Frugal Living: Dec 12, 2010

Sunday, December 12, 2010

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TOPIC: Internet Fax Service Recommendations
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6e1a23a3bd55231f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 10 2010 10:35 pm
From: Gordon

Kompu Kid <deguza@hotmail.com> wrote in news:97ecd821-069c-46bf-90f1-
b947db17ab68@m20g2000prc.googlegroups.com:

> Hello All:
>
> I have been doing research on getting an internet fax service.
>
> I currently have a free eFax account. Full version will work, but it
> is a bit pricey compared to some others such as Faxbetter.
>
> I will be a low volume user, and having a toll-free number which some
> offer does not matter.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deguza
>
>
>

First off, if you have, or can get, a dialup fax/modem you can use
it to send faxes. Even if you don't use it for internet access.
Unless you don't have a landline.

To receive a fax, check if you have a voicemail service that
can receive faxes. IIRC: Verizon Wireless e-mail can receive
short faxes. Some VoIP phone services also can receive faxes.
It totally beats me why traditional landline companies haven't
been offering this service.

The internet is rife with fax services, it's just a matter of finding
them.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 11 2010 5:44 am
From: SMS

On 12/10/2010 9:21 PM, Kompu Kid wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> I have been doing research on getting an internet fax service.
>
> I currently have a free eFax account. Full version will work, but it
> is a bit pricey compared to some others such as Faxbetter.
>
> I will be a low volume user, and having a toll-free number which some
> offer does not matter.

I've been using Faxaway. $1 a month, outgoing is 11� per minute (U.S.).
No charge for incoming. You'll get a number with a 206 area code. Much
less expensive than Faxbetter.

<http://faxaway.com/>

I find that it can take up to ten minutes for an outgoing FAX to be sent
from their servers.

Basically you want to put whatever you're sending into a .doc file,
though other file formats are supported. They also have a free TIFF
converter which is the format to use for sending graphics that works the
best, but graphics inside a .doc file are also fine.

It doesn't support non-U.S. character sets--you'll need to convert the
document to a TIFF if you use those.

User guide is at <http://faxaway.com/user_guide/Faxaway_User_GUIDE.pdf>

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TOPIC: double insulation symbol
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/be254bdd3ba6829d?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 11 2010 6:20 am
From: s

i got a desk lamp from ebay for 10$ like the one in the image link
below. the bulb is held up by two adjustable telescopic rods, exactly
the same type as you would find on the aerial of a FM radio. they are
metal.

i saw the double insulated symbol on the bottom, which go me thinking.
how did they get the wiring through these rods double insulated, they
are pretty thin. then i examined the rods. they had joints in them.
they werent even hollow! there was no wiring. they were the
conductors.

a quick check with the meter gave 20V AC. thats how it was designed
to light the bulb .

my question is can you have the double insulated symbol on a product
with exposed 20V AC conductors?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31506127@N03/3033028166

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 11 2010 8:08 am
From: Michael Black

On Sat, 11 Dec 2010, s wrote:

> i got a desk lamp from ebay for 10$ like the one in the image link
> below. the bulb is held up by two adjustable telescopic rods, exactly
> the same type as you would find on the aerial of a FM radio. they are
> metal.
>
> i saw the double insulated symbol on the bottom, which go me thinking.
> how did they get the wiring through these rods double insulated, they
> are pretty thin. then i examined the rods. they had joints in them.
> they werent even hollow! there was no wiring. they were the
> conductors.
>
> a quick check with the meter gave 20V AC. thats how it was designed
> to light the bulb .
>
> my question is can you have the double insulated symbol on a product
> with exposed 20V AC conductors?
>
Because 20vac isn't particularly dangerous, the voltage is too low.

There's a transformer in the base that turns the 120volts from the wall
into the 20v the halogen bulb needs.

So surely the "double insulation" is about the ac line cord, and the
primary of the transformer.

Michael

>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/31506127@N03/3033028166
>
>
>

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 11 2010 10:25 am
From: "Rod Speed"

s wrote:
> i got a desk lamp from ebay for 10$ like the one in the image link
> below. the bulb is held up by two adjustable telescopic rods, exactly
> the same type as you would find on the aerial of a FM radio. they are
> metal.
>
> i saw the double insulated symbol on the bottom, which go me thinking.
> how did they get the wiring through these rods double insulated, they
> are pretty thin. then i examined the rods. they had joints in them.
> they werent even hollow! there was no wiring. they were the
> conductors.
>
> a quick check with the meter gave 20V AC. thats how it was designed
> to light the bulb .
>
> my question is can you have the double insulated symbol on a product
> with exposed 20V AC conductors?

Yep, all it needs to do is be double insulated between the metal and the mains.

Lots of stuff is.

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/31506127@N03/3033028166

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TOPIC: Donate body to science?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f0985ff20cddc4aa?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 11 2010 12:17 pm
From: "h"

<JohnDoe@BadISP.org> wrote in message
news:0863g65kaq5vg02ol18met8ltqkvajr20e@4ax.com...
> "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>> So I am thinking about donating my body to science. I would prefer to
>>> have no funeral home expenses - no funeral...
>>>
>>Shrug. Sure, you can do that, but years ago I set up a pre-paid cremation
>>deal for $500. No service, no ashes returned to the "family", no nothing.
>>They pick up the corpse, and you get a fire nap. Done and done. What else
>>do
>>you need? When I croak everything will be taken care of with one phone
>>call.
>>DH has the same thing set up.
>>
>
> Do you have a name or at least how one would go about finding such a
> place?
>
Call local funeral homes or look up "cremation" in the phone book.

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TOPIC: End extended health care for illegal aliens.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c68578e6a57c3346?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 11 2010 2:17 pm
From: Coffee's For Closers

In article <d0800d44-afb7-4657-9e1f-
808359e921e6@n10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
josegoldberg@yahoo.com says...
> On Dec 9, 7:30=A0am, walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just google "costs of illegal alien medical care" or some such wording
> > for the shocking cost.
> > When they show up at emergency rooms for sick babies, pregnancies,
> > they must be reported to ICE for deportation. No long-term care of any
> > kind.

> 25 years ago congress took their usual corporate bribes and passed the
> EMTALA Act which forces ERs to treat illegals!!!! That could and
> should be changed but naturally our super-corrupt congresscriminals
> won't do it. America is being bankrupted by these mexican parasites
> but congressmen are getting rich selling their vote and that's all
> they care about.

As I understand it, the point of EMTALA is that, the hospital
must stabilise the patient before asking about insurance.

For example, let's say you are mugged on the street, your wallet
is gone, and you are unconscious from being bashed on the head.
When the ambulance brings you in, you have no ID, no insurance
card, and no ability to tell them your info.

So how do you feel about the idea of the hospital refusing to
treat your profuse bleeding until they find out your citizenship
status and insurance coverage?

--
Get Credit Where Credit Is Due
http://www.cardreport.com/
Credit Tools, Reference, and Forum

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TOPIC: THIS GROUP IS DEAD
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5ff6b87be3cb1f5f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 11 2010 4:19 pm
From: Millhaven

It makes me sad.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 11 2010 6:57 pm
From: a real cheapskate

On Dec 11, 7:19 pm, Millhaven <millha...@intergate.com> wrote:
> It makes me sad.

they are so frugal they lack internet access:)

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TOPIC: Minimize your foot-print
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e8ae2fdb1aa5fd27?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 11 2010 8:06 pm
From: The VFW

In article
<c3c8159e-6111-407f-adaa-db8ae66f572b@k30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
Al <albundy2@mailinator.com> wrote:

> On Dec 9, 9:56�am, The Messenger <george...@toast.net> wrote:
> > Minimizing one's footprint is a good start. �Own nothing or next to
> > nothing, and have none or next to none legally traceable income. �No
> > income, no ownership, no borrowing or debts, no ledgers to keep or
> > income taxes to pay. �It's all right if others show income, ownership,
> > partnership, credits, debits, domestic or off-shore accounts, legal
> > liabilities or whatever. �The key is keeping yourself out of the loop.
> >
> > Break none of their laws. �Avoid their big cities. �Don't drive or
> > have a driver's license. �Interact as little as possible with local,
> > city, state, or federal government.
> > Watch out!
> > Even Santa knows when you've been sleeping.
> > He knows when you're awake.
> > So, be good for goodness' sake?
> > --
> > Karma, What a concept!
>
> There are ways to do it and it does not involve living in squalor and
> owning nothing. You are doing it wrong.

do tell us more!
I hope it's not being a Tele-evangelist
--
Karma, What a concept!

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TOPIC: HOT ACTRESS
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e30eb7e670859131?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 11 2010 8:40 pm
From: shiv shankar

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TOPIC: Asian ladies for dating
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/22bd64a0c42745e1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 11 2010 11:43 pm
From: Cainwen Jun

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