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* A Sign of the Times - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Maximize the Racial Divide - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* NY Times: "Parents are suddenly saying 'no' and their kids are saying, 'What
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* Check eBay Seller's Negative Feedback Website Link - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Financial crisis came in to farm industry. Viagra sell 300 percents - 1
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TOPIC: A Sign of the Times
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 4 2008 3:07 pm
From: "ares"
Ever notice that pomegranate tastes similar to cranberry?
Wonder if pure cranberry is just too sour.
ares
>>>> I almost bought cranberry juice blend the other day. It was "Ocean
>>>> Spray" brand in the usual packaging except I noticed it said
>>>> "Cranjuice" instead of "Cranberry" as I was putting it in the cart. It
>>>> was only 15% juice and a blend of cheaper juice and cranberry juice.
>>>
>>> Please keep in mind that "100% juice" "cranberry juice (blend or
>>> cocktail or whatever)" will have cranberry juice not being a majority of
>>> the product.
>>
>> Not from my experience, typically cranberry juice is sold as 27% juice
>> with cranberries being the only fruit used. The new stuff I almost bought
>> was only 15% juice and it had cranberries and other juice.
>>
>> 100% cranberry juice isn't as commonly sold likely because it is so tart
>> as you said and you usually don't drink it straight.
>
> I've nearly been mislead myself. I put back my 27% cranberry juice when I
> spotted the "Cranberry 100% Juice" (or something like that). Careful
> examination, lead to the discovery that it was not 100% cranberry, but
> something like 17% cranberry and assorted other juices.
>
> A new trick, all the time.
>
> Lets face it, nobody drinks cranberry for the flavor!
>
> Jeff
>
>>
>> I usually buy the 100% cranberry only juice if I see it but they only had
>> the other stuff including the misleading alternate cheaper product (but
>> not lower price) packaged to look the same.
>>
>>
>>> Also keep in mind that "100% juice" mixed-juice products often have
>>> much of the juice content being higher-sugar-lower-nutrition items that
>>> I would
>>> call "junk juice", as in I would call most of that "minor improvement
>>> over Kool-Aid", with the fruit that such "junk juice major ingredient is
>>> of" (my wording) being either apple or white grape. My experience
>>> suggests to me that "100% juice products" with "cranberry juice" are
>>> mostly "junk juice".
>>> It appears to me that "100% cranberry juice" is a very sour-tart
>>> product
>>> comparable to either lime or lemon juice in strong-tartly-sourness and
>>> also in cost.
>>>
>>> And "cranberry juice product" (my wording/phrasing) with lack of "100%
>>> juice", especially if such lack of "100% juice" is accompanied by
>>> presence of "juice cocktail", then the product can easily be something
>>> that I would describe "in my own words as" "25% juice 75% Kool-Aid".
>>> Along with some significant chance that much of the actual juice content
>>> is from something other than cranberries.
>>>
>>> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
>>
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TOPIC: Maximize the Racial Divide
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 4 2008 3:31 pm
From: "RichA"
What culture was that? Of the wigwam and the flint tomahawk? Land belongs
to those who best know how to exploit it, those who can create a real
civilization. Nowadays, stone-age groups are treated like animals, pieces
of land are set aside and they get to live in them. It's a cinch they
couldn't assimilate if their drunken lives depended on it.
"Red Cloud" <mmdir2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:711e4b87-6b33-4b67-a4ff-53382f0e84a3@d42g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 4, 6:55 am, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> On Nov 4, 7:42 am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:00:02 GMT, jazzerci...@hotmail.com (-) wrote:
>
> > >http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=5912
>
> > > Maximize the Racial Divide
> > >Race; Posted on: 2008-11-01
> > > [ Printer friendly / Instant flyer ]
>
> > > Win or lose we must hope for the maximum racial voting gap, and a
> > > resulting
> > >racial polarization as clear as the different racial reactions to the
> > >verdict
> > >in the O.J. Simpson murder trial.
>
> > >Our project, our purpose, our goal and our cause is to save our race.
> > >But we
> > >in the white racial activist community, by ourselves, lack the power to
> > >save
> > >our race — to save it from its dispossession, from the loss of its
> > >homelands,
> > >from the loss of its independence, from its subjugation to alien rule
> > >and
> > >domination, from its reduction to minority status, from its destruction
> > >and
> > >ultimate extinction.
>
> > >Since it is beyond our power, and beyond our control, to save our race,
> > >we
> > >look to something else beyond us, far greater than us, to help us.
>
> > >The only human agency we can look for, and hope for, to save us, is the
> > >existence of something inherent and latent, but presently mostly
> > >suppressed or
> > >inactive, in our race. The existence of such a power is the necessary
> > >precondition for any possibility of saving our race. Only such a power
> > >could
> > >give us something we could direct, that we could work with, sufficient
> > >to save
> > >our race.
>
> > >Thus everything we hope to achieve is based on the assumption that this
> > >power
> > >does exist. This latent power is an embedded sense of racial group
> > >identity
> > >and loyalty.
>
> > >This sense of racial group loyalty is not distributed equally
> > >throughout all
> > >our race. It is essentially absent in many while in others it is so
> > >strong as
> > >to already be manifest and active, as in the white activist community.
> > >We must
> > >hope that it would be potentially strong enough in the majority of our
> > >race to
> > >be able to save us.
>
> > >Ultimately all our hopes for the salvation of our race depend on this —
> > >to
> > >find that, when our backs are to the wall things will change. We have
> > >to
> > >believe that whites are like the lion in the old Disney cartoon Lambert
> > >the
> > >Sheepish Lion. The lion has always acted like a sheep, and always
> > >thought it
> > >was a sheep. But when the moment demands it, he is a lion after all.
>
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRtKAQJUc3g
>
> > >In effect, our hopes are based on the assumption that enough of our
> > >race have
> > >the lion of racial loyalty somewhere inside them, and our mission is to
> > >bring
> > >it to life and direct it.
>
> > >We look with both hope and despair for signs of this latent racial
> > >force that
> > >could save us. This power is generally so suppressed and hidden that
> > >evidence
> > >for it is usually indirect and circumstantial, often no more than
> > >fleeting
> > >hints. Yet it is the substance behind what Kevin MacDonald has termed
> > >"implicit whiteness" and what our opponents decry as unconscious
> > >racism.
>
> > >News Source: occidental observer
>
> > >2007-2008 European Americans United.
>
> > We have a fine opportunity to increase racial awareness.
>
> I think we whites have plenty of awareness of the dangers of black
> skin. Can't we move on to the threat posed by freckles?
>
> -
This nation is not found by white. No white people possibly
discover the land
already existed for some other people, culture, langauge they didn't
tie to.
People were already here when European invaded to this land. I would
never
assume this land belonging to white people. They are the invaders from
Europe.
This message applies Mexican too.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 4 2008 7:49 pm
From: Red Cloud
On Nov 4, 3:31 pm, "RichA" <vote...@johnmccain.com> wrote:
> What culture was that? Of the wigwam and the flint tomahawk? Land belongs
> to those who best know how to exploit it, those who can create a real
> civilization. Nowadays, stone-age groups are treated like animals, pieces
> of land are set aside and they get to live in them. It's a cinch they
> couldn't assimilate if their drunken lives depended on it.
>
PWHAHAHAHAH....YOU DUMB Stupid white AmericanAss. You don't even
know your own race and your own culture. Your white race are fucked up
in this land. Can't you see that how unhappy your race is? I did not
said that. One of your white said we White Americans culture is
most unhappy culture in the world.
I don't look at your race as successful people. I see your white race
as so unhappy,
you don't even know why I guess you are fucked just like average
fucked up Joe.
I hate your fucking white race fucker! Go back to Europe. This land
does not
belonging to you. Your ancestor is from Europe. Go back there! I
don't need
your white race in my life!
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 4 2008 8:56 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Red Cloud <mmdir2005@yahoo.com> wrote
> RichA <vote...@johnmccain.com> wrote
>> What culture was that? Of the wigwam and the flint tomahawk?
>> Land belongs to those who best know how to exploit it, those
>> who can create a real civilization. Nowadays, stone-age groups
>> are treated like animals, pieces of land are set aside and they
>> get to live in them. It's a cinch they couldn't assimilate if their
>> drunken lives depended on it.
> PWHAHAHAHAH....YOU DUMB Stupid white AmericanAss. You don't
> even know your own race and your own culture. Your white race are
> fucked up in this land. Can't you see that how unhappy your race is?
How odd that so many of you are drinking yourselves to death.
> I did not said that. One of your white said we White
> Americans culture is most unhappy culture in the world.
How odd that so many of you are drinking yourselves to death.
> I don't look at your race as successful people.
How odd that so many of you are drinking yourselves to death.
> I see your white race as so unhappy, you don't even know
> why I guess you are fucked just like average fucked up Joe.
How odd that so many of you are drinking yourselves to death.
> I hate your fucking white race fucker!
Then drink yourself to death.
> Go back to Europe.
Go back to asia.
> This land does not belonging to you.
Doesnt belong to you either.
> Your ancestor is from Europe. Go back there!
Your ancestor is from Asia. Go back there!
> I don't need your white race in my life!
We dont need you drunken bums either.
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TOPIC: NY Times: "Parents are suddenly saying 'no' and their kids are saying,
'What do you mean?'"
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 4 2008 5:07 pm
From: lenona321@yahoo.com
"The Frugal Teenager, Ready or Not"
By JAN HOFFMAN
Published: October 10, 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/fashion/sundaystyles/12teen.html?ref=business
Excerpts:
..............Mrs. Postle's teenagers asked whether the family was
poor. Mrs. Postle, who teaches economics at the Columbus chapter of
Junior Achievement and whose husband manages heating and cooling
commercial installations, felt insulted.
The family was not poverty-stricken, she responded, but staying
solvent was costly. Although many parents consider finances the
province of grown-ups, Mrs. Postle decided her children were too
insulated. She showed them the monthly bills.
The teenagers were stunned. When her son saw the mortgage bill he
thought it was an annual payment.............
...........One recent morning, students in an economics seminar at
Elisabeth Irwin High School, a private school in Manhattan, displayed
an emerging grasp of the financial meltdown. But when discussing their
personal finances, many just seemed bewildered........
...........To "earn" spending money, some students were required to do
minimal chores, others to maintain minimal civility.
Regardless of family means, most did not have after-school jobs.
"I've never had a job," said Nazir Khan, 16, a first-generation
American whose father is a cook and whose mother is an occasional
caregiver. "My parents want me to focus on schoolwork.".............
.........One girl said: "My dad will buy three new shirts but then
he'll tell me to cut down on my spending. So I don't know what to
think."
A junior recounted a fight with her father. She had shouted: "I can
afford the things I buy because I don't have to pay expenses or rent."
He had retorted: "Now you're going to: $25 a night and $15 for your
friends who stay over!" (Threat rescinded.)..............
...............Last month Hildegaard Link's two daughters, 15 and 11,
rushed home, frightened by headlines about the stock market. The older
one "totally freaked out," recalled Ms. Link, a civil engineer in
Brooklyn. "She asked: 'What does this mean for me? For my family?' "
Ms. Link reassured her but asked whether everyone could do with a
little less. "Let's brainstorm."
The girls made choices: lessons for either drum or violin, every two
weeks; fewer restaurant dinners; one new school outfit. "They were not
resentful," Ms. Link reported. "They were relieved to be part of the
process."................
Lenona.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 4 2008 8:59 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
And they'll discover who gets to pick the nursing home.
lenona321@yahoo.com wrote:
> "The Frugal Teenager, Ready or Not"
> By JAN HOFFMAN
> Published: October 10, 2008
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/fashion/sundaystyles/12teen.html?ref=business
> Excerpts:
>
> ..............Mrs. Postle's teenagers asked whether the family was
> poor. Mrs. Postle, who teaches economics at the Columbus chapter of
> Junior Achievement and whose husband manages heating and cooling
> commercial installations, felt insulted.
> The family was not poverty-stricken, she responded, but staying
> solvent was costly. Although many parents consider finances the
> province of grown-ups, Mrs. Postle decided her children were too
> insulated. She showed them the monthly bills.
> The teenagers were stunned. When her son saw the
> mortgage bill he thought it was an annual payment.............
> ...........One recent morning, students in an economics seminar at
> Elisabeth Irwin High School, a private school in Manhattan, displayed
> an emerging grasp of the financial meltdown. But when discussing their
> personal finances, many just seemed bewildered........
> ...........To "earn" spending money, some students were required to do
> minimal chores, others to maintain minimal civility.
> Regardless of family means, most did not have after-school jobs.
>
> "I've never had a job," said Nazir Khan, 16, a first-generation
> American whose father is a cook and whose mother is an occasional
> caregiver. "My parents want me to focus on schoolwork.".............
>
> .........One girl said: "My dad will buy three new shirts but then
> he'll tell me to cut down on my spending. So I don't know what to
> think."
>
> A junior recounted a fight with her father. She had shouted: "I can
> afford the things I buy because I don't have to pay expenses or rent."
> He had retorted: "Now you're going to: $25 a night and $15 for your
> friends who stay over!" (Threat rescinded.)..............
>
> ...............Last month Hildegaard Link's two daughters, 15 and 11,
> rushed home, frightened by headlines about the stock market. The older
> one "totally freaked out," recalled Ms. Link, a civil engineer in
> Brooklyn. "She asked: 'What does this mean for me? For my family?' "
>
> Ms. Link reassured her but asked whether everyone could do with a
> little less. "Let's brainstorm."
>
> The girls made choices: lessons for either drum or violin, every two
> weeks; fewer restaurant dinners; one new school outfit. "They were not
> resentful," Ms. Link reported. "They were relieved to be part of the
> process."................
>
>
> Lenona.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 4 2008 9:54 pm
From: Tony
So what does the stock market have to do with a paki whose parents are both on the
dole? Boy do i have it over all you guys. I live in CanaDUH so i know firsthand
about pakis. The odds of a paki telling the truth is zilch. No paki has ever told
the truth in their lives.
lenona321@yahoo.com wrote:
> "The Frugal Teenager, Ready or Not"
>
> By JAN HOFFMAN
> Published: October 10, 2008
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/fashion/sundaystyles/12teen.html?ref=business
>
> Excerpts:
>
> ..............Mrs. Postle's teenagers asked whether the family was
> poor. Mrs. Postle, who teaches economics at the Columbus chapter of
> Junior Achievement and whose husband manages heating and cooling
> commercial installations, felt insulted.
>
> The family was not poverty-stricken, she responded, but staying
> solvent was costly. Although many parents consider finances the
> province of grown-ups, Mrs. Postle decided her children were too
> insulated. She showed them the monthly bills.
>
> The teenagers were stunned. When her son saw the mortgage bill he
> thought it was an annual payment.............
>
> ...........One recent morning, students in an economics seminar at
> Elisabeth Irwin High School, a private school in Manhattan, displayed
> an emerging grasp of the financial meltdown. But when discussing their
> personal finances, many just seemed bewildered........
>
> ...........To "earn" spending money, some students were required to do
> minimal chores, others to maintain minimal civility.
>
> Regardless of family means, most did not have after-school jobs.
>
> "I've never had a job," said Nazir Khan, 16, a first-generation
> American whose father is a cook and whose mother is an occasional
> caregiver. "My parents want me to focus on schoolwork.".............
>
> .........One girl said: "My dad will buy three new shirts but then
> he'll tell me to cut down on my spending. So I don't know what to
> think."
>
> A junior recounted a fight with her father. She had shouted: "I can
> afford the things I buy because I don't have to pay expenses or rent."
> He had retorted: "Now you're going to: $25 a night and $15 for your
> friends who stay over!" (Threat rescinded.)..............
>
> ...............Last month Hildegaard Link's two daughters, 15 and 11,
> rushed home, frightened by headlines about the stock market. The older
> one "totally freaked out," recalled Ms. Link, a civil engineer in
> Brooklyn. "She asked: 'What does this mean for me? For my family?' "
>
> Ms. Link reassured her but asked whether everyone could do with a
> little less. "Let's brainstorm."
>
> The girls made choices: lessons for either drum or violin, every two
> weeks; fewer restaurant dinners; one new school outfit. "They were not
> resentful," Ms. Link reported. "They were relieved to be part of the
> process."................
>
> Lenona.
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TOPIC: Check eBay Seller's Negative Feedback Website Link
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 4 2008 8:00 pm
From: itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net
On Nov 4, 8:58 am, smit1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Always check seller's negative feedback first to avoid later
> disappointment:
>
> http://www.toolhaus.org/
>
>
Are you just now finding this out??
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TOPIC: Frugal protection against burglars
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 4 2008 9:02 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
BigDog1 <bigdog811@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 30, 6:39 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 30, 11:37 am, lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> A house on my (normally safe) street just got robbed in broad
>>> daylight. The sad thing is, even if I'd been there and seen them
>>> doing it, chances are I wouldn't have suspected anything, since I
>>> didn't know the owners - or whether they were moving out or selling
>>> anything!
>>
>>> Please consider telling all your neighbors to call the police if
>>> they ever see anything like that at your house, unless you TOLD
>>> them all in advance exactly WHEN the movers would be there. Of
>>> course, they're more likely to say yes and mean it if you promise
>>> to do the same for them.
>>
>>> Lenona.
>>
>> That might work in "some" neighborhoods, but in others these same
>> neighbors might be the ones doing the break in.
>
> Yup. Somebody wants to burglarize my house? Let'em come. That's why
> I pay all that money to my insurance company every year. And if I'm
> home when they come in, or I get home while they're still there, we're
> gonna be all over the news for a couple of days.
>
> I own very "things" that have such sentimental value they can't be
> replaced. Those few items fit in my safe deposit box, which is where
> they are, along with all of my family's important papers (social
> security cards, birth and death certificates, military records,
> insurance policies, household inventory, etc, et al). Family photos
> and historical documents have been scanned and are stored with an
> online storage service, as well as on discs in the aforementioned safe
> deposit box. Wouldn't want to lose the originals, but if I do at least
> I have the copies.
>
> Truth is, I've got a few things at home that I wish someone would
> steal. I'd rather have the money. Any takers?
Yeah, my policy is 'new for old forever' so I was thinking
that a damned good looting would go down very well indeed.
I was a bit tempted to put a sign on the door saying 'away for 4 weeks, back on
5-Dec, but I thought maybe the insurance company might refuse to payout if I did.
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TOPIC: Financial crisis came in to farm industry. Viagra sell 300 percents
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 4 2008 9:49 pm
From: krystinacarle@gmail.com
http://farmos.freetzi.com/ Financial crisis came in to farm industry.
Viagra sell 300 percents
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