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TOPIC: Fashion Footwear Industrial Co.,Ltd(Fujian,CHINA),www.shopbb.com
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/152bfb48166db2ab?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 1:49 am
From: "shopbb.com"
Dear my friend
It is our pleasure to meet you here.
we are wholesaler sport shoes,clothing,electrons in Fujian of China.
our website: http://www.shopbb.com
We are professional and honest wholesaler of all kinds of brand
sneaks and apparel.the products
our company supply are as follows:
1).Nike Jordans
Jordan 1 jordan 1.5 jordan 2 jordan 3 jordan 3.5 jordan 4 jordan 5
jordan 5.5 jordan 6 jordan 6.5 jordan 7 jordan 8 jordan 9 jordan 9.5
jordan 10 jordan 11 jordan 12 jordan 13 jordan 13.5 jordan 14 jordan
15 jordan 16 jordan 17 jordan 18 jordan 18.5 jordan 19 jordan 20
jordan 21 jordan 21.5 jordan 22 jordan King jordan Dub Zero Jordan 23
Jordan 7.5
2).Air Force One Air Force one (low) Air Force one (High) Air Force
one (Mid) Air Force one (clear) Air Force One 25 year
3).SHOX Shox R3 Shox R4 Shox R5 Shox TL1 Shox TL2 Shox TL3 Shox NZ
Shox OZ Shox Turbo Show GO Shox CL Shox Coqnescenti Shox Energia Shox
Explodine Shox Monster Shox Rhythmic Shox Warrior
4).Bape Shoes Bape Bape (transparent)
5).Air max AirMax 90 AirMax 95 AirMax 97 AirMax 2003 AirMax 2004
AirMax 2005 Air Max 2006 AirMax 180 AirMax LTD AirMax TN AirMax solas
AirMax 87 AirMax Rift
6).Puma Puma Rpt2 Puma SK6 Puma Jayfi Puma Cir Puma Speed Puma Repli
Puma Future Cat Puma Mostro Puma Lifestyle
7).Dunk SB Dunk High Dunk Low
8).Timberland Timberland High Timberland Low
9).Adidas Adidas 35 Adicolor Country city sense Adidas NBA
11).Prada & Gucci Prada Gucci
12).Footballer Shoes Footballer
13).Locaste
14).converse & Reebok converse Reebok
15).D&G shoes
16).Dsquared2 shoes
17).James shoes
18).Nike King
9).Children shoes Jordan Shox
20).Women shoes Women Jordans Women Shox R3 Women Shox R4 Women AirMax
95&97 Women AirMax 03&06 Women Dunk Women Shox NZ Women AF1
21).sandal & baboosh Nike Puma Gucci Prada
CLOTHES 1).Bape 2).ED Hardy 3).BBC 4).CLH 5).LRG 6).Artful Dodger
Hoodies 7).GINO GREEN GLOBAL 8).10 Deep 9).A&F Coat 11).Jersey NBA
Jersey Football Jersey 12).Juicy Bikini 13).Adidas Coat 14).F1 Coat
15).D&G Coat 16).Superman Coat 17).NBA Coat
JEAN 1).E&D Jeans 2).BBC Jeans 3).BAPE Jeans 4).D&G Jeans 5).EVSIU
Jeans 6).Red monkey 7).COOGI Jeans
T-shirt 1).POLO 2007 polo(women) 2007 POLO IIII(Men) POLO (stripe)
polo (small )
2).Lacoste Lacoste (LONG) Lacoste (SHORT) 3).Name Brand shirt D&G
Shirt Giorgio Armani TN Shirt 4).BBC T-shirt 5).LRG & gina green
glalal 6).Triumvir 7).ED handy 8).Evsiu 9).R.M.B 10).CLOT
Burse & Handbag 1).LV Bag 2).Gucci Bag 3).Dior Bag 4).Chanel Bag
5).Fendi Bag 6).Coach Bag 7).Burberrys Bag 8).Prada Bag 9).Man Leisure
Bag 11).D&G bag 12).nike bag 13).Wallet 14).Suitcase
Electronics 1).Vertu Mobile 2).New iphone Mobile 3).Nokia Mobile
4).moto Mobile 5).PSP Game & memory card 6).Sony Mobile 7).Samsung
Mobile 8).Ipod nano 9).Sony PS3 10).Laptops IBM laptops DELL laptops
Sony laptops ASUS laptops
CAP 1).ED Hardy Cap 2).New Bape & NY Cap 3).RMC Cap 4).New era NBA
5).F1 6).Chanel 7).D&G 8).gucci 9).LV 10).Prada 11).PUMA 12).wool
WATCH 1).Rolex 2).Omega 3).Cartier 4).Chanel 5).Piaget 6).Breitling
7).Bvlgari 8).Corum
Sunglasses 1).Gucci Sunglasses 2).D&G Sunglasses 3).Dior Sunglasses
4).LV Sunglasses 5).Chanel Sunglasses 6).Prada Sunglasses 7).Versace
Sunglasses 8).Giorgio Armani
Strap 1).Bape Strap 2).D&G Strap 3).Gucci Strap 4).LV Strap 5).Scarf
Other 1).Lighter
size chart
Men Size:
US: 7 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 13 14 15
UK: 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 12 13 14
EUR: 40 41 42 42.5 43 44 44.5 45 45.5 46 47.5 48 49
Women Size:
US: 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5
UK: 2.5 3 3.5 4 4.5 5 5.5 6
EUR: 35.5 36 36.5 37.5 38 38.5 39 40
Kid's
US: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5 13 13.5
UK: 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5
EUR:17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 24.5 25 25.5 26 26.5 27 27.5 28 29 30 30.5
31
Clothing Size:
S M L XL XXL XXXL XXXXL XXXXXL
7.because the space of the website is limited,we can also supply many
other products which be not showed out in our site. if you have the
photos of the products you need , we are pleasure to supply for your
orders.
And our company can supply for our customers ,as follow:
1. top quality.all our products have top quality.
2. most rational price. we offer the most competitive price to you to
open your market. So today most of our products have sold well in the
America, Europe, Middle East, Southeast Asia etc..
3. safe and fast shipment. As different country you are in, we will
deliver the products to you by different ways and pledge to arrive to
your address 100%.and we will send the products to you within 24h
after we get your payment.
4.many products in stock. We have many products in stock and kinds of
size you need , also include kid's.
5.our credit. If the products can be not delivered to your address as
our reason, we will refund the money you paid.
Hope sincerely to have glad and long term business relationship with
you.
If you are interested in our products and have any problem, welcome
to
contact us.
Please trust us , we will be your best choice !!!
Website : http://www.shopbb.com
MSN and E-mail: shopbb@hotmail.com
Yahoo ID:mallinchina@yahoo.com.cn
Michael
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 11:22 am
From: "shopbb.com"
Dear my friend
It is our pleasure to meet you here.
we are wholesaler sport shoes,clothing,electrons in Fujian of China.
our website: http://www.shopbb.com
We are professional and honest wholesaler of all kinds of brand
sneaks and apparel.the products
our company supply are as follows:
1).Nike Jordans
Jordan 1 jordan 1.5 jordan 2 jordan 3 jordan 3.5 jordan 4 jordan 5
jordan 5.5 jordan 6 jordan 6.5 jordan 7 jordan 8 jordan 9 jordan 9.5
jordan 10 jordan 11 jordan 12 jordan 13 jordan 13.5 jordan 14 jordan
15 jordan 16 jordan 17 jordan 18 jordan 18.5 jordan 19 jordan 20
jordan 21 jordan 21.5 jordan 22 jordan King jordan Dub Zero Jordan 23
Jordan 7.5
2).Air Force One Air Force one (low) Air Force one (High) Air Force
one (Mid) Air Force one (clear) Air Force One 25 year
3).SHOX Shox R3 Shox R4 Shox R5 Shox TL1 Shox TL2 Shox TL3 Shox NZ
Shox OZ Shox Turbo Show GO Shox CL Shox Coqnescenti Shox Energia Shox
Explodine Shox Monster Shox Rhythmic Shox Warrior
4).Bape Shoes Bape Bape (transparent)
5).Air max AirMax 90 AirMax 95 AirMax 97 AirMax 2003 AirMax 2004
AirMax 2005 Air Max 2006 AirMax 180 AirMax LTD AirMax TN AirMax solas
AirMax 87 AirMax Rift
6).Puma Puma Rpt2 Puma SK6 Puma Jayfi Puma Cir Puma Speed Puma Repli
Puma Future Cat Puma Mostro Puma Lifestyle
7).Dunk SB Dunk High Dunk Low
8).Timberland Timberland High Timberland Low
9).Adidas Adidas 35 Adicolor Country city sense Adidas NBA
11).Prada & Gucci Prada Gucci
12).Footballer Shoes Footballer
13).Locaste
14).converse & Reebok converse Reebok
15).D&G shoes
16).Dsquared2 shoes
17).James shoes
18).Nike King
9).Children shoes Jordan Shox
20).Women shoes Women Jordans Women Shox R3 Women Shox R4 Women AirMax
95&97 Women AirMax 03&06 Women Dunk Women Shox NZ Women AF1
21).sandal & baboosh Nike Puma Gucci Prada
CLOTHES 1).Bape 2).ED Hardy 3).BBC 4).CLH 5).LRG 6).Artful Dodger
Hoodies 7).GINO GREEN GLOBAL 8).10 Deep 9).A&F Coat 11).Jersey NBA
Jersey Football Jersey 12).Juicy Bikini 13).Adidas Coat 14).F1 Coat
15).D&G Coat 16).Superman Coat 17).NBA Coat
JEAN 1).E&D Jeans 2).BBC Jeans 3).BAPE Jeans 4).D&G Jeans 5).EVSIU
Jeans 6).Red monkey 7).COOGI Jeans
T-shirt 1).POLO 2007 polo(women) 2007 POLO IIII(Men) POLO (stripe)
polo (small )
2).Lacoste Lacoste (LONG) Lacoste (SHORT) 3).Name Brand shirt D&G
Shirt Giorgio Armani TN Shirt 4).BBC T-shirt 5).LRG & gina green
glalal 6).Triumvir 7).ED handy 8).Evsiu 9).R.M.B 10).CLOT
Burse & Handbag 1).LV Bag 2).Gucci Bag 3).Dior Bag 4).Chanel Bag
5).Fendi Bag 6).Coach Bag 7).Burberrys Bag 8).Prada Bag 9).Man Leisure
Bag 11).D&G bag 12).nike bag 13).Wallet 14).Suitcase
Electronics 1).Vertu Mobile 2).New iphone Mobile 3).Nokia Mobile
4).moto Mobile 5).PSP Game & memory card 6).Sony Mobile 7).Samsung
Mobile 8).Ipod nano 9).Sony PS3 10).Laptops IBM laptops DELL laptops
Sony laptops ASUS laptops
CAP 1).ED Hardy Cap 2).New Bape & NY Cap 3).RMC Cap 4).New era NBA
5).F1 6).Chanel 7).D&G 8).gucci 9).LV 10).Prada 11).PUMA 12).wool
WATCH 1).Rolex 2).Omega 3).Cartier 4).Chanel 5).Piaget 6).Breitling
7).Bvlgari 8).Corum
Sunglasses 1).Gucci Sunglasses 2).D&G Sunglasses 3).Dior Sunglasses
4).LV Sunglasses 5).Chanel Sunglasses 6).Prada Sunglasses 7).Versace
Sunglasses 8).Giorgio Armani
Strap 1).Bape Strap 2).D&G Strap 3).Gucci Strap 4).LV Strap 5).Scarf
Other 1).Lighter
size chart
Men Size:
US: 7 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 13 14 15
UK: 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 12 13 14
EUR: 40 41 42 42.5 43 44 44.5 45 45.5 46 47.5 48 49
Women Size:
US: 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5
UK: 2.5 3 3.5 4 4.5 5 5.5 6
EUR: 35.5 36 36.5 37.5 38 38.5 39 40
Kid's
US: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5 13 13.5
UK: 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5
EUR:17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 24.5 25 25.5 26 26.5 27 27.5 28 29 30 30.5
31
Clothing Size:
S M L XL XXL XXXL XXXXL XXXXXL
7.because the space of the website is limited,we can also supply many
other products which be not showed out in our site. if you have the
photos of the products you need , we are pleasure to supply for your
orders.
And our company can supply for our customers ,as follow:
1. top quality.all our products have top quality.
2. most rational price. we offer the most competitive price to you to
open your market. So today most of our products have sold well in the
America, Europe, Middle East, Southeast Asia etc..
3. safe and fast shipment. As different country you are in, we will
deliver the products to you by different ways and pledge to arrive to
your address 100%.and we will send the products to you within 24h
after we get your payment.
4.many products in stock. We have many products in stock and kinds of
size you need , also include kid's.
5.our credit. If the products can be not delivered to your address as
our reason, we will refund the money you paid.
Hope sincerely to have glad and long term business relationship with
you.
If you are interested in our products and have any problem, welcome
to
contact us.
Please trust us , we will be your best choice !!!
Website : http://www.shopbb.com
MSN and E-mail: shopbb@hotmail.com
Yahoo ID:mallinchina@yahoo.com.cn
Michael
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TOPIC: lovely bags
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/05e88e856c9925bd?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 1:57 am
From: sxlyy524@hotmail.com
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 2:03 am
From: sxlyy523@hotmail.com
Louis Vuitton, Fendi SPY Bags, Fendi B bag, Chloe Paddington bags,
Chloe Silverado bags, Chloe Edith Bag, Balenciaga, Goyard, miumiu,
mulberry, prada, Marc Jacobs, Gucci 85th, Dior Gaucho, Jimmy choo,
Gucci, Chanel, YSL, Hermes, Loewe, Versace, Mqueen, Thomaswylde ,
We accept Paypal
MSN: ebaynt@gmail.com
luggages Bottega loewe chloe Fendi LV Gucci Versace YSL
Thomaswylde Mqueen
Belt | Necklace | Finger Ring | Key Ring & Phone Strap | SCARF Fendi
watches | Dior watches | Armani watches | Burberry watches | LV
watches | Bottega Veneta Bag | goyard | Loewe bag | MiuMiu Prada
BALENCIAGA HANDBAGS Twiggy Duffle | 34cm | 45cm | 51cm | 38cm |
Kooba | Mulberry | Fendi B Bag | Fendi | FendiSpy | GUCCI
HANDBAGS 85th Anniversary | Gucci "Jolicoeur" Tote | NEW ARRIVAL |
Gucci Boston Bag | Gucci Hobo | Scarf Collection | Guccissima
Collection | Gucci Moon Bag | Gucci D Bag | Gucci Bag | Marc Jacobs
| Chloe Paddington Shopper | New Chloe | Chloe Paddington Color
Hardware | Chloe Paddington With Shoulder Strap | Chloe Paddington
With Silver Hardware | Chloe Doctor Bag | Chloe Betty | Chloe
Silverado | Chloe Hampton | Chloe Horse Collection | Chloe Tote With
Lock and Key | Chloe IT Edith Bag | Chloe Paddington | Suhali |
Monogram Multicolore | Monogram Denim | Damier Canvas | Monogram
Ceries | Taiga | Damier Geant | Epi | Monogram Canvas | Winter 2005 /
2006 Collection | Waltz Oskar | Antigua | Cruise Collection |
Onatah | NEW ARRIVALS | Mini | vernis | Trapeze | LV Stamped |
Perforated | HERMES HANDBAG
ostrich | 35cm Hermes Birkin Crocodile | 42cm JPG Birkins | Hermes
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TOPIC: Cost of Pierogies?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c0e499071a18aa12?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 3:49 am
From: Al Bundy
On Sep 3, 5:25 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com> wrote:
> On Sep 3, 1:39 pm, "OhioGuy" <n...@none.net> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to ask folks to do me a favor, please, and next time you're in
> > the grocery store, please look and see how much pierogies are, ok? (they are
> > in the frozen food section) Then post the price (and size) here. I'm
> > wondering if I can get a deal somewhere down here similar to what we found
> > up in Canada.
>
> The Sentry grocery store in my neigborhood has the following peirogies
> for sale:
>
> Golden Gourmet Potato & Cheese Pierogies 16.00 oz
> $0.19 $3.09
> Price/oz Price
>
> Golden Gourmet Potato & Onion Pierogies 16.00 oz
> $0.19 $3.09
> Price/oz Price
>
> Mrs. T's Mini Pierogies - Potato & Cheddar Low Fat 12.00 oz
> $0.21 $2.49
> Price/oz Price
>
> Mrs. T's Pierogies - Potato & Four Cheese 10 Count 14.10 oz
> $0.18 $2.49
> Price/oz Price
>
> Mrs. T's Pierogies - Potato & Onion Low Fat, 12 Count 16.90 oz
> $0.14 $2.33
> Price/oz Price
>
> --
> Ron
Far too upscale for OG.
He's looking for something more like .04/oz like he says he found in
Canada. Every Saturday they take the $500 van to the local park for a
picnic to relive the moment.
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TOPIC: Visit my City!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9257ee9790ca15e8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 3:56 am
From: dianna
HELLO,
im dianna, from malaysia. may i know more about your city. im very
interested to know it.
thank you
diana
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TOPIC: Picture of Most Expensive car in the world
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 4:09 am
From: bosad87
The car is built by Volkswagen AG subsidiary Bugatti Automobiles SAS
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French Bugatti marque...
http://9bignews.googlepages.com/most_expensive_cars
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TOPIC: coogi sweater wholesale(WWW.SELLCHINANIKE.COM)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/092fde1ebe95b429?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 5:33 am
From: PaPaPeng
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:46:29 -0400, Bernardo Gui
<waile2155@mypacks.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:21:58 -0700, val189 <gwehrenb@bellsouth.net>
>wrote:
>
>>We passed up three nonessential items at Home Depot today, all being
>>made in China and the better half is on a personal boycott. Not even a
>>drop in the ocean, but made him feel better. Appealed to my frugal
>>bone too.
>
>Be careful. PaPaPeng is watching you. The defender of all corrupted
>Chinese products will not take kindly to your boycott.
Fame at last.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 6:12 am
From: PaPaPeng
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:33:41 GMT, PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:46:29 -0400, Bernardo Gui
><waile2155@mypacks.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:21:58 -0700, val189 <gwehrenb@bellsouth.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>We passed up three nonessential items at Home Depot today, all being
>>>made in China and the better half is on a personal boycott. Not even a
>>>drop in the ocean, but made him feel better. Appealed to my frugal
>>>bone too.
>>
>>Be careful. PaPaPeng is watching you. The defender of all corrupted
>>Chinese products will not take kindly to your boycott.
>
>
>Fame at last.
A timely article on the things to come. Soon you won't ba able to
afford anything except Chinese crap.
Western grasshoppers and Chinese ants
By Spengler
Sep 5, 2007
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/II05Dj01.html
A major theme is missing from the central bankers' annual retreat at
Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Everyone is talking about collapse of the US
home-price bubble and the danger of recession, but no one is talking
about the suckers who financed the bubble, namely the savers of Asia.
Asia will do so no longer. If the United States wants Asian investors
to continue to take risk on its shores, it will have to allow them to
buy solid US companies, rather than the sort of debt derivatives that
blew up this summer.
One exceptional fact accounts for the instability in financial markets
during recent weeks: the Chinese and many other Asians save about half
their income, while Americans save none of their income at all.
Foreigners, mainly Asians, invest US$1 trillion a year in the United
States, because their home economies cannot absorb so much investment,
or because the political risk attached to local investments is too
great.
In the present iteration of Aesop's fable, American consumers are the
grasshoppers and Chinese (and other Asian) savers are the ants. The
trouble is that Asians have put their savings into the balance sheet
of US consumers.
Outside the US, it seems incomprehensible that the average family
would save nothing for retirement or against a rainy day. But God
takes care of drunks, small children and the United States of America.
In other words, the typical American family expected the value of its
house to keep appreciating at nearly 10% a year indefinitely,
eventually turning into a retirement fund. US home prices appreciated
by 86% between 1996 and 2006; like the Cargo Cults that proliferated
in New Guinea after World War II, Americans seemed to think that this
would go on forever.
Delusional expectations about home prices justified a trillion dollars
of loans to borrowers with poor credit or inadequate income
("subprime" loans), and that is the proximate cause of the bubble.
World markets have swooned in response to what the media call a credit
crunch - the reluctance of investors to accept the Frankenstein
monsters of financial engineering. In the case of US mortgages of poor
credit quality ("subprime"), derivatives technology sought to make a
silk purse out of a sow's ear, but it is a purse that still goes
"oink" when opened. This has produced consternation across Asia, where
many financial institutions invested heavily in obscure and complex
instruments that cannot be sold today except at a severe loss.
When the world throws money at a national economy, large or small,
credit is easy and stupid investments are made. America's
subprime-mortgage problem uncannily resembles the Asian financial
crisis of 1997. Ten years ago, investors couldn't put enough money
into high-yielding investments in Thailand, Malaysia, South Korea and
so forth, and financed an enormous real-estate bubble. When the bubble
popped in the spring of 1997, Asian stock markets and currencies
crashed. Asians have not forgotten the pious lectures about profligacy
they suffered from the West just 10 years ago.
Many of the economists who offered opinions at Jackson Hole warned
that the bursting of the home-price bubble might lead to a severe
recession. If the rout on financial markets turns into economic
distress, Western governments will have no one but themselves, and
nothing but their own hypocrisy, to blame. After instructing China for
years on the benefits of free markets, Washington, Brussels and other
Western governments have imposed the strictest sort of mercantilist
barriers upon the free movement of capital.
It seems obvious to ask why Asians should have bought exotic debt
instruments, rather than buy brick, mortar and machinery in the United
States and Europe. The answer is that the US and European governments
will not allow them to do so. The specter haunting Western financial
markets is not proletarian revolution, but the sovereign funds of
China, Singapore, the Persian Gulf states and others, ready to invest
hundreds of billions of dollars a year. But the West does not want to
allow Asians to control major companies. The Chinese have told the US
government that they will buy virtually any large US firm that the
government allows them to - but the US government fears the political
fallout.
Of course, one feels sorry for autoworkers in the US state of
Michigan, who earn $30 per hour and expected to do so in perpetuity.
Sadly for them, workers earning a tenth of that amount can assemble
cars just as well. If I were a sovereign investment fund, I would buy
Ford Motor Co, shut down all of its production facilities in the US,
and keep the nameplate as an emerging-markets and European brand. But
that sort of rationalization is precisely what any US government will
try to prevent.
The excuse Washington and Brussels offer for ring-fencing their
companies against Asian investors is that the prospective purchasers
are sovereign funds, that is, agencies of the state, rather than
private individuals. With the poor development of Chinese and other
Asian capital governments, the state becomes the only entity capable
of supporting national savings. Singapore created the model for this
in its admirable pension program. China has no real pension program,
but its more than $1 trillion of foreign-exchange reserves constitutes
the rainy-day savings of the Chinese people. The Chinese authorities
have begun to permit Chinese citizens to buy foreign securities, but
for the moment the savings of the Chinese people are held in large
measure by the government.
Why have Americans tolerated China's penetration of its market for
manufactured goods, at the expense of US manufacturing employment?
Part of the answer, of course, lies in the fact that Americans are
able to buy much cheaper goods. But a more important part of the
answer, perhaps, is that China's reinvestment of its export earnings
in US debt instruments forced down the cost of capital in the United
States, as Federal Reserve Board chairman Benjamin Bernanke has
observed over the years. Cheap capital fueled an asset-price bubble in
the US, generating capital gains for US households that made savings
seem unnecessary.
If, as some of the voices from Jackson Hole predict, US employment
falls as a result, protectionist measures against Chinese exports
become quite probable. Cheap Chinese goods at Wal-Mart and cheap loans
from the banks make a convincing case for free markets only when one
has a job, and a house; if enough people lose their jobs and their
homes, their first instinct will be to blame the Chinese. Democratic
presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has already embraced
protectionism against China, an ominous sign.
China may have to shift economic gears in a hurry, spending more on
its internal market and infrastructure, using if need be some of the
foreign-exchange reserves accumulated during the past several years.
It will have to seek markets outside the United States, especially in
the emerging world. The transition may be painful in the short run for
China, but I do not expect the Chinese economy to collapse even if the
US throws up protectionist barriers against Chinese imports. China
already has moved most of its young people out of the countryside into
the cities, and there are reports of a shortage of young workers in
Chinese cities.
Americans will have to work harder and save more. If the US wants to
remain the magnet for world capital flows it became during the 1990s,
it will have to allow the savers of the world to become partners in
the US economy, that is, to buy into its first-rank companies. This is
not a matter of US discretion; at some point, the United States will
have no choice but to allow more foreign ownership. If Washington
delays the inevitable, the price of US companies will fall, and
Chinese and other sovereign investors will buy them cheaper.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 6:15 am
From: Bernardo Gui
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:33:41 GMT, PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:46:29 -0400, Bernardo Gui
><waile2155@mypacks.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:21:58 -0700, val189 <gwehrenb@bellsouth.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>We passed up three nonessential items at Home Depot today, all being
>>>made in China and the better half is on a personal boycott. Not even a
>>>drop in the ocean, but made him feel better. Appealed to my frugal
>>>bone too.
>>
>>Be careful. PaPaPeng is watching you. The defender of all corrupted
>>Chinese products will not take kindly to your boycott.
>
>
>Fame at last.
Well, in today's world, notoriety is just as good.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 11:36 am
From: "wlloow"
PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:33:41 GMT, PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:46:29 -0400, Bernardo Gui
>> <waile2155@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:21:58 -0700, val189 <gwehrenb@bellsouth.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We passed up three nonessential items at Home Depot today, all
>>>> being made in China and the better half is on a personal boycott.
>>>> Not even a drop in the ocean, but made him feel better. Appealed
>>>> to my frugal bone too.
>>>
>>> Be careful. PaPaPeng is watching you. The defender of all corrupted
>>> Chinese products will not take kindly to your boycott.
>>
>>
>> Fame at last.
>
> A timely article on the things to come. Soon you won't ba able to
> afford anything except Chinese crap.
Fantasy.
> Western grasshoppers and Chinese ants
> By Spengler
> Sep 5, 2007
> http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/II05Dj01.html
> A major theme is missing from the central bankers' annual retreat at
> Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Everyone is talking about collapse of the US
> home-price bubble and the danger of recession, but no one is talking
> about the suckers who financed the bubble, namely the savers of Asia.
Because they have no real alternative available to them.
> Asia will do so no longer.
Fantasy. They will do so for the same reason they have up till now, they have no alternative.
> If the United States wants Asian investors to continue to take risk
> on its shores, it will have to allow them to buy solid US companies,
Made no difference when the Japs started to do that for a while.
> rather than the sort of debt derivatives that blew up this summer.
They arent forced to buy those.
> One exceptional fact accounts for the instability in financial markets
> during recent weeks: the Chinese and many other Asians save about
> half their income, while Americans save none of their income at all.
That last is a mindless lie. Those who claim that arent counting house
purchase or the tax favoured savings.
> Foreigners, mainly Asians, invest US$1 trillion a year in the United States,
> because their home economies cannot absorb so much investment,
Thats not the reason. The real reason is the pathetic interest
rate paid in their country, most obviously with the Japs.
> or because the political risk attached to local investments is too great.
Mindlessly silly with china.
> In the present iteration of Aesop's fable, American consumers are
> the grasshoppers and Chinese (and other Asian) savers are the ants.
Typical mindless journalistic crap.
> The trouble is that Asians have put their savings
> into the balance sheet of US consumers.
Nope.
> Outside the US, it seems incomprehensible that the average
> family would save nothing for retirement or against a rainy day.
Doesnt happen in the US, where the savings in the family home leaves that in asia for dead.
> But God takes care of drunks, small children and the United States
> of America. In other words, the typical American family expected the
> value of its house to keep appreciating at nearly 10% a year indefinitely,
> eventually turning into a retirement fund.
Doesnt need to appreciate at that rate to be real savings.
> US home prices appreciated by 86% between 1996 and 2006;
So everyone except the stupid renters have real savings, in spite of the mindless claim above.
> like the Cargo Cults that proliferated in New Guinea after World
> War II, Americans seemed to think that this would go on forever.
It does go on forever in modern first world countrys, the rate just varies.
> Delusional expectations about home prices justified a trillion dollars
> of loans to borrowers with poor credit or inadequate income
> ("subprime" loans), and that is the proximate cause of the bubble.
Different matter entirely. The vast bulk of the loans arent sub prime.
<none of the rest of this even more mindless crap worth bothering with>
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From: Pennyaline
Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1188476260.106588.226530@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Who here eat home aged beef without stomach distress? Google resulted
>> in articles on how to and other articles on why not to.
>>
>> Anyone here ever got sick eating home aged beef?
>
> Not if it is done right.
>
>> Is the meat that's turned color on the grocer's shelf actually more
>> tender and have better flavor?
>
> The key us dryness. Some decomposition is going on but the dryness keeps
> that to a minimum. You are removing excess moisture and allowing the meat
> to partially break down its connective fibers. Roting and aging are two
> different things. Dry aged beef is more purple, rotten meat is brown.
Dry aged beef still smells like meat. Rotten meat smells foul and
obviously spoiled.
I grew up on "hung" beef (be quiet Sheldon!). My great-uncle, a butcher
in Jersey City, was proud of his ability to obtain and prepare the best
meats available. The minute he knew company was coming for dinner, he
would cut and hang fine steaks in anticipation. There is no taste equal
to that of a well-aged steak.
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TOPIC: Twelve Proofs that Muhammad is a True Prophet
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Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 9:09 am
From: ahmedcoco333@hotmail.com
My brothers and sisters everywhere! With this essay, I am not singling
out the adherents of Islam - to which I ascribe - but rather I am
writing this essay to every man and woman throughout the whole world.
I ask Allah that He facilitates tat this essay reaches every ear,
falls under the sight of every eye, and is understood by every
heart...
Muhammad the son of `Abdullah is Allah's Prophet and the Final
Messenger Sent by Allah to the Inhabitants of Earth.
My brothers and sisters everywhere! You should know that the
Messenger, Muhammad the son of `Abdullah (may Allah's blessings and
peace be upon him) is Allah's Messenger in reality and truth. The
evidences that show his veracity are abundant. None but an infidel,
who out of arrogance alone, could deny these signs.
Among these proofs:
1. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) was raised
illiterate, unable to read or write, and remained like that till his
death. Among all his people, he was known as being truthful and
trustworthy. Before receiving revelation, he had no prior knowledge of
Religion or any previously sent Message. He remained like that for his
first forty years. Revelation then came to Muhammad with the Koran
that we now have between our hands. This Koran mentioned most of the
accounts found in the previous scriptures, telling us about these
events in the greatest detail as if he witnessed them. These accounts
came precisely as they were found in the Torah sent down to Moses and
in the Gospel sent down to Jesus. Neither the Jews or Christians were
able to belie him regarding anything that he said.
2. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) also
foretold of everything that would occur to him and his community after
him, pertaining to victory, the removal of the tyrannical kingdoms of
Chosroes [the royal title for the Zoroastrian kings of Persia] and
Caesar, and the establishment of the religion of Islam throughout the
earth. These events occurred exactly as Muhammad foretold, as if he
was reading the future from an open book.
3. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) also brought
an Arabic Koran that is the peak of eloquence and clarity. The Koran
challenged those eloquent and fluent Arabs of his time, who initially
belied him, to bring forth a single chapter like the Koran. The
eloquent Arabs of his day were unable to contest this Koran.
Indeed, till our day, none has ever dared to claim that he has been
able to compose words that equal-or even approach-the order, grace,
beauty, and splendor of this Glorious Koran.
4. The life history of this Noble Prophet was a perfect example of
being upright, merciful, compassionate, truthful, brave, generous,
distant from all evil character, and ascetic in all worldly matters,
while striving solely for the reward of the Hereafter. Moreover, in
all his actions and dealings, he was ever mindful and fearful of
Allah.
5. Allah instilled great love for Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and
peace be upon him) in the hearts of all who believed in and met him.
This love reached such a degree that any of his companions would
willingly sacrifice his (or her) self, mother or father for him.
Till today, those who believe in Muhammad honor and love him. Anyone
of those who believe in him would ransom his own family and wealth to
see him, even if but once.
6. All of history has not preserved the biography of any person in the
manner it has preserved the life of Muhammad, who is the most
influential human in history.
Nor has the entire earth known of anyone whom every morning and
evening, and many times thereafter throughout the day, is thought of
by those who believe in him. Upon remembering Muhammad, the believers
in him will greet him and ask Allah to bless him. They do such with
full hearts and true love for him.
7. Nor has there every been a man on earth whom is still followed in
all his doings by those who believe in him.
Those who believe in Muhammad, sleep in the manner he slept; purify
themselves (through ablution and ritual washing) in the manner he
purified himself; and adhere to his practice in the way they eat,
drink, and clothe themselves.
Indeed in all aspects of their lives, the believers in Muhammad adhere
to the teachings he spread among them and the path that he traveled
upon during his life.
During every generation, from his day till our time, the believers in
this Noble Prophet have fully adhered to his teachings. With some,
this has reached the degree that they desire to follow and adhere to
the Prophet's way in his personal matters regarding which Allah has
not sought of them to adhere to in worship. For example, some will
only eat those specific foods or only wear those specific garments
that the Messenger liked.
Let alone all that, all those who believe in Muhammad repeat those
praises of Allah, special prayers, and invocations that he would say
during each of his actions during day and night, like: what he would
say when he greeted people, upon entering and leaving the house,
entering and leaving the mosque, entering and leaving the bathroom,
going to sleep and awaking from sleep, observing the new crescent,
observing the new fruit on trees, eating, drinking, dressing, riding,
traveling and returning from travel, etc.
Let alone all that, all those who believe in Muhammad fully perform-
even to the minute detail-every act of worship-like prayer, fasting,
charity, and pilgrimage-as this Noble Messenger (may Allah's blessings
and peace be upon him) taught and as he himself performed.
All of this allows those who believe in him, to live their lives in
all aspects with this Noble Messenger as their example, as if he was
standing before them, for them to follow in all their doings.
8. There has never been nor will there ever be a man anywhere upon
this earth who has received such love, respect, honor, and obedience
in all matters-small and large alike-as has this Noble Prophet.
9. Since his day, in every region of the earth and during every
period, this Noble Prophet has been followed by individuals from all
races, colors and peoples. Many of those who followed him were
previously Christians, Jews, pagans, idolaters, or without any
religion. Among those who chose to follow him, were those who were
known for their sound judgment, wisdom, reflection, and foresight.
They chose to follow this Noble Prophet after they witnessed the signs
of his truthfulness and the evidences of his miracles. They did not
choose to follow Muhammad out of compulsion or coercion or because
they had adopted the ways of their fathers and mothers.
Indeed many of the followers of this Prophet (may Allah's blessings
peace be upon him), chose to follow him during the time when Islam was
weak, when there were few Muslims, and when there was severe
persecution of his followers on earth. Most people who have followed
this Prophet (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) have done
so not to acquire some material benefits. Indeed many of his followers
have suffered the greatest forms of harm and persecution as a result
of following this Prophet. Despite all this harm and persecution, this
did not turn them back from his religion.
My brethren! All of this clearly indicates to anyone possessing any
sense, that this Prophet was truly and really Allah's messenger and
that he was not just a man who claimed prophethood or spoke about
Allah without knowledge.
10. With all this, Muhammad came with a great religion in its credal
and legal make-up.
Muhammad described Allah with qualities of complete perfection, and at
the same time in a manner that is free of ascribing to Him any
imperfection. Neither the philosophers or the wise could ever describe
Allah like such. Indeed it is impossible to imagine that any human
mind could conceive of an existing being that possesses such complete
ability, knowledge, and greatness; Who has subdued the creation; Who
has encompassed everything in the universe, small or large; and Who
possesses such perfect mercy.
Nor is it in the ability of any human being to place a perfect law
based upon justice, equality, mercy and objectivity for all human
activity on earth like the laws that Muhammad brought for all spheres
of human activity - like buying and selling, marriage and divorce,
renting, testimony, custody, and all other contracts that are
necessary to uphold life and civilization on earth.
11. It is impossible that any person conceive wisdom,, morals, good
manners, nobleness of characters as what this honorable Prophet (may
Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) brought.
In a full and complete manner, Muhammad spread a teaching regarding
character and manners toward one' parents, relatives, fiends, family,
humanity, animals, plants and inanimate objects. It is impossible for
the human mind alone to grasp all of that teaching or come with a
similar teaching.
All of that unequivocally indicates that this Messenger did not bring
an) of this religion from his own accord, but that it was rather a
teaching and inspiration that he received from the One Who created the
earth and the high heavens above and created this universe in its
miraculous architecture and perfection.
12. The legal and credal make-up of the religion that the Messenger,
Muhammad, (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) brought
resembles the engineering of the heavens and the earth. All of that
indicates that He who created the heavens and the earth is the One Who
sent down this great law and upright religion.
The degree of inimitability of the Divine law that was sent down upon
Muhammad is to the same degree of inimitability of the Divine creation
of the heavens and earth. For just as humanity cannot create this
universe, in the same manner humanity cannot bring forth a law like
Allah's law that He sent down upon His servant and messenger Muhammad
(may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him).
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 10:24 am
From: "Bob F"
plonk!
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 4 2007 10:42 am
From: "ChairMan"
In news:_6qdnXKIR9Y6CUDbnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@comcast.com,
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>spewed forth:
> plonk!
yup, you're a democrat<g>
bub-bye
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