Frugal Living: Oct 21, 2007

Sunday, October 21, 2007

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TOPIC: Strange behavior with the toilet
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1a2b719501c31543?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 12:20 am
From: GWB

Do you have a dog?

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TOPIC: best sercive!! lowest price!!(www.alibabaunion.com)wholesale air jordan
max dunk LV chanel parda dior gucci
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 3:22 am
From: alibabaunion01@gmail.com

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rift.

Prada,Adidas,Puma,Timberland,Bapesta,G-unit,Ice Cream

Bags
Chanel bags,Louis Vuitton bags,Gucci bags,Hermes bags,Coach bags

Clothes
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Hoody Jacket Jeans Coat

Watches such as Chael,Rolex...

Suglasses like Chanel,Gucci,Dior...

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TOPIC: HDTV (ATSC) converter
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/51e50c60e676b9ff?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 6:59 am
From: Petepenguin@webtv.net (P T)

Jeff

>I'd like to try a separate tuner.
>A converter box, so to speak.
>After much web searching I've found
>nothing for less than the cost of
>my monitor.

About a year ago I bought a refurb Samsung T451 (or 351?) atsc tuner on
ebay for $140 or so. I see my local Craigs List had one listed a month
ago for ~$115. I think these have a variety of outputs that should
satisfy your requirements. Too expensive? I think the day of the $40
atsc tuner has not yet arrived.

OTA digital signals can be astoundingly good. Even standard def can look
very good, and I realize how mediocre my cable signal is. However, atsc
signals are excellent or terrible: no middle ground like an ntsc tuner.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 7:50 am
From: Jeff

Dennis wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:36:42 -0400, Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:
>
>
>> After the last thread (on LCD power consumption) and some looking
>>around I wound up with a used Dell 2001FP (~$170). This has multiple
>>inputs (including S Video) and Picture in Picture. Nice.
>>
>> Now I could get one of the PCI digital cards mentioned before, but
>>I'd like to try a seperate tuner. A converter box, so to speak. After
>>much web searching I've found nothing for less than the cost of my monitor.
>>
>> Any suggestion on devices with digital tuners and either S Video or
>>composite out? With a year to the digital TV only cutoff date I would
>>have thought the world would be full of these devices.
>
>
> I've never seen one. One problem is, you can't get HD through Svideo
> or composite connectors. They only work with a 480i signal.

I don't know why that never occured to me. It's a whole new world of
acronyms and I'm clearly behind the times.

Oddly, until PTs follow up post I hadn't thought of all the different
resolution outputs that the digital signal carries.

So
> you're not likely to find an HD tuner device with those outputs (one
> exception is HD satellite TV boxes that down-convert HD and put it out
> on Svideo, but it isn't realy HD anymore).
>
> For HD, you commonly see devices with component (RGB), DVI or HDMI
> outputs/inputs. Sometimes VGA.
>
> With the Dell monitor, you can view SDTV (480i NTSC) via the composite
> or Svideo connectors, or HDTV (720p or 1080i) via the DVI or VGA
> connectors. As I've mentioned before, I use an ATSC HD tuner card in
> a PC to watch HD on my Dell monitor, using the DVI connector from the
> PC's video card. Works great.

Then that's what I'll do. I've been waiting for Vista before I
upgraded (I'm at 2000) but it looks like I'll find an XP licence and go
that route. Then the card.

I remember reading Serbian blogs during the Kosovo war. Discontent
soared after NATO took down television broadcasts and the war ended
shortly thereafter. If it wasn't for the penetration of cable and it's
longer transition time, I'd be expecting riots as transition
preparations are not apparent now.

Jeff
>
>
> Dennis (evil)

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TOPIC: Best Frugal Thing this Week
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/54f892eefc6b3a22?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 9:48 am
From: Derald

Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:

>I've found one of the more interesting ways to spend a little time
>is striking up conversations with strangers.
You mean that's *you* there on the bench by the scale up at the
Publix? Wow.

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TOPIC: wholesale sport shoes,clothing,electronics in china www.shopbb.com
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a07d40ac5bb5731d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 9:09 am
From: "shopbb.com"

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Jordan 1 jordan 1.5 jordan 2 jordan 3 jordan 3.5 jordan 4 jordan 5
jordan 5.5 jordan 6 jordan 6.5 jordan 7 jordan 8 jordan 9 jordan 9.5
jordan 10 jordan 11 jordan 12 jordan 13 jordan 13.5 jordan 14 jordan
15 jordan 16 jordan 17 jordan 18 jordan 18.5 jordan 19 jordan 20
jordan 21 jordan 21.5 jordan 22 jordan King jordan Dub Zero Jordan 23
Jordan 7.5
2).Air Force One Air Force one (low) Air Force one (High) Air Force
one (Mid) Air Force one (clear) Air Force One 25 year
3).SHOX Shox R3 Shox R4 Shox R5 Shox TL1 Shox TL2 Shox TL3 Shox NZ
Shox OZ Shox Turbo Show GO Shox CL Shox Coqnescenti Shox Energia Shox
Explodine Shox Monster Shox Rhythmic Shox Warrior
4).Bape Shoes Bape Bape (transparent)
5).Air max AirMax 90 AirMax 95 AirMax 97 AirMax 2003 AirMax 2004
AirMax 2005 Air Max 2006 AirMax 180 AirMax LTD AirMax TN AirMax solas
AirMax 87 AirMax Rift
6).Puma Puma Rpt2 Puma SK6 Puma Jayfi Puma Cir Puma Speed Puma Repli
Puma Future Cat Puma Mostro Puma Lifestyle
7).Dunk SB Dunk High Dunk Low
8).Timberland Timberland High Timberland Low
9).Adidas Adidas 35 Adicolor Country city sense Adidas NBA
11).Prada & Gucci Prada Gucci
12).Footballer Shoes Footballer
13).Locaste
14).converse & Reebok converse Reebok
15).D&G shoes
16).Dsquared2 shoes
17).James shoes
18).Nike King
9).Children shoes Jordan Shox
20).Women shoes Women Jordans Women Shox R3 Women Shox R4 Women AirMax
95&97 Women AirMax 03&06 Women Dunk Women Shox NZ Women AF1
21).sandal & baboosh Nike Puma Gucci Prada
CLOTHES 1).Bape 2).ED Hardy 3).BBC 4).CLH 5).LRG 6).Artful Dodger
Hoodies 7).GINO GREEN GLOBAL 8).10 Deep 9).A&F Coat 11).Jersey NBA
Jersey Football Jersey 12).Juicy Bikini 13).Adidas Coat 14).F1 Coat
15).D&G Coat 16).Superman Coat 17).NBA Coat
JEAN 1).E&D Jeans 2).BBC Jeans 3).BAPE Jeans 4).D&G Jeans 5).EVSIU
Jeans 6).Red monkey 7).COOGI Jeans
T-shirt 1).POLO 2007 polo(women) 2007 POLO IIII(Men) POLO (stripe)
polo (small )
2).Lacoste Lacoste (LONG) Lacoste (SHORT) 3).Name Brand shirt D&G
Shirt Giorgio Armani TN Shirt 4).BBC T-shirt 5).LRG & gina green
glalal 6).Triumvir 7).ED handy 8).Evsiu 9).R.M.B 10).CLOT
Burse & Handbag 1).LV Bag 2).Gucci Bag 3).Dior Bag 4).Chanel Bag
5).Fendi Bag 6).Coach Bag 7).Burberrys Bag 8).Prada Bag 9).Man Leisure
Bag 11).D&G bag 12).nike bag 13).Wallet 14).Suitcase
Electronics 1).Vertu Mobile 2).New iphone Mobile 3).Nokia Mobile
4).moto Mobile 5).PSP Game & memory card 6).Sony Mobile 7).Samsung
Mobile 8).Ipod nano 9).Sony PS3 10).Laptops IBM laptops DELL laptops
Sony laptops ASUS laptops
CAP 1).ED Hardy Cap 2).New Bape & NY Cap 3).RMC Cap 4).New era NBA
5).F1 6).Chanel 7).D&G 8).gucci 9).LV 10).Prada 11).PUMA 12).wool
WATCH 1).Rolex 2).Omega 3).Cartier 4).Chanel 5).Piaget 6).Breitling
7).Bvlgari 8).Corum
Sunglasses 1).Gucci Sunglasses 2).D&G Sunglasses 3).Dior Sunglasses
4).LV Sunglasses 5).Chanel Sunglasses 6).Prada Sunglasses 7).Versace
Sunglasses 8).Giorgio Armani
Strap 1).Bape Strap 2).D&G Strap 3).Gucci Strap 4).LV Strap 5).Scarf
Other 1).Lighter

size chart
Men Size:
US: 7 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 13 14 15
UK: 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 12 13 14
EUR: 40 41 42 42.5 43 44 44.5 45 45.5 46 47.5 48 49
Women Size:
US: 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5
UK: 2.5 3 3.5 4 4.5 5 5.5 6
EUR: 35.5 36 36.5 37.5 38 38.5 39 40

Kid's
US: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5 13 13.5
UK: 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5
EUR:17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 24.5 25 25.5 26 26.5 27 27.5 28 29 30 30.5
31

Clothing Size:
S M L XL XXL XXXL XXXXL XXXXXL

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http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ce6fc3cd5ecae08a?hl=en
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TOPIC: 2008 Olympic China Beijing Hotel Standard Apartment,Villa Reservation
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Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 10:37 am
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 11:31 am
From: Siskuwihane

On Oct 20, 3:13 pm, "joe brown" <j...@www.com> wrote:
> George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > Don K wrote:
> >> "George" <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> >>news:IY2dnQDUcILNAoXanZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>> joe brown wrote:
>
> >>>>> I went to Milwaukee on business a few years back. I was shocked
> >>>>> at how many homes - especially condos and apartments - had
> >>>>> satellite dishes just stuck on the sides and roofs of buildings
> >>>>> with absolutely no consideration given to aesthetics whatsoever.
> >>>>> Here in SoCal no homeowners' association would ever allow that
> >>>>> kind of fugly dish placement.
> >>>> Only fools let goons like that tell them what they can and cannot
> >>>> do.
> >>> Or people that might care about how their surroundings look.
>
> >> Sometimes functionality takes precedence over aesthetics.
>
> >> Suppose you decided that round wheels look ugly on cars and square
> >> wheels would look nicer. Would you drive around with square wheels?
>
> >> Don
>
> > I understand what you are saying but I think this thread isn't
> > "anti-dish" but more "stupid installations of dishes" such as where
> > the OP had observed the all too common scenario where there is a
> > house with nice architecture and the dish is just slapped onto the
> > easiest available surface in front of the house.
>
> It should go on the side of the house thats got the best view of the satellite.
>
> That should see the 'problem' only visible on one side of the street, the other
> side of the street should mostly have the dishes on the back side of the house
> if the street runs EW or close.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

"Should go" doesn't mean a thing to the "tech" who comes to install
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 12:39 pm
From: "joe brown"

Siskuwihane <Siskuwihane@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 20, 3:13 pm, "joe brown" <j...@www.com> wrote:
>> George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Don K wrote:
>>>> "George" <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:IY2dnQDUcILNAoXanZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> joe brown wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> I went to Milwaukee on business a few years back. I was shocked
>>>>>>> at how many homes - especially condos and apartments - had
>>>>>>> satellite dishes just stuck on the sides and roofs of buildings
>>>>>>> with absolutely no consideration given to aesthetics whatsoever.
>>>>>>> Here in SoCal no homeowners' association would ever allow that
>>>>>>> kind of fugly dish placement.
>>>>>> Only fools let goons like that tell them what they can and cannot
>>>>>> do.
>>>>> Or people that might care about how their surroundings look.
>>
>>>> Sometimes functionality takes precedence over aesthetics.
>>
>>>> Suppose you decided that round wheels look ugly on cars and square
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>>
>>>> Don
>>
>>> I understand what you are saying but I think this thread isn't
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>>> the OP had observed the all too common scenario where there is a
>>> house with nice architecture and the dish is just slapped onto the
>>> easiest available surface in front of the house.
>>
>> It should go on the side of the house thats got the best view of the
>> satellite.
>>
>> That should see the 'problem' only visible on one side of the
>> street, the other side of the street should mostly have the dishes
>> on the back side of the house if the street runs EW or close.- Hide
>> quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> "Should go" doesn't mean a thing to the "tech" who comes to install
> it. Whatever is easiest is where it will go.

Pity that if its put on the side of the house with no view
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 21 2007 12:30 pm
From: Dawn

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:19:12 -0400, Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> This winter, my plan is to use my wood stove a lot less.
>>>
>>>Jeff
>>>
>>>
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>
> I've got enough wood stacked for the season, but I really don't want
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>
> I've been going solar and adding insulation the last few years so my
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>
> Jeff

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Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 7:14 pm
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Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 7:48 pm
From: "Joe"

<condor_222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1192892086.781796.225800@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> Hello,
>
> I have an older toilet. A few years ago, I
> changed all the parts inside the tank. It
> has worked fine since then. Until now.
>
> Lately, it has an odd pattern. I flush the
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> I've watched them.
>
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>
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>
> Does anyone have any idea what might be
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>
> Thanks a lot!

We have the same problem here... Mine is caused by a crack in teh bowl that
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go out slowly over the course of 4-6 hours... Sometimes it disappears but
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My neighbor had the same problem. theirs turned out to be a small piece of
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I'm guessing that yours might be caused by item #1 above and that you shoudl
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 7:57 pm
From: "hallerb@aol.com"

On Oct 20, 10:48?pm, "Joe" <really-faked-but-wo...@yunx.com> wrote:
> <condor_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192892086.781796.225800@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I have an older toilet. A few years ago, I
> > changed all the parts inside the tank. It
> > has worked fine since then. Until now.
>
> > Lately, it has an odd pattern. I flush the
> > toilet. The tank and bowl refill fine.
> > I've watched them.
>
> > Then I come back next time. And the bowl is
> > almost empty!
>
> > And, it only seems to happen intermittently.
>
> > It's really bizarre.
>
> > Does anyone have any idea what might be
> > causing this, and the solution?
>
> > Thanks a lot!
>
> We have the same problem here... Mine is caused by a crack in teh bowl that
> allows water to seep through to teh drain (but not the floor thank God!) and
> go out slowly over the course of 4-6 hours... Sometimes it disappears but
> whenever we do a good cleaning, it reappears. We presume it is the "stuff"
> that either gets stuck in the crack or grows there...
>
> My neighbor had the same problem. theirs turned out to be a small piece of
> dental floss caught in the bowl drain that would not come loose (???) and
> acted like a candle wick allowing water to drip down the drain all day...
>
> I'm guessing that yours might be caused by item #1 above and that you shoudl
> pull the bowl to look for water leaking into the floor below the bowl ASAP
> lest you have rotting problems.
> --
>
> Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R
>
> Currently Riding The "Mother Ship"http://yunx.com/valk.htm
>
> Ride a motorcycle in or near NJ?http://tinyurl.com/5apkg
>
> Political Video:http://tinyurl.com/2v4avg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I have a unvented basement toliet here that started doing this, a week
or so later found main drain clogged.

my theory, up till total clog things would back up then flow violently
sucking water out of bowl......

I put rocksalt in washtub by next day things were moving again

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 8:24 pm
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Gary Heston wrote:
> In article <georgek-DBB72E.06131019102007@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
> A Veteran <georgek@humboldt1.com> wrote:
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