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TOPIC: tips for career devlopments
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 3:12 pm
From: clams_casino
priya wrote:
>please visit the sites you get
>more informations, downloads,
>IT informations etc.,
>
>
Do you provide a block for all the associated spam?
Now THAT would be an interesting devlopment.
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 3:59 pm
From: "3877" <3877@nospam.com>
clams_casino wrote:
> Joe Negron wrote:
>
>> On 2010-01-07, Ablang <ron916@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> 20 Ways to Cut Your Grocery Bills
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> 5. Drink tap water. Almost all municipal water in America is so good
>>> that nobody ever needs to drink water from Italy or France (or
>>> Maine, for that matter). Getting the recommended eight glasses a
>>> day from
>> -------------------------------------------
>> This is a myth. Google "eight glasses water daily myth" or
>> check snopes.com.
>>
>>
>>
> It should really be six to eight equivalent glasses of liquids
> (drinks, vegetables, fruits, etc).
Still wrong in winter without house heating.
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 4:04 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Lou wrote:
> "clams_casino" <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote in message
> news:1It1n.2658$ZB2.787@newsfe13.iad...
>> Joe Negron wrote:
>>
>>> On 2010-01-07, Ablang <ron916@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> 20 Ways to Cut Your Grocery Bills
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> 5. Drink tap water. Almost all municipal water in America is so
>>>> good that nobody ever needs to drink water from Italy or France
>>>> (or Maine, for that matter). Getting the recommended eight glasses
>>>> a day from
>>>>
>>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>> This is a myth. Google "eight glasses water daily myth" or
>>> check snopes.com.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> It should really be six to eight equivalent glasses of liquids
>> (drinks, vegetables, fruits, etc).
>
> Since suffering through my third kidney stone a few weeks ago, I've
> been seeing a urologist. He recommends 96 ounces (3 US quarts) of
> fluid a day, and recommends it be mostly, if not all, water. But
> it's really just a rule of thumb, how much fluid a person needs
> varies with circumstance - someone running a marathon on a hot summer
> day requires more water than those watching TV on a cold winter
> night. A possibly better rule of thumb is to produce 3 quarts of urine a day
I dont produce anything like that, not even half that and have
never ever had a kidney stone in well over half a century now.
> - again, that will require drinking more fluids on hot active days than on cool, inactive ones.
> The "eight glasses" a day standard means next to nothing - a "glass"
> isn't a standard unit of measure, and beverage glasses in my kitchen
> cupboard run from four to sixteen ounces apiece.
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 6:01 pm
From: "Lou"
"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hi7pjc$eeh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Lou wrote:
>
> >> It should really be six to eight equivalent glasses of liquids
> >> (drinks, vegetables, fruits, etc).
> >
> > Since suffering through my third kidney stone a few weeks ago, I've
> > been seeing a urologist. He recommends 96 ounces (3 US quarts) of
> > fluid a day, and recommends it be mostly, if not all, water. But
> > it's really just a rule of thumb, how much fluid a person needs
> > varies with circumstance - someone running a marathon on a hot summer
> > day requires more water than those watching TV on a cold winter
> > night. A possibly better rule of thumb is to produce 3 quarts of
> > urine a day - again, that will require drinking more fluids on hot
> > active days than on cool, inactive ones.
>
> Since a large part of the water you consume is lost as perspiration and
moisture
> in exhaled air, I seriously doubt the the "3 quarts of urine" is good
advise.
Well, my doctor advised on input, not output. But it was clear from the
conversation that what he was aiming for was a lot of throughput for the
kidneys - the less concentrated the urine, the lower the likelihood of
forming another stone. Also, I had to take a 24 hour urine test, and one of
the things measured is volume. Mine was slightly over 3 liters (which is
more than 3 quarts) and he pronounced that good. He also said that there's
a kidney stone season - basically more people have more stones during the
summer because it's more difficult to drink enough to compensate for
increased perspiration. Lastly, one author (Piers Anthony) wrote that he
had a kidney stone, and his doctor prescribed a gallon of urine a day -
drink however much water was necessary to p*** a gallon a day, regardless of
how much water vapor you exhale and how much you sweat.
I'll grant that this is a small sample (only two adults) and both are male,
and somewhat past 30 (in my case, I've been a little past 30 for somewhat
longer than 360 months), and everyone's an individual. For all I know, you
could be a smaller than average female in her teens. But please pardon me
if I doubt your doubts.
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 6:07 pm
From: "Lou"
"h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Napoleon" <anarch@666yes.net> wrote in message
> news:7seek51a0s9qkoe6h9up4ettjndmp06avu@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 20:26:18 -0500, "Lou" <lpogoda@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I don't know what Napolean's definition of groceries is, but at
$175/month
> >>for two people, it seems doubtful that non-food items are included.
> >
> > It includes non-food items. But I will add an extra 20 a month for
> > additional milk, bread, or cat food at times. So that is about $195 a
> > month, including all non-food items.
>
> The two of us spend almost exactly $200/month on food, toiletries, and
paper
> products, etc. combined, including food, treats, and litter for our three
> cats. We low carb, so we buy practically no prepared foods. We eat meat,
> dairy, and vegetables with some fruit as dessert and not much else. We
make
> most things from scratch including mustard, salad dressing, etc., but mayo
> is one of the few "prepared" foods I buy.
Since you're "into" cooking, I'm a little surprised that you buy mayo - it's
extremely simple to make with a blender and takes maybe 5 minutes. It's
maybe a little longer with an electric mixer, but not much.
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 6:03 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Lou wrote
> Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote
>> Lou wrote
>>>> It should really be six to eight equivalent glasses
>>>> of liquids (drinks, vegetables, fruits, etc).
>>> Since suffering through my third kidney stone a few weeks ago, I've
>>> been seeing a urologist. He recommends 96 ounces (3 US quarts) of
>>> fluid a day, and recommends it be mostly, if not all, water. But
>>> it's really just a rule of thumb, how much fluid a person needs
>>> varies with circumstance - someone running a marathon on a hot
>>> summer day requires more water than those watching TV on a cold
>>> winter night. A possibly better rule of thumb is to produce 3
>>> quarts of urine a day - again, that will require drinking more
>>> fluids on hot active days than on cool, inactive ones.
>> Since a large part of the water you consume is lost as perspiration
>> and moisture in exhaled air, I seriously doubt the the "3 quarts of
>> urine" is good advise.
> Well, my doctor advised on input, not output. But it was clear from
> the conversation that what he was aiming for was a lot of throughput
> for the kidneys - the less concentrated the urine, the lower the
> likelihood of forming another stone. Also, I had to take a 24 hour
> urine test, and one of the things measured is volume. Mine was
> slightly over 3 liters (which is more than 3 quarts) and he
> pronounced that good. He also said that there's a kidney stone
> season - basically more people have more stones during the summer
> because it's more difficult to drink enough to compensate for
> increased perspiration. Lastly, one author (Piers Anthony) wrote
> that he had a kidney stone, and his doctor prescribed a gallon of
> urine a day - drink however much water was necessary to p*** a gallon
> a day, regardless of how much water vapor you exhale and how much you
> sweat.
It certainly does make sense to work on the piss volume
if you are trying to avoid kidney stones, because thats
what matters as far as the more diluted piss is concerned.
The very fundamental problem with that sort of doctor's recommendation
tho is that they only see those that get kidney stones. They dont see those
who piss a lot less than they recommend and dont get kidney stones anyway.
> I'll grant that this is a small sample (only two adults) and both are
> male, and somewhat past 30 (in my case, I've been a little past 30
> for somewhat longer than 360 months), and everyone's an individual.
> For all I know, you could be a smaller than average female in her
> teens. But please pardon me if I doubt your doubts.
I'm a male more than twice as old as you and I dont piss anything like that
much, not even half that much and have never ever had a kidney stone.
And none of my relatives have ever had one either.
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 6:14 pm
From: "Lou"
"Brian Elfert" <belfert@visi.com> wrote in message
news:J8GdnUY9kvJ3_9rWnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@posted.visi...
> "Lou" <lpogoda@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> >For a family of two in the 19-50 year old bracket, the USDA estimates
food
> >costs fell between $79.50 and $158.20 for November of 2009 for a
nutritious
> >diet where all meals and snacks are prepared at home.
>
> This must be per week, as there it would be pretty hard to have a
> nutritious diet for two for $80 a month or under $3 a day. Fresh produce
> is not cheap.
That's right, this is the estimated weekly cost during the month of November
in the year 2009. The monthly cost comes to $344.50 to $685.50. My
reference is
http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/Publications/FoodPlans/2009/CostofFoodNov09.pdf
Sorry for the omission.
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 8:43 pm
From: "h"
"Lou" <lpogoda@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
> news:hi7sn5$euh$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>
>> "Napoleon" <anarch@666yes.net> wrote in message
>> news:7seek51a0s9qkoe6h9up4ettjndmp06avu@4ax.com...
>> > On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 20:26:18 -0500, "Lou" <lpogoda@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>I don't know what Napolean's definition of groceries is, but at
> $175/month
>> >>for two people, it seems doubtful that non-food items are included.
>> >
>> > It includes non-food items. But I will add an extra 20 a month for
>> > additional milk, bread, or cat food at times. So that is about $195 a
>> > month, including all non-food items.
>>
>> The two of us spend almost exactly $200/month on food, toiletries, and
> paper
>> products, etc. combined, including food, treats, and litter for our three
>> cats. We low carb, so we buy practically no prepared foods. We eat meat,
>> dairy, and vegetables with some fruit as dessert and not much else. We
> make
>> most things from scratch including mustard, salad dressing, etc., but
>> mayo
>> is one of the few "prepared" foods I buy.
>
> Since you're "into" cooking, I'm a little surprised that you buy mayo -
> it's
> extremely simple to make with a blender and takes maybe 5 minutes. It's
> maybe a little longer with an electric mixer, but not much.
>
I've found that homemade mayo doesn't keep as long, and I hate making really
tiny batches of anything.
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Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 8:11 pm
From: Shawn Hirn
In article <georgeswk-81546A.10053908012010@news.toast.net>,
VFW <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote:
> I would start my education if I had to do it all over again with travel.
> So many youth are rushed off to college without "life" experience and
> fast tracked into a field that pays big.
> How about a more focused route whereby said youth found out more about
> the world and discovered more about what they might have a real passion
> in. Maybe art?
> anyway, once they have a few years under their belt and know what they
> really want, then the true hard work of schooling can begin.
> I call it You U.
> You custom design what you want to learn with maybe a degree. Then
> you'll find an employer who recognizes that passion and you follow your
> dream while earning a decent wage.
> The highest paying job may not be the best goal. Follow your bliss.
> and Good Luck!
Sounds good, but passion without a usable skill isn't good preparation
for a career in most industries.
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