Frugal Living: Jul 22, 2008

Tuesday, July 22, 2008

25 new messages in 6 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Healthy for whom? Re: The 20 Healthiest Foods for Under $1 - 7 messages, 5
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e7ad251f9a434d38?hl=en
* Online Liquor Store - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2cd4659abfda1def?hl=en
* I found natural cures for gout un-frugal - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5e8bd7f7a0ebe36c?hl=en
* Which inexpensive top loader washer to buy? - 12 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/144a47e00593d20c?hl=en
* Car Depreciation - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5d4818ede437a0f5?hl=en
* Cooling Cost - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2332fd61c54eaee9?hl=en

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TOPIC: Healthy for whom? Re: The 20 Healthiest Foods for Under $1
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e7ad251f9a434d38?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 9:43 am
From: max

In article
<d00b3a34-2ec2-4a90-95a2-d84e874570cc@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 22, 11:35 am, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > <http://www.divinecaroline.com/articles/printer_friendly/22145/52070>
> >
> > --
> > Evelyn C. Leeper
> > Just because everything is different doesn't mean
> > anything has changed. -Irene Peter
>
> Several are no no for gout. Egg consumption has to be limited.
> Broccoli intake must be monitored if you're on blood thinner. Peanuts
> are banned on airlines.

oh, do shut up.

.max

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== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 11:59 am
From: clams_casino

James wrote:

>On Jul 22, 11:35 am, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>><http://www.divinecaroline.com/articles/printer_friendly/22145/52070>
>>
>>--
>>Evelyn C. Leeper
>>Just because everything is different doesn't mean
>>anything has changed. -Irene Peter
>>
>>
>
>Several are no no for gout. Egg consumption has to be limited.
>Broccoli intake must be monitored if you're on blood thinner. Peanuts
>are banned on airlines.
>
>
>
What can you expect from a spammer who drops cookies with their spam site?

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 12:50 pm
From: max

In article <Z5qhk.1392$JK7.808@newsfe02.iad>,
clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:

> James wrote:
>
> >On Jul 22, 11:35 am, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >><http://www.divinecaroline.com/articles/printer_friendly/22145/52070>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Evelyn C. Leeper
> >>Just because everything is different doesn't mean
> >>anything has changed. -Irene Peter
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Several are no no for gout. Egg consumption has to be limited.
> >Broccoli intake must be monitored if you're on blood thinner. Peanuts
> >are banned on airlines.
> >
> >
> >
> What can you expect from a spammer who drops cookies with their spam site?

Evelyn Leeper a spammer? surely you jest!

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== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 1:01 pm
From: lisajoe@privacy.net

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:12:34 -0700 (PDT), in misc.consumers.frugal-living James
<j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Jul 22, 11:35 am, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> <http://www.divinecaroline.com/articles/printer_friendly/22145/52070>
>>
>> --
>> Evelyn C. Leeper
>> Just because everything is different doesn't mean
>> anything has changed. -Irene Peter
>
>Several are no no for gout. Egg consumption has to be limited.
>Broccoli intake must be monitored if you're on blood thinner. Peanuts
>are banned on airlines.

If you'v GOT gout get GOUT OUT NOW!

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 1:52 pm
From: yag

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:12:34 -0700 (PDT), James <j0069bond@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Several are no no for gout. Egg consumption has to be limited.
>Broccoli intake must be monitored if you're on blood thinner. Peanuts
>are banned on airlines.

Those of us without gout, don't give ashit.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 2:02 pm
From: clams_casino

yag wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:12:34 -0700 (PDT), James <j0069bond@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>Several are no no for gout. Egg consumption has to be limited.
>>Broccoli intake must be monitored if you're on blood thinner. Peanuts
>>are banned on airlines.
>>
>>
>
>Those of us without gout, don't give ashit.
>
>

So what do you do for your constipation?

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 2:28 pm
From: Al Bundy

On Jul 22, 5:02 pm, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> yag wrote:
> >On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:12:34 -0700 (PDT), James <j0069b...@hotmail.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>Several are no no for gout. Egg consumption has to be limited.
> >>Broccoli intake must be monitored if you're on blood thinner. Peanuts
> >>are banned on airlines.
>
> >Those of us without gout, don't give ashit.
>
> So what do you do for your constipation?

Maybe he proofreads his posts on his laptop, but the glasses and teeth
are on the counter as he waits.

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TOPIC: Online Liquor Store
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2cd4659abfda1def?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 10:09 am
From: syxz420nuvbhurlyvgn3m@gmail.com

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TOPIC: I found natural cures for gout un-frugal
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5e8bd7f7a0ebe36c?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 10:18 am
From: spope33@speedymail.org (Steve Pope)

Mark Thorson <nospam@sonic.net> wrote:

>I never use any anti-gout drug, because I can control
>my gout through diet.

You got some amazing pain tolerance then.

>I especially would not use
>an anti-gout drug just to allow myself to eat more
>high-risk foods.

I agree that one can be better off addressing such issues with
diet where possible. But it's unclear whether you can
*know* you're fully controlling it, since disease progress
may not be causing overt symptoms.

Steve

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 11:20 am
From: Mark Thorson

Steve Pope wrote:
>
> Mark Thorson <nospam@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> >I never use any anti-gout drug, because I can control
> >my gout through diet.
>
> You got some amazing pain tolerance then.

I haven't had any significant pain in 8 years.
I have had the occasional warning sign of soreness
just barely perceptible, which I use as a sign
to go on a strict anti-gout diet. Pretty much
every time that happens, it's because I strayed
from my meat-eating guidelines.

> >I especially would not use
> >an anti-gout drug just to allow myself to eat more
> >high-risk foods.
>
> I agree that one can be better off addressing such issues with
> diet where possible. But it's unclear whether you can
> *know* you're fully controlling it, since disease progress
> may not be causing overt symptoms.

I've never heard of sub-clinical crypto-gout.
I know fairly accurately how much meat I can
eat in a day. It's about 5 ounces of fresh
meat. I eat about 3 ounces. That's one
sausage, half a steak, or a small piece of
fish.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 11:26 am
From: spope33@speedymail.org (Steve Pope)

Mark Thorson <nospam@sonic.net> wrote:

>Steve Pope wrote:

>> I agree that one can be better off addressing such issues with
>> diet where possible. But it's unclear whether you can
>> *know* you're fully controlling it, since disease progress
>> may not be causing overt symptoms.

>I've never heard of sub-clinical crypto-gout.

"Joint damage progresses and may continue even between flares.
Clinical research suggests that monosodium urate crystals persist
as long as hyperuricemia persists."

http://www.gout.com/professional/gout_information/gout_progression.aspx

The risk, I think, is osteoarthritis secondary to gout/hyperuricemia.
One could experience a progressive cartilage deficit in a joint or
joints without symptoms for quite some time.

Not trying to be alarmist, and statements like the above quote
may not be truly evidence-based, just pointing to the possible
benefits of uricemia treatment or, at least, monitoring.

Steve

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TOPIC: Which inexpensive top loader washer to buy?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/144a47e00593d20c?hl=en
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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 10:28 am
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply

Goomba wrote:
>
> pssssst... a top loading washer *is* a "REGULAR" washing machine.
> Perhaps you're thinking of a front loader? Which are also "REGULAR"
> washers in much of the world, and becoming so in the US also. Love the
> way they use less water and energy.

Hello, BDRU! (brain dead 'R' us) I am having an insane morning at work.

My mom had front-loaders with slanted fronts when I was little. I
remember watching the clothes and the soapsuds going around all the
time. But they are MUCH more expensive than the standard washing
machine that has been sold in the US for ages. So "cheapish" is
something I would really worry about, since many of the newer models
still had bugs that hadn't been worked out.

== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 10:43 am
From: Seerialmom

On Jul 22, 9:06 am, Goomba <Goomb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote:
>
> > If you want a cheapish washing machine that is a good value, first,
> > forget the top-loaders because they all are expensive and second, look
> > on Craigslist or in the local newspaper classifieds for someone with
> > year-old model REGULAR washing machines that they are getting rid of
> > because they are remodeling *rolling eyes*, and you should get a good deal.
>
> pssssst... a top loading washer *is* a "REGULAR" washing machine.
> Perhaps you're thinking of a front loader? Which are also "REGULAR"
> washers in much of the world, and becoming so in the US also. Love the
> way they use less water and energy.
> For what its worth-I love my Duet front loader.

I'm finally glad I have a front loader now that the water meters have
been installed on my street. Before this I wasn't seeing all that
much of a difference because I rarely used hot water to wash, so it
didn't help on the electric bill. But the water bill should stay
relatively low.

== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 10:45 am
From: Seerialmom

On Jul 22, 10:28 am, Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
<samh...@TRASHsonic.net> wrote:
> Goomba wrote:
>
> > pssssst... a top loading washer *is* a "REGULAR" washing machine.
> > Perhaps you're thinking of a front loader? Which are also "REGULAR"
> > washers in much of the world, and becoming so in the US also. Love the
> > way they use less water and energy.
>
> Hello, BDRU! (brain dead 'R' us) I am having an insane morning at work.
>
> My mom had front-loaders with slanted fronts when I was little. I
> remember watching the clothes and the soapsuds going around all the
> time. But they are MUCH more expensive than the standard washing
> machine that has been sold in the US for ages. So "cheapish" is
> something I would really worry about, since many of the newer models
> still had bugs that hadn't been worked out.

There are some front loaders that aren't as ridiculously priced.
Granted the capacity is a bit smaller but not that much. It would
depend on cost to run whether to get one or not (water heating, water
usage).

== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 10:55 am
From: Goomba

Seerialmom wrote:

> There are some front loaders that aren't as ridiculously priced.
> Granted the capacity is a bit smaller but not that much. It would
> depend on cost to run whether to get one or not (water heating, water
> usage).

Actually, the biggest draw for many is how MUCH clothing can be packed
into some of these newer front loaders. Since the clothes themselves
provide the momentum and don't require a lot of space for agitation and
water.
I could kick myself for not getting one of these years ago when they
first came out and I had more kids laundry to do. I also love being able
to wash my large duvets, etc..

== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 1:01 pm
From: lisajoe@privacy.net

In most of Europe they use front loaders and top loaders are considered archaic
and deficient.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:28:13 -0700, in misc.consumers.frugal-living Samantha
Hill - remove TRASH to reply <samhill@TRASHsonic.net> wrote:

>Goomba wrote:
>>
>> pssssst... a top loading washer *is* a "REGULAR" washing machine.
>> Perhaps you're thinking of a front loader? Which are also "REGULAR"
>> washers in much of the world, and becoming so in the US also. Love the
>> way they use less water and energy.
>
>Hello, BDRU! (brain dead 'R' us) I am having an insane morning at work.
>
>My mom had front-loaders with slanted fronts when I was little. I
>remember watching the clothes and the soapsuds going around all the
>time. But they are MUCH more expensive than the standard washing
>machine that has been sold in the US for ages. So "cheapish" is
>something I would really worry about, since many of the newer models
>still had bugs that hadn't been worked out.

== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 1:05 pm
From: Dennis

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:45:29 -0700 (PDT), Seerialmom
<seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jul 22, 10:28 am, Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
><samh...@TRASHsonic.net> wrote:
>> Goomba wrote:
>>
>> > pssssst... a top loading washer *is* a "REGULAR" washing machine.
>> > Perhaps you're thinking of a front loader? Which are also "REGULAR"
>> > washers in much of the world, and becoming so in the US also. Love the
>> > way they use less water and energy.
>>
>> Hello, BDRU! (brain dead 'R' us) I am having an insane morning at work.
>>
>> My mom had front-loaders with slanted fronts when I was little. I
>> remember watching the clothes and the soapsuds going around all the
>> time. But they are MUCH more expensive than the standard washing
>> machine that has been sold in the US for ages. So "cheapish" is
>> something I would really worry about, since many of the newer models
>> still had bugs that hadn't been worked out.
>
>There are some front loaders that aren't as ridiculously priced.
>Granted the capacity is a bit smaller but not that much. It would
>depend on cost to run whether to get one or not (water heating, water
>usage).

Plus, many energy efficient front-load models are eligible for rebates
and tax credits (your location may vary). After the retailer
discount, utility incentive rebate and state tax credit, our front
loader cost us less than US$300.

Dennis (evil)
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== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 1:08 pm
From: Dennis

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:43:49 -0700 (PDT), Seerialmom
<seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I'm finally glad I have a front loader now that the water meters have
>been installed on my street. Before this I wasn't seeing all that
>much of a difference because I rarely used hot water to wash, so it
>didn't help on the electric bill. But the water bill should stay
>relatively low.

If you use clothes dryer (ours is electric), you may see utility bills
drop with a front-loader because it spins more water out of the
clothes = shorter drying time.

Dennis (evil)
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dodging the bullet and pushing the envelope. -George Carlin

== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 2:07 pm
From: Cheapo Groovo

The James Washer is really good and sustainable!

http://tiny.cc/vosKi

See http://www.cheapogroovo.com for more tips

In article <48860239$0$17217$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
samhill@TRASHsonic.net says...
> me@privacy.net wrote:
> > Cost is an issue but need a new washer.
> >
> > What brand/model cheapish top loader would you guys
> > advise that is a decent performer and a good "value"?
>
> None of them are cheap.
>
> If you want a cheapish washing machine that is a good value, first,
> forget the top-loaders because they all are expensive and second, look
> on Craigslist or in the local newspaper classifieds for someone with
> year-old model REGULAR washing machines that they are getting rid of
> because they are remodeling *rolling eyes*, and you should get a good
> deal.
>

== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 2:09 pm
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply

Seerialmom wrote:
>
> There are some front loaders that aren't as ridiculously priced.
> Granted the capacity is a bit smaller but not that much. It would
> depend on cost to run whether to get one or not (water heating, water
> usage).

Seriously? Would you know the brand names? I would truly, sincerely
like to know.

== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 2:10 pm
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply

lisajoe@privacy.net wrote:
> In most of Europe they use front loaders and top loaders are considered archaic
> and deficient.

And until the last few years, I have considered front loaders to be
archaic and the top loaders to be the best. Funny, huh?

== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 2:11 pm
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply

Cheapo Groovo wrote:
> The James Washer is really good and sustainable!
>
> http://tiny.cc/vosKi

YEAH!!!!! I really want one of those. And they are a top-loader, too.

== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 2:27 pm
From: Goomba

lisajoe@privacy.net wrote:
> In most of Europe they use front loaders and top loaders are considered archaic
> and deficient.

We liked the front loader washers in Europe that turn into dryers. Talk
about feeling like a jet engine is taking off!! LOL They were smaller
in load capacity but for small homes and families they were ideal solutions.

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TOPIC: Car Depreciation
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5d4818ede437a0f5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 11:57 am
From: James

On Jul 22, 11:43 am, George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> nicksans...@ece.villanova.edu wrote:
> > James <jl...@idirect.com> wrote:
>
> >> All cars take a huge hit once they are driven off the lot...
>
> > I just stopped at a Smart Car dealer and noticed the $13-15K new car stickers
> > and asked if they had any used Smart Cars for sale. The salesperson pointed
> > to one on the lot and said it just sold for $21K, after 2 months of use.
> > ("The owner had too many cars.") It was no fancier than the new cars.
> > I asked why the price was higher, and she said Smart Cars APpreciate
> > as they leave the lot.
>
> > Nick
>
> Thats because there is a 14 month waiting list to get one. My buddy got
> his about two months ago after a 1 year wait. He placed the order at a
> traveling show Smart had in Philly. The dealer said they were also
> getting a big premium on new "orphans". They said some people had
> ordered the car a year ago and bought something else in the meantime so
> the dealer can then sell it for whatever they can get.
>
> Like all things this is simply market timing. When we were in Philly
> looking at the Smartcars before they were imported to the US the one
> Daimler guy was a little chatty and he said they were somewhat concerned
> about even bringing them here. The US was the last country to get them
> because back then everyone in the US needed to drive a huge fluffed up
> truck even though they were only transporting themselves and a large
> beverage. In another year other manufacturers will have similar vehicles
> and things will adjust.

You could come up to Canada and take your pick.

I know that bringing cars in from the US can take a week for the
paperwork to process and cost you a thousand or more. But dealers in
Canada have lots, and they are exactly the same models as in the US
(slightly higher MSRP though). I expect the US paperwork would be
similar to Canada's.

When they came to Canada in 2003, they outsold Mercedes expectations.
They do work fine in the snow (with snow tires from dealer) . They are
not desigjned to cruise at 75 MPH all day, but they can drive the
limit everywhere.

They have a well designed safety cage - go to you tube and search for
the footage of a Mercdes E class and a Smart car colliding.

Most of the critics didn't like the transmission.

James

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TOPIC: Cooling Cost
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2332fd61c54eaee9?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 11:58 am
From: "JR Weiss"

"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote...
>
> I had the window fan on for 14 hours consumed 70Kw. Had the AC on 1
> hour for 40 to 50Kw. One hour of AC didn't lower the temperature but
> took moisture out of the air. It was pretty humid overnight and I was
> able to lower the house from 82 to 76 after 14 hours.

?!? I think you need to brush up on your math and electrical terms...

First, KW or KiloWatt is an energy consumption RATE. Electrical consumption is
measured in KWH or kilowatt-hours, which is the product of the consumption rate
and consumption time.

Second, I don't know where you got a window fan that consumes 5000 Watts (70 KWH
/ 14 hours) or 41.7 amps at 120 Volts. I doubt you have a circuit in your house
that can handle that!

You MIGHT have a fan that consumes 500 Watts, which would make for 7 KWH in 14
hours...

Then there's the AC... 45 KW is over 187 amps at 240 volts. I really doubt
that you have that kind of circuit in a house... Like the fan, i suspect you
have to divide by 10 again to get a realistic figure (4-5 KWH)

> The night before I had the AC on instead and that took 240Kw.

> Based on this one observation it seems cheaper to use window fan at
> night to cool my house.

Depends on what you define as "cool"...

You put up with 86+ deg and high humidity with the window fan running all day.
That means you could EASILY put up with 88-90 deg with low humidity by running
the AC. There's no real need to cool the house to 76!

When I lived in south TX, I kept the AC set at 82-84 deg. That was plenty cool
after coming out of the heat!

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 2:32 am
From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu

The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

>If you've GOT gout get Gout Out. Now.

Given gout, get Gout Out.

Nick

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 6:16 am
From: notbob

["Followup-To:" header set to rec.food.cooking.]
On 2008-07-22, nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu <nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu> wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>If you've GOT gout get Gout Out. Now.
>
> Given gout, get Gout Out.

Screw off! It's a scam by crooks not even reputable enough to be called
quacks.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 8:23 am
From: CurlyQue

Mark Thorson wrote:
> CurlyQue wrote:
>> Mark Thorson wrote:
>>> I only mentioned colchicine because the original poster
>>> asked for a natural cure.
>> Yes that's correct, however, 'natural' or not, colchicine is nasty stuff
>> with far more potential negative side effects then allopurinol and I
>> won't go anywhere near it myself.
>
> I never use any anti-gout drug, because I can control
> my gout through diet. I especially would not use
> an anti-gout drug just to allow myself to eat more
> high-risk foods.

Different strokes.....

Without braunschweiger sandwiches, my life isn't worth living.

Curly

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 8:51 am
From: Dennis

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:55:40 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

>lisajoe@privacy.net wrote:
>
>>
>> If you have gout get Gout Out!
>
>If you've GOT gout get Gout Out. Now.

I'm confused -- how do I apply it?

Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 2:42 am
From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu

James <jlinn@idirect.com> wrote:

>All cars take a huge hit once they are driven off the lot...

I just stopped at a Smart Car dealer and noticed the $13-15K new car stickers
and asked if they had any used Smart Cars for sale. The salesperson pointed
to one on the lot and said it just sold for $21K, after 2 months of use.
("The owner had too many cars.") It was no fancier than the new cars.
I asked why the price was higher, and she said Smart Cars APpreciate
as they leave the lot.

Nick

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 6:11 am
From: James

On Jul 21, 8:21 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 21, 1:14 pm, James <jl...@idirect.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 21, 3:14 pm, "OhioGuy" <n...@none.net> wrote:
>
> > > Recently, I made a post regarding whether our house payment could be
> > > considered a form of savings. During the discussion, someone brought up
> > > making a car payment, and asked if I would consider that savings.
>
> > > A number of folks chipped in with their various views. Many of them
> > > considered depreciation.
>
> > > Well, we have a 1969 Ford Econoline van that I got for $500. We also have
> > > a Dodge Caravan (van) that we also paid $500 for. Then we have a 1996 Buick
> > > Century that we've had since 2002, when it was given to us as a wedding
> > > present.
>
> > > So we have a grand total of $1,000 in 3 vehicles. From my point of view,
> > > there really isn't a whole lot of depreciation to be had. I do most of the
> > > maintenance myself. If we had do, I think we could probably sell these 3
> > > vehicles for $3,500 or so. The true value is that each is dependable, well
> > > cared for, and is insurance against ever having to make a car payment, or
> > > have to take out a car loan.
>
> > > Plus, each serves a specific purpose. The older van we bought to go
> > > camping. We don't have to set up and take down a tent, and it works out
> > > great in colder or wet weather. The newer van is good for medium trips
> > > where we want a bit more room. The Buick is best for city driving and long
> > > distance driving when it is just 1 or 2 people, and the best mileage is
> > > desired.
>
> > > For some folks, automobile depreciation isn't much of a financial issue.
> > > We only have 2.5% of our annual income invested in our 3 autos. Of course,
> > > we will probably put in more money into fixing some things up than might be
> > > true with newer vehicles. Plus, it will take more time for maintenance on
> > > my part. However, that is essentially a hobby that I enjoy, and something I
> > > can do with my son to teach him about tools & such, so I don't consider that
> > > a negatived aspect at all.
>
> > All cars take a huge hit once they are driven off the lot, and most
> > continue to depreciate over time (except some classic cars, which
> > start out depreciating, level off then appreciate). Its definately a
> > front end loaded process - thats why its good to buy a 2 or 3 year
> > old vehcile, because they have already been depreciated a significant
> > amoutn, but may still have warranty left.
>
> > Once you reach a certain rock bottom, book values become somewhat
> > meaningless -unless its a car that you can no longer get easy access
> > to parts for.
>
> > If you have a good eye you can buy old cars and increase the value,
> > but many people try and fail at that game. Many classics are sold for
> > less than recent restoration efforts.
>
> > North American cars definately have a rock bottom - the price at which
> > they are worth more as parts cars/scrap than they are as a running
> > vehicle.
>
> > James- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Try telling that to the folks on Craigslist trying to get $3500+ for
> the non-running 62 Dodge Dart sitting in grandpa's barn that hasn't
> been on the road since 72. :)- Hide quoted text -

I did mention that some people buy old cars and make them appreciate
in value. But many people loose their shirts when they discover that
parts are scarce and repairs more extensive than they thought.

Very common is the "$5,000 invested" car selling for $4,995.

That old Dodge Dart could be highly collectable, or totally unwanted
and thats a big difference in whether "investing" is worth it. Problem
is that what is interesting to collectors or collectable is highly
variable. You could watch the Barrett Jackson auctions and pick what
popular, and by the time you rstore, the market has changed.

Best to think of it this way, if its interesting to you, then do what
you like and enjoy, and if you can turn around and sell it at a
profit, then consider yourself lucky, if not, its a hobby not an
investment.

James

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 6:22 am
From: James

On Jul 22, 5:42 am, nicksans...@ece.villanova.edu wrote:
> James <jl...@idirect.com> wrote:
> >All cars take a huge hit once they are driven off the lot...
>
> I just stopped at a Smart Car dealer and noticed the $13-15K new car stickers
> and asked if they had any used Smart Cars for sale. The salesperson pointed
> to one on the lot and said it just sold for $21K, after 2 months of use.
> ("The owner had too many cars.") It was no fancier than the new cars.
> I asked why the price was higher, and she said Smart Cars APpreciate
> as they leave the lot.

I live in Canada, where Smart Cars have been on the market for years.
There is no shortage of them, and they do depreciate like any other
car.

She is an idiot or a clever salesperson or both. Who would pay more
for used when new was available.

The only time I've seen used cars appreciate is when a new car is
introduced and demand takes off shortly after launch and there isn't
enough supply to meet demand. But what generally happens is the new
car dealers ask for a premium for the new cars until the supply
catches up. So the market evens out. It takes companies months to ramp
up production sometimes, so thats how long the condition lasts.

Personally, I wouldn't buy one. I think a Toyota Yaris or Honda Fit is
cheaper, more practical, and pretty fuel efficient.

James

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 8:43 am
From: George

nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu wrote:
> James <jlinn@idirect.com> wrote:
>
>> All cars take a huge hit once they are driven off the lot...
>
> I just stopped at a Smart Car dealer and noticed the $13-15K new car stickers
> and asked if they had any used Smart Cars for sale. The salesperson pointed
> to one on the lot and said it just sold for $21K, after 2 months of use.
> ("The owner had too many cars.") It was no fancier than the new cars.
> I asked why the price was higher, and she said Smart Cars APpreciate
> as they leave the lot.
>
> Nick
>
Thats because there is a 14 month waiting list to get one. My buddy got
his about two months ago after a 1 year wait. He placed the order at a
traveling show Smart had in Philly. The dealer said they were also
getting a big premium on new "orphans". They said some people had
ordered the car a year ago and bought something else in the meantime so
the dealer can then sell it for whatever they can get.

Like all things this is simply market timing. When we were in Philly
looking at the Smartcars before they were imported to the US the one
Daimler guy was a little chatty and he said they were somewhat concerned
about even bringing them here. The US was the last country to get them
because back then everyone in the US needed to drive a huge fluffed up
truck even though they were only transporting themselves and a large
beverage. In another year other manufacturers will have similar vehicles
and things will adjust.

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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
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From: clams_casino

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 4:40 am
From: Al Bundy

On Jul 19, 11:02 pm, du...@clear.net.nz wrote:
> Need a shopping list and go without your partner/husband as he will
> always add extra items and then be surprised at the cost at the
> checkout!

A list might be helpful for "must have" items if one has a poor
memory.
A person should have a rough idea of the dollar amount going into
their cart or basket so they don't get cheated at the checkout.
Having a person shop with you should pose no problem either. If that
person needs something, why not save the extra trip? Who pays for what
is a matter of personal choice. If you have no willpower, then you're
dead anyway.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 5:23 am
From: James

On Jul 22, 12:24 am, ghes...@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
> In article <5db0fc04-4a6a-4255-91c6-728a444d3...@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Overnight lows are usually around 70 even after 90+ highs where I
> >live.
> >I had the window fan on for 14 hours consumed 70Kw. [ ... ]
>
> Your fan pulls 5000 watts? That's a really big fan. I think your
> numbers are a bit off...
>
> Gary
>
> --
> Gary Heston ghes...@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
>
> Why is it that these days, the words "What idiot" are so frequently
> followed by the words "at Microsoft"?

Instead of Kw use units. I'll have to check the meter to see what's a
unit. It's probably 500 watts including fridge & lights, TV, etc.

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 7:26 am
From: me@privacy.net

Cost is an issue but need a new washer.

What brand/model cheapish top loader would you guys
advise that is a decent performer and a good "value"?

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 7:32 am
From: Goomba

me@privacy.net wrote:
> Cost is an issue but need a new washer.
>
> What brand/model cheapish top loader would you guys
> advise that is a decent performer and a good "value"?

Go to the library, or subscribe to the online version, and read
Consumer's Reports.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 8:52 am
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply

me@privacy.net wrote:
> Cost is an issue but need a new washer.
>
> What brand/model cheapish top loader would you guys
> advise that is a decent performer and a good "value"?

None of them are cheap.

If you want a cheapish washing machine that is a good value, first,
forget the top-loaders because they all are expensive and second, look
on Craigslist or in the local newspaper classifieds for someone with
year-old model REGULAR washing machines that they are getting rid of
because they are remodeling *rolling eyes*, and you should get a good
deal.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 9:06 am
From: Goomba

Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote:

> If you want a cheapish washing machine that is a good value, first,
> forget the top-loaders because they all are expensive and second, look
> on Craigslist or in the local newspaper classifieds for someone with
> year-old model REGULAR washing machines that they are getting rid of
> because they are remodeling *rolling eyes*, and you should get a good deal.

pssssst... a top loading washer *is* a "REGULAR" washing machine.
Perhaps you're thinking of a front loader? Which are also "REGULAR"
washers in much of the world, and becoming so in the US also. Love the
way they use less water and energy.
For what its worth-I love my Duet front loader.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 9:00 am
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:21:38 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

>Dan Birchall wrote:
>
>> bashley101+usenet@gmail.com (The Real Bev) wrote:
>>> I'm sorry, I know it's evil to repeat spam, but this is one of the best
>>> ones I've ever read. I have no idea at all what he's trying to sell and
>>> can't even make a guess!
>>>
>>> cheng wrote:
>>>
>>> > Now registers the member to bestow 50 integrals! PayPal
>>
>> Obviously he's selling integrals. Didn't you take calculus? :)
>
>No, I was an English major!
>
>It's probably some sort of code signalling an attack on something.
>Perhaps we should turn him in to...uh... What if he's NSA?

Someone is attacking calculus? Hmmm, probably that dental liberation
group.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 8:48 am
From: Dennis

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:00:17 -0600, hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:21:38 -0700, The Real Bev
><bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Dan Birchall wrote:
>>
>>> bashley101+usenet@gmail.com (The Real Bev) wrote:
>>>> I'm sorry, I know it's evil to repeat spam, but this is one of the best
>>>> ones I've ever read. I have no idea at all what he's trying to sell and
>>>> can't even make a guess!
>>>>
>>>> cheng wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Now registers the member to bestow 50 integrals! PayPal
>>>
>>> Obviously he's selling integrals. Didn't you take calculus? :)
>>
>>No, I was an English major!
>>
>>It's probably some sort of code signalling an attack on something.
>>Perhaps we should turn him in to...uh... What if he's NSA?
>
>Someone is attacking calculus? Hmmm, probably that dental liberation
>group.

Are they the ones pushing for more cavity searches at points of entry?

Dennis (evil)
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 8:35 am
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 9:12 am
From: James

On Jul 22, 11:35 am, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
> <http://www.divinecaroline.com/articles/printer_friendly/22145/52070>
>
> --
> Evelyn C. Leeper
> Just because everything is different doesn't mean
> anything has changed. -Irene Peter

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 22 2008 9:43 am
From: max

In article
<d00b3a34-2ec2-4a90-95a2-d84e874570cc@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:

oh, do shut up.

.max

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