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* Big 5 Sporting Goods Dummies - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/54ea6dd5dd8d06f9?hl=en
* Pumice removing water chalk deposits - 11 messages, 11 authors
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* Within 5 Days Of Each Other - 1 messages, 1 author
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* endodontist's root canal cracked crown - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Should America Euthanize the Old People and Homeless? - 3 messages, 2
authors
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* So Anyway, My Hard Drive Crashed - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Electric Blankets - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Big 5 Sporting Goods Dummies
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/54ea6dd5dd8d06f9?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 7 2011 9:35 pm
From: Denisehome33
humbug <humbug@universe.net> wrote in
news:iia7up$kbn$2@speranza.aioe.org:
> Idiots at the Tucson Big 5 Sporting goods store run sales
and then
> their drone clerks cannot even find the proper sizes for
footwear.
>
> Near impossible to get assistance and when you do they
don't know
> anything.
>
> Clueless low wage employees; their Managers are also rude
or non-
> responsive. One good thing about Trashon Arizona is that
there are an
> abundance of alternative stores. No use beating a dead
horse.
>
> One on Speedway is particularily bad, if you have to shop
there go to
> one on Oracle.
>
Some more consumer reviews about Big 5 Sporting goods:
"Clint B.
Livermore, CA
2 star rating
3/15/2010
Customer Service is atrocious. But, sale prices and
selection are good enough to keep me interested.
I like Sports Chalet better.
Livermore, CA
1 star rating
1/7/2009
I am so happy that I finally found out what Big 5 stands for
and where they got their name. Now that I know it makes more
sense and I hope it helps explain things to you, too. Here
is what I found out:
Big 5 stands for the 5 reasons we are a lousy sporting goods
store:
1. Our prices are ridiculous. If you pay full price for
anything at Big 5 then you are a total sucker! Everything in
our store is on sale for 30% to 70% off at one time or
another. EVERYTHING. Nothing was brought in that we did not
or will not have on one of our ads. Do not pay regular price
at this mark down house! Do not!!
2. Our employees are awful. I don't know how so many
unqualified people can work in one place. And, you, the lady
with the dark hair. The one with the "pardon me" and "excuse
me, sir" and "just a moment please, sir" all spoken with that
voice and tone of a patronizing mother / method actress. You
are the worst offender of them all! You know who you are and
anyone who has been there in the last few months knows this
lady.
3. We tell people we sell hunting and fishing licenses, but
we never have them. You see, we get three fishing licenses,
four hunting licenses, two second rod stamps, one Delta Bay
enhancement stamp, one California duck stamp and zero of the
Federal duck stamps. We sell this tiny selection of tags /
licenses in minutes. Here is the catch, we tell you to come
back tomorrow because we expect to get some more. You keep
coming back and we never have them! Brilliant!
4. Our "selection" of fishing gear is second to none. But
at Big 5 that means, if you look for a second you realize we
have none. Well, at least nothing that would you want to
use.
5. Number 5 represents the shortest amount of time, in
minutes, that you spend in our checkout line or shoe
department or gun department. 5 represents the number of
employees out of 6 who are in the store at any given time who
do not "work in this department", who do not "know how to
work the register", who do not "have the key for the case",
who are "on break" or who are not going to be able actually
assist you in any way.
I am sorry Big 5 that this sounds so harsh. I will admit
that I have purchased firearms at your store on several
occasions. When you do have the "sales" the prices are good.
But, it was these trips to your store that I discovered how
lousy you are. 45 minutes to wait for a "manager" to
complete some forms while you wait is enought time to explore
the store and see what is going on. It is not pretty.
Livermore, CA
1 star rating
5/22/2008
the worst experience ever!!! this mid 20s girl with long old
school out dated hair (I'm a hairstylist) helped me she was
the RUDEST B!Tch!! since i dont look white I'm guessing that
she was racist.. she even wanted to see id for a fishing
license even tho the day before I went and didn't need any
form of id.. but she was super rude i also brought my mom
back to sick her on the chick .. and trust me that would have
been a BAD idea!! i wish i would of got her name so i could
put her on blast.. but then again who is rockin some old
school as permed hair!! you wont miss her"
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 3:14 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 02/07/11 21:35, Denisehome33 wrote:
> Some more consumer reviews about Big 5 Sporting goods:
>
> "Clint B.
> Livermore, CA
> 2 star rating
> 3/15/2010
>
> Customer Service is atrocious. But, sale prices and
> selection are good enough to keep me interested.
> I like Sports Chalet better.
Sport Chalet USED to be a really good store. Now they're only a little
better than the chains like Chick's and/or Dick's. Lots of clothing and
shoes, but not a single Goode pole tip to be had. Still, their
employees are much more knowledgeable than the chain-people.
At the original SC store the old ski guy mounted new bindings on my skis
for free because he wanted my old ones for his antique collection,
proudly displayed on the wall. Long gone. The store is now part of its
own mini-mall and looks just like all the others.
--
Cheers, Bev
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"By the time they had diminished from 50 to 8, the other
dwarves began to suspect 'Hungry.'" -Gary Larson
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TOPIC: Pumice removing water chalk deposits
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 3:20 am
From: "john reeves"
Being in a hard water area the u-bend of the WC bowl gets a coating of chalk
deposited from the water.
Pumice Stone seems to scrape it off quite well without damaging the glaze of
the chinaware.
Is there a good way that anybody has found to attach pumice to something to
enable it to reach right into the bend?
== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 6:04 am
From: ransley
On Feb 8, 5:20 am, "john reeves" <bluestar0...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> Being in a hard water area the u-bend of the WC bowl gets a coating of chalk
> deposited from the water.
>
> Pumice Stone seems to scrape it off quite well without damaging the glaze of
> the chinaware.
>
> Is there a good way that anybody has found to attach pumice to something to
> enable it to reach right into the bend?
Pumice will damage the ceramic, use an acid made to remove lime scale
== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 7:39 am
From: "Mentalguy2k8"
"ransley" <mark.ransley84@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 8, 5:20 am, "john reeves" <bluestar0...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> Being in a hard water area the u-bend of the WC bowl gets a coating of
> chalk
> deposited from the water.
>
> Pumice Stone seems to scrape it off quite well without damaging the glaze
> of
> the chinaware.
>
> Is there a good way that anybody has found to attach pumice to something
> to
> enable it to reach right into the bend?
>Pumice will damage the ceramic, use an acid made to remove lime scale
Agreed, my old house had the same problem but I found that anything abrasive
enough to remove the scale was damaging the ceramic, too. I think it
actually looked better before I "cleaned" it, even the slightest surface
marks quadruple the chances of scale and other stuff sticking to it.
== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 7:48 am
From: Joe
On Feb 8, 5:20 am, "john reeves" <bluestar0...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> Being in a hard water area the u-bend of the WC bowl gets a coating of chalk
> deposited from the water.
>
> Pumice Stone seems to scrape it off quite well without damaging the glaze of
> the chinaware.
>
> Is there a good way that anybody has found to attach pumice to something to
> enable it to reach right into the bend?
You will be far better off using a product designed to do the job
chemically. Sulfamic acid has been a mainstay of such products in the
past since it has a good balance of chemical activity/effectiveness
and relative safety, unlike muriatic (hydrochloric) acid. Vinegar
(acetic acid) is too poopy <G> and oxalic acid, while efficient, is a
slow dissolving solid. Sulfamic acid used to be the main component of
products like Sani-Flush. Haven't checked lately, but that still may
be the case.
Joe
== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 8:05 am
From: JIMMIE
On Feb 8, 6:20 am, "john reeves" <bluestar0...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> Being in a hard water area the u-bend of the WC bowl gets a coating of chalk
> deposited from the water.
>
> Pumice Stone seems to scrape it off quite well without damaging the glaze of
> the chinaware.
>
> Is there a good way that anybody has found to attach pumice to something to
> enable it to reach right into the bend?
Thats a hard way to get it off. Almost any dilute acid will take it
off. I use CLR, dilute muratic acid, or even a liter of cola poured in
and left over night will remove it. Using the pumice stone will
scratch the surface and make the next accumulation that much more
difficult to get off.
Jimmie
== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 10:00 am
From: zek
On Feb 8, 11:05 am, JIMMIE <JIMMIEDEE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> On Feb 8, 6:20 am, "john reeves" <bluestar0...@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Being in a hard water area the u-bend of the WC bowl gets a coating of chalk
> > deposited from the water.
>
> > Pumice Stone seems to scrape it off quite well without damaging the glaze of
> > the chinaware.
>
> > Is there a good way that anybody has found to attach pumice to something to
> > enable it to reach right into the bend?
>
> Thats a hard way to get it off. Almost any dilute acid will take it
> off. I use CLR, dilute muratic acid, or even a liter of cola poured in
> and left over night will remove it. Using the pumice stone will
> scratch the surface and make the next accumulation that much more
> difficult to get off.
>
> Jimmie
Vinegar and Scotch-Brite or just vinegar.
== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 11:39 am
From: harry
On Feb 8, 11:20 am, "john reeves" <bluestar0...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> Being in a hard water area the u-bend of the WC bowl gets a coating of chalk
> deposited from the water.
>
> Pumice Stone seems to scrape it off quite well without damaging the glaze of
> the chinaware.
>
> Is there a good way that anybody has found to attach pumice to something to
> enable it to reach right into the bend?
Brick cleaner left in overnight. you need to be careful not to use too
much & it needs to be done regular.
== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 1:29 pm
From: Sjouke Burry
john reeves wrote:
> Being in a hard water area the u-bend of the WC bowl gets a coating of chalk
> deposited from the water.
>
> Pumice Stone seems to scrape it off quite well without damaging the glaze of
> the chinaware.
>
> Is there a good way that anybody has found to attach pumice to something to
> enable it to reach right into the bend?
>
>
Said things are called hands/fingers, attached to something called
an arm.
== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 1:41 pm
From: Pierre
On Feb 8, 6:20 am, "john reeves" <bluestar0...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> Being in a hard water area the u-bend of the WC bowl gets a coating of chalk
> deposited from the water.
>
> Pumice Stone seems to scrape it off quite well without damaging the glaze of
> the chinaware.
>
> Is there a good way that anybody has found to attach pumice to something to
> enable it to reach right into the bend?
Joe suggested sulfamic acid, with which I am unfamiliar.
My solution (done it at least a dozen times for my house(s) and
relatives' houses) has been hydrochloric acid (a.k.a. muriatic acid),
which will clean your trap in a few minutes, without leaving any
mineral trace. Make sure you don't breathe the fumes.
Do not use sulfuric acid, which will transform your deposit into very
hard minerals (tooth material). Do not, ever, under any circumstances,
add water to sulfuric acid.
Pierre
== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 2:32 pm
From: Oren
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:41:03 -0800 (PST), Pierre
<pierredavidbw@gmail.com> wrote:
>My solution (done it at least a dozen times for my house(s) and
>relatives' houses) has been hydrochloric acid (a.k.a. muriatic acid),
>which will clean your trap in a few minutes, without leaving any
>mineral trace. Make sure you don't breathe the fumes.
Exactly.
If on a septic tank system. neutralize the acid before flushing.
Long term solution is to install a water softener...
== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 3:04 pm
From: The Natural Philosopher
Oren wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:41:03 -0800 (PST), Pierre
> <pierredavidbw@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My solution (done it at least a dozen times for my house(s) and
>> relatives' houses) has been hydrochloric acid (a.k.a. muriatic acid),
>> which will clean your trap in a few minutes, without leaving any
>> mineral trace. Make sure you don't breathe the fumes.
>
> Exactly.
>
> If on a septic tank system. neutralize the acid before flushing.
>
> Long term solution is to install a water softener...
I always get the fat out with caustic, ad then descale with acid, later.
Let's face it, PH is pretty neutral in the tank after a couple of baths
and loo flushes. Esp if the water is hard.
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TOPIC: Within 5 Days Of Each Other
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 6:17 am
From: Mitchell Holman
Gary Sokolisch <SokolischSpeaks@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:vm2pey5s3z68.1h37ghqwwe31w$.dlg@40tude.net:
>
>
> WOW! $16 for that advice. I'm in the wrong business. Maybe I could
> become an online "expert" and tell people to take their problems to a
> professional. Any fucking body could give that kind of advice.
"A fool and his money are soon parted."
Thomas Tusser, 1524-1580
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TOPIC: endodontist's root canal cracked crown
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 6:22 am
From: "h"
"mehlREMOVETHIS@cyvest.com" <mehl@cyvest.com> wrote in message
news:5f6d544c-42be-491c-9700-f8e713e4c637@y35g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> Hello --
>
> The procedure was performed on a tooth with a crown. A week later, a
> piece of the crown came off.
>
> Is the endodontist responsible for all, or some part of the
> replacement cost of the crown?
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
If your tooth already has a crown, the crown is removed, then replaced after
each appointment (assuming you have 2-3 appts to complete the root canal).
How could something get cracked when it's not in your mouth?
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TOPIC: Should America Euthanize the Old People and Homeless?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 9:27 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
On Feb 8, 11:52 am, softsofa <softs...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 06:45:08 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the
> TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit Campaign"
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 8, 4:07 am, softsofa <softs...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:16:46 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the
> >> TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit Campaign"
>
> >> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On Feb 3, 1:30 am, Google Member 32123332
> >> ><humanitarianzion...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> I'm a poor person, and I am very concerned that I may become
> >> >> homeless. I don't blame Obama or Bush, but nature: the amount of
> >> >> resources in not keeping up with population growth. [. . .]
> >> That must be why the poorer a person is, the more likely she's fat.
> >Only in the First World. In Africa the poor are skinny.
>
> Even Africa's poor are getting fatter: "In spite of rampant poverty in
> [African] urban areas, access to cheap foods with a high content of
> fat and sugar is commonplace".
>
> http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/284902#ixzz1DNxPJqrA
I bet those are the bureaucrats working in the capital. I don't think
you can get fat eating peanuts.
>
> >> >> To those with jobs, I understand that you feel disgust and hatred
> >> >> towards the homeless: the United States has a capitalist social
> >> >> Darwinist economic system (survival of the fittest). [. . .]
> >> It's called survival of the Mexicans since illegal aliens hold
> >> millions of jobs in the US.
> >And we could lying in a hammock while they work so hard, why don't we?
>
> Millions do since they think, "Why work when others will give you
> enough to exist on?"
Yeah, even the priests are living off the bullshit and contributing
nothing. Plus they are feeding the homeless.
>
> >Number one we have to get rid of luxuries such as the car.
>
> Cars are a necessity. The luxury we can't afford are Liberals who
> support mass transit and bicycles, yet doesn't avail themselves. Libs
> over the parapet first, then talk to the rest of us.
Cars a necessity because they system makes it a necessity. You don't
need a car to go to the market. A bike does it.
>
> >[. . .]
> >> >You've convinced me for sure.
> >> You are one easy lay.
> >He convinced me that the need for euthanasia is there. Particularly
> >important for the old, very poor and outcasts.
>
> That's why Socialized medicine always includes death panels (eg. NICE
> in the UK)
Oh no, I'm willing to volunteer myself since it's too much struggle
trying to ride a bike. And if you have an accident there's a high
chance of you being crippled as well as broke.
Just make nice Euthanasia Clinics for those who fall the below the
standards and are unwilling to comply and everybody happy.
>
> >[. . .]
> >I thought that whenever the revolution gets to power somewhere, the
> >bills should have a banana. Something more real than a mystic pyramid.
> >We'll call it the BANANA DOLLAR.
>
> But then everyone would start growing bananas and we'd have the usual
> inflationary spiral,.. along with lots more banana spiders.
>
> Hairy, scuttling banana spiders crunching underfoot and falling from
> the ceiling into our snoring mouths.
Actually we may be able to undermine the Rich and Famous by printing
Banana Dollars and empowering the lower classes.
>
> >> >[. . .]
> >> >You just got to look at the bright side of life. Look at it with a
> >> >sense of humor...
>
> >> And then die.
> >I lost track of him. Maybe he committed suicide already.
>
> That guy was a black hole of fun.
I know, I know. I will always miss him.
>
> >We'll always remember him as another number.
>
> It won't be #1. Maybee #2...
>
> []softsofa[]
Actually he was "Google Member 32123332"
You are on the other side of the battle of Good vs. Evil, but you made
me laugh a whole lot.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 12:58 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
On Feb 8, 3:15 pm, softsofa <softs...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:06:41 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the
> TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit Campaign"
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >[. . .]
> >You are on the other side of the battle of Good vs. Evil, but you made
> >me laugh a whole lot.
>
> Come to the light
>
> []softsofa[]
You are challenging me to a duel, or telling me to see the light
through your eyes?
It may never happen. I argue for different space for different
species, and we need our own space as cyclists --not with cars or
pedestrians. CYCLING VS. CAR is the ultimate GOOD VS. EVIL battle,
unless you are both a cyclist and a driver.
We need to TAKE THE LANE as a cyclist and leave the whole lane to the
cyclist when we drive --not 1, 2 or 3 feet.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 8:47 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
From the Trek bikes website:
We Believe in a Better World
The world's evolving. No longer do people stand by and watch idly as
they impact themselves, others, and the world around them. At Trek, we
believe that complex problems can be solved by simple solutions. Go by
bike.
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TOPIC: So Anyway, My Hard Drive Crashed
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 2:32 pm
From: Al
On Feb 7, 7:57 am, Gary Sokolisch <SokolischSpe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 01:04:11 -0500, Bill wrote:
> > On 2/6/2011 9:33 PM, Gary Sokolisch wrote:
> >> And I let the tech talk me into a new PC. Bad move; it has Windows 7. For
> >> one thing, programs are lost. This never happened when I went from 98 to
> >> XP. Oh sweet mother of mercy, how I miss XP. Also, the tech failed to
> >> save my music from the old Win player. You can't get those songs now; it's
> >> illegal. But worst of all, it's a bitch to download Flash. Windows 7
> >> comes with two IEs: a 64-bit default and a 32-bit. The 64-bit will not
> >> accept Flash. So I have to use 32-bit to get the latest Flash.
>
> >> Sometimes I do the dumbest things.
>
> > Windows 7 is quite good, I don't know why you are complaining. Just
> > because the machine only came with IE, there is no reason why you cannot
> > install Firefox or Chorne or Safari or whatever browser you want. I
> > understand there is a beta of Flash for 64-bit IE, but it's not that big
> > a deal to just run 32-bit IE if you really want to have IE.
>
> > As for your music, I have no idea what is illegal about getting the old
> > ones. Had you downloaded them illegally and not you can't get them
> > again? Do you still have the old machine and old drive? Did you ask the
> > tech to recover them for you?
>
> Yes I asked the tech to recover them.
>
> > Also, you likely did not lose programs when you went from 98 to XP
> > because you stayed with the same machine, not because of the OS switch.
>
> > Bill
>
> Not true. I got new machines that began with 95, then 98, then XP, and now
> 7. Four machines; four OS. And the tech rovered all the old stuff when we
> updated from 98 to XP.
Hey, if your hard drive really crashed, how were they supposed to get
anything off of it? The answer is that your hard drive probably did
not crash. You probably only had a minor software problem do to your
ignorance in managing your computer. You should still have the old
hard drive and can retrieve anything still readable. It will have to
be done by someone more knowledgeable than you though.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 2:56 pm
From: Gordon
Al <albundy2@mailinator.com> wrote in news:b02864df-6445-424d-b262-
273bef149945@j11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>
> Hey, if your hard drive really crashed, how were they supposed to get
> anything off of it? The answer is that your hard drive probably did
> not crash. You probably only had a minor software problem do to your
> ignorance in managing your computer. You should still have the old
> hard drive and can retrieve anything still readable. It will have to
> be done by someone more knowledgeable than you though.
For what it's worth, there is a really good program called TeraCopy
that is great for retrieving data from failing hard drives.
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TOPIC: Electric Blankets
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 3:08 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 02/07/11 20:02, Metspitzer wrote:
> I have been looking at Electric Blankets. My sister wanted me to get
> one here in my city because her city was sold out. After going to a
> couple of stores I find out that I just missed the close out sale.
>
> I bought her two Queen size blankets. I was looking for a King size
> for me. None of the stores here have them.
>
> My big problem is there are many many choices. I don't mind paying
> big bucks for a good one, but I would like to get a nice one at close
> out price. I am guessing a deal like that is going to be rare on the
> Internet.
>
> Any suggestions for a King Size? Naturally, I want the very best
> money can buy and I don't want to pay a lot for it. :)
We got ours at yard sales. Roughly $5 each and they've been working for
years.
--
Cheers, Bev
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"By the time they had diminished from 50 to 8, the other
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