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== 1 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 8:03 am
From: Lookout96
Shawn Hirn wrote:
> In article <1206881983_1079@pronews.com>,
> "Lookout2.0" <mrLookout@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Lookout wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:53:47 +0100, spack <spack@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-40093a50cd54
>>>> @p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, olaalaa1@gmail.com says...
>>>>> Allah (God)
>>>>>
>>>> <tedious bollocks snipped>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for this. If I want to find out about Islam or any other mass
>>>> delusions, I'll ask.
>>> snicker
>> Why are you doing that? There is no god according to you, but you are on
>> your way to hell --- snicker. You can run but you can't hide. I am not
>> going to cut you up too much, just a little bit. ;-)
>
> Proof?
Prove what? I am not here to prove anything, other than, Lookout is pure
trash, he should get off of Unset, and go back to driving his bus, the
x-Army Spec4 transportation grease monkey that got out in 1984.
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== 2 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 8:10 am
From: Lookout
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:19:17 GMT, "Tralfamador" <Tralf@freeserve.net>
wrote:
>Lookout wrote:
>because he is a
>> pure
>> racist.
>>
>
>And the racism thing... Bad idea is bad IMHO.
>
Check the headers. The "lookout' the posted that is from Usenetserver,
just a lonely troll using my nick.
== 3 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 8:11 am
From: Lookout
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:15:46 GMT, Meng <nospam@fnarg.co.uk> wrote:
>Lookout wrote:
>> Religionists don't need proof. I've asked for it repeatedly but they
>> just can't seem to back up their fairy tale.
>
>That's because they usually fall back on the "if you have faith you
>don't need proof" explanation which is the biggest load of cop-out BS
>ever.
>
Agreed.
When I first found the Internet there were very few vocal
non-believers. Now we're all over the place. It was pretty lonely out
here for a while.
== 4 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 8:12 am
From: "Ayatollah of rock 'n' roller"
"Tralfamador" <Tralf@freeserve.net> wrote in message
news:yPMHj.26395$jH5.23839@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> spack wrote:
>> In article <19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-40093a50cd54
>> @p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, olaalaa1@gmail.com says...
>>> Allah (God)
>>>
>> <tedious bollocks snipped>
>>
>> Thanks for this. If I want to find out about Islam or any other mass
>> delusions, I'll ask.
>
> Why do we want to leap in and denounce theist diatribes. Why should we cut
> in between a group of theists and confront them with our rational,
> atheistic
> logic? Many times we are confronted with a plaintive "Why can't we agree
> to
> disagree and respect each others points of view?" I will try to explain my
> own personal stance here. Enough is enough! It's time to draw that line in
> the sand.
Calm down! Novody ever listens to these racist scum anyway!
== 5 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 8:58 am
From: "philo"
"???? ?????" <olaalaa1@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-40093a50cd54@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Allah (God)
Islam is the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God). The
name Allah (God) in Islam never refers to Muhammad (pbuh), as many
Christians may think; Allah is the personal name of God.
<SNIP>
Here is what my father said:
"If your religion makes you a better person, then I'm all for it."
I agree.
One other thing though:
Religion is like sex. Better to keep it private.
== 6 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 8:58 am
From: Markku Grönroos
"philo" <philo@privacy.net> kirjoitti
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>
> "???? ?????" <olaalaa1@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-40093a50cd54@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Allah (God)
>
> Islam is the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God). The
> name Allah (God) in Islam never refers to Muhammad (pbuh), as many
> Christians may think; Allah is the personal name of God.
>
>
> <SNIP>
>
>
> Here is what my father said:
>
> "If your religion makes you a better person, then I'm all for it."
>
>
> I agree.
>
> One other thing though:
>
> Religion is like sex. Better to keep it private.
>
>
== 7 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 10:57 am
From: Lookout96
Lookout wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:19:17 GMT, "Tralfamador" <Tralf@freeserve.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Lookout wrote:
>> because he is a
>>> pure
>>> racist.
>>>
>> And the racism thing... Bad idea is bad IMHO.
>>
> Check the headers. The "lookout' the posted that is from Usenetserver,
> just a lonely troll using my nick.
The transportation grease monkey is stupid. ;-)
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== 8 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 10:59 am
From: Logan Shaw
Lookout wrote:
> Do you think I care? I am only here for one thing. Can you figure it out?
Well, given the contents of the Newsgroups: line, that'd be either
(a) helpdesk support
(b) something about Scientology
(c) travel in Europe
(d) living on the cheap
or
(e) Television in the UK
Given that your moniker is "lookout", which could suggest mild paranoia
and a keen desire to constantly remain aware of what might lie in wait
ready to trap you in some way, I'm going to guess (a) helpdesk, but I
could be wrong.
Then again, I guess you could be a Scientologist helpdesk employee who
plans to vacation in Europe but doesn't have a big budget and so plans to
spend his time there mostly watching television.
- Logan
== 9 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:02 am
From: Lookout96
Logan Shaw wrote:
> Lookout wrote:
>> Do you think I care? I am only here for one thing. Can you figure it out?
>
> Well, given the contents of the Newsgroups: line, that'd be either
> (a) helpdesk support
> (b) something about Scientology
> (c) travel in Europe
> (d) living on the cheap
> or
> (e) Television in the UK
>
> Given that your moniker is "lookout", which could suggest mild paranoia
> and a keen desire to constantly remain aware of what might lie in wait
> ready to trap you in some way, I'm going to guess (a) helpdesk, but I
> could be wrong.
>
> Then again, I guess you could be a Scientologist helpdesk employee who
> plans to vacation in Europe but doesn't have a big budget and so plans to
> spend his time there mostly watching television.
>
> - Logan
That's right you tell him. ;-)
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== 10 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:13 am
From: Markku Grönroos
"Lookout96" <mrLookout@yahoo.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:1206899630_1092@pronews.com...
> Logan Shaw wrote:
>> Lookout wrote:
>>> Do you think I care? I am only here for one thing. Can you figure it
>>> out?
>>
>> Well, given the contents of the Newsgroups: line, that'd be either
>> (a) helpdesk support
>> (b) something about Scientology
>> (c) travel in Europe
>> (d) living on the cheap
>> or
>> (e) Television in the UK
>>
>> Given that your moniker is "lookout", which could suggest mild paranoia
>> and a keen desire to constantly remain aware of what might lie in wait
>> ready to trap you in some way, I'm going to guess (a) helpdesk, but I
>> could be wrong.
>>
>> Then again, I guess you could be a Scientologist helpdesk employee who
>> plans to vacation in Europe but doesn't have a big budget and so plans to
>> spend his time there mostly watching television.
>>
>> - Logan
>
> That's right you tell him. ;-)
>
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== 11 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:13 am
From: Markku Grönroos
"Logan Shaw" <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> kirjoitti
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> Lookout wrote:
>> Do you think I care? I am only here for one thing. Can you figure it out?
>
> Well, given the contents of the Newsgroups: line, that'd be either
> (a) helpdesk support
> (b) something about Scientology
> (c) travel in Europe
> (d) living on the cheap
> or
> (e) Television in the UK
>
> Given that your moniker is "lookout", which could suggest mild paranoia
> and a keen desire to constantly remain aware of what might lie in wait
> ready to trap you in some way, I'm going to guess (a) helpdesk, but I
> could be wrong.
>
> Then again, I guess you could be a Scientologist helpdesk employee who
> plans to vacation in Europe but doesn't have a big budget and so plans to
> spend his time there mostly watching television.
>
> - Logan
== 12 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:13 am
From: Markku Grönroos
"Lookout96" <mrLookout@yahoo.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:1206899338_1091@pronews.com...
> Lookout wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:19:17 GMT, "Tralfamador" <Tralf@freeserve.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lookout wrote:
>>> because he is a
>>>> pure
>>>> racist.
>>>>
>>> And the racism thing... Bad idea is bad IMHO.
>>>
>> Check the headers. The "lookout' the posted that is from Usenetserver,
>> just a lonely troll using my nick.
>
> The transportation grease monkey is stupid. ;-)
>
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== 13 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:23 am
From: Fred Kasner
Tralfamador wrote:
> spack wrote:
>> In article <19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-40093a50cd54
>> @p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, olaalaa1@gmail.com says...
>>> Allah (God)
>>>
>> <tedious bollocks snipped>
>>
>> Thanks for this. If I want to find out about Islam or any other mass
>> delusions, I'll ask.
>
> Why do we want to leap in and denounce theist diatribes. Why should we cut
> in between a group of theists and confront them with our rational, atheistic
> logic? Many times we are confronted with a plaintive "Why can't we agree to
> disagree and respect each others points of view?" I will try to explain my
> own personal stance here. Enough is enough! It's time to draw that line in
> the sand.
>
> For too long, for millennia, since man first started to form societies we
> have had our view of the universe tainted with religion. To say that theists
> have had a fair crack at the whip would be understatement in the extreme.
> Theistic dogma has caused more misery, more wars, more suppression and held
> back the discovery of the universe we inhabit than any other invention.
>
> From the indoctrination of generations of innocent, inquiring children in
> the home, through schools and their mandatory acts of worship of fictitious,
> vengeful gods, the foul distortions introduced by the likes of the Dover
> School Board, the theft of a woman's right to control of her own body, the
> intrusion of a false morality upon our daily lives and the stifling of
> science.
>
> All these things must stop! It is no longer a matter of respect, of
> tolerance or of agreeing to disagree. The stakes are far too high. No! You
> cannot blow people up in the name of your mythical being. No! You cannot
> kill doctors who choose to help women regain control of their lives. No! You
> cannot divert money that should be healing the sick to spend on your
> costumes and buildings. No! You cannot tell me how to think anymore. No! You
> cannot claim that your damn stupid, lame, small minded little creation myth
> has equal value to Darwin's evolution and modern cosmology.
>
> The time has come to leave the nursery, cast off these childish, dangerous
> stories and grow the fuck up! Religion has sapped enough of mans resources.
> Time, money, effort, emotion and whole damned races have been swallowed up
> by these deluded zealots.
>
> Every theist that EVER went into battle always had a god on their side.
> Every poor sap who worked till they dropped was promised their reward after
> their death. The crippled, the sick, the outcast and the insane have turned
> to religion and been rewarded with nothing except vacuous empty promises.
> It's time to stop the madness. It's time to confront this awful cancer, this
> creeping, insidious lie. It's time to free humanity from the shackles of the
> past. from the guilt. from the original sin. from the inferiority. It's time
> to stop the killing. The gang mentality. Them and us. The threats of heaven,
> the lure of hell, the hell of the faithful.
>
> Theists, you've had your chance. You've had millennia of chances. Look at
> the planet now. Is it better for religion or does the worlds major human
> conflicts have their very basis in religion. Theism is a mind numbing death
> shroud for humanity. It can not be allowed to continue. We have to stop
> lying to our children. To ourselves.
>
> This is why I leap in and denounce theists wherever I find them. If I upset
> a few simpletons who cannot think outside their late bronze age shackles
> then so be it. But your not going to poison this race forever. If you
> theists have your way you will be the end as you always predicted. Self
> fulfilling prophecy.
>
> I will do my level best to rid my race of this handicap. The future of man
> lies in the stars. Our Earth is finite, eventually our sun will leave the
> main sequence and go red giant. If we're not out of here by then we, as a
> race. are doomed. It is science that is our route to our true home in the
> universe. You can't pray your way out of this one.
>
> T
>
>
Red giant? When? about a few billion years from now. The likelyhood that
something resembling "man" still exists by then? Near zero. We will
likely somewhere along that path be eradicated by some other natural
disaster. A couple of a billion years is a very long time indeed and
long before that time we had better find another home or we will die here.
And for your amusement consider the proper question of the theists is
"What preceded the big bang and what caused the actual conditions that
created a bing bang possibility? And why not a god that created all and
then lost interest in the result> First principles are as questionable
in science as theology. Perhaps you had better get used to the idea of
an unknowable and stop thinking that the logic of science is free of
illogical first assumptions as is religion.
FK
== 14 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:25 am
From: Fred Kasner
Lookout wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:31:46 -0400, Shawn Hirn <srhi@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <1206881983_1079@pronews.com>,
>> "Lookout2.0" <mrLookout@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lookout wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:53:47 +0100, spack <spack@home.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-40093a50cd54
>>>>> @p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, olaalaa1@gmail.com says...
>>>>>> Allah (God)
>>>>>>
>>>>> <tedious bollocks snipped>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for this. If I want to find out about Islam or any other mass
>>>>> delusions, I'll ask.
>>>> snicker
>>> Why are you doing that? There is no god according to you, but you are on
>>> your way to hell --- snicker. You can run but you can't hide. I am not
>>> going to cut you up too much, just a little bit. ;-)
>> Proof?
>
> I have the idiot filtered so I didn't see his comment.
> Religionists don't need proof. I've asked for it repeatedly but they
> just can't seem to back up their fairy tale.
And there are no fairy tales in the first principles of science?
FK
== 15 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:27 am
From: catchme
Lookout wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:53:47 +0100, spack <spack@home.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <19dd678b-48e6-4200-aad2-40093a50cd54
>> @p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, olaalaa1@gmail.com says...
>>> Allah (God)
>>>
>> <tedious bollocks snipped>
>>
>> Thanks for this. If I want to find out about Islam or any other mass
>> delusions, I'll ask.
>
> snicker
why must an atheist reply to every single religious post?
do you peek in churches and synagogues also and pronounce your (lack of)
faith?
"hay peeps; i have no belief!"
;-)
== 16 of 16 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:29 am
From: Fred Kasner
Meng wrote:
> Lookout wrote:
>> Religionists don't need proof. I've asked for it repeatedly but they
>> just can't seem to back up their fairy tale.
>
> That's because they usually fall back on the "if you have faith you
> don't need proof" explanation which is the biggest load of cop-out BS ever.
>
>
First principles are always an act of faith. Why faith? Because it is
most convenient and avoids the prior conditions questions. Pleading
ignorance about the first principles levels all organized approaches to
the same inability to prove anything.
FK
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 9:28 am
From: "hallerb@aol.com"
On Mar 30, 9:34�am, "Bill" <billnomailnosp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "willshak" wrote in message
>
> > How about a coil of soft copper tubing attached to the rear of the
> > woodstove before it goes into your storage tank ( a coil like on the back
> > of a dehumidifer) which would transfer heat by convection rather than
> > radiation?
>
> I've read a book on steam boilers and know just enough about the subject to
> want to avoid creation of any steam. I've read about steam boilers exploding
> and being launched like a rocket up out of the house and landing on a
> neighbor's house, etc.
>
> Also I would think that avoiding steam would depend on a pump circulating
> the water. I live in a rural area and we have frequent power outages.
> Sometime they last for 2 days.
T&P valve anywhere in hot water circuit should open if steam etc is
created...........
ideally old tank would have its own T&P valve........
did you know the old side arm how water tanks common in the 60s used a
copper tube coil in a gas burner for water heating. noi circuliating
pump, must of been from natural convention..........
long time ago i was a little kid
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 9:31 am
From: "hallerb@aol.com"
On Mar 30, 11:28 am, "hall...@aol.com" <hall...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 9:34�am, "Bill" <billnomailnosp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "willshak" wrote in message
>
> > > How about a coil of soft copper tubing attached to the rear of the
> > > woodstove before it goes into your storage tank ( a coil like on the back
> > > of a dehumidifer) which would transfer heat by convection rather than
> > > radiation?
>
> > I've read a book on steam boilers and know just enough about the subject to
> > want to avoid creation of any steam. I've read about steam boilers exploding
> > and being launched like a rocket up out of the house and landing on a
> > neighbor's house, etc.
>
> > Also I would think that avoiding steam would depend on a pump circulating
> > the water. I live in a rural area and we have frequent power outages.
> > Sometime they last for 2 days.
>
> T&P valve anywhere in hot water circuit should open if steam etc is
> created...........
>
> ideally old tank would have its own T&P valve........
>
> did you know the old side arm how water tanks common in the 60s used a
> copper tube coil in a gas burner for water heating. noi circuliating
> pump, must of been from natural convention..........
>
> long time ago i was a little kid
googled side arm hot water tank and look what turned up
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 10:27 am
From: "NapalmHeart"
"Bill" <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:654bunF2e2n0aU1@mid.individual.net...
> As you may know, an electric water heater can be 30% of your electric
> bill...
>
> Well I got to thinking... I have this nice woodstove which puts out a
> lot of heat and it is always 80 to 100 degrees (F) next to the
> woodstove.
>
> Is there some way I can use this heat to "pre-heat" the water going
> into my hot water heater????
>
> Well I came up with an idea and tried it out. It works!
<snip>
I've done this before and did notice a difference in energy usage and in
recovery time.
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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: The Definition
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:30 am
From: "Rod Speed"
The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote
> News reader wrote
>> Runge11 wrote
>>> yes, forgetting what your own country is doing to the rest of the world. Take a mirror and look at yourself.
>> Yeah the U.S. doesn't help the world out at all. We saved France from becoming Germany.
> Russia actually.
Both, actually. And a lot more too.
>> We saved the Hebrews from becoming eradicated.
> Huh?
>> We freed the Afgans from the Taliban and Al-Queda.
> Huh?
> We took out the cruel
>> dictator from Iraq. But we only get criticized for the 'misery and
>> death' that we cause. In my opinion the U.S. should remind the world
>> exactly what good we do, by backing out of world affairs for a bit,
>> and then watch the world go to hell in a hand basket. And then say
>> "I told you so." when the world insists that we start helping again.
> Golly. You really believe all that BS?
You clearly believe yours.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:33 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Ayatollah of rock 'n' roller <thisisf@lse.co.ck> wrote
> The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote
>> News reader wrote
>>> Runge11 wrote
>>>> yes, forgetting what your own country is doing to the rest of the world. Take a mirror and look at yourself.
>>> Yeah the U.S. doesn't help the world out at all. We saved France from becoming Germany.
>> Russia actually.
> I also think you'll find that the British army also helped a bit here and there
Nope, without the yanks they wouldnt have lasted long.
They'd have put their hands up just like the frogs did.
> (together with other armies of course).
Without the yanks they wouldnt have been able to do anything useful.
> Funking yanks, eh lads?
Truth hurts, eh child ?
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:34 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Peter Bruells <usernet@rogue.de> wrote
> Ayatollah of rock 'n' roller <thisisf@lse.co.ck> writes
>> The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote
>>> News reader wrote
>>>> Runge11 wrote
>>>>> yes, forgetting what your own country is doing to the
>>>>> rest of the world. Take a mirror and look at yourself.
>>>> Yeah the U.S. doesn't help the world out at all.
>>>> We saved France from becoming Germany.
>>> Russia actually.
>> I also think you'll find that the British army also helped a
>> bit here and there (together with other armies of course).
> The Canadians also get forgotten.
Without the yanks, they wouldnt have been able to do anything much.
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TOPIC: Surviving in New York on 99 cents
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 11:38 am
From: "Rod Speed"
cswansonlbcbo@gmail.com wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Donna wrote
>>>>>>>> George Grapman <sfgeo...@paccbell.net> wrote
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/dining/26ninety.html?_r=1&ref=dinin...>
>>>>>>>> Interesting story. Our dollar stores are not that great around here and
>>>>>>>> often carry really inferior products. I'm thinking NYC has more to offer.
>>>>>>> The 99-Cents-Only stores in the Los Angeles (and other, I guess)
>>>>>>> area carry a lot of foreign food (mostly China, but not
>>>>>>> exclusively), a variety of name-brand sausage/hotdog products,
>>>>>> Trouble is that those are made from surplus cats and dogs and rats.
>>>>>>> fresh vegetables and fruits, a lot of exotic sauces (the
>>>>>>> Philippine banana sauce was pretty bland, but wotthehell) and a
>>>>>>> nice variety of brand-name toothpaste and deodorant as well as a
>>>>>>> lot of imported bathroom needs and cleaning supplies. Like
>>>>>>> Fry's, you could live in a 99-Cents-Only store :-)
>>>>>>> http://www.99only.com/
>>>>>>> I love those stores. The penny-a-minute long distance cards
>>>>>>> alone are worth the price of admission.
>>>>>> You're better off with voip.
>>>>> Until your internet connection goes down. VOIP is fine
>>>>> for social calls or for companies with offices in different
>>>>> countries that need to call each other but I would not want
>>>>> my business to customer calls dependent on that service.
>>>> There arent likely to be too many businesses that rely on
>>>> penny-a-minute long distance cards alone, cretin.
>>> But some businesses do rely on VOIP
>> None rely on penny-a-minute long distance cards alone, cretin.
>>> and the inherent problems were pointed out.
>> Nope, you fucked that up completely. Any properly
>> implemented voip system falls back to the PSTN fuckwit.
> And that requires paying the monthly per line fees for both
> local and long distance service that VOIP is supposed to avoid.
But avoids the call charges except when the broadband is down.
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