Frugal Living: Nov 20, 2010

Saturday, November 20, 2010

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* dealing w/ cops? - 3 messages, 3 authors
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 19 2010 1:13 am
From: RAMYA

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TOPIC: These are the underlying principles of the Bike Revolution
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 19 2010 6:23 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

Here are the basic but important principles underlying the revolution.
If you don't like it... get another revolution or vote for the status
quo!

> "There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the
> means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men
> by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder
> and suicide." -- Ayn Rand, from "Foreign Policy Drains U.S. of Main
> Weapons"

Ayn Rand was paranoid. Nothing more similar to communism than
corporate capitalism, as demonstrated in USA-China relations.

There are two powerful forces acting on nature: COMPETITION (she's
partially right) and COOPERATION... which comes in the form of
SOCIALISM (bureaucratic) or INDIVIDUAL ACTION (riding a bike).

I prefer the latter, but other forces must be at play too. We still
need the good public transportation provided by SOCIALISM.

This is "no good"...

"In a society dominated by the fact of commercial competition, money
is necessarily the test of prowess, and wastefulness the sole
criterion of power." -Upton Sinclair, book 'The Jungle'

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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 19 2010 6:36 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

On Nov 19, 6:44 am, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:

> In other words, you're pulling stupid stuff out of a hat to make
> explanations on why you should be allowed to pollute the environment.
>
> Jeff

I get the hint: It's convenient for them to lie!

I'd like to see a cyclist make up the same lie, though some are really
into the sport of it, not the moral high ground.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 19 2010 7:42 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

On Nov 19, 10:23 am, Conscience <obama...@fraud.gov> wrote:
> On 2010-11-18 23:25:38 -0800, "Jane_Galt" <Jane__G...@thegulch.xyz> said:
>
> >> The dumbshit leftists think that their simple denials and spinning
> >> constitute discrediting the climategate conspiracy .
>
> > Classic "big lie" theory.
>
> http://www.theblaze.com/stories/u-n-official-admits-we-redistribute-w...
>
> "But
>
> one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth
> by climate policy." --Ottmar Edenhofer, U.N. IPCC official

I know letting go of the LION'S SHARE sounds scary to you, but such
privilege is not that good as we are dying of OBESITY and BOREDOM
while they are dying of hunger and disease.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 19 2010 8:37 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

On Nov 19, 9:03 am, Art Lovejoy <artlove...@live.com> wrote:

> I wake this morning and I drink my coffee and I think about what I
> might be doing today.
>
> If I am a person of faith I might be praying to God right now and
> thanking God that I survived the night with restful sleep and did not
> wake to find myself hovering over my bed wondering how I died if from
> a stroke or massive coronary because I have been adding a few inches
> to my waist needing to find the time to better care for myself with
> all other things I need to do, but no longer worried about the few
> extra pounds because I know he cares for me at least until the next
> time I begin to lose confidence in myself and the thought crosses my
> mind that I could really use some time everyday exercising or
> preparing nutritious meals. And after praying for my acceptable
> present condition I might then turn my thoughts towards being thankful
> for his protection from the many other dangers that I have narrowly
> escaped if not for his continual vigilance over my condition such as
> the Nuclear conflict with Iraq or our country being overrun with
> terror, or of not receiving the notice last week that my home is in
> foreclosure because I didn't have the money to pay the mortgage and I
> ask for his blessing for those less fortunate than myself who may be
> homeless because there but for his grace go I. And I pray for any
> other number of fears or woes that might set in if I failed to be
> gracious to my omnipotent and omniscient host including even any
> offense I might not even be aware of as they come to mind as I go
> about my daily habits. But moring prayer is just for starters in my
> ceaseless daily prayer ritual of thankfulness including the petition
> for his constant reminders of my needful condition.
>
> If I am atheist I might start my day by cruising the headlines in the
> news for laughs or in disgust.

If you were a good honest Christian, you could have told God: "Damn
it, you didn't take me last night so I could join you."

A wise man --who has the Wisdom of the Jungle-- would lie in a
hammock, enjoying the singing birds and learning from them. He would
then address them, "Hey you, Free Spirits of the Jungle, thank for
brightening my day."

Then he would go and ride a bicycle around his community to burn the
calories --if possible, in this Christian world designed for cars.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 19 2010 9:05 am
From: *VFW*

Not only does the US have the highest rate of incarceration on the
planet, but the racial disparity of arrests, convictions and
imprisonment have become grossly pronounced. Nationwide Afro-Americans
are arrested, convicted and imprisoned disproportionately. Thirty-seven
percent of drug-offense arrests are Afro-Americans, 53 percent of
convictions are of Afro-Americans, and 67 percent -- two-thirds of all
people imprisoned for drug offenses -- are Afro-Americans. This is
depute the fact that Afro-Americans do not use drugs at a perceivable
higher rate than white Americans. - 8.2% of whites and 10.1% of blacks
use illicit drugs.

Much of the voting rights & victories won by the civil rights movement
during the 1960s have effectively been eroded. Nearly 5 million people
are now barred from voting because of felony disenfranchisement laws.
The United States is the only industrial democracy that does this.

Drug prohibition has become a successor system to Jim Crow laws in
targeting black citizens, removing them from civil society and then
barring them from the right to vote. If harsh sentences deterred illicit
drug use, America would be "drug-free" by now. But that is not the case,
and never will be. The drug war has given the "former land of the free"
the highest incarceration rate in the world and disenfranchised millions
of citizens. It is a cure worse than the disease.

for mo;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/neill-franklin/a-cops-advice-on-dealing-_b_
783387.html#s182290
--
Karma, What a concept!

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 19 2010 3:15 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

VFW wrote

> Not only does the US have the highest rate of incarceration
> on the planet, but the racial disparity of arrests, convictions
> and imprisonment have become grossly pronounced.

Because the racial disparity of crime is grossly pronounced.

The murder rate in the white leafy suburbs is no higher than in any other modern
> first world countrys. The murder rate in the ghettos on the other hand...

> Nationwide Afro-Americans are arrested, convicted and imprisoned disproportionately.

Because they do much more crime.

> Thirty-seven percent of drug-offense arrests are Afro-Americans, 53
> percent of convictions are of Afro-Americans, and 67 percent -- two-thirds
> of all people imprisoned for drug offenses -- are Afro-Americans.

All that proves is that they do more of the serious drug crime.

> This is depute the fact that Afro-Americans do not use
> drugs at a perceivable higher rate than white Americans.

They do however do a lot more of the street dealing in drugs.

> - 8.2% of whites and 10.1% of blacks use illicit drugs.

Those numbers are straight from someone's arse, we can tell from the smell.

Its never going to be feasible to get anything like that accuracy
with something thats so easy to do without getting caught.

> Much of the voting rights & victories won by the civil rights
> movement during the 1960s have effectively been eroded.

Thats another lie.

> Nearly 5 million people are now barred from
> voting because of felony disenfranchisement laws.

Thats US law.

> The United States is the only industrial democracy that does this.

Thats another pig ignorant lie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffrage#Criminality

> Drug prohibition has become a successor system to Jim
> Crow laws in targeting black citizens, removing them from
> civil society and then barring them from the right to vote.

Yes, the US has rather silly ideas about recreational drug use.

Its also got some of the more liberal laws too in some states,
most obviously with the ludicrous medical use of marihujana etc.

> If harsh sentences deterred illicit drug use, America would be "drug-free" by now.

Yes, making recreational drug use illegal is as silly as prohibitiion.

The US was one of the few modern first world countrys to get that stupid about alcohol use too.

> But that is not the case, and never will be. The drug war has given
> the "former land of the free" the highest incarceration rate in the world
> and disenfranchised millions of citizens. It is a cure worse than the disease.

Possibly with recreational drug use, but not with important crime like murder
where the US also has the highest murder rate in the modern first world too.

That cant be due to the attitude of the cops, its gotta be due to the mentality of the arseholes doing the murdering.

> for mo;
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/neill-franklin/a-cops-advice-on-dealing-_b_783387.html#s182290

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 19 2010 3:21 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)

In <georgeswk-4E919E.09050519112010@news.toast.net>, *VFW* wrote in part:

>barring them from the right to vote. If harsh sentences deterred illicit
>drug use, America would be "drug-free" by now. But that is not the case,
>and never will be.

In at least much of USA, it is only a misdeanor, often a minor one, to
be a smalltime or "smalltime" drug user.

That creates demand. The price gets to a point that equates supply and
demand with each other. The price gets to a point that motivates people
to get into risky business, especially people who would otherwise be
without income.

I propose that the drug laws in USA should be either like those that USA
had in 1900 (when marijuana, cocaine and opiates were legal), or like
those that my highschool German teacher said Germany had in the late
1970's ("get caught with half a joint, spend 2 years in "The Joint").
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

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