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* Great Value (Walmart/Perdue) chicken nuggets recalled - 1 messages, 1 author
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* MESMARISING VIDEOS&HOT PHOTOS - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Which car guide and petrol/diesel engines - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* Shox Basketball,Shox Turbo OZ,Shox Electric,Shox TR,Shox D,Shox (http://www.
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* Whooping Cough vs Pesticide Programs. - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* The 11th Commandment - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Bed Bugs got you uptight at night? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Ed Dolan the Great and the denizens of Usenet - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* CommonCents: Anyone using it? - 3 messages, 3 authors
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TOPIC: Great Value (Walmart/Perdue) chicken nuggets recalled
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/0ce0be343e4abd6e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 22 2010 9:46 pm
From: rincewind
On Sep 6, 10:43 am, tmclone <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> On Sep 6, 12:26 am, rincewind <edrho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 20, 3:38 pm, enough <blinkingblyth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm curious as to why only stuff Perdue sent to Walmart had possible
> > contamination.
> > Perdue sends foods to lots of wholesalers, why was this shipment the
> > only one in danger.
>
> > And, why is this Walmart's fault? They didn't prepare the chicken,
> > Perdue did.
>
> The OP is a troll who spams this same crap over and over again. It
> posts the same stuff every few months. Zeez does the same thing. Just
> KF them and move along.
Oh. I should have realized that. Thanks for the heads up.
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TOPIC: MESMARISING VIDEOS&HOT PHOTOS
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TOPIC: Which car guide and petrol/diesel engines
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 12:18 am
From: "Doctor D"
"Forrest Hodge" <fo19@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:i7e801$o9o$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 9/22/2010 7:25 AM, john hamilton wrote:
>> Thinking about buying an older second hand car I was looking through an
>> old
>> 'Which car guide 2005/2006' and got to wondering why under the heading of
>> *driving experience* cars with a diesel engine is always getting a higher
>> rating than the petrol model. (ie a red star as opposed to a circle
>> rating)
>>
>> I contacted Which quite some time and asked them, but never got a
>> response.
>>
>> Having never owned a diesel car I dont really know what they are like to
>> drive. I know people used to say that the 'power to revolution' curve was
>> different to a petrol engine and if you were used to driving a petrol
>> engine, it would take time to get used to the diesel. But it would never
>> be
>> quite so satisfying to drive as the petrol engine. I guess things
>> probably
>> have changed by now.
>>
>> Since though 2005/2006 is not that long ago, is Which saying that diesel
>> engines are nicer to drive than petrol? (a better driving experience)
>> because they are getting a higher rating in this category than petrol
>> engines? Thanks for any advice.
>>
>>
> Here in the states diesels aren't that common for passenger cars, there
> are a few, but 95% are gasoline (petrol) powered. I did get a chance to
> drive a neighbors cars back to back, They were both VW Jettas one with a
> 2.8L petrol V6 and the other was a 1.9L TDI. I thought the petrol VR6 was
> far better. The TDI had good initial thrust, but it's power quickly
> diminished after about 2500 RPM. In the interest of disclosure, my daily
> driver has supercharged 4.6L V8 (petrol) under the hood, so my
> expectations may have be too optimistic. If you like to drive in sporting
> manner then I think petrol is the way to do. Diesels will obviously return
> better fuel economy.
Not at all scientific and completely subjective..........whilst in the
States earlier this year I drove just over 1,500 miles in a newish (7,000
miles) Chrysler Town & Country people carrier fitted with a 3.8L V6 petrol
engine and 6 speed autobox.
Although it's difficult to compare like for like (as the US roads are so
different from the twisting A roads and lanes around here) it didn't seem as
quick as my regular 2.0TDi Touran with DSG. Kickdown in the Chrysler
resulted in a lot of V6 noise but not much acceleration, whereas the Touran
is a lot more responsive on kickdown for joining a motorway or overtaking.
As for economy, even at US petrol prices - gulp.
Back to the original question. IMO any HDi Pug/Citroen will be nicer than
the 1.6/1.8 petrol, the VW group TDi engines seem far more drivable than the
1.6/2.0 engines. Not driven a VW 1.4T petrol engine for comparison.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 5:14 pm
From: "The Henchman"
>
> Although it's difficult to compare like for like (as the US roads are so
> different from the twisting A roads and lanes around here) it didn't seem
> as quick as my regular 2.0TDi Touran with DSG. Kickdown in the Chrysler
> resulted in a lot of V6 noise but not much acceleration, whereas the
> Touran is a lot more responsive on kickdown for joining a motorway or
> overtaking.
Goveners and speed or torque limiters are different in the US/Canada than
the UK maybe? I had a Chrysler 4 door v6 car (mid sized in north America
but considered large in the UK) that was limited to about 4500 RPM
>
> As for economy, even at US petrol prices - gulp.
>
> Back to the original question. IMO any HDi Pug/Citroen will be nicer than
> the 1.6/1.8 petrol, the VW group TDi engines seem far more drivable than
> the 1.6/2.0 engines. Not driven a VW 1.4T petrol engine for comparison.
Gasoline direct injection is fast becoming the standard on all new north
American vehicles.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 7:06 pm
From: Forrest Hodge
On 9/23/2010 3:18 AM, Doctor D wrote:
>
> "Forrest Hodge" <fo19@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:i7e801$o9o$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 9/22/2010 7:25 AM, john hamilton wrote:
>>> Thinking about buying an older second hand car I was looking through
>>> an old
>>> 'Which car guide 2005/2006' and got to wondering why under the
>>> heading of
>>> *driving experience* cars with a diesel engine is always getting a
>>> higher
>>> rating than the petrol model. (ie a red star as opposed to a circle
>>> rating)
>>>
>>> I contacted Which quite some time and asked them, but never got a
>>> response.
>>>
>>> Having never owned a diesel car I dont really know what they are like to
>>> drive. I know people used to say that the 'power to revolution' curve
>>> was
>>> different to a petrol engine and if you were used to driving a petrol
>>> engine, it would take time to get used to the diesel. But it would
>>> never be
>>> quite so satisfying to drive as the petrol engine. I guess things
>>> probably
>>> have changed by now.
>>>
>>> Since though 2005/2006 is not that long ago, is Which saying that diesel
>>> engines are nicer to drive than petrol? (a better driving experience)
>>> because they are getting a higher rating in this category than petrol
>>> engines? Thanks for any advice.
>>>
>>>
>> Here in the states diesels aren't that common for passenger cars,
>> there are a few, but 95% are gasoline (petrol) powered. I did get a
>> chance to drive a neighbors cars back to back, They were both VW
>> Jettas one with a 2.8L petrol V6 and the other was a 1.9L TDI. I
>> thought the petrol VR6 was far better. The TDI had good initial
>> thrust, but it's power quickly diminished after about 2500 RPM. In the
>> interest of disclosure, my daily driver has supercharged 4.6L V8
>> (petrol) under the hood, so my expectations may have be too
>> optimistic. If you like to drive in sporting manner then I think
>> petrol is the way to do. Diesels will obviously return better fuel
>> economy.
>
> Not at all scientific and completely subjective..........whilst in the
> States earlier this year I drove just over 1,500 miles in a newish
> (7,000 miles) Chrysler Town & Country people carrier fitted with a 3.8L
> V6 petrol engine and 6 speed autobox.
>
> Although it's difficult to compare like for like (as the US roads are so
> different from the twisting A roads and lanes around here) it didn't
> seem as quick as my regular 2.0TDi Touran with DSG. Kickdown in the
> Chrysler resulted in a lot of V6 noise but not much acceleration,
> whereas the Touran is a lot more responsive on kickdown for joining a
> motorway or overtaking.
>
> As for economy, even at US petrol prices - gulp.
>
> Back to the original question. IMO any HDi Pug/Citroen will be nicer
> than the 1.6/1.8 petrol, the VW group TDi engines seem far more drivable
> than the 1.6/2.0 engines. Not driven a VW 1.4T petrol engine for
> comparison.
The T&C you drove had a decidedly outdated engine. Had you driven one
with the more modern 4.0L petrol V6, the difference in power would've
been noticeable. Your also comparing turbo diesels to normally aspirated
petrol engines. Also since fuel is taxed a bit more sanely in the
states, most cars here have considerably larger engines that those found
across the pond. The average family sedan here will have well over 200
HP and have a displacement of 2.5L on the low side to about 3.5L, this
gets generally gets you more torque than what you find in the average
petrol-powered family car in Europe.
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TOPIC: COASTAL GAMES
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TOPIC: Whooping Cough vs Pesticide Programs.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 9:50 am
From: Cindy Hamilton
On Sep 22, 4:33 pm, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
> Whooping Cough vs Pesticide Programs. California Counties 2010 by Jim Westhttp://harpub.co.cc/whoop/
>
> All zero incidence counties have no mandated pesticide spray programs for
> moths, etc. Therefore three redefinitions can be postulated: 1) Pertussis
> is a seasonal pesticide disease, although it possibly could occur (even
> off-season) due to indoor air pollution (stove exhaust, etc), or other
> sources. 2) Pertussis is not germ caused. 3)The pertussis paradigm is
> misinfo to generally confuse pesticide and other pollution diagnostics and
> to exploit the resulting confusion and disorders. Pertussis is a
> respiratory disease and its symptoms are the body's attempts to avoid
> breathing polluted air, and the body's attempts to alert the community.
Did you just land here from some other planet? Pertussis is caused
by the bacterium Bordatella pertussis.
It's time to put your tinfoil hat on.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 2:04 pm
From: Bob Officer
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:50:08 -0700 (PDT), in misc.kids.health, Cindy
Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sep 22, 4:33 pm, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
>> Whooping Cough vs Pesticide Programs. California Counties 2010 by Jim Westhttp://harpub.co.cc/whoop/
>>
>> All zero incidence counties have no mandated pesticide spray programs for
>> moths, etc. Therefore three redefinitions can be postulated: 1) Pertussis
>> is a seasonal pesticide disease, although it possibly could occur (even
>> off-season) due to indoor air pollution (stove exhaust, etc), or other
>> sources. 2) Pertussis is not germ caused. 3)The pertussis paradigm is
>> misinfo to generally confuse pesticide and other pollution diagnostics and
>> to exploit the resulting confusion and disorders. Pertussis is a
>> respiratory disease and its symptoms are the body's attempts to avoid
>> breathing polluted air, and the body's attempts to alert the community.
>
>Did you just land here from some other planet? Pertussis is caused
>by the bacterium Bordatella pertussis.
>
>It's time to put your tinfoil hat on.
You talking to John Scudmore of Scopie's Law fame.
He is one of the world dumbest pig farmers.
--
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TOPIC: The 11th Commandment
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Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 10:45 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
http://www.the-ten-commandments.org/the-ten-commandments.html
I tend to forget the 10 Commandments, perhaps because they are COMMON
SENSE (thou shalt not steal) or PLAIN STUPID (thou shalt not covet thy
neighbor's donkey). The last one can be rearranged though to read
"Thou shalt not cover your neighbor's SUV or house" to really make
sense, but to envy your neighbor is the engine of capitalism.
Anyway here's the 11th Commandment:
"You can do whatever the fuck you want so long as you don't hurt
anyone."
This single Commandment is to be printed, circulated and drilled into
the brain of every single Christian out there. Notice that under this
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TOPIC: Bed Bugs got you uptight at night?
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Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 11:50 am
From: mike
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TOPIC: Ed Dolan the Great and the denizens of Usenet
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Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 12:04 pm
From: JimmyMac
On Sep 22, 8:44 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cadb58d4-9481-473e-8a2c-ce5a154ce217@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> [...]> Suspect all you want. Have you so little class than to stoop this
>
> low? Actually my father was half Irish (father) and half Polish
> (mother). What is dumb is that you continue to associate ethnicity
> with intelligence. A bastard and a son of a bitch I am not and saying
> so does not make it so. Iif there is a bith in all this, it is you.
> I've run into your kind before ... courageous behind the keyboard, I
> would love to have a one on one with you one day and challenge you to
> repeat your insults face to face. I know you haven't the testicular
> fortitude to do so and if you did, you'd learn a hard lesson in short
> order. For the time being. I'm done wasting my time on you cretin.
> I've better things to do, so Ed... GO FUCK YOURSELF !!!
>
> Fuck you too Asshole!
Snappy comeback ... FAGGOT!!!
> > > > Regards,
>
> > > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > > aka
> > > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 2:34 pm
From: Tom Sherman °_°
On 9/23/2010 2:04 PM, JimmyMac aka Jim McNamara wrote:
> On Sep 22, 8:44 pm, "Edward Dolan"<edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> "JimmyMac"<jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:cadb58d4-9481-473e-8a2c-ce5a154ce217@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>> [...]> Suspect all you want. Have you so little class than to stoop this
>>
>> low? Actually my father was half Irish (father) and half Polish
>> (mother). What is dumb is that you continue to associate ethnicity
>> with intelligence. A bastard and a son of a bitch I am not and saying
>> so does not make it so. Iif there is a bith in all this, it is you.
>> I've run into your kind before ... courageous behind the keyboard, I
>> would love to have a one on one with you one day and challenge you to
>> repeat your insults face to face. I know you haven't the testicular
>> fortitude to do so and if you did, you'd learn a hard lesson in short
>> order. For the time being. I'm done wasting my time on you cretin.
>> I've better things to do, so Ed... GO FUCK YOURSELF !!!
>>
>> Fuck you too Asshole!
>
> Snappy comeback ... FAGGOT!!!
>
Mr. Ed the Grate is a bundle of sticks?
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
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TOPIC: CommonCents: Anyone using it?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 12:25 pm
From: me@privacy.net
Just curious if any users here and how its going?
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 1:17 pm
From: Patricia Martin Steward
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:25:25 -0500, me@privacy.net wrote:
>Just curious if any users here and how its going?
Looks like a worthwhile organization for kids:
--
We are becoming a country that believes the rich have earned their money but the well educated have not
earned their intellectual superiority. This leads to a nation that idolizes Kardashians.
Joel Stein, TIME, 8/23/10
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 23 2010 5:09 pm
From: Derald
Patricia Martin Steward <patstew@noteranews.com> wrote:
>the well educated have not
>earned their intellectual superiority. This leads to a nation that idolizes Kardashians.
Silly specious twit. The fallacy is the presumption that
education confers intellectual superiority. I would direct your
attention to Dr. Thomas Sowell's observations on the subject of
intellectual "superiority" and what it has brought us to thus far.
What mr Stein expresses, purely and simply, is elitist "college boy"
snobbery of the first order. We _always_ have been a nation that
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change that any more than it will create a nation of Mozart-lovers.
--
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