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* Are name-brand low-energy fluorescent "Green" bulbs any brighter than store
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* Custom printed plastic loyalty cards , www.cards-mart.com - 1 messages, 1
author
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* Wholesale world famous brand(shoes、bags、Apparel、Watch) in china 8-35usd
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* leroy the hillbilly drivels again (Re: Do you want your tax money to pay a
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TOPIC: Are name-brand low-energy fluorescent "Green" bulbs any brighter than
store brand?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/16514de0eabde21c?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 10:56 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In <8b76c1c2-c206-4ebd-9d2f-012c10a84e16@20g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>,
meow2222@care2.com wrote:
>Don Klipstein wrote:
>> In <9d18c4b1-b3fa-40a5-b590-24ebc0ec1197@l39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
>> meow2222@care2.com wrote:
>>
>>>Don Klipstein wrote:
>>>>In <7f-dnb85SsunAqzUnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@posted.visi>, Dave Garland wrote:
>>>>>Well, they should be brighter than a 40W incandescent. Check the lumens
>>>>>rating, that gives you a number to compare. A typical 100W incandescent
>>>>>is around 1600-1700 lumens. Walmart doesn't seem to give the lumen
>>>>>ratings on theirs but a Sylvania CF23EL is indeed rated for 1600 lumens.
>>>>>
>>>>>It may take it a few minutes to reach full brightness.
>>>>>
>>>>>But it seems like all the companies cheat on the "equivalent to" rating,
>>>>>if they say "equivalent to 100W" I figure it should be a bit brighter
>>>>>than a 60W.
>>>>
>>>> My experience is that non-dollar-store CFLs marketed as equivalent to
>>>>100W significantly outperform 75W "standard" 750 hour incandescents rated
>>>>1190-1210 lumens.
>>>
>>>Lumen output drops quite a bit throughout a CFL's life, whereas
>>>filament lamp fall in output is much less. Consequently to get a real
>>>equivalent one needs to start with higher lumen levels than the
>>>equivalent filament lamp.
>>
>> CFLs when aged to 3,000 operating hours have about 10% (maybe a bit
>> more) loss of light output compared to that at 100 hours (industry-
>> standard break-in period, immediately after which their light output
>> is "officially" determined).
>>
>> So the 1600 lumen "100 watt equivalents" can fade to about 1400-1450
>> lumens at 3,000 hours, and fade a little more to maybe about 1300 lumens
>> if and when they get to 6,000-8,000 hours or so. Even that is still a
>> bit brighter than "standard" 75W incandescents.
>>
>> If your home is one of those where the line voltage is on the high side,
>> then incandescents will have much-enhanced photometric performance. Light
>> output from a CFL may be merely roughly proportionate to line voltage,
>> while incandescents have light output typically proportionate to line
>> voltage to the 3.4 or so power.
>> So if you hit a 1190 lumen 75W 120V incandescent with 124V, then you get
>> about 1330 lumens from that incandescent. In homes with higher line
>> voltage, incandescents get a "disproportionate boost" in performance - if
>> you are not bothered by them not lasting as long as they should.
>
>Many of us now use CFLs rated at 10k hrs mean life, so many of them
>will go on to well over 10k. Using your figures and extrapolating
>wildly, at 15k hrs they will have lost somewhere vaguely in the region
>of 50% output. Not that bad in most cases, but yes big drop.
As it turns out, the "halflife" increases a little as the lamps age.
So ones that make it to 15K hours have more like 70%, maybe 75% of the
light output that they had at 100 hours. I have actual experience in an
apartment building that had CFL hallway lights and some of them lasted
that long.
I have seen a few CFLs faded to about 60% or 2/3 or so of their original
light output, after over 2 years of continuous operation. Most don't last
that long.
If one makes it in home use past the 6,000-7,500 operating hours that
they used to be rated for, then I think its owner will be quite happy with
it in terms of actually achieving the long life that they are supposed to
have. My experience seems to support a figure more like 4,000-5,000
hours, due to average ontime less than the "industry standard test
condition" of 3 hours, and average ambient temperature around the lamp and
ballast housing hotter than the "industry standard test condition" of 25 C.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 4:22 am
From: ransley
On Nov 30, 10:43 am, Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 30, 9:35 am, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 29, 5:28 am, Doc <docsavag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Just got a 4-pack of the Walmart "Great Value" version of these energy-
> > > saver style fluorescent 23w bulbs which they claim are equivalent to a
> > > 100w incandescent bulb. Not even close. It's about like a 40w bulb.
>
> > > Are the name brand bulbs of this type any better?
>
> > If its not bright as 100w incandesant return it, Popular Mechanics
> > rated them years ago, its still online but hard to find, I think in
> > the Home section, Consumer reports did a test. I use HD soft white, I
> > get a 9w that equals 40w for about 1$. The HD bulbs rated Better than
> > incandesant for color at Pop mech, such as how it colors your skin. I
> > have 60 in use and failure after 1.5 years with many in commercial use
> > is maybe 2. Heat is what kills the ballast, as long as they are not
> > sealed in an enclosure they last.
>
> http://www.popularmechanics.com/home_journal/home_improvement/4215199...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
How do you post links here, I always recomend them but dont know how
to post them.
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 2:21 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
ransley <Mark_Ransley@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 30, 10:43 am, Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 30, 9:35 am, ransley <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 29, 5:28 am, Doc <docsavag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Just got a 4-pack of the Walmart "Great Value" version of these
>>>> energy- saver style fluorescent 23w bulbs which they claim are
>>>> equivalent to a 100w incandescent bulb. Not even close. It's about
>>>> like a 40w bulb.
>>
>>>> Are the name brand bulbs of this type any better?
>>
>>> If its not bright as 100w incandesant return it, Popular Mechanics
>>> rated them years ago, its still online but hard to find, I think in
>>> the Home section, Consumer reports did a test. I use HD soft white,
>>> I get a 9w that equals 40w for about 1$. The HD bulbs rated Better
>>> than incandesant for color at Pop mech, such as how it colors your
>>> skin. I have 60 in use and failure after 1.5 years with many in
>>> commercial use is maybe 2. Heat is what kills the ballast, as long
>>> as they are not sealed in an enclosure they last.
>> http://www.popularmechanics.com/home_journal/home_improvement/4215199.html
> How do you post links here, I always recomend them but dont know how to post them.
Cut them off the browser address box and paste them into the post.
That doesnt always work, particularly with sites that have a session id but it does work for many sites.
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 2:23 pm
From: "Sam J"
phil scott <phil@philscott.net> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 3:28 am, Doc <docsavag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Just got a 4-pack of the Walmart "Great Value" version of these
>> energy- saver style fluorescent 23w bulbs which they claim are
>> equivalent to a 100w incandescent bulb. Not even close. It's about
>> like a 40w bulb.
>> Are the name brand bulbs of this type any better?
> full spectrum light is crucial to good health...
Like hell it is.
> the body evolved needing all spectums of light (natural light) or incandescent... to be healthy.
Fantasy. You do need adequate levels of natural light, but you dont need artificial light to duplicate that.
> cool white florescent etc..and others have that problem.
> a good google search....' full spectrum light, heatlh, Ott'
Just because some fool claims it doesnt make it gospel.
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 3:02 pm
From: Gordon
ransley <Mark_Ransley@Yahoo.com> wrote in news:d561851d-4d86-414b-8cba-
03f148fce3cd@x8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
> Heat is what kills the ballast, as long as they are not
> sealed in an enclosure they last.
>
Picking up on that thread...
I recently had to buy two CFLs for a pair of enclosed outdoor
fixtures. Most of the general use CFLs that I found were
not suitable. Right on the ballast they stated "Not for
use in an enclosed fixture". A few even stated that they
would not start up at cold temps. I finally found a pair
that didn't have the warning, and actually stated the
startup temperature on the package.
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 6:39 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
In article <slrngj72km.14s.don@manx.misty.com>,
Don Klipstein <don@manx.misty.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
>>Many of us now use CFLs rated at 10k hrs mean life, so many of them
>>will go on to well over 10k. Using your figures and extrapolating
>>wildly, at 15k hrs they will have lost somewhere vaguely in the region
>>of 50% output. Not that bad in most cases, but yes big drop.
[ ... ]
FYI, within the last 5-6 weeks I noticed one of my porch lights was
blinking on and off--a GE FLB17 16w CF with external envelope--and
had to swap it out.
That light had been in near-continuous operation since about 1993 or
1994. It was out on Halloween nights and during a few power failures.
Calculator tells me that's over 120,000 hours. It's output had faded
quite a bit (the 75W incandescent I replaced it with was _much_
brighter--and lasted less than a month) but it was still adequate.
I'll be looking for some more of those...
Gary
--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
"Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man"
General of the Army (four stars) Ann Dunwoody
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 7:20 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In <c5GdneB-1qNQAqnUnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2>, Gary Heston wrote:
>In article <slrngj72km.14s.don@manx.misty.com>,
>Don Klipstein <don@manx.misty.com> wrote:
> [ ... ]
>>>Many of us now use CFLs rated at 10k hrs mean life, so many of them
>>>will go on to well over 10k. Using your figures and extrapolating
>>>wildly, at 15k hrs they will have lost somewhere vaguely in the region
>>>of 50% output. Not that bad in most cases, but yes big drop.
> [ ... ]
>
>FYI, within the last 5-6 weeks I noticed one of my porch lights was
>blinking on and off--a GE FLB17 16w CF with external envelope--and
>had to swap it out.
>
>That light had been in near-continuous operation since about 1993 or
>1994. It was out on Halloween nights and during a few power failures.
>
>Calculator tells me that's over 120,000 hours. It's output had faded
>quite a bit (the 75W incandescent I replaced it with was _much_
>brighter--and lasted less than a month) but it was still adequate.
>
>I'll be looking for some more of those...
Look at all the hardware stores you can get to - I suspect that one is
obsolete.
Otherwise use a Philips "EL/O" / "Outdoor". Last time I checked, that
was still available at Home Depot in 15 watt (optimistically 60 watt
equivalent). Get the 5000 Kelvin "daylight" version if you can - the
spectrum is more favorable to making use of night vision.
If the fixture is enclosed, Philips SLS ("Marathon" triple-arch)
non-dimmable 23 watts or less (especially 15) should work well. Go for 20
or 23 watts if you need the extra fixture heating to get adequate warmup
in the winter.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 12:49 am
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TOPIC: leroy the hillbilly drivels again (Re: Do you want your tax money to
pay a forklift operator $103,000.00 a year)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 2:02 am
From: TruthTeller@nospam.net
Stop driveling asshole. You lost this game, as you lose all of them
because you're stupid and refuse to learn.
However, there is hope for you. You can get out that trailer you live in,
by finding an army recruiter. They are in need of stupid ones who can't
learn and follow orders without thinking. We can see how qualified for
such work by your posts here. In fact you finding an IED would also clean
the gene pool.
In <75u6j4hq78ieooh8mm7cdcjp0f6aeh4efp@4ax.com>, on 12/01/2008
at 12:41 AM, LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> said:
>On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:32:22 GMT, TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>The dance is you there racist asshole. I spean and you come along and
>>whine like a little lost puppy. Its too bad you don't have more to do
>>there in your trailer home.
>kool! It only took you three days to compose your rapier like response
>>In <s3kui4tf565aai3c28refk922jpin0mel2@4ax.com>, on 11/27/2008
>> at 09:03 PM, LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> said:
>>>But we do so hope that you will stay for a while because we enjoy
>>>watching you dance every time we pull your strings. Toying with you is
>>>right up there with feeding maggots to a lizard.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In <rqgui418g8jasjll0blploacapqnsr8keg@4ax.com>, on 11/27/2008
>>>> at 08:07 PM, LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:28:10 GMT, TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for showing us your true colors. You don't give a damn about the
>>>>>>unborn, you're just a hate-filled moron who lies and whines.
>>>>
>>>>>It's clear that you never read the post you respond to. You simply key
>>>>>the macro that inserts some asinine boiler plate clip from your
>>>>>wrong-wing Dogma.
>>>>
>>>>>>In <birri4d3rs5lcsrg7873pht7mutrdhs90f@4ax.com>, on 11/26/2008
>>>>>> at 08:43 PM, LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>Of course the issue to be balloted on will include the following --
>>>>>>>For every child not aborted but born under the conditioned you set down
>>>>>>>there would be deported one wrong-winger aka democrap to Canada. That
>>>>>>>would even out the load on the majority of tax payers who happen to be
>>>>>>>REPUBLICANS, democraps, as clearly demonstrated in the recent election
>>>>>>>and its result. being mostly welfare and food stamps kind of folks.-I
>>>>>>>know you'll agree,
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 9:28 am
From: BubbaMissTheBoyToy
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Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 4:32 pm
From: Observer
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:21:16 -0700, Gunner
<gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:16:53 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gunner" <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote in message
>>news:iteb04psg7i00pde3a7kdproabkfelh12f@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:36:28 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:fu3mnk$254$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
>>>>>> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
>>>>>> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
>>>>>> drive. [...]
>>>>>> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
>>>>>> roadway,[...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage to
>>>>> your truck.
>>>>
>>>>Well, he loves his god damn fucking truck more than he cares about
>>>>children
>>>>as befits any self-respecting truck driver. Yea, macho man!
>>>
>>> Your missing your meds, right?
>>
>>I am not driving a god damn fucking truck with murder in my heart like you
>>are!
>
>What song is that? Got the lyrics?
"Gunner Sucks, Drives a Truck, Got Murder in it's Heart."
>>Hey, why not get a real job like clerking at Wal-Mart? That ought to suit
>>you better.
>
>When I make $75 an hour, why should I downgrade myself to your
>Greeter wages?
Cause you only bill for 2 hours a month, at your rates. You can't
come close to affording your crank whores(s) at that income.
--
The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 11:30 pm
From: Zanasil
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voltage over the rating voltage, the additive will converge, add the
battery resistance quickly and lower the battery fever quantity; The
casio battery np-60 lithium ion battery should have the safe valve,the
safe valve can open to leak to press etc. when the internal pressure
is bigger than the certain value.
Moreover, the control of the manufacturing environment is also very
important, because the impurity led in the manufacture can cause the
lithium casio camera battery np60 safe problem. End, the each battery
cores still need to make many abuse trial test,such as over charge,hot
box,pinprick, squeeze, the temperature pound, exterior short circuit,
drop into the etc., investigating its safe function very well.
reference from:
http://www.power-batteries.net/digital-camera/casio/np-60.html
and http://www.laptop-battery-inc.co.uk/digital-camera-batteries/casio-np-60.htm
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TOPIC: New 650mAh Rechargeable Replacement CASIO NP-20 Digital Camera Battery
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ae7b4d7727629d99?hl=en
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Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 11:34 pm
From: Zanasil
Overview:
This casio np-20 battery is made specifically for canon digital camera
and to meet or exceed the original manufacturer specifications. Spare
casio rechargeable lithium ion np-20 battery pack suitable for CASIO
EX-S100, EX-S600GD, EXILIM EX-Z60 digital cameras. 3.7 volt 650mAh
capacity. Lithium ion technology so no memory effect which means you
can recharge it at any point without having to discharge it first.
With a fully charged battery pack np-20, you will never miss the
important snap moment when you're just about to capture the perfect
moment! Best choice to get extra power for your digital camera.
specifications:
Brand: CASIO
Type: li-ion
Volt: 3.7V
Capacity: 650mAh
Length: 50.90x32.80x4.50mm
Weight: 18.00g
Color: black
This Casio NP-20 Digital Camera Battery Replaces the Following Battery
Parts:
CASIO NP-20
CASIO NP-20DBA
This Casio NP-20 Digital Camera Battery Fits in the Following Models:
CASIO EX-S100 CASIO EX-S500EO CASIO EX-S500GY CASIO EX-S500WE CASIO EX-
S600EO CASIO EX-S600GD CASIO EXILIM EX-M1 CASIO EXILIM EX-M2 CASIO
EXILIM EX-M20 CASIO EXILIM EX-M20U CASIO EXILIM EX-S1 CASIO EXILIM EX-
S100 CASIO Exilim EX-S100WE CASIO EXILIM EX-S1PM CASIO EXILIM EX-S2
CASIO EXILIM EX-S20 CASIO EXILIM EX-S20U CASIO EXILIM EX-S2PW CASIO
EXILIM EX-S3 CASIO Exilim EX-S500 CASIO EXILIM EX-Z3 CASIO EXILIM EX-
Z4 CASIO EXILIM EX-Z4U CASIO EXILIM EX-Z60
visit for info about casio np-20:
http://www.power-batteries.net/digital-camera/casio/np-20.html
http://www.laptop-battery-inc.co.uk/digital-camera-batteries/casio-np-20.htm
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