Frugal Living: Jan 27, 2011

Thursday, January 27, 2011

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 25 new messages in 11 topics - digest

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TOPIC: Individual Health Insurance Rates/Plans
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 11:47 am
From: "Bob F"

I was just going through my options on the new Regence plans. Trying to decide
between the three "Evolve HSA" plans. They have one that pays 50%, one that
pays 80%, and the HSA 100 plan that pays 100% after the $5000 deductable. All
three plans have $5000 maximum out-of-pocket. The 50% plan was $258/mo, the 80%
$375/mo for $3500 deductable, and the 100 plan was $485 for $5000 ded. I just
spent a hour on the phone, talking to 3 people to find out what the "HSA 100"
plan had that the others didn't to make it worth the extra money. The final
word - nothing. For the extra money, you just don't get paid anything until you
get to $5000 out-of-pocket. After that, all the plans pay the same. So the
cheaper plans pay significantly more. The 3rd guy I talked to at Regence said he
could get no answer to explain the high cost of the HSA 100 plan from his
management.

Additionally, Calculating the extra cost of the lower deductable plans, it turns
out that the cost difference is higher than the difference in what they would
pay me, worst case. So lower deductables just make no sense in my case.

I decided against their "Evolve Core" plans because the maximum out-of-pocket is
twice as high as the HSA plans - a $7500 "coinsurance max" plus the deductable
of $2500-$10000.

I was told I had, by law, till the end of this month to make a change after they
came up with these new plans. I just faxed the form in for my change. Maybe
others should look at their options

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 10:43 am
From: "h"

"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ihpto4$aek$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> I was told I had, by law, till the end of this month to make a change
> after they came up with these new plans. I just faxed the form in for my
> change. Maybe others should look at their options

You're lucky. I don't know anyone with health insurance except people on
Medicare. Most of us have no "options". Of course, I haven't seen (needed) a
doctor in 27 years, so I wouldn't have insurance even if I could get it.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 11:00 am
From: "Bob F"

h wrote:
> "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ihpto4$aek$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> I was told I had, by law, till the end of this month to make a change
>> after they came up with these new plans. I just faxed the form in
>> for my change. Maybe others should look at their options
>
> You're lucky. I don't know anyone with health insurance except people
> on Medicare. Most of us have no "options". Of course, I haven't seen
> (needed) a doctor in 27 years, so I wouldn't have insurance even if I
> could get it.

No luck involved. I pay for it. You all have the same options as I do.

I hope you've been saving all those dollars you've not spent on insurance. If
not, one of these days, you'll get in an accident, or have a severe illness, and
the next thing you know, you'll be bankrupt. It's the way our American system
works.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 12:30 pm
From: "h"

"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ihsfc7$737$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>h wrote:
>> "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ihpto4$aek$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> I was told I had, by law, till the end of this month to make a change
>>> after they came up with these new plans. I just faxed the form in
>>> for my change. Maybe others should look at their options
>>
>> You're lucky. I don't know anyone with health insurance except people
>> on Medicare. Most of us have no "options". Of course, I haven't seen
>> (needed) a doctor in 27 years, so I wouldn't have insurance even if I
>> could get it.
>
> No luck involved. I pay for it. You all have the same options as I do.
>

Nope. Not everyone can get insurance and the one place I can find it
(self-employed), they want more than I make in a year, and it doesn't pay
for ANYTHING until you meet the $5,000 deductible. As if. It doesn't help
that my state has decided to "protect" me by requiring all insurance to be
all-inclusive. So it's not possible just to get hospitalization or major
illness coverage, you have to have HMO coverage. So no, not everyone has the
same options you do. And no, I simply won't seek treatment if I become ill
or have an accident. I can't afford it. I accepted that fact years ago.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 4:32 pm
From: "Bob F"

h wrote:
> "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ihsfc7$737$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> h wrote:
>>> "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ihpto4$aek$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>
>>>> I was told I had, by law, till the end of this month to make a
>>>> change after they came up with these new plans. I just faxed the
>>>> form in for my change. Maybe others should look at their options
>>>
>>> You're lucky. I don't know anyone with health insurance except
>>> people on Medicare. Most of us have no "options". Of course, I
>>> haven't seen (needed) a doctor in 27 years, so I wouldn't have
>>> insurance even if I could get it.
>>
>> No luck involved. I pay for it. You all have the same options as I
>> do.
>
> Nope. Not everyone can get insurance and the one place I can find it
> (self-employed), they want more than I make in a year, and it doesn't
> pay for ANYTHING until you meet the $5,000 deductible. As if. It
> doesn't help that my state has decided to "protect" me by requiring
> all insurance to be all-inclusive. So it's not possible just to get
> hospitalization or major illness coverage, you have to have HMO
> coverage. So no, not everyone has the same options you do. And no, I
> simply won't seek treatment if I become ill or have an accident. I
> can't afford it. I accepted that fact years ago.

Too bad the polititions can't figure out how bad it is and do something about
it.

I origionally bought my insurance many years ago when I became self-employed.
The cost has gone up astronomically since then. I keep switching to higher
deductable, less generous plans to keep it reasonable. I know I need it because
of my "pre-existing" condition, and maintain it to handle major problems which
can be horribly expensive. I'm glad I "got into the system" while the getting
was good, if what you say is true.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 8:42 pm
From: vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com

Thanks, I couldn't find $5k dedxbl before,
which is what I wanted.
I only found $2k and $25k.

- = -
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TOPIC: Examining Creation #497: Why Don't humans Have Wheels?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 5:06 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"

(If this topic seems dumb to you is because I didn't start it. But my
wisdom is all over the place)

On Jan 26, 4:31 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 26, 11:03 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> the deep jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 26, 4:57 am, Devils Advocaat <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 25, 7:15 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> > > the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 25, 12:01 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 25, 3:42 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> > > > > the deep jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jan 25, 9:35 am, Devils Advocaat <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 25, 1:42 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> > > > > > > the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 8:04 am, Devils Advocaat <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 9:12 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> > > > > > > > > the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 3:02 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankyg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 6:59 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> > > > > > > > > > > the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 24, 1:48 pm, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > why dont we have gills, wings like angels, wheels, rocket powered
> > > > > > > > > > > > > arms....
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > We are the only animal to have created the wheel. Mice are just happy
> > > > > > > > > > > > to use it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Do the Christians know how to use it?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > And on another tangent, if God designed the banana to suit the human
> > > > > > > > > > > hand, how come its monkeys that get the lion's share?
>
> > > > > > > > > > Do monkeys get the lion's share, or they get's the monkey's share?
>
> > > > > > > > > Well as lions don't eat bananas, and monkeys always grab what they
> > > > > > > > > can, I still reckon they get the lion's share :)
>
> > > > > > > > Well, it remains to be seen whether the lions will eat the banana when
> > > > > > > > they are really, really starving.
>
> > > > > > > > In the meantime, they keep the lion's share.
>
> > > > > > > I am still inclined to disagree.
>
> > > > > > > For the only time a lion eats a banana is when he eats the monkey that
> > > > > > > has already eaten it. :P
>
> > > > > > The monkey says, "Eat this!"
>
> > > > > >http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Giving%20The%20Finger.jpg
>
> > > > > A fine likeness of yourself :P
>
> > > > The monkey says, "The lion won't get out alive out here!"
>
> > > > And indeed lions do not live in the jungle, but in the savanna.
>
> > > Which proves that the monkeys get the lion's share :P
>
> > It only proves that they must be happy with peanuts and banana. ;)
>
> > The lion though drives the monkey into a frenzy so they can be like
> > him instead of who they are. It's called CONSUMERISM.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The wheel was left for humans to invent, along with 8 cog
> clusters and Campy derailleurs.

And then it's totally insane that the Christians don't make room in
their prayers and driving for the cyclists.

I think they hate human ingenuity as well as smart people who are not
fat and dumb.

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TOPIC: Confirmed: No bicycles in Heaven!
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 6:32 am
From: Opus

On Jan 26, 1:24 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 26, 12:30 pm, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:
>snip<
> > I think what the person you were communicating with was saying was
> > that should we need transportation in Heaven, we would not need to
> > exert ourselves doing so, not that there were fleets of SUVs carrying
> > people around. Of course in an infinitely large space over an
> > infinitely large surface, any transportation system eventually becomes
> > useless if it runs at a finite speed like all vehicular systems must.
> > SUVs, scooters, and even bicycles would be mere diversions in Heaven,
> > which would violate the stated purpose of praising the God that
> > brought us there, endlessly. From my point of view the only difference
> > between the way Heaven and Hell are depicted is the means of torment,
> > Hell being physical and Heaven being psychological.
>
> In other words, cyclists suffer both Heaven and Hell. Heaven is the
> promise, but Heaven is the reality.
>
> If we got nothing to do up there though what's the point of being
> there? Heaven will be Hell!
>
> Even my parrots go crazy when I don't provide them something to do.

But we will have something to do in Heaven, we will be endlessly
singing praises to Gawd after being blessed with perfect singing
voices, which means that Gawd is such an insecure sociopath that He
must be endlessly praised, or that Heaven is utter Bunk as a concept.
Given that Christians can't stand to have anything that contradicts
their Bible taught in our schools (or even anything they think might
contradict what's in their imaginary bible), either one is a good
working hypothesis.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 1:22 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"

On Jan 27, 9:32 am, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 26, 1:24 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 26, 12:30 pm, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >snip<
> > > I think what the person you were communicating with was saying was
> > > that should we need transportation in Heaven, we would not need to
> > > exert ourselves doing so, not that there were fleets of SUVs carrying
> > > people around. Of course in an infinitely large space over an
> > > infinitely large surface, any transportation system eventually becomes
> > > useless if it runs at a finite speed like all vehicular systems must.
> > > SUVs, scooters, and even bicycles would be mere diversions in Heaven,
> > > which would violate the stated purpose of praising the God that
> > > brought us there, endlessly. From my point of view the only difference
> > > between the way Heaven and Hell are depicted is the means of torment,
> > > Hell being physical and Heaven being psychological.
>
> > In other words, cyclists suffer both Heaven and Hell. Heaven is the
> > promise, but Heaven is the reality.
>
> > If we got nothing to do up there though what's the point of being
> > there? Heaven will be Hell!
>
> > Even my parrots go crazy when I don't provide them something to do.
>
> But we will have something to do in Heaven, we will be endlessly
> singing praises to Gawd after being blessed with perfect singing
> voices, which means that Gawd is such an insecure sociopath that He
> must be endlessly praised, or that Heaven is utter Bunk as a concept.
> Given that Christians can't stand to have anything that contradicts
> their Bible taught in our schools (or even anything they think might
> contradict what's in their imaginary bible), either one is a good
> working hypothesis.

They will singing praise to Gawd from 8 to 12 in the morning. Then
half an hour lunch and more BS. That's Bible Study until 7pm, when you
get to discuss the stuff you learned and tested, until everybody goes
to bed at 10 pm.

When you get an F they send you to Hell, where everybody does whatever
they want.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 1:43 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"

We keep producing more hypotheses...

> On Jan 27, 2:14 pm, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:

> > On Jan 26, 10:31 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > The wheel was left for humans to invent, along with 8 cog
> > > clusters and Campy derailleurs.
>
> > I was thinking of the Velocette LE with its QD shaft drive wheel that
> > could be removed in circa 45 seconds.

> God didn't give us those, either.

God didn't give us the wheel because he was afraid. He made us bipedal
though which means he knew about the pedals.

He didn't give us wings because we would be flying all over the place,
and kings and rulers couldn't keep us confined to a place. Of course,
he hates people who like to roam around. Only angels can.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 1:50 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"

On Jan 26, 3:46 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 24, 12:58 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> the deep jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Someone just told me that only SUVs are found in Heaven. I don't know
> > if Heaven is for big shots only, but this bastard (it must be a
> > bastard) denied there are bicycles in which case the poor are denied
> > admission.
>
> > Funny, I already was getting ideas like jumping with my monkey bike
> > all over the place and never getting hurt or killed. The idea of
> > wings, on the other hand, seem to have fallen out of fashion and now
> > people try to use their power and influence to get near God.
>
> > But like I say, Heaven and Hell are on this Earth and cyclists are
> > pedestrians with wings. Only poor pedestrians don't have wings and are
> > threatened by cyclists on sidewalks. Even our roads are pretty hellish
> > too for drivers! Such is life, Darwinism all around us.
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> Christ rides a unicycle. The bible says so.

You sure? I think it says the Bible is to be recycled.

Unless you want to burn it but that's no good for the Planet.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 1:54 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"

On Jan 27, 1:23 am, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed 1/26/11 22:53, Ben Kaufman wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:14:15 -0600, Dakota<ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Wed 1/26/11 14:46, Father Haskell wrote:
> >>> On Jan 24, 12:58 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> >>> the deep jungle"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> Someone just told me that only SUVs are found in Heaven. I don't know
> >>>> if Heaven is for big shots only, but this bastard (it must be a
> >>>> bastard) denied there are bicycles in which case the poor are denied
> >>>> admission.
>
> >>>> Funny, I already was getting ideas like jumping with my monkey bike
> >>>> all over the place and never getting hurt or killed. The idea of
> >>>> wings, on the other hand, seem to have fallen out of fashion and now
> >>>> people try to use their power and influence to get near God.
>
> >>>> But like I say, Heaven and Hell are on this Earth and cyclists are
> >>>> pedestrians with wings. Only poor pedestrians don't have wings and are
> >>>> threatened by cyclists on sidewalks. Even our roads are pretty hellish
> >>>> too for drivers! Such is life, Darwinism all around us.
>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>>>http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> >>> Christ rides a unicycle. The bible says so.
>
> >> Jesus would drive a Plymouth. When the moneychangers were in the temple,
> >> it says, "He drove them out in his Fury."
>
> >>http://www.fark.com/comments/3144406/What-would-Jesus-drive-I-just-as...
>
> > I hope he had an air freshener.
>
> > Ben
>
> He had one of those pine tree shaped ones hanging from the mirror along
> with the fuzzy dice. Plastic himself on the dash. Jesus was cool, man.

Jesus is supercool...

http://imgs.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/hleon/2010/12/17/9_funny_jesus_thumbs_up.jpg

If I were to come up with a brand air-conditioners, I'd call them
Jesus.

And the Devil is hot, superhot!

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 6:36 am
From: RAMYA

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 10:47 am
From: Thomas' promises

Searching for Mr. Right
Before facing cage after cage of homeless cats, consider your needs and
expectations. If yours is a full-time working household, I recommend
passing up kittens and adolescents (less than eighteen months old) in
favor of a more low-key adult whose energy needs will be easier to meet.
If you are a novice cat owner, stay away from "excessive" cats --
excessively shy, aggressive or demanding -- for they may provide too
great a challenge for your first experience. Your best bet is the
friendly, outgoing cat, who nudges an outstretched finger offered
through the cage bars and who nuzzles and purrs when you hold him in
your arms. This profile is a particularly good choice for families with
children younger than seven years of age.
Is coat color or pattern important? By all means, choose a cat who
attracts you, but remember that the gorgeous calico hiding at the back
of her cage may well go into prolonged hiding once she is released into
your home. A cat who is social and relaxed at a shelter usually has the
aplomb to meet the stresses that life throws her way. Consider the whole
cat, not just one element.
A cat in your life can add warmth, humor and peace of mind. A cat can
teach your child empathy for others while keeping her secrets. If you
can make the commitment, a cat is waiting to enhance your life in ways
only a kindred spirit can.
--
Karma, What a concept!

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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 12:27 pm
From: "Mr Pounder"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:15995d3e-f328-4925-b287-04e8805e97cd@y19g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 26, 12:18 pm, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 11:50 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > (This may be applicable to any great project that never comes --such
> > as bullet trains or bike facilities. Words like "Master Plan" abound.
> > Under communism they were known as Five Year Plans)
>
> > "Whether you reject the Bible, the hobos occupying your community, cat
> > shit or any kind of shit, this is the campaign for you. Politics and
> > religion may never be the same. You want them to deliver the goods
> > now!"
>
> >http://www.zazzle.com/bullshitcampaign_tshirt-235412118881194491
>
> > Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. I just hate it when
> > I step on cat's shit or when they talk about Jesus coming soon!
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > The Banana Revolution can deliver the goods... "Bananas for all!"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> Like I'm getting here in the suburbs of Hell, the "Dallas Master Bike
> plan". Hundreds of pages of maps for bike routes and paths, with no
> way to pay for any of it. And in the city I live in it's even worse, I
> can't even read the "Garland Master Bike Plan", because it doesn't
> exist. But the city's 2030 master planning document refers to it
> repeatedly, as if it was a real document.

Yeah, I was "inspired" while trying to figure mine out. ;)

"COMING SOON!"

Apart from your socks, does anybody ever reply to your postings?
This is not a reply, this is a question.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 1:15 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"

On Jan 27, 3:27 pm, "Mr Pounder" <MrPoun...@RationalThought.com>
wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:15995d3e-f328-4925-b287-04e8805e97cd@y19g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 26, 12:18 pm, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 25, 11:50 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> > the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > (This may be applicable to any great project that never comes --such
> > > as bullet trains or bike facilities. Words like "Master Plan" abound.
> > > Under communism they were known as Five Year Plans)
>
> > > "Whether you reject the Bible, the hobos occupying your community, cat
> > > shit or any kind of shit, this is the campaign for you. Politics and
> > > religion may never be the same. You want them to deliver the goods
> > > now!"
>
> > >http://www.zazzle.com/bullshitcampaign_tshirt-235412118881194491
>
> > > Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. I just hate it when
> > > I step on cat's shit or when they talk about Jesus coming soon!
>
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > The Banana Revolution can deliver the goods... "Bananas for all!"
>
> > >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> > Like I'm getting here in the suburbs of Hell, the "Dallas Master Bike
> > plan". Hundreds of pages of maps for bike routes and paths, with no
> > way to pay for any of it. And in the city I live in it's even worse, I
> > can't even read the "Garland Master Bike Plan", because it doesn't
> > exist. But the city's 2030 master planning document refers to it
> > repeatedly, as if it was a real document.
>
> Yeah, I was "inspired" while trying to figure mine out. ;)
>
> "COMING SOON!"
>
> Apart from your socks, does anybody ever reply to your postings?
> This is not a reply, this is a question.

Dozens, usually in the groups where they are fed with the bullshit.

Or you think I make them up? Funny, I even even get more replies about
bicycles in other groups.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 5:28 pm
From: Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net">

On 1/27/2011 2:27 PM, Mr Pounder wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"
> <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:15995d3e-f328-4925-b287-04e8805e97cd@y19g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> [...]
> Apart from your socks, does anybody ever reply to your postings?
> This is not a reply, this is a question.

Besides Mr. Ed Dolan's cut and paste?

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 5:36 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"

On Jan 27, 8:28 pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net"> wrote:
> On 1/27/2011 2:27 PM, Mr Pounder wrote:
>
> > "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"
> > <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:15995d3e-f328-4925-b287-04e8805e97cd@y19g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> > [...]
> > Apart from your socks, does anybody ever reply to your postings?
> > This is not a reply, this is a question.
>
> Besides Mr. Ed Dolan's cut and paste?

You must be clever to follow me and make fun of everything.

We are just having a good time instead of crying over our desperate
situation.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 5:42 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"

On Jan 27, 8:15 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > When you
> > are loved and accepted by God, you can count on many wonderful things
> > in Heaven...and it will never be boring and old.
>
> Never be boring, my ass. It'll be as exciting as watching
> floor wax dry.

Sex is the only thing exciting in Heaven and it's taken in a pill. It
lasts 5 minutes.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 2:07 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"

On Jan 27, 12:52 am, Apostate <Apost...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote:

> In point of fact, the poster claims to be a Conservative Jew.
>
> Not that there's anything /wrong/ with that.

Everything is wrong with that --mind you, not the Jewish part.
Conservatives are opposed to evolution and they refuse to allow
smarter ways of life to emerge.

(Such as the idea or riding a bike in the community. Tell me about it.
I got a Jewish community close by.)

---------------------------------------------------------

http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 5:12 pm
From: mxzyplx

Anyone have any tips or info on what pitfalls may lie in renting a
storage unit for some fairly non-valuable stuff but has sentimental
value? Anyone with experience in this industry either as a consumer
or operator that can fill me in? Thanks.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 5:46 pm
From: Shawn Hirn

In article <iht55s$1mm$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
mxzyplx <mxzyplx@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone have any tips or info on what pitfalls may lie in renting a
> storage unit for some fairly non-valuable stuff but has sentimental
> value? Anyone with experience in this industry either as a consumer
> or operator that can fill me in? Thanks.

Its really hard to generalize. It depends on the facilities in your
area. Ask neighbors and friends for recommendations. I just went with
the storage facility nearest to where I live and I have not had any
problems. Be sure though that you insure whatever you store in the
facility. In fact, many storage facilities require that you do that.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 7:22 pm
From: dsi1

On 1/25/2011 2:46 AM, C. E. White wrote:
> "Al"<albundy2@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:1b335ac9-07df-48bc-8283-345c3295cc39@l22g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>> My GMC Sierra has all the gauges and I keep an eye on them.
>
> But how many are in fact "real" gauges? GM does still include a real
> pressure transducer for oil pressure (or at least they did the last time I
> looked at GM Truck Manual), BUT the dash oil pressure gauge is not connected
> directly to the transducer. The signal for all of the gauges is routed
> trough the PCM, so GM can play the same sort of games with the dash reading
> as anyone else. Maybe the reading are "real time" or maybe not (hard to tell
> from the wiring diagrams). But at least they do gather actual oil pressure
> information beyond some and none - although given the reliability of most
> cheap transducers I am not sure there is any practical difference.
>
> Ed
>
>

The temperature gauge in my 99 Camry sure acts like a fake analog gauge.
I've never had a gauge that was so rock steady. That's OK, it would
probably cause me worry if moved all over the place like real gauges do.
Thanks for the low down.

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Date: Thurs, Jan 27 2011 9:14 pm
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 10:28 pm
From: aesthete8

Any reactions to that?

Is that recommendable?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 5:34 am
From: a real cheapskate

On Jan 26, 1:28 am, aesthete8 <art...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any reactions to that?
>
> Is that recommendable?

kodak printers have the lowest cost ink..........

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 5:57 am
From: Jeff Thies

On 1/26/2011 1:28 AM, aesthete8 wrote:
> Any reactions to that?
>
> Is that recommendable?

Let's see, you want to buy a discontinued printer.

I'm not directly familiar with that, but I have owned other Lexmarks.
The ink cartridges are expensive and the printer head is in the
cartridge. Ink has a tendency to dry there and you have to replace
cartridges that still have ink in them. With all the head cleaning and
realignment needed, you can run out of ink doing nothing. I'll never buy
another.

Spend a little more, the ink, not the cost of the printer is what you
need to worry about.

I've been liking the HP stuff (recycles ink used to clean heads), but
no manufacturer is without issues. Definitely get a separate black and I
prefer separate colors instead of all in the same cartridge.

Jeff

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 9:18 am
From: Opus

On Jan 25, 11:50 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> (This may be applicable to any great project that never comes --such
> as bullet trains or bike facilities. Words like "Master Plan" abound.
> Under communism they were known as Five Year Plans)
>
> "Whether you reject the Bible, the hobos occupying your community, cat
> shit or any kind of shit, this is the campaign for you. Politics and
> religion may never be the same. You want them to deliver the goods
> now!"
>
> http://www.zazzle.com/bullshitcampaign_tshirt-235412118881194491
>
> Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. I just hate it when
> I step on cat's shit or when they talk about Jesus coming soon!
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The Banana Revolution can deliver the goods... "Bananas for all!"
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

Like I'm getting here in the suburbs of Hell, the "Dallas Master Bike
plan". Hundreds of pages of maps for bike routes and paths, with no
way to pay for any of it. And in the city I live in it's even worse, I
can't even read the "Garland Master Bike Plan", because it doesn't
exist. But the city's 2030 master planning document refers to it
repeatedly, as if it was a real document.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 9:21 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"

On Jan 26, 12:18 pm, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 11:50 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > (This may be applicable to any great project that never comes --such
> > as bullet trains or bike facilities. Words like "Master Plan" abound.
> > Under communism they were known as Five Year Plans)
>
> > "Whether you reject the Bible, the hobos occupying your community, cat
> > shit or any kind of shit, this is the campaign for you. Politics and
> > religion may never be the same. You want them to deliver the goods
> > now!"
>
> >http://www.zazzle.com/bullshitcampaign_tshirt-235412118881194491
>
> > Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. I just hate it when
> > I step on cat's shit or when they talk about Jesus coming soon!
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > The Banana Revolution can deliver the goods... "Bananas for all!"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> Like I'm getting here in the suburbs of Hell, the "Dallas Master Bike
> plan". Hundreds of pages of maps for bike routes and paths, with no
> way to pay for any of it. And in the city I live in it's even worse, I
> can't even read the "Garland Master Bike Plan", because it doesn't
> exist. But the city's 2030 master planning document refers to it
> repeatedly, as if it was a real document.

Yeah, I was "inspired" while trying to figure mine out. ;)

"COMING SOON!"

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 10:12 am
From: The Real Bev

On 01/26/11 09:18, Opus wrote:

> Like I'm getting here in the suburbs of Hell, the "Dallas Master Bike
> plan". Hundreds of pages of maps for bike routes and paths, with no
> way to pay for any of it.

Don't worry about the cost, paint is (or at least should be) cheap.
That's all Pasadena's bike lanes are. Totally useless, but they allow
the City Fathers to feel good about themselves. No idea how much the
'Share the Road' signs are, but they're equally useless and probably a
lot more expensive.

If they really want to be bike friendly they'd fix the goddam potholes
and paving discontinuities.

> And in the city I live in it's even worse, I
> can't even read the "Garland Master Bike Plan", because it doesn't
> exist. But the city's 2030 master planning document refers to it
> repeatedly, as if it was a real document.

And here we think the feds are corrupt -- at least on a percentage basis
cities have it way over Washington when it comes to thieving officials.

--
Cheers, Bev
*************************************************
Never argue with a woman holding a torque wrench.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 11:09 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"

On Jan 26, 1:12 pm, The Real Bev <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/26/11 09:18, Opus wrote:
>
> > Like I'm getting here in the suburbs of Hell, the "Dallas Master Bike
> > plan". Hundreds of pages of maps for bike routes and paths, with no
> > way to pay for any of it.
>
> Don't worry about the cost, paint is (or at least should be) cheap.
> That's all Pasadena's bike lanes are. Totally useless, but they allow
> the City Fathers to feel good about themselves. No idea how much the
> 'Share the Road' signs are, but they're equally useless and probably a
> lot more expensive.
>
> If they really want to be bike friendly they'd fix the goddam potholes
> and paving discontinuities.

That's why many people use mountain bikes in the middle of the city,
right?

Here we have dozens of bike lanes but they are never connected to be
usable.

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 9:30 am
From: Opus

On Jan 25, 11:54 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 12:39 pm, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 24, 6:24 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> > the deep jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Someone just told me that only SUVs are found in Heaven. I don't know
> > > if Heaven is for big shots only, but this bastard (it must be a
> > > bastard) denied there are bicycles in which case the poor are denied
> > > admission.
>
> > > Funny, I already was getting ideas like jumping with my monkey bike
> > > all over the place and never getting hurt or killed. The idea of
> > > wings, on the other hand, seem to have fallen out of fashion and now
> > > people try to use their power and influence to get near God.
>
> > > But like I say, Heaven and Hell are on this Earth and cyclists are
> > > pedestrians with wings. Only poor pedestrians don't have wings and are
> > > threatened by cyclists on sidewalks. Even our roads are pretty hellish
> > > too for drivers! Such is life, Darwinism all around us.
>
> > Why would you need bicycles in heaven when you are equipped with a
> > nice pair of wings?
>
> I hate flying. Heaven must have bicycles or scooters.
>
> Actually I think scooters are way more fun, but it doesn't keep you
> fit. And who cares anyway when we all will be fat up there. (This is
> an educated guess, seeing Christians being lazy and driving to the
> store.)
>
> You know, we should drive scooters instead of cars.

I think what the person you were communicating with was saying was
that should we need transportation in Heaven, we would not need to
exert ourselves doing so, not that thee were fleets of SUVs carrying
people around. Of course in an infinitely large space over an
infinitely large surface, any transportation system eventually becomes
useless if it runs at a finite speed like all vehicular systems must.
SUVs, scooters, and even bicycles would be mere diversions in Heaven,
which would violate the stated purpose of praising the God that
brought us there, endlessly. From my point of view the only difference
between the way Heaven and Hell are depicted is the means of torment,
Hell being physical and Heaven being psychological.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 11:24 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"

On Jan 26, 12:30 pm, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 11:54 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 25, 12:39 pm, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 24, 6:24 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> > > the deep jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Someone just told me that only SUVs are found in Heaven. I don't know
> > > > if Heaven is for big shots only, but this bastard (it must be a
> > > > bastard) denied there are bicycles in which case the poor are denied
> > > > admission.
>
> > > > Funny, I already was getting ideas like jumping with my monkey bike
> > > > all over the place and never getting hurt or killed. The idea of
> > > > wings, on the other hand, seem to have fallen out of fashion and now
> > > > people try to use their power and influence to get near God.
>
> > > > But like I say, Heaven and Hell are on this Earth and cyclists are
> > > > pedestrians with wings. Only poor pedestrians don't have wings and are
> > > > threatened by cyclists on sidewalks. Even our roads are pretty hellish
> > > > too for drivers! Such is life, Darwinism all around us.
>
> > > Why would you need bicycles in heaven when you are equipped with a
> > > nice pair of wings?
>
> > I hate flying. Heaven must have bicycles or scooters.
>
> > Actually I think scooters are way more fun, but it doesn't keep you
> > fit. And who cares anyway when we all will be fat up there. (This is
> > an educated guess, seeing Christians being lazy and driving to the
> > store.)
>
> > You know, we should drive scooters instead of cars.
>
> I think what the person you were communicating with was saying was
> that should we need transportation in Heaven, we would not need to
> exert ourselves doing so, not that thee were fleets of SUVs carrying
> people around. Of course in an infinitely large space over an
> infinitely large surface, any transportation system eventually becomes
> useless if it runs at a finite speed like all vehicular systems must.
> SUVs, scooters, and even bicycles would be mere diversions in Heaven,
> which would violate the stated purpose of praising the God that
> brought us there, endlessly. From my point of view the only difference
> between the way Heaven and Hell are depicted is the means of torment,
> Hell being physical and Heaven being psychological.

In other words, cyclists suffer both Heaven and Hell. Heaven is the
promise, but Heaven is the reality.

If we got nothing to do up there though what's the point of being
there? Heaven will be Hell!

Even my parrots go crazy when I don't provide them something to do.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 11:47 am
From: "Bob F"