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Today's topics:
* Cheap things to do with your kids - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5687c834d5e2ac40?hl=en
* Most effective grease removal from clothes? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/50e041b05a439b9e?hl=en
* what to do with old Dot Matrix printer? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/433f3de03338791a?hl=en
* We made cheese last night - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/91832ba91485bee1?hl=en
* Tempur-pedic mattresses - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/43adee80a5b65a7e?hl=en
* Where do you get your best buys in cat food? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/0890e14d22167708?hl=en
* Batteries: Pays to shop around - 6 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5e9668558de59929?hl=en
* OT - Survivalism Retail Style - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/da641b3711ca2726?hl=en
* lawyer - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/7039aa17533ebb21?hl=en
* Work at Home United Information - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/49f3cce05ad1cdcb?hl=en
* The last time spam. I am Isaac Newton. I will appear in Jerusalem. According
to "the Hebrew Bible", my date of birth can be calculated. I am a hero. I will
tell you what is "Armageddon". I think that Chinese people like dogs. I will
take the yellow people and the black people into concentration camps. When you
see me, I will make you feel Speechless. I will take Barack Obama and
Condoleezza Rice into concentration camps, I think that the black people and
Latino like dogs. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9e5f4f86b942eff8?hl=en
* Sales Taxes on Web Purchases - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Cheap things to do with your kids
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5687c834d5e2ac40?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 4:02 pm
From: "Nicik Name"
"OldRoads" <oldroads@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:28296588-94c1-47f8-9cb3-1a9094f1f29e@o40g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> You don't need to shell out big bucks taking your kids to an amusement
> park or water park, etc.
> There are plenty of other free things to do:
>
> - Take a hike
> - Ride your bicycles on the local Rail Trail
> http://www.trails.com/activities.aspx?area=12399
> - Go fishing
> - Go to the beach
> - Go camping
>
> Other ideas??
dont have any
>
> Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles
> http://OldRoads.com
>
>
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 4:35 pm
From: Silfax
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:59:55 -0800, OldRoads regurgitated the following
>
> Other ideas??
>
Check out your local college campus, there is usually some free
entertainment available there.
--
Silfax
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 8:55 pm
From: Shawn Hirn
In article
<28296588-94c1-47f8-9cb3-1a9094f1f29e@o40g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
OldRoads <oldroads@hotmail.com> wrote:
> You don't need to shell out big bucks taking your kids to an amusement
> park or water park, etc.
> There are plenty of other free things to do:
>
> - Take a hike
> - Ride your bicycles on the local Rail Trail
> http://www.trails.com/activities.aspx?area=12399
> - Go fishing
> - Go to the beach
> - Go camping
>
> Other ideas??
See a minor league baseball game
Go bowling
Play tennis
Play touch football
Visit a library
Bake cookies together
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TOPIC: Most effective grease removal from clothes?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/50e041b05a439b9e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 4:06 pm
From: "Nicik Name"
"brassplyer" <brassplyer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:248516b3-dc95-45c1-b458-9c8d05dcdeb8@q30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> Grease stains seem to be really tenacious. Thinking primarily
> petroleum-based grease - automotive etc. Anyone found a product or
> combination of products a/or methods that's really effective getting
> it out without damaging the cloth?
Borax?
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TOPIC: what to do with old Dot Matrix printer?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/433f3de03338791a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 4:09 pm
From: art.shapiro@unisys.com (Arthur Shapiro)
In article <gkgm5e$cc5$1@news.ett.com.ua>, OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote:
> I've got a roughly 19 year old Panasonic KXP-1124 dot matrix printer
>that I haven't used a lot in the past year or so.
That was generally considered the best consumer-level dot matrix printer in
the late 80's, and really did a fine job. As a totally off-topic anecdote: I
remember going to purchase it at one store - Comp USA? - and then going
elsewhere because they were giving a free Panasonic bicycle with each printer!
(I don't ride low end bicycles). One guy had five bicycles strapped atop his
car.
There's utterly no need for most folks to have a dot matrix printer these
days, but for someone printing multi-part forms it would stll be valuable. It
wouldn't hurt to throw it on your local CraigsList, if you're in a big enough
area where the Computer listings get a lot of traffic.
I can appreciate your reluctance to trash it; I think we all have stuff that
we'll never use again but just intuitively seems to have some value.
Art
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TOPIC: We made cheese last night
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/91832ba91485bee1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 4:24 pm
From: "Nicik Name"
"Rick" <rick@quesocabezafarm.com> wrote in message
news:3126a8c6-1c19-4bf4-9f8b-27ed9c34f542@f11g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> Hello all,
>
> We attended a short class on how to make cheese last night. It turned
> out very nice.
>
> We did a very basic recipe.
> 1 gal milk (we used whole milk)
> 1 tsp calcium chloride (because we didn't h have raw milk)
> 1/2 cup lemon juice (to seperate the curds and wey)
>
> After we pressed it through the cheese cloth, we salted it to taste.
>
> Unsalted, it tasted like flour paste. It wasn't very pleasant at
> all. However, after it sat for a few minutes with the salt mixed in,
> the flavor was much better.
>
> It made about a pound - the size of softball.
>
> How many people make their own cheese here?
> What knid do you make?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBPYopcoeqs&feature=channel_page
>
> Regards,
>
> Rick Boesen
> Olivet, MI
> www.FiberArtFest.com
> www.QuesoCabezaFarm.com
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TOPIC: Tempur-pedic mattresses
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/43adee80a5b65a7e?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 4:27 pm
From: "JR Weiss"
"spendwize.com" <info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com> wrote...
> Anyone have opinions on the tempur-pedic mattresses? I'm considering
> buying one but I wonder:
> Can you use it as effectively on a platform bed as on the special
> boxspring they promote
> How pricey do you have to go to get a really good one
> I DO know that the warranty with this item is tricky- has a few loopholes
> - for example, if the mattress has any liquid spilled on it at all, the
> warranty is totally nullified.
I've had one for about 3 years now. My wife & I both like it a lot. Motion is
not transmitted across the mattress like with innerspring types, and it remains
very comfortable with no sign of sagging.
I don't know the current pricing. More regular and discount mattress stores are
carrying them now, so you should be able to get some good deals. Of the 3 price
levels of the Tempurpedic that were available when we bought, the middle one
suited us best.
Don't know about your interpretation of the warranty... I don't recall anything
like that.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 8:24 pm
From: Goomba
JR Weiss wrote:
> I've had one for about 3 years now. My wife & I both like it a lot. Motion is
> not transmitted across the mattress like with innerspring types, and it remains
> very comfortable with no sign of sagging.
>
> I don't know the current pricing. More regular and discount mattress stores are
> carrying them now, so you should be able to get some good deals. Of the 3 price
> levels of the Tempurpedic that were available when we bought, the middle one
> suited us best.
>
> Don't know about your interpretation of the warranty... I don't recall anything
> like that.
>
I've had mine about five years and my back feels much better since! I
also have the feature that allows you to adjust its positions, which is
nice like now-sitting in bed with the laptop while watching TV. Mine is
a king sized, and cost just under 5K.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 9:38 pm
From: "Evelyn"
"Goomba" <Goomba38@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6t57n3F944daU2@mid.individual.net...
> JR Weiss wrote:
>
>> I've had one for about 3 years now. My wife & I both like it a lot.
>> Motion is not transmitted across the mattress like with innerspring
>> types, and it remains very comfortable with no sign of sagging.
>>
>> I don't know the current pricing. More regular and discount mattress
>> stores are carrying them now, so you should be able to get some good
>> deals. Of the 3 price levels of the Tempurpedic that were available when
>> we bought, the middle one suited us best.
>>
>> Don't know about your interpretation of the warranty... I don't recall
>> anything like that.
>>
> I've had mine about five years and my back feels much better since! I also
> have the feature that allows you to adjust its positions, which is nice
> like now-sitting in bed with the laptop while watching TV. Mine is a king
> sized, and cost just under 5K.
I have had mine for 8 years and love it. It is excellent in several ways.
It is hypo-allergenic, impervious to water, insects (like mites) or sagging.
It is as flat today as the day I got it. The adjustable feature is
wonderful, and I can tilt the back or knees to any position I find
comfortable. Mine is a queen size and I paid $2500. Considering what I
paid for other mattresses in the past and how saggy they got in a short
time, this was actually a very frugal choice.
--
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
Rest in a sky-like mind.
Sit like a mountain floating on the earth.
Breathe like the wind circling the world
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TOPIC: Where do you get your best buys in cat food?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/0890e14d22167708?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 5:09 pm
From: The Real Bev
h wrote:
> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Kirkland dry cat food from Costco was not only one of the least
>> expensive foods, it was one of the best ones. For the cats with medical
>> issues we sometimes had to buy special foods from the vet, but this was
>> rare.
>
> Obviously price is a factor for rescue organizations, but dry cat food is
> very high carb and should only be fed to cats occasionally as a treat. My
> spoiled indoor cats love it, but the three of them only get one tiny bowl
> once a week, or else they gain weight. My vet says that the only carbs cats
> need can be found in the stomach of a mouse. The mouse-carbs are probably
> why my furballs are good indoor mousers!
My daughter's cats and mini-dachshund have eaten dry food (probably Kirkland)
all their lives. She fills up one of those feeders that holds a gallon or so
whenever it's enpty. The animals are healthy, but the dog has a bit of extra
weight due to shared snacks with the grandspawn.
This goes against everything I've ever heard about dog-feeding --
"No matter how much you give them they'll eat it all RIGHT NOW". The dog
nibbles just like the cats. She'd be happy as a vegetarian and loves carrots,
fruit, broccoli, peanut butter...
I've also understood that the "affection" shown by cats is just marking the
producer of the food as theirs. Since these cats are fed by some miraculous
ever-generous invisible god, any friendliness would seem to be genuine. 3 of
the cats are extremely friendly and one is kind of shy, but eventually warms up.
--
Cheers, Bev
While in high school, we were encouraged to keep a daily journal.
I never liked it, especially when early on I realized that anybody
could find it and read it. Fortunately, the jury never saw it.
--Horvath@Horvath.net
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TOPIC: Batteries: Pays to shop around
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 5:34 pm
From: George
me@privacy.net wrote:
> I don't use a lot of alkaline batteries
> but today I need one 9 volt and three AA
> batteries for stuff at home
>
> I don't want a years worth of batteries
> and local Walmart seems to only sell
> mega packs of them anymore. However they
> did have a single 9 volt for $3.50 and
> pack of four AA's for another $3.50
>
> Being the tightwad I am I decided to
> check Big Lots. Sure enough.... one 9
> volt for $1.50 and three AA pack for
> $1.70
>
> WTF!? That much mark up on batteries?
> Sheesh!!
But cheap often doesn't mean value. Those ChiCom "fuji-novel" brand
batteries they have are real junk compared to others.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 7:20 pm
From: me@privacy.net
Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>> Just checked my local Aldis and all they
>> had wass AA and AAA....... their brand
>> name
>>
>> is that what yours has? Their brand
>> name?
>
>Yeah. "Phaser" or something like that. Maybe they're discontinued,
>and that's why the price was good.
yep that was it "Phaser"
I guess they are ok?
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 7:21 pm
From: me@privacy.net
clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>Big lot batteries may not be all that fresh.
Well the ones my local Big Lot had were Kodak brand and
had use by dates of 2013 or so
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 7:22 pm
From: me@privacy.net
George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>Those ChiCom "fuji-novel" brand
>batteries they have are real junk compared to others.
How so?
What has been your experience with them?
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 8:57 pm
From: Dave Garland
me@privacy.net wrote:
> yep that was it "Phaser"
>
> I guess they are ok?
Yeah, they're generic Chinese batteries (like most of the less
expensive batteries). I haven't had any problems.
Dave
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 9:06 pm
From: Dave Garland
George wrote:
> But cheap often doesn't mean value. Those ChiCom "fuji-novel" brand
> batteries they have are real junk compared to others.
Fuji isn't Chinese. And I'm still using Fuji C-cells that expired in
2005 (what can I say, they were a good deal and I overbought).
I actually haven't found Chinese batteries to be much different from
US batteries. Maybe a bit more likely to leak. But half the price.
Duracells might be worth it for survival gear, but not around the house.
Dave
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TOPIC: OT - Survivalism Retail Style
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 5:33 pm
From: Curly Surmudgeon
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:13:16 +0000, EskWIRED wrote:
> In misc.survivalism Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudgeon@live.com> wrote:
>
>> >> > You are correct that the raw median average house prices are not
>> >> > reflected in CPI. I misundersood the reference to house prices,
>> >> > and took it to mean housing prices.
>> >
>> >> Neither are "housing prices" part of the CPI:
>> >
>> > You need to look more closely.
>
>> Despite all your insults and denials you've not provided a single cite
>> as promised. You _have_ contradicted, and snipped, the evidence
>> proving you wrong.
>
> Is this why you need to have settled issues remain in the posts? Are
> you making some kind of semantic arguement?
I disproved your insult and assertion yet you still engage in denial. As
long as you continue to open your lawyer-mouth evading that you were
wrong on all counts I'm going to continue shoving this down your throat.
> You yourself posted the eight categoreis, and I snipped all but the
> housing costs category. The Housing Index is Series No. CUUR0000SAH.
Yup, and your assertion that "house prices" were a component of the
official inflation figures was wrong. Based upon your arrogance you then
proceeded to hurl insults, snipping the cites, and continuing in denial.
So, yes, I'm going to continue showing you to be a weasle and lawyer so I
repeat, "Fuck you."
>> You remind me of the Monty Python "Arguments" skit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3HaRFBSq9k
Shut your festering globule, you tit!
--
Regards, Curly
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Bush. Like a Rock. Only Dumber.
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 6:57 pm
From: EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com
In misc.survivalism Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudgeon@live.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:13:16 +0000, EskWIRED wrote:
> > In misc.survivalism Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudgeon@live.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >> > You are correct that the raw median average house prices are not
> >> >> > reflected in CPI. I misundersood the reference to house prices,
> >> >> > and took it to mean housing prices.
> >> >
> >> >> Neither are "housing prices" part of the CPI:
> >> >
> >> > You need to look more closely.
> >
> >> Despite all your insults and denials you've not provided a single cite
> >> as promised. You _have_ contradicted, and snipped, the evidence
> >> proving you wrong.
> >
> > Is this why you need to have settled issues remain in the posts? Are
> > you making some kind of semantic arguement?
> I disproved your insult and assertion yet you still engage in denial. As
> long as you continue to open your lawyer-mouth evading that you were
> wrong on all counts I'm going to continue shoving this down your throat.
WTF? Did you look below? Do you need this spoon fed to you? You
yourself posted that CPI includes "Housing (rent of primary residence,
owner's equivalent rent, fuel oil, bedroom furniture)"
You knew that there was such a category. Why are you denying that housing
costs are part of CPI? Is tis some kind of quibble about their
statistical methods?
Again - are you making a semantic arguement? Is there some slight wording
difference between what you have in mind and the Housing component of CPI?
If not, WTF are you going on about?
> > You yourself posted the eight categoreis, and I snipped all but the
> > housing costs category. The Housing Index is Series No. CUUR0000SAH.
> Shut your festering globule, you tit!
Gobutit. It's British. You're getting to be very entertaining.
--
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russell
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 9:27 pm
From: Strabo
EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com wrote:
> In misc.survivalism Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote:
>
>> Over the next five years or so, every asset, everything of value on
>> the planet, will be assessed and revalued. In monetary terms some of
>> these will go up while most will go down.
>
> Massive deflation, eh? That would not surprise me. People will become
> very tight with cash, and will have to be enticed by low prices to give it
> up.
>
Or they will have to buy to survive regardless of the cost.
Since some things are overpriced and others are underpriced there
can't be a simple recession or depression but rather an ongoing
up and down of costs in all markets. Each effects the other
directly and sometimes indirectly but often at *different times*.
Nothing is in synch.
But there is long term trend: Due to the hyped, manipulated bubble
markets and the general inflationary spending trend these past
twenty years, prices on food and commodities will trend upwards while
prices of real property will go down.
It will take about as long for things to sort out as it took to
create the chaos so beware indicators signaling that an end is near.
>
> You have a very different viewpoint from the folks who are predicting
> hyper and stagflation.
>
There is no predictive model. There can't be. Aside from the ordinary
financial elements of domestic and international monetary trade, as
complex as it is, there is the extraordinary. The estimated 80 trillion
in derivatives is a notable example. Impossible to analyze and sort out
and impossible to pay off, this legalized fraud is itself enough to
bring down the system.
But wait, there's more.
The extent of other fraud and 'irregularities' is massive. Many banks
and foundations and other financial institutions have been involved in
various illegal and secretive operations for years. These are platforms
for money laundering, payoffs, bribes, drug running, black bag ops,
theft, etc., all the operations that make politics and commercial
racketeering possible. These operations continue in spite of
conditions.
The institutions are dirty, filthy. Their second and third sets of books
remain hidden. The banks will probably be nationalized in an effort to
make some of the illegality 'go away'.
All of this effects the price of a loaf of bread, a gallon of gas.
At the end of the day there is only the surety that supply and demand
will eventually determine value. But until ALL inflated areas have
deflated and ALL deflated areas have inflated, there can't be price
stability and it is stability that gives the buyer confidence.
In the meantime we can determine local values through food coops and
bartering.
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TOPIC: lawyer
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 6:16 pm
From: thackere@gmail.com
I need an attorney to fight the county
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 7:07 pm
From: "John A. Weeks III"
In article
<75067b67-514e-4994-b9a6-144ac381c753@f3g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
thackere@gmail.com wrote:
> I need an attorney to fight the county
You can check your local yellow pages or call the local bar
association to see if they have a referral service in your
area.
-john-
--
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John A. Weeks III 612-720-2854 john@johnweeks.com
Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 7:10 pm
From: Stray Dog
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, thackere@gmail.com wrote:
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:16:37 -0800 (PST)
> From: thackere@gmail.com
> Newsgroups: misc.consumers.frugal-living
> Subject: lawyer
>
> I need an attorney to fight the county
>
First, you need to find out if the laws are set up in any way to keep you
from fighting the county.
Second, post your problem to NGs: misc.law, and misc.law.moderated and see
what you get.
Third, you'd better read some books out of your local public library
and/or find a legal aid for the poor, first, and see if they can help you.
Four, remember that lawyers are mainly interested in makine money, and
secondarily interested in providing some service to you which will not be
guaranteed, but they will guarantee that you pay their bill. To some
degree, lawyers are not mainly, but completely, interested in nothing but
making money.
Five, check out www.nolopress.com, a publisher of legal guides for the
layperson where the authors are lawyers dedicated to actually helping
laypeople without gouging them. They have been sued by the ABA for
contributing to the avoidance of high lawyer fees.
Six, understand that lawyer billing practices often involve padding the
bill.
Seven, find out if there are any appeal processes or alternative dispute
resolution routes to whatever your problem is.
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TOPIC: Work at Home United Information
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/49f3cce05ad1cdcb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 6:53 pm
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TOPIC: The last time spam. I am Isaac Newton. I will appear in Jerusalem.
According to "the Hebrew Bible", my date of birth can be calculated. I am a
hero. I will tell you what is "Armageddon". I think that Chinese people like
dogs. I will take the yellow people and the black people into concentration
camps. When you see me, I will make you feel Speechless. I will take Barack
Obama and Condoleezza Rice into concentration camps, I think that the black
people and Latino like dogs.
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Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 7:06 pm
From: p1z0sy0bjg@gmail.com
"Cities of Babylon" refers to China. From January 2007 to October 2008
on Radio Free Asia, I am forced China to become a country ruled by
law, I half-way to terminate a third world war, the Chinese government
Immediately wanted to kill me. The first time I listen to Radio Free
Asia in 1999. If you doubt my identity, please look at "secondary
scripture". The Chinese government wanted to kill me, I am sorry for
my safety, I do not have so much time to play in English, Chinese
writing the article far faster than the English, written Chinese
characters dragged into a google translation to English made up of.
The first time I listen to Radio Free Asia in 1999. When I listen to
Radio Free Asia again, I do not have so much time to play in English.
I want to kill these dogs.
http://groups.google.com/group/the-divine-word/files
2.27
The divine word will be struck from the sky，
One who cannot proceed any further.
The secret closed up with the revelation，
Such that they will march over and ahead.
4.56
After the victory of the raving tongue,
The spirit tempered in tranquillity and repose:
Throughout the conflict the bloody victor makes orations,
Roasting the tongue and the flesh and the bones.
http://www.rfa.org/mandarin/zhuanlan/tingzhongrexian
Moderator: Hello hotline listeners, I am linked Wei
I am: I am Mr. Guangzhou
Moderator: Mr. Guangzhou, please
I: Israel during the nation with the Western European nation
This should be my last time in the voice of Radio Free Asia, the
following information than the "Dead Sea Scrolls" found that the more
important, I have no doubt that the existence of a harbinger, allow me
to get well prepared for the rapidly after the finish. My birth to
death as early as 500 years ago was full of prophecy, I do not think I
have the ability to say here's a lie. Prophet predicted that the major
Israeli history has occurred, they have all been in me all come true,
I really Really Is that all Jews have been waiting for the Messiah,
Jesus the son of evil aliens to take my name came to the use of high
technology to deceive all the people, so that the Jewish nation cast a
unredressed injustice, which as early as before Christ Written on
"secondary scripture" in the. I have never been a Christian, I do not
believe in Jesus has always been, I am not a Muslim, I never Jiubu Xin
Mohammed. I was discriminated against Jews because they A Offended
God, God abandoned the law in the near future to become the king of
the Jews and I certainly will be in accordance with God's will you
come back to correct. I like the psychological and moral England with
a person exactly the same, but it is in the soul On the cause of this
is entirely in religious beliefs other than. Jesus, Muhammad two big
liar distorts the image of God and humanity and the contract, God is
never to use intermediaries, God is there is no body of Since the
ultra - However, with the power of a miracle. Likely in the near
future I am going to be a prophet, a great scholar and the king. I
really was, "the Hebrew Bible" and "Nostradamus Prophecy And
Prediction" and "Revelation of St John" and "secondary scripture" The
prediction , Also a prophet to predict that the future since ancient
times, no one's reputation can be compared with me. Israel's many
prophets have long predicted that the metaphorical to my life, the
people of Israel, and so I had more than 3000 years, from the I In the
end who up to now, four in this book to be able to predict, for my
safety, I can only tell you all come true in me, and I was
"Nostradamus Prophecy And Prediction" predicted that into the grave to
another person , As a result of It must be said that my life is
totally your year. Prophets of Israel is usually around things
metaphorical familiar with the way God communicated to us in the "the
Hebrew Bible" by the book to see what All Is metaphorical. "Dead Sea
Scrolls" predicted that the Messiah is a very strong power of the
Messiah, the facts have proven that Jesus is only so-called alien made
out of a God, is the so-called non-alien According to Jia Sisuo
According to the literal interpretation created a big liar, by the so-
called Virgin born and the bar is a serious departure from the hands
and feet, "the Dead Sea Scrolls", the so-called Christ's true, "the
Dead Sea Scrolls" and predicted that actually metaphor to point to me
I will explain to you to listen to; in the "Dead Sea Scrolls"
predicted that will lead to all of the Jewish king was referring to
me, "The Message of Fatima" is the so-called alien masterpiece,
"Revelation of St John" Author and we will never know his true
identity, but he must not believe Jesus was a Jewish prophet, he is
not written in Jesus before. In addition to the "Revelation of St
John", "New" is not credible It Repeat of the "Dead Sea Scrolls" a lot
of content, should be "Revelation of St John" and "Nostradamus
Prophecy And Prediction" and "Juan Paul Valdez" into the "Dead Sea
Scrolls" will be composed of books that they can Known as the saint
After. Maya from the books, I think the so-called ancient alien is
subject to the punishment of God, fled to the vicinity of the Earth,
large-scale can not breed, can not re-adapt to the environments of the
Earth's ancient humans, they must be separated for some To be back at
the time of the earth to supply requirements, the Earth is the only
supplies they needed, the extinction of species on Earth, they can not
survive; it is not so-called human-made is. Darwin once said , Found
that as long as there is a kind of biological evolution in the body
can not get the small parts, then his theory of evolution completely
bankrupt, modern science has proven that the theory of evolution is
wrong. Indeed, human beings by God Created by God has no physical
strength and the supernatural miracle, because God promised in the
universe formed a protein component, to land on Earth, to have had a
wonderful variety of biological machine, and then a miracle Have had a
variety of species like the DNA, culminating in a variety of species;
As this is miraculous, I can assure you that life on Earth in the
universe is indeed unique. Reference from the Falun Gong cult "Toru
save the world poem". "Nostradamus Prophecy And Prediction" in a
poem:"For five hundred years more one will keep count of him, Who was
the ornament of his time. Then suddenly great light will he give, He
who for this century will take them back very satisfied. "As in I do
not know completely in any predictions that I said to you in the end
who, while a few months later I found that as early as in a long time
ago and I have long predicted would be his own regeneration, and my
life as early as On the whole in mind I have set out in the definition
of the "Bible". Appearance from the point of view, I would definitely
not a personal copy, I met the teachings of Judaism, I was absolutely
out at the so-called alien unexpected. I advocate "Fate By day, into
the subject, "predicted the existence of what I did not constitute any
impact. I just did not say what, in a long time ago I spent more than
50 years, to break the "the Hebrew Bible" and all the prophets
Predicted, I lost To the memory of the past, now I really do not know
what I wrote, I finally know that I was his, which took place from me
as a miracle, a miracle and this has long been hidden in the writing
My Under the definition of the "Bible", I will explain to you listen
to, any person who is not better qualified than I to see the former in
the end I wrote what, I think, in fact did not dare open a large
number of these books, The Vatican Gang Holy See's religious leaders
have long known but Jesus was a liar and who I am. There is no doubt
that faith in God is my whole life, in accordance with the "the Hebrew
Bible" as provided for in the book of God, the Jews must paste I
legislation for the king of the Jews, I have to be in accordance with
God to the people of Israel to come back to correct; I am really
looking forward to is that the Jews have been the Messiah, I must
abide by God's strong Israel, all Mu Gosling is not a place to stay
out of Palestine, to lead you to the upcoming terrorist deal with a
major disaster.
Moderator: President of Guangzhou, the time has come
I: Good-bye
Moderator: Good-bye
I: Good-bye
2.46
After great trouble for humanity, a greater one is prepared,
The Great Mover renews the ages.
Rain, blood, milk, famine, steel and plague,
Is the heavens fire seen, a long spark running.
10.42
The humane realm of Angelican offspring,
It will cause its realm to hold to peace and union.
War half-captive in its enclosure,
For long will it cause them to maintain peace.
3.92
The world near the last period，
Saturn will come back again late.
Empire transferred towards the Dusky nation，
The eye plucked out by the Goshawk at Narbonne.
5.32
Where all is good, the Sun all beneficial and the Moon
Is abundant, its ruin approaches:
From the sky it advances to change your fortune.
In the same state as the seventh rock.
1.16
A scythe joined with a pond in Sagittarius，
at its highest ascendant.
Plague, famine, death from military hands，
the century approaches its renewal.
10.74
The great seventh number's revolution,
It will appear a time of the year for hecatomb.
Not far from the great millennial age,
When those can enter will leave the tomb.
5.84
He will be born of the gulf and unmeasured city,
Born of obscure and dark family.
He who the revered power of the great King,
Will want to destroy through Rouen and Evreux.
10.72
The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror.
To bring back to life the great King of Angolmois,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.
4.31
The Moon in the full of night over the high mountain,
The new sage with a lone brain sees it.
By his disciples invited to be immortal,
Eyes to the south. Hands in bosoms, bodies in the fire.
10.70
Long awaited he will never return,
In Europe, he will appear in Asia.
One of the league issued from the great Hermes,
And he will grow over all the Kings of the East.
3.94
For five hundred years more one will keep count of him,
Who was the ornament of his time.
Then suddenly great light will he give,
He who for this century will take them back very satisfied.
8.27
The auxiliary way, one arch upon the other，
Many deserted except for the brave one and his genet.
The writing of the Phoenix Emperor，
seen by him which is (shown) to no other.
2.29
The Easterner will leave his seat，
To pass the Apennine mountains to see Gaul.
He will transpire the sky, the waters and the snow，
And everyone will be struck with his rod.
5.79
The sacred pomp will come to lower its aisles，
Through the coming of the great legislator.
He will raise the humble, he will vex the rebels，
There is no emulator on the earth.
7.17
The prince who has rare pity and clemency，
After peace his great water barrels.
Will come to change by great jurisdiction of dead，
By great recreating, reign exquisitely.
10.73
The present time together with the past,
Will be judged by the great Jovialist.
The world too late will be tired of him,
And through the clergy oath-taker disloyal.
2.13
The body without soul no longer to be sacrificed，
Day of death put for birthday.
The divine spirit will make the soul happy，
Seeing the word in its eternity.
10.71
The earth and air will freeze a very great sea，
When they will come to venerate Thursday.
That which will be never stuffed and filled so much，
From the four parts they will come to honor it.
7.14
He will come to topography to expose the falseness，
The （water）urns of historic significant will be opened
Sect and holy philosophy to thrive,
black for white and the new for the old.
2.41
The great star will burn for seven days,
The cloud will cause two suns to appear:
The big mastiff will howl all night
When the great pontiff will change country.
3.4
When they will be close the lunar ones will fail,
From one another not greatly distant,
Cold, dryness, danger towards the frontiers,
Even where the oracle has had its beginning.
8.11
A multitude of people will appear at Vicenza
without force, fire to burn the Basilica.
Near Luna age, the great one of Valenza defeated:
at a time when Venice takes up the quarrel through custom.
...
1.50
From the three water signs will be born a man，
who will celebrate Thursday as his holiday.
His renown, praise, rule and power will grow，
on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East.
4.99
The valiant elder son of the King's daughter，
He will hurl back the Celts very far.
Such that he will cast thunderbolts, so many in such an array，
Few and distant, then deep into the Hesperias.
3.60
Throughout all Asia great proscription,
Even in Mysia, Lycia and Pamphilia.
Blood will be shed because of the absolution
Of a young evil one filled with felony.
...
Isaiah 53:3
He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted
with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised,
and we esteemed him not.
Isaiah 53:4
Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did
esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
Isaiah 53:5
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our
iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his
stripes we are healed.
Isaiah 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his
own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Isaiah 53:7
He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth:
he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her
shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
Isaiah 53:8
He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his
generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the
transgression of my people was he stricken.
Isaiah 53:9
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death;
because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Isaiah 53:10
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when
thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed,
he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper
in his hand.
Isaiah 53:11
He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by
his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall
bear their iniquities.
Isaiah 53:12
Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall
divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul
unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare
the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
...
My birth to death as early as 500 years ago was full of prophecy, now
you understand why "on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East".
This proves that An Anglo-person who grew up in China is a very
painful. When I was a baby, "he wants to eat me". I think that Chinese
people like dogs. "Mr. Hitler", it should be a means to deal with
these evil race. Sychological and moral, I am an "Angolmois"(Anglo). I
think I will become a second Hitler. I was writing a book, it is
called "Mein Kampf". It describes the object is the yellow people, the
black people, Arabs, Celtic, Slavs...
I am sorry for my safety, I do not have so much time to play in
English, Chinese writing the article far faster than the English,
written Chinese characters dragged into a google
translation to English made up of. When I listen to Radio Free Asia
again, I do not have so much time to play in English. When I was still
a baby, I look down upon Chinese. I think that Chinese people like
dogs! One day, I will pass on these dogs locked up in concentration
camps!
9.53
The young Nero in the three chimneys
Will cause live pages to be thrown to burn:
Happy those who will be far away from such practices,
Three will watch out nervily for his blood will be death.
If you want to know what is "Armageddon", it is necessary to look at
the following. I hope it was translated into English, I am learning
Hebrew.
我与生俱来在心理跟道德上跟一个英格兰人完全一样，天生就大体上能听得明白英语，但
是只会听不会写，天生就带着非常强烈的种族歧视，我的所有特征都符合
犹太人先知的预言中暗藏的密码，甚至精确到现在的我的出生日期，因此犹太人的先知们
的预言就是证明我就是弥赛亚，就是艾萨克・牛顿的最有利证明.由于我
的存在，你不得不相信有所谓"轮回转世"的存在，除了弥赛亚外，其他一切人的"轮回转
世"都是假的.上帝把我以前的记忆都清除，而使我彻底地真正重生，
是为了能够如《以斯拉书下》所说的一样，能够通过从2007年1月到2008年10月这段时间
通过自由亚洲电台的听众热线的录音像"狮子咆哮"一样制伏
中国这个将发动人道世界末日的唯一目标，从而使欧美能够利用我所揭露的巨大的教育黑
幕逼迫中国全面整顿工商业和反腐败，从而使中国成为一个法治国家，为
我的父亲上帝耶和华所创造出来的这个世界解决巨大的人道世界末日，为中国建立新的秩
序.如果我没有从"Westerner"经过"The great
seventh number's revolution"复活再生成"Easterner"，那么将无任何人能阻止由台海战
争所引发的巨大的人道世界
末日，为了我的安全，当然在这里我是绝对不会告诉你"The great seventh number's revolution"
究竟是多少；除非
我安全了，我才会帮你们解开预言.如《以斯拉书下》和"After the victory of the raving tongue, The
spirit tempered in tranquillity and repose: Throughout the conflict
the bloody victor makes orations, Roasting the tongue and the flesh
and the bones."所预言的一样，我轻而易举地通过律法的形式将发动战争的这个唯一目标消
灭，并使它建立新的秩序，如《死海古卷》一样，作
为弥赛亚的我必定是一个具有极强权力欲的人和一个好战的人，老实说，我不单想成为犹
太人之王，以色列太小了，通过宗教和局部战争我必定使所有日耳曼人国
家和拉丁人国家的所有王亲贵族国王全部变成平民，将所有这些国家最高的三权集中于我
一人手中，然后我必将成为这些国家统一的君王，唯一的君王，然后颁布
我的父亲上帝耶和华的律法，这一切必将成为事实，因为这一切已经被犹太人先知预言了."The divine word will be
struck from the sky，One who cannot proceed any further. The secret
closed up with the revelation，Such that they will march over and
ahead. "这句描写的是从2007年5月至2008年10月，欧美开始利用我所揭露的巨大黑幕逼迫
中国政府自7月底要求1个月内全国有腐败的官员
自动投案自首，广州5月底起的以所谓"创建全国卫生城市"为名的全面整顿工商业和反腐
败，于是中国政府进行史无前例的网络监控，史无前例的对自由亚洲电
台所有广播方式的干扰，史无前例的所谓"中国黑客入侵美国政府网站"."众目都要看到他
，连刺他的人也要看到他."在2008年1月22日全世界多可以
收听到的录音中我透露了自己到底是谁的信息，使主持人认识到我就是弥赛亚，接着如《
以斯拉书下》和《约翰启示录》所预言的一样全世界经历史无前例的连续
大灾难，最后至今为止，如"After great trouble for humanity, a greater one is
prepared，The Great Mover renews the ages.Rain, blood, milk, famine,
steel and plague，Is the heavens fire seen, a long spark running. " 预言的一
样，我使中国彻底更新，而且这种更新是不可逆，因此你们也必须知道事实了".The Moon in the full of night over
the high mountain, The new sage with a lone brain sees it. By his
disciples invited to be immortal, Eyes to the south. Hands in bosoms,
bodies in the fire."这句话指的是我在2007年1月到2008年10月期间双手拿着写好的文章，
话筒夹在头部，眼睛向南望着读，
为了证明我的存在，其实我的父亲上帝耶和华向你们显示了大量的异象，只不过你们没能
领会，到我安全了，我就会告诉你们，你们到时会说，"原来是这
样..."；到我安全了，我将会将向你们解开犹太人先知们所有有关我的预言，你们到时候会
说，"原来是这样...".一个人失去了记忆，这个人仍然是原
来的他，无论你是从心理还是道德上；犹太教的第十三条教义是"相信死人复活"，这一条
是为我也就是弥赛亚所准备的.2007年11月开始，台湾海峡开始
集结了大量的大陆军队和美国军队，局势空前紧张，台海即将开战，而"哈米吉多顿"指的
就是台湾海峡，"邪龙，魔鬼，撒旦，巴比伦大城，兽"都是指中国和
中国共产党，你们都被耶稣这个古代人类之子骗了.公历的1643年1月4日是星期四，现在的
我又复活再生于星期四，根据"The body
without soul no longer to be sacrificed，Day of death put for birthday.
The divine spirit will make the soul happy，Seeing the word in its
eternity."和"The earth and air will freeze a very great sea，When they
will come to venerate Thursday. That which will be never stuffed and
filled so much，From the four parts they will come to honor it."这两句诗，我必将
死于星期四，我必定将来不是死于"圣诞节"，就是死于"复活节"，还有太多让你们觉得吃
惊的我在这里处于安全原因而不会说的.
我在这里抽出某几天"听众热线"的电台录音，通过这几天的电台录音，足以证明我的身份
，前提条件是你必须要听得明白普通话.请点以下的链接：
http://groups.google.com/group/the-divine-word/files
Isaac Newton
From 25 December 2008 to 6 January 2009
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TOPIC: Sales Taxes on Web Purchases
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 9:00 pm
From: Shawn Hirn
In article <h2qhm4p8m27egbepgmmrui0vfo0ah74ioe@4ax.com>,
Vic Smith <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote:
> Just did a yearly T-Mobile refill.
> Noticed my $10.00 refill cost $11.01, which reflects the local sales
> tax rate. Cook County, IL.
> The refills weren't taxed a couple years ago.
> Seems some web purchases add the tax, others don't.
> Anybody know what's going on with this?
> Wonder how it will affect web sales.
Its very simple. If a merchant has a physical presence in your
community, it is required by local law to charge sales tax, even for web
purchases.
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