancies arise in the soul, alas
> how rarely. Only at epochs of most intense tranquillity, when the
> bodily and mental health are in perfection. And at those weird points
> of time, where the confines of the waking world blend with the world of
> dreams. And so I captured this fancy, where all that we see, or seem,
> is but a dream within a dream.
>

== 3 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:04 pm
From: Markku Grönroos

"Mike the Brewer" <mike.tech@sysmotors.net> kirjoitti
viestissä:Q%RHj.29205$5i5.6130@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "spack" <spack@home.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.22599db64d498245989687@news.btopenworld.com...
>> In article <19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-40093a50cd54
>> @p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, olaalaa1@gmail.com says...
>>> Allah (God)
>>>
>> <tedious bollocks snipped>
>>
>> Thanks for this. If I want to find out about Islam or any other mass
>> delusions, I'll ask.
>
> It never ceases to amaze me that when an OT posting of this nature appears
> ( cross-posted to a number of groups ) it is so obvious that the sender is
> some
> kind of fanatic, yet there are a large number of subscribers tempted to
> reply, thus
> encouraging further annoying posts.
> Just put them in your killfile along with all the marketing spam from
> China and the
> "make money from the internet" crap.
>

== 4 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:04 pm
From: Markku Grönroos

"Tralfamador" <Tralf@freeserve.net> kirjoitti
viestissä:TRRHj.30504$Ge4.23908@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
> catchme wrote:
>> Tralfamador wrote:
>>
>> many nations' governments have USED the name of religion to suit their
>> own needs, calling the Faithful to do their bidding for them....
>> the only plausible exception to this were the Crusades, which was the
>> result of the Catholic Church garnering too much power over the
>> Kingdoms (after their succesful Conversions of Pagan Kings and their
>> people to Christianity, it was easy to threaten to excommunicate a
>> ruler and thus control the fears of the clergy...)
>> But before the Catholic Church, there was yet an older Church that
>> Christ himself railed against for the requirement of paying for ones
>> sins in gold....
>> Catholicism is evil- simply put.
>> the rest of religion? Nothing wrong with Jews- but dont confuse them
>> with Isrealites...one is a religion, the other an expansionist
>> political machine.
>> Islam? the religion is sound- they are brothers to Jews (but not
>> necesarily Isreal), but some leaders use their religion to gather
>> support to overthrow foreign influence in their own lands (Americans
>> would do the same, calling on "Good Christians" should Russia occupy
>> United States territory....)
>> Is religion absolutely responsible for everything?
>> How does International politics play in?
>> the US aggressive stance all over the world, threatening elected
>> governments in unstable countries with civil war and replacing them
>> with dictators friendly to Washington?
>>
>> Nay, look to your own leaders- the very Constitution is writ by
>> traitors of the British Empire, and the United States was
>> accomplished by treason. the Confederate Army committed terrorism
>> into Canada....these were all political acts.
>
> There is no god. Once this is accepted everything falls into place.
>
>

== 5 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:05 pm
From: Markku Grönroos

"Tralfamador" <Tralf@freeserve.net> kirjoitti
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> Fred Kasner wrote:
> First principles are as
>> questionable
>> in science as theology.
>
> Theology is the study of fiction.... It has nothing to do with science.
>
> L. Ron. Hubbard thought really, really hard and came up with the cult of
> scientology. Others thought really, really hard and came up with the
> abrahamic religions. Compare this to the scientific method (google
> it.... )
> and explain to me why i should take anything a theist says as "gospel".
>
> A bunch of catholics just recently went into a room and thought really,
> really hard and the end result was an ex nazi as pope and condoms are
> still
> a bad idea. Explain to me why this is a good thing!
>
> T
>
>

== 6 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:10 pm
From: "Tralfamador"

catchme wrote:
> Einstein, a self-admitted atheist, found that "God is in the center of
> the Universe."
> lookout is upset that i use references to Einstein, because at least
> Einstein could have made the claim that he was rational in his
> beliefs.

I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have
expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious
then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as
our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954)

I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of
what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of
human beings. (Albert Einstein)

The Jewish tradition also contains something else, something which finds
splendid expression in many of the Psalms, namely, a sort of intoxicated joy
and amazement at the beauty and grandeur of this world, of which man can
form just a faint notion. This joy is the feeling from which true scientific
research draws its spiritual sustenance, but which also seems to find
expression in the song of birds. To tack this feeling to the idea of God
seems mere childish absurdity. (Albert Einstein, 1934)

== 7 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:09 pm
From: Markku Grönroos

"Tralfamador" <Tralf@freeserve.net> kirjoitti
viestissä:xsSHj.27338$jH5.21624@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> catchme wrote:
>> Einstein, a self-admitted atheist, found that "God is in the center of
>> the Universe."
>> lookout is upset that i use references to Einstein, because at least
>> Einstein could have made the claim that he was rational in his
>> beliefs.
>
> I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have
> expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious
> then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far
> as
> our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954)
>
> I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of
> what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions
> of
> human beings. (Albert Einstein)
>
> The Jewish tradition also contains something else, something which finds
> splendid expression in many of the Psalms, namely, a sort of intoxicated
> joy
> and amazement at the beauty and grandeur of this world, of which man can
> form just a faint notion. This joy is the feeling from which true
> scientific
> research draws its spiritual sustenance, but which also seems to find
> expression in the song of birds. To tack this feeling to the idea of God
> seems mere childish absurdity. (Albert Einstein, 1934)
>
>
>

== 8 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 12:33 pm
From: Scientology is a cult

äÓãÉ ÇíãÇä <olaalaa1@gmail.com> wrote in news:19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-
40093a50cd54@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> Islam is the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God).

I don't submit to or am obedient to any human. Why should I submit to or
be obedient to something manufactured by humans?

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

== 9 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:24 pm
From: Markku Grönroos

"Scientology is a cult" <Your@ema.yil> kirjoitti
viestissä:Xns9A71B0BD12B6CGenyooineLRH@66.150.105.47...
> äÓãÉ ÇíãÇä <olaalaa1@gmail.com> wrote in news:19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-
> 40093a50cd54@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Islam is the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God).
>
> I don't submit to or am obedient to any human. Why should I submit to or
> be obedient to something manufactured by humans?
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

== 10 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:31 pm
From: "Lookout666.6"

catchme wrote:
> Lookout wrote:
>
>>
>> Old Lookout is a ambulance chaser. If there is any sign of trouble, he
>> will chase it. He has been on a race thing lately, because he is a
>> pure racist.
>>
>
> i dont know about 'ambulance chaser'....but i think it likely he runs
> through churches and synagogues, screaming down the aisles before the
> ushers catch up to him that he is a proud atheist....

He wants to whine about a lot of things. He keeps saying that he was in
the Army, like it means something. No one gives a shit about it. He was
in the Army for 9 years and got out in 1984. With that much time
invested into the Army like that, one doesn't just walk away. He was
court marshalled out of the Army for his BS babbling lip service. The
MP's chased, him, they caught him, and they had him kicked out of the
Army. I am sure he acted just as asstacular and a ass-hole back then as
he does now.

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== 11 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:35 pm
From: Markku Grönroos

"Lookout666.6" <mrLookout@yahoo.com> kirjoitti
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> catchme wrote:
>> Lookout wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Old Lookout is a ambulance chaser. If there is any sign of trouble, he
>>> will chase it. He has been on a race thing lately, because he is a pure
>>> racist.
>>>
>>
>> i dont know about 'ambulance chaser'....but i think it likely he runs
>> through churches and synagogues, screaming down the aisles before the
>> ushers catch up to him that he is a proud atheist....
>
> He wants to whine about a lot of things. He keeps saying that he was in
> the Army, like it means something. No one gives a shit about it. He was
> in the Army for 9 years and got out in 1984. With that much time
> invested into the Army like that, one doesn't just walk away. He was
> court marshalled out of the Army for his BS babbling lip service. The
> MP's chased, him, they caught him, and they had him kicked out of the
> Army. I am sure he acted just as asstacular and a ass-hole back then as
> he does now.
>
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== 12 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:47 pm
From: Lookout

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:59:45 -0500, Logan Shaw
<lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>Lookout wrote:
>> Do you think I care? I am only here for one thing. Can you figure it out?
>
>Well, given the contents of the Newsgroups: line, that'd be either
>(a) helpdesk support
>(b) something about Scientology
>(c) travel in Europe
>(d) living on the cheap
>or
>(e) Television in the UK
>
>Given that your moniker is "lookout", which could suggest mild paranoia
>and a keen desire to constantly remain aware of what might lie in wait
>ready to trap you in some way, I'm going to guess (a) helpdesk, but I
>could be wrong.
>
>Then again, I guess you could be a Scientologist helpdesk employee who
>plans to vacation in Europe but doesn't have a big budget and so plans to
>spend his time there mostly watching television.
>
> - Logan
You're responding to a troll who's using my nick. He's on Usenetserver
and he's very lonely for attention.

== 13 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 12:55 pm
From: Scientology is a cult

Markku Grönroos <kurkku@hassuserveri.fi> wrote in
news:hGSHj.318388$qs3.170432@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi:

>
> "Scientology is a cult" <Your@ema.yil> kirjoitti
> viestissä:Xns9A71B0BD12B6CGenyooineLRH@66.150.105.47...
>> äÓãÉ ÇíãÇä <olaalaa1@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-
>> 40093a50cd54@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Islam is the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God).
>>
>> I don't submit to or am obedient to any human. Why should I submit
>> to or be obedient to something manufactured by humans?
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>

You seemed to have dropped a newsgroup in your non-reply. I restored it.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

== 14 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:52 pm
From: Markku Grönroos

"Lookout" <mrLookout@yahoo.com> kirjoitti
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> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:59:45 -0500, Logan Shaw
> <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Lookout wrote:
>>> Do you think I care? I am only here for one thing. Can you figure it
>>> out?
>>
>>Well, given the contents of the Newsgroups: line, that'd be either
>>(a) helpdesk support
>>(b) something about Scientology
>>(c) travel in Europe
>>(d) living on the cheap
>>or
>>(e) Television in the UK
>>
>>Given that your moniker is "lookout", which could suggest mild paranoia
>>and a keen desire to constantly remain aware of what might lie in wait
>>ready to trap you in some way, I'm going to guess (a) helpdesk, but I
>>could be wrong.
>>
>>Then again, I guess you could be a Scientologist helpdesk employee who
>>plans to vacation in Europe but doesn't have a big budget and so plans to
>>spend his time there mostly watching television.
>>
>> - Logan
> You're responding to a troll who's using my nick. He's on Usenetserver
> and he's very lonely for attention.

== 15 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:53 pm
From: Markku Grönroos

"Scientology is a cult" <Your@ema.yil> kirjoitti
viestissä:Xns9A71B47A7E335GenyooineLRH@66.150.105.47...
> Markku Grönroos <kurkku@hassuserveri.fi> wrote in
> news:hGSHj.318388$qs3.170432@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi:
>
>>
>> "Scientology is a cult" <Your@ema.yil> kirjoitti
>> viestissä:Xns9A71B0BD12B6CGenyooineLRH@66.150.105.47...
>>> äÓãÉ ÇíãÇä <olaalaa1@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-
>>> 40093a50cd54@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> Islam is the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God).
>>>
>>> I don't submit to or am obedient to any human. Why should I submit
>>> to or be obedient to something manufactured by humans?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>
>>
>
>
> You seemed to have dropped a newsgroup in your non-reply. I restored it.
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

== 16 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:49 pm
From: "Ayatollah of rock 'n' roller"

"Mike the Brewer" <mike.tech@sysmotors.net> wrote in message
news:Q%RHj.29205$5i5.6130@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "spack" <spack@home.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.22599db64d498245989687@news.btopenworld.com...
>> In article <19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-40093a50cd54
>> @p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, olaalaa1@gmail.com says...
>>> Allah (God)
>>>
>> <tedious bollocks snipped>
>>
>> Thanks for this. If I want to find out about Islam or any other mass
>> delusions, I'll ask.
>
> It never ceases to amaze me that when an OT posting of this nature appears
> ( cross-posted to a number of groups ) it is so obvious that the sender is
> some
> kind of fanatic, yet there are a large number of subscribers tempted to
> reply, thus
> encouraging further annoying posts.
> Just put them in your killfile along with all the marketing spam from
> China

You can not normally do this withe these kinds of scum because they change
their email and name all of the time. So do what the rest of us do and hate
them like the rest of the world.

== 17 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:56 pm
From: Markku Grönroos

"Ayatollah of rock 'n' roller" <thisisf@lse.co.ck> kirjoitti
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>
> "Mike the Brewer" <mike.tech@sysmotors.net> wrote in message
> news:Q%RHj.29205$5i5.6130@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> "spack" <spack@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.22599db64d498245989687@news.btopenworld.com...
>>> In article <19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-40093a50cd54
>>> @p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, olaalaa1@gmail.com says...
>>>> Allah (God)
>>>>
>>> <tedious bollocks snipped>
>>>
>>> Thanks for this. If I want to find out about Islam or any other mass
>>> delusions, I'll ask.
>>
>> It never ceases to amaze me that when an OT posting of this nature
>> appears
>> ( cross-posted to a number of groups ) it is so obvious that the sender
>> is some
>> kind of fanatic, yet there are a large number of subscribers tempted to
>> reply, thus
>> encouraging further annoying posts.
>> Just put them in your killfile along with all the marketing spam from
>> China
>
>
> You can not normally do this withe these kinds of scum because they change
> their email and name all of the time. So do what the rest of us do and
> hate them like the rest of the world.
>

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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:08 pm
From: William Souden

Rod Speed wrote:
> William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> cswansonlbcbo@gmail.com wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Donna wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> George Grapman <sfgeo...@paccbell.net> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/dining/26ninety.html?_r=1&ref=dinin...>
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting story. Our dollar stores are not that great
>>>>>>>>>>> around here and often carry really inferior products. I'm thinking NYC has more to offer.
>
>>>>>>>>>> The 99-Cents-Only stores in the Los Angeles (and other, I
>>>>>>>>>> guess) area carry a lot of foreign food (mostly China, but not
>>>>>>>>>> exclusively), a variety of name-brand sausage/hotdog products,
>
>>>>>>>>> Trouble is that those are made from surplus cats and dogs and rats.
>
>>>>>>>>>> fresh vegetables and fruits, a lot of exotic sauces (the
>>>>>>>>>> Philippine banana sauce was pretty bland, but wotthehell) and
>>>>>>>>>> a nice variety of brand-name toothpaste and deodorant as well
>>>>>>>>>> as a lot of imported bathroom needs and cleaning supplies. Like Fry's, you could live in a 99-Cents-Only store
>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.99only.com/
>>>>>>>>>> I love those stores. The penny-a-minute long distance cards
>>>>>>>>>> alone are worth the price of admission.
>
>>>>>>>>> You're better off with voip.
>
>>>>>>>> Until your internet connection goes down. VOIP is fine
>>>>>>>> for social calls or for companies with offices in different
>>>>>>>> countries that need to call each other but I would not want
>>>>>>>> my business to customer calls dependent on that service.
>
>>>>>>> There arent likely to be too many businesses that rely on penny-a-minute long distance cards alone, cretin.
>
>>>>>> But some businesses do rely on VOIP
>
>>>>> None rely on penny-a-minute long distance cards alone, cretin.
>
>>>>>> and the inherent problems were pointed out.
>
>>>>> Nope, you fucked that up completely. Any properly
>>>>> implemented voip system falls back to the PSTN fuckwit.
>
>>>> And that requires paying the monthly per line fees for both
>>>> local and long distance service that VOIP is supposed to avoid.
>
>>> But avoids the call charges except when the broadband is down.
>
>> Most plans give x number of minutes before you pay added charges.
>
> Irrelevant to the penny-a-minute long distance cards being discussed.
>
>> Most business land lines have per minute charges even for a call across the street.
>
> Which is why anyone with a clue uses untimed voip instead.

Repeat: connection quality can be very poor with VOIP. I would not
want to depend on it for business calls, something you never deal with.
>
>> As earlier stated I would not want to depend on the voice quality of VOIP for business calls.
>
> Any properly implemented voip system falls back to the PSTN if you need reliability.

Again, the latter incurs monthly charges per line whether you use it
or not.
>
>

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:19 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> cswansonlbcbo@gmail.com wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Donna wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> George Grapman <sfgeo...@paccbell.net> wrote

>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/dining/26ninety.html?_r=1&ref=dinin...>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting story. Our dollar stores are not that great
>>>>>>>>>>>> around here and often carry really inferior products. I'm thinking NYC has more to offer.

>>>>>>>>>>> The 99-Cents-Only stores in the Los Angeles (and other, I
>>>>>>>>>>> guess) area carry a lot of foreign food (mostly China, but not exclusively), a variety of name-brand
>>>>>>>>>>> sausage/hotdog products,

>>>>>>>>>> Trouble is that those are made from surplus cats and dogs and rats.

>>>>>>>>>>> fresh vegetables and fruits, a lot of exotic sauces (the
>>>>>>>>>>> Philippine banana sauce was pretty bland, but wotthehell) and a nice variety of brand-name toothpaste and
>>>>>>>>>>> deodorant as well as a lot of imported bathroom needs and cleaning supplies.
>>>>>>>>>>> Like Fry's, you could live in a 99-Cents-Only store :-)
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.99only.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> I love those stores. The penny-a-minute long distance cards
>>>>>>>>>>> alone are worth the price of admission.

>>>>>>>>>> You're better off with voip.

>>>>>>>>> Until your internet connection goes down. VOIP is fine
>>>>>>>>> for social calls or for companies with offices in different
>>>>>>>>> countries that need to call each other but I would not want
>>>>>>>>> my business to customer calls dependent on that service.

>>>>>>>> There arent likely to be too many businesses that rely on
>>>>>>>> penny-a-minute long distance cards alone, cretin.

>>>>>>> But some businesses do rely on VOIP

>>>>>> None rely on penny-a-minute long distance cards alone, cretin.

>>>>>>> and the inherent problems were pointed out.

>>>>>> Nope, you fucked that up completely. Any properly
>>>>>> implemented voip system falls back to the PSTN fuckwit.

>>>>> And that requires paying the monthly per line fees for both
>>>>> local and long distance service that VOIP is supposed to avoid.

>>>> But avoids the call charges except when the broadband is down.

>>> Most plans give x number of minutes before you pay added charges.

>> Irrelevant to the penny-a-minute long distance cards being discussed.

>>> Most business land lines have per minute charges even for a call across the street.

>> Which is why anyone with a clue uses untimed voip instead.

> Repeat: connection quality can be very poor with VOIP.

Repeat: anyone with a clue can implement voip so that the connection
quality is indistinguishable from what you get with the PSTN.

> I would not want to depend on it for business calls,

Your terminal pig ignorance is your problem, fuckwit.

No surprise that you dont get to do a damned thing technology wise and ended up a race track bum.

>>> As earlier stated I would not want to depend on the voice quality of VOIP for business calls.

>> Any properly implemented voip system falls back to the PSTN if you need reliability.

> Again, the latter incurs monthly charges per line whether you use it or not.

But avoids the call charges except when the broadband is down.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:35 pm
From: William Souden

Rod Speed wrote:
> William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> cswansonlbcbo@gmail.com wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Donna wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Grapman <sfgeo...@paccbell.net> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/dining/26ninety.html?_r=1&ref=dinin...>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting story. Our dollar stores are not that great
>>>>>>>>>>>>> around here and often carry really inferior products. I'm thinking NYC has more to offer.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The 99-Cents-Only stores in the Los Angeles (and other, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> guess) area carry a lot of foreign food (mostly China, but not exclusively), a variety of name-brand
>>>>>>>>>>>> sausage/hotdog products,
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Trouble is that those are made from surplus cats and dogs and rats.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh vegetables and fruits, a lot of exotic sauces (the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Philippine banana sauce was pretty bland, but wotthehell) and a nice variety of brand-name toothpaste and
>>>>>>>>>>>> deodorant as well as a lot of imported bathroom needs and cleaning supplies.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Fry's, you could live in a 99-Cents-Only store :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.99only.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>> I love those stores. The penny-a-minute long distance cards
>>>>>>>>>>>> alone are worth the price of admission.
>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're better off with voip.
>
>>>>>>>>>> Until your internet connection goes down. VOIP is fine
>>>>>>>>>> for social calls or for companies with offices in different
>>>>>>>>>> countries that need to call each other but I would not want
>>>>>>>>>> my business to customer calls dependent on that service.
>
>>>>>>>>> There arent likely to be too many businesses that rely on
>>>>>>>>> penny-a-minute long distance cards alone, cretin.
>
>>>>>>>> But some businesses do rely on VOIP
>
>>>>>>> None rely on penny-a-minute long distance cards alone, cretin.
>
>>>>>>>> and the inherent problems were pointed out.
>
>>>>>>> Nope, you fucked that up completely. Any properly
>>>>>>> implemented voip system falls back to the PSTN fuckwit.
>
>>>>>> And that requires paying the monthly per line fees for both
>>>>>> local and long distance service that VOIP is supposed to avoid.
>
>>>>> But avoids the call charges except when the broadband is down.
>
>>>> Most plans give x number of minutes before you pay added charges.
>
>>> Irrelevant to the penny-a-minute long distance cards being discussed.
>
>>>> Most business land lines have per minute charges even for a call across the street.
>
>>> Which is why anyone with a clue uses untimed voip instead.
>
>> Repeat: connection quality can be very poor with VOIP.
>
> Repeat: anyone with a clue can implement voip so that the connection
> quality is indistinguishable from what you get with the PSTN.
>
>> I would not want to depend on it for business calls,
>
> Your terminal pig ignorance is your problem, fuckwit.
>
> No surprise that you dont get to do a damned thing technology wise and ended up a race track bum.
>

Want me to repost your work history,welfare boy? As i said, we welcome
clueless people like you to the track but,remember, the turf club had
higher admission fees, along with dress and conduct codes.
Tell me. Mr. knows everything, why do you think I like seeing clueless
people at the track?
Why do you equate the track with bums? Bad personal experience? all
those numbers confuse you? Lost and though it was fixed?

>>>> As earlier stated I would not want to depend on the voice quality of VOIP for business calls.
>
>>> Any properly implemented voip system falls back to the PSTN if you need reliability.
>
>> Again, the latter incurs monthly charges per line whether you use it or not.
>
> But avoids the call charges except when the broadband is down.
>
>
But you still pay monthly charges per line so if you office
has 50 lines there is a substantial cost for a service that is rarely used.
You may not care about connection quality when calling your case
worker but those of us who use phone for something called work do care/

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 1:59 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> cswansonlbcbo@gmail.com wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Donna wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Grapman <sfgeo...@paccbell.net> wrote

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/dining/26ninety.html?_r=1&ref=dinin...>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting story. Our dollar stores are not that great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around here and often carry really inferior products.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking NYC has more to offer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> The 99-Cents-Only stores in the Los Angeles (and other, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess) area carry a lot of foreign food (mostly China, but not exclusively), a variety of name-brand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sausage/hotdog products,

>>>>>>>>>>>> Trouble is that those are made from surplus cats and dogs and rats.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh vegetables and fruits, a lot of exotic sauces (the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Philippine banana sauce was pretty bland, but wotthehell)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a nice variety of brand-name toothpaste and deodorant
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well as a lot of imported bathroom needs and cleaning supplies. Like Fry's, you could live in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 99-Cents-Only store :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.99only.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love those stores. The penny-a-minute long distance
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cards alone are worth the price of admission.

>>>>>>>>>>>> You're better off with voip.

>>>>>>>>>>> Until your internet connection goes down. VOIP is fine
>>>>>>>>>>> for social calls or for companies with offices in different
>>>>>>>>>>> countries that need to call each other but I would not want
>>>>>>>>>>> my business to customer calls dependent on that service.

>>>>>>>>>> There arent likely to be too many businesses that rely on penny-a-minute long distance cards alone, cretin.

>>>>>>>>> But some businesses do rely on VOIP

>>>>>>>> None rely on penny-a-minute long distance cards alone, cretin.

>>>>>>>>> and the inherent problems were pointed out.

>>>>>>>> Nope, you fucked that up completely. Any properly
>>>>>>>> implemented voip system falls back to the PSTN fuckwit.

>>>>>>> And that requires paying the monthly per line fees for both
>>>>>>> local and long distance service that VOIP is supposed to avoid.

>>>>>> But avoids the call charges except when the broadband is down.

>>>>> Most plans give x number of minutes before you pay added charges.

>>>> Irrelevant to the penny-a-minute long distance cards being discussed.

>>>>> Most business land lines have per minute charges even for a call across the street.

>>>> Which is why anyone with a clue uses untimed voip instead.

>>> Repeat: connection quality can be very poor with VOIP.

>> Repeat: anyone with a clue can implement voip so that the connection
>> quality is indistinguishable from what you get with the PSTN.

>>> I would not want to depend on it for business calls,

>> Your terminal pig ignorance is your problem, fuckwit.

>> No surprise that you dont get to do a damned thing technology wise and ended up a race track bum.

>>>>> As earlier stated I would not want to depend on the voice quality of VOIP for business calls.

>>>> Any properly implemented voip system falls back to the PSTN if you need reliability.

>>> Again, the latter incurs monthly charges per line whether you use it or not.

>> But avoids the call charges except when the broadband is down.

> But you still pay monthly charges per line so if you office has 50 lines there is a substantial cost for a service
> that is rarely used.

Only a stupid race track bum would have that many lines for when the broadband is down.

Anyone with a clue would have more than one broadband so that doesnt all go down at once.

No surprise that you dont get to do a damned thing
technology wise and ended up a race track bum.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 2:03 pm
From: William Souden

Rod Speed wrote:
> William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> cswansonlbcbo@gmail.com wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Donna wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Grapman <sfgeo...@paccbell.net> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/dining/26ninety.html?_r=1&ref=dinin...>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting story. Our dollar stores are not that great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around here and often carry really inferior products.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking NYC has more to offer.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The 99-Cents-Only stores in the Los Angeles (and other, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess) area carry a lot of foreign food (mostly China, but not exclusively), a variety of name-brand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sausage/hotdog products,
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trouble is that those are made from surplus cats and dogs and rats.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh vegetables and fruits, a lot of exotic sauces (the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Philippine banana sauce was pretty bland, but wotthehell)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a nice variety of brand-name toothpaste and deodorant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well as a lot of imported bathroom needs and cleaning supplies. Like Fry's, you could live in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 99-Cents-Only store :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.99only.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love those stores. The penny-a-minute long distance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cards alone are worth the price of admission.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're better off with voip.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Until your internet connection goes down. VOIP is fine
>>>>>>>>>>>> for social calls or for companies with offices in different
>>>>>>>>>>>> countries that need to call each other but I would not want
>>>>>>>>>>>> my business to customer calls dependent on that service.
>
>>>>>>>>>>> There arent likely to be too many businesses that rely on penny-a-minute long distance cards alone, cretin.
>
>>>>>>>>>> But some businesses do rely on VOIP
>
>>>>>>>>> None rely on penny-a-minute long distance cards alone, cretin.
>
>>>>>>>>>> and the inherent problems were pointed out.
>
>>>>>>>>> Nope, you fucked that up completely. Any properly
>>>>>>>>> implemented voip system falls back to the PSTN fuckwit.
>
>>>>>>>> And that requires paying the monthly per line fees for both
>>>>>>>> local and long distance service that VOIP is supposed to avoid.
>
>>>>>>> But avoids the call charges except when the broadband is down.
>
>>>>>> Most plans give x number of minutes before you pay added charges.
>
>>>>> Irrelevant to the penny-a-minute long distance cards being discussed.
>
>>>>>> Most business land lines have per minute charges even for a call across the street.
>
>>>>> Which is why anyone with a clue uses untimed voip instead.
>
>>>> Repeat: connection quality can be very poor with VOIP.
>
>>> Repeat: anyone with a clue can implement voip so that the connection
>>> quality is indistinguishable from what you get with the PSTN.
>
>>>> I would not want to depend on it for business calls,
>
>>> Your terminal pig ignorance is your problem, fuckwit.
>
>>> No surprise that you dont get to do a damned thing technology wise and ended up a race track bum.
>
> <reams of your mindless raving completely irrelevant to what is being
> discussed, penny-a-minute long distance cards, flushed where it belongs>
>
>>>>>> As earlier stated I would not want to depend on the voice quality of VOIP for business calls.
>
>>>>> Any properly implemented voip system falls back to the PSTN if you need reliability.
>
>>>> Again, the latter incurs monthly charges per line whether you use it or not.
>
>>> But avoids the call charges except when the broadband is down.
>
>> But you still pay monthly charges per line so if you office has 50 lines there is a substantial cost for a service
>> that is rarely used.
>
> Only a stupid race track bum would have that many lines for when the broadband is down.

Yep. only a stupid race track bum would work in an office with 50
employees all of whom need phones. Don't the people in your welfare
office have individual lines?
>
> Anyone with a clue would have more than one broadband so that doesnt all go down at once.
>
> No surprise that you dont get to do a damned thing
> technology wise and ended up a race track bum.
>

So tell us, welfare boy, why do you equate the track with bums? Ever
been there? Know how it works? Lost and you think it is fixed? Are all
the well heeled people in the turf club bums?
>

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 2:04 pm
From: William Souden

So tell us, welfare boy, why do you equate the track with bums? Ever
been there? Know how it works? Lost and you think it is fixed? Are all
the well heeled people in the turf club bums?
>

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