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TOPIC: Bush STILL Pushing Increasing U.S. Population
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 11:35 am
From: "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
In article <_fKdnaM2XZX6n-zVnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@posted.localnet>,
"Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lordgow@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote in message
> news:lL2ck.99005$102.26145@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > Yer Pal Al wrote:
> >> On Jul 5, 9:21 pm, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
> >> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
> >>> In article <2EXbk.184103$fz6.66...@fe08.news.easynews.com>,
> >>> Craig R <m...@whee.ls> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Becoming something you're not [was LH] wrote:
> >>>>> In article <W5Gdndzsw4vt2e3VnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@posted.localnet>,
> >>>>> "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lord...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:W6-dnTvT1pK7aPLVnZ2dnUVZ_r7inZ2d@cablespeedwa.com...
> >>>>>>> "OrangeSFO" <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:90472b84-f3a1-47b0-911d-b1f2fe121e2b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
> >>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>> Republicans...they want more babies...but they don't want anyone to
> >>>>>>>> fuck.
> >>>>>>> Nonsense. They just don't want women to enjoy it.
> >>>>>> Completely wrong. They want all couples to be married before having
> >>>>>> sex,
> >>>>>> thereby ensuring that the MAN won't enjoy it.
> >>>>> Marriage is a sham.
> >>>> Recently divorced?
> >>> Worse. Parents stayed together until I was 18. That and the whole
> >>> problem of it being a way to control the animalistic populace.
> >>
> >> You didn't want your parents to stay together?
> >>
> >> Children in single parent families are more likely to do poorly in
> >> school, drop-out, take drugs, get involved in crime and have children
> >> out of wedlock.
> >>
> >> Did you suffer from any of these pitfalls?
> >>
> >>
> > Better a single parent with time and sanity to care about the kids,
>
> No such thing. They may mean well, don't get me wrong, but parenting is a
> two person, two GENDER job. And I don't give a damn about the politics of
> the situation, the fact is men and women bring different abilities to the
> table and children benefit from them both. Rather than saying that angry
> couples should or should not stay together "for the children", I say the
> dumb selfish bastards shouldn't have had the kid(s) to begin with.
>
Two gender job eh? So you are saying same sex couples can be the two
parents if one is masculine and the other is feminine. That lib talk
there, buddy.
--
Emm Oh Oh En. That spells RSPW.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 1:14 pm
From: aemeijers
Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback! wrote:
>
> "aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote in message
> news:lL2ck.99005$102.26145@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Yer Pal Al wrote:
(snip)
>> Better a single parent with time and sanity to care about the kids,
>
> No such thing. They may mean well, don't get me wrong, but parenting is
> a two person, two GENDER job. And I don't give a damn about the politics
> of the situation, the fact is men and women bring different abilities to
> the table and children benefit from them both. Rather than saying that
> angry couples should or should not stay together "for the children", I
> say the dumb selfish bastards shouldn't have had the kid(s) to begin with.
>
Well, you're preaching to the choir on that one- a significant
percentage of the people shacking up/marrying and having kids are not
competent to perform any of those duties. Except for the small matter of
there not being anyone competent to sit in judgment about people's skill
sets, I'd say that having kids should require a training course and
getting a license.
But reproduction, like love and lust, is by definition an irrational
process. The genes want what the genes want. And once the kids are
there, you don't get a do-over. You have to make do as best you can.
But I still say a single parent household is better than a broken
2-parent household. BTDT, from the kid side. Once they only saw each
other a few hours a month, they got along a lot better. And both of them
were able to devote quality time to us young ones. The older kids,
separated from us younger ones by several years, said it was traumatic
as hell to be going through adolescence in a battle zone.
--
aem sends...
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 8:43 pm
From: "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!"
"Becoming something you're not [was LH]" <lfkkhjssssssssssik@lhhhhggd.com>
wrote in message
news:lfkkhjssssssssssik-DC7412.14352006072008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <_fKdnaM2XZX6n-zVnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@posted.localnet>,
> "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lordgow@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:lL2ck.99005$102.26145@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> > Yer Pal Al wrote:
>> >> On Jul 5, 9:21 pm, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]"
>> >> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote:
>> >>> In article <2EXbk.184103$fz6.66...@fe08.news.easynews.com>,
>> >>> Craig R <m...@whee.ls> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Becoming something you're not [was LH] wrote:
>> >>>>> In article <W5Gdndzsw4vt2e3VnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@posted.localnet>,
>> >>>>> "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lord...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>> news:W6-dnTvT1pK7aPLVnZ2dnUVZ_r7inZ2d@cablespeedwa.com...
>> >>>>>>> "OrangeSFO" <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>> news:90472b84-f3a1-47b0-911d-b1f2fe121e2b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
>> >>>>>>> ...
>> >>>>>>>> Republicans...they want more babies...but they don't want anyone
>> >>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>> fuck.
>> >>>>>>> Nonsense. They just don't want women to enjoy it.
>> >>>>>> Completely wrong. They want all couples to be married before
>> >>>>>> having
>> >>>>>> sex,
>> >>>>>> thereby ensuring that the MAN won't enjoy it.
>> >>>>> Marriage is a sham.
>> >>>> Recently divorced?
>> >>> Worse. Parents stayed together until I was 18. That and the whole
>> >>> problem of it being a way to control the animalistic populace.
>> >>
>> >> You didn't want your parents to stay together?
>> >>
>> >> Children in single parent families are more likely to do poorly in
>> >> school, drop-out, take drugs, get involved in crime and have children
>> >> out of wedlock.
>> >>
>> >> Did you suffer from any of these pitfalls?
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Better a single parent with time and sanity to care about the kids,
>>
>> No such thing. They may mean well, don't get me wrong, but parenting is a
>> two person, two GENDER job. And I don't give a damn about the politics of
>> the situation, the fact is men and women bring different abilities to the
>> table and children benefit from them both. Rather than saying that angry
>> couples should or should not stay together "for the children", I say the
>> dumb selfish bastards shouldn't have had the kid(s) to begin with.
>>
>
>
> Two gender job eh? So you are saying same sex couples can be the two
> parents if one is masculine and the other is feminine. That lib talk
> there, buddy.
Gender is more than role playing.
LG
--
"Keep it simple. If it takes a genius to understand it, it will never work."
- Clarence Leonard "Kelly" Johnson
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 8:50 pm
From: "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!"
"aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote in message
news:WI9ck.196063$SV4.76662@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback! wrote:
>>
>> "aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:lL2ck.99005$102.26145@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> Yer Pal Al wrote:
> (snip)
>>> Better a single parent with time and sanity to care about the kids,
>>
>> No such thing. They may mean well, don't get me wrong, but parenting is a
>> two person, two GENDER job. And I don't give a damn about the politics of
>> the situation, the fact is men and women bring different abilities to the
>> table and children benefit from them both. Rather than saying that angry
>> couples should or should not stay together "for the children", I say the
>> dumb selfish bastards shouldn't have had the kid(s) to begin with.
>>
> Well, you're preaching to the choir on that one- a significant percentage
> of the people shacking up/marrying and having kids are not competent to
> perform any of those duties. Except for the small matter of there not
> being anyone competent to sit in judgment about people's skill sets, I'd
> say that having kids should require a training course and getting a
> license.
>
> But reproduction, like love and lust, is by definition an irrational
> process. The genes want what the genes want. And once the kids are there,
> you don't get a do-over. You have to make do as best you can.
>
> But I still say a single parent household is better than a broken 2-parent
> household. BTDT, from the kid side. Once they only saw each other a few
> hours a month, they got along a lot better. And both of them were able to
> devote quality time to us young ones. The older kids, separated from us
> younger ones by several years, said it was traumatic as hell to be going
> through adolescence in a battle zone.
As long as both parents get time with the kids, and avoid stabbing each
other in the back, then, yeah, I agree. If babydaddy (or momma) disappears
or is cut out tho I'd seriously wonder about it.
Regardless tho we can agree that it sucks either way and some kids would be
better off being raised by wolves ($1 to Adam Carolla).
LG (raised by two loving parents, and eternally thankful for it)
--
Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently. - Henry Ford
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 11:47 pm
From: "Irish Mike"
"aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote in message
news:WI9ck.196063$SV4.76662@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback! wrote:
>>
>> "aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:lL2ck.99005$102.26145@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> Yer Pal Al wrote:
> (snip)
>>> Better a single parent with time and sanity to care about the kids,
>>
>> No such thing. They may mean well, don't get me wrong, but parenting is a
>> two person, two GENDER job. And I don't give a damn about the politics of
>> the situation, the fact is men and women bring different abilities to the
>> table and children benefit from them both. Rather than saying that angry
>> couples should or should not stay together "for the children", I say the
>> dumb selfish bastards shouldn't have had the kid(s) to begin with.
>>
> Well, you're preaching to the choir on that one- a significant percentage
> of the people shacking up/marrying and having kids are not competent to
> perform any of those duties. Except for the small matter of there not
> being anyone competent to sit in judgment about people's skill sets, I'd
> say that having kids should require a training course and getting a
> license.
>
> But reproduction, like love and lust, is by definition an irrational
> process. The genes want what the genes want. And once the kids are there,
> you don't get a do-over. You have to make do as best you can.
>
> But I still say a single parent household is better than a broken 2-parent
> household. BTDT, from the kid side. Once they only saw each other a few
> hours a month, they got along a lot better. And both of them were able to
> devote quality time to us young ones. The older kids, separated from us
> younger ones by several years, said it was traumatic as hell to be going
> through adolescence in a battle zone.
If you're concerned about the population, why not start by kicking out
20,000,000 illegal immigrants?
Irish Mike
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 12:29 pm
From: "Tisdale"
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TOPIC: DTV Converter box major snafu in the US
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 3:07 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
In article <4870d1da$0$80800$8ebe3a62@news.megabitz.net>,
GordonD <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>In article <T--dnaTPGKPupO3VnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2>,
>gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
>>In article <48701715$0$10001$8ebe3a62@news.megabitz.net>,
>>GordonD <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>> [ ... ]
>>>Zenith picture quality and reception is far better than the other two, the
>>>Dish has the poorest reception. Picture qulity between the Magnavox and Dish
>>>is about equal.
>>What model Zenith converter box do you have?
>The Zenith box is model DTT900 purchased at Circuit City.
Regrettably, neither it or the DTT901 (adds analog pass-through) are
available at any Circuit City stores within 80 miles of me.
Target has a GE box which is getting negative reviews (on their own
web site!) and a Venturer box which is cheaper and reportedly better.
Also came across a web site I hadn't seen that has an extensive list of
coupon-eligible boxes, plus a few non-eligible ones.
Speaking of which, anyone have any experience with any of these?
Grandtec Tun-5000
PHD-205
Samsung DTBH260F
Sylvania 6900DTE
Tivax STB-T1
Winegard RC-1010
Gary
--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
"a member or members of Osama bin Ladens' Al Qaeda network, posing as
computer programmers, were able to gain employment at Microsoft..."
claim made by Mohammed Afroze Abdul Razzak to police in India, 12/01.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 8:10 pm
From: me@privacy.net (GordonD)
In article <paCdnXr6jdq43-zVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2>, gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
>In article <4870d1da$0$80800$8ebe3a62@news.megabitz.net>,
>GordonD <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>In article <T--dnaTPGKPupO3VnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2>,
>>gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
>>>In article <48701715$0$10001$8ebe3a62@news.megabitz.net>,
>>>GordonD <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>> [ ... ]
>>>>Zenith picture quality and reception is far better than the other two, the
>>>>Dish has the poorest reception. Picture qulity between the Magnavox and Dish
>
>>>>is about equal.
>
>>>What model Zenith converter box do you have?
>
>>The Zenith box is model DTT900 purchased at Circuit City.
>
>Regrettably, neither it or the DTT901 (adds analog pass-through) are
>available at any Circuit City stores within 80 miles of me.
>
>Target has a GE box which is getting negative reviews (on their own
>web site!) and a Venturer box which is cheaper and reportedly better.
>
>Also came across a web site I hadn't seen that has an extensive list of
>coupon-eligible boxes, plus a few non-eligible ones.
>
>Speaking of which, anyone have any experience with any of these?
>
> Grandtec Tun-5000
> PHD-205
> Samsung DTBH260F
> Sylvania 6900DTE
> Tivax STB-T1
> Winegard RC-1010
>
>
>Gary
>
Yes the DTT900 does not have analog passthrough but from what I've read on the
Comparison of CECB units page on Wikipedia, the DTT901 does passthrough. Could
you be mistaken?
GordonD
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 9:41 pm
From: no-spam@sonic.net (Fake ID)
In article <48701715$0$10001$8ebe3a62@news.megabitz.net>,
GordonD <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>My personal experience also bears this out. I've tried Zenith, Magnavox and
>Dish (DTVPal) boxes and both picture quality and number of stations recieved
>varies significantly. The difference is noticeable even on a 20" Sony TV. The
>Zenith picture quality and reception is far better than the other two, the
>Dish has the poorest reception. Picture qulity between the Magnavox and Dish
>is about equal.
Kinda amusing since the DTVPal was so highly anticipated it developed a
cult-like following, but the Zenith was among the first offered. From
what I understand, the Insignia sold at Best Buy is essentially the same
as the Zenith.
m
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TOPIC: Solar window coverings
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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 4:42 pm
From: Marsha
I recently read a tip about using a car windshield shade, with the
reflective silver or whatever you call it, for home windows. I tried it
and it worked wonderfully, but I had no way to attach the shade in
place except adhesive tape on the window or with clothespins attached to
the drapes. I want to get the same reflective material and make a
removable shade with either suction cups or velcro or whatever to put
over a picture window and sliding glass doors. A Google search found
motor home solar shades that attach with suction cups, but I really
would like just want the material so I can cut it to the exact needed
size. Suggestions?
Marsha/Ohio
== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 4:47 pm
From: Marsha
Marsha wrote:
> I recently read a tip about using a car windshield shade, with the
> reflective silver or whatever you call it, for home windows. I tried it
> and it worked wonderfully, but I had no way to attach the shade in
> place except adhesive tape on the window or with clothespins attached to
> the drapes. I want to get the same reflective material and make a
> removable shade with either suction cups or velcro or whatever to put
> over a picture window and sliding glass doors. A Google search found
> motor home solar shades that attach with suction cups, but I really
> would like just want the material so I can cut it to the exact needed
> size. Suggestions?
>
> Marsha/Ohio
>
Um, that should be "I really would like just the material"
== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 4:54 pm
From: jeeppintom@webtv.net (Tommy)
Radiant barrier sewn onto a roll up wind shade.
== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 5:12 pm
From: Marsha
Tommy wrote:
> Radiant barrier sewn onto a roll up wind shade.
>
We did look at roll-up window shades. The problem is that they would
interefere with the current window dressings (vertical blinds and drapes).
Marsha/Ohio
== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 7:01 pm
From: "Woolstitcher"
"Marsha" <mas@xeb.net> wrote in message news:g4rla2$fh4$2@news.datemas.de...
>I recently read a tip about using a car windshield shade, with the
>reflective silver or whatever you call it, for home windows. I tried it
>and it worked wonderfully, but I had no way to attach the shade in place
>except adhesive tape on the window or with clothespins attached to the
>drapes. I want to get the same reflective material and make a removable
>shade with either suction cups or velcro or whatever to put over a picture
>window and sliding glass doors. A Google search found motor home solar
>shades that attach with suction cups, but I really would like just want the
>material so I can cut it to the exact needed size. Suggestions?
>
> Marsha/Ohio
>
Solar blankets that are sold at WalMart can be cut and sewn (if desired,
they are fine w/ just the cut edge too). They are around $3.00 per huge
blanket.
== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 7:02 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
In article <g4rla2$fh4$2@news.datemas.de>, Marsha <mas@bex.net> wrote:
>I recently read a tip about using a car windshield shade, with the
>reflective silver or whatever you call it, for home windows. I tried it
> and it worked wonderfully, but I had no way to attach the shade in
>place except adhesive tape on the window or with clothespins attached to
>the drapes. I want to get the same reflective material and make a
>removable shade with either suction cups or velcro or whatever to put
>over a picture window and sliding glass doors. A Google search found
>motor home solar shades that attach with suction cups, but I really
>would like just want the material so I can cut it to the exact needed
>size. Suggestions?
You can come close with the reflective blankets used by campers, such
as this:
http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___81284
They come with other colors on the reverse side; I have one in green,
and I think I've seen red as well. They should hang fine with Velcro.
The big-box home centers will have a thin reflective barrier material,
but it's not designed for frequent handling. The camping blankets will
hold up very well.
Gary
--
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http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
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computer programmers, were able to gain employment at Microsoft..."
claim made by Mohammed Afroze Abdul Razzak to police in India, 12/01.
== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 7:06 pm
From: Marsha
Woolstitcher wrote:
> Solar blankets that are sold at WalMart can be cut and sewn (if desired,
> they are fine w/ just the cut edge too). They are around $3.00 per huge
> blanket.
>
>
Thank you. I will check it out.
Marsha/Ohio
== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 8:09 pm
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:47:26 -0400, Marsha <mas@xeb.net> wrote:
>Marsha wrote:
>
>> I recently read a tip about using a car windshield shade, with the
>> reflective silver or whatever you call it, for home windows. I tried it
>> and it worked wonderfully, but I had no way to attach the shade in
>> place except adhesive tape on the window or with clothespins attached to
>> the drapes. I want to get the same reflective material and make a
>> removable shade with either suction cups or velcro or whatever to put
>> over a picture window and sliding glass doors. A Google search found
>> motor home solar shades that attach with suction cups, but I really
>> would like just want the material so I can cut it to the exact needed
>> size. Suggestions?
>>
>> Marsha/Ohio
>>
>
>Um, that should be "I really would like just the material"
Not exactly the same, but you could take a sheet of corrugated
cardboard, use spray cement to attach aluminum foil on one side, and
then more spray cement to attach fabric or wallpaper to the opposite
side. Cut to fit with an x-acto, including some wedge tabs to hold it
in place. It'll warp some, which is why you want to adhere something
to both sides. Cardboard is a little safer than using something like
expanded foam.
== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 7:10 pm
From: Marsha
Gary Heston wrote:
> In article <g4rla2$fh4$2@news.datemas.de>, Marsha <mas@bex.net> wrote:
>
>>I recently read a tip about using a car windshield shade, with the
>>reflective silver or whatever you call it, for home windows. I tried it
>> and it worked wonderfully, but I had no way to attach the shade in
>>place except adhesive tape on the window or with clothespins attached to
>>the drapes. I want to get the same reflective material and make a
>>removable shade with either suction cups or velcro or whatever to put
>>over a picture window and sliding glass doors. A Google search found
>>motor home solar shades that attach with suction cups, but I really
>>would like just want the material so I can cut it to the exact needed
>>size. Suggestions?
>
>
> You can come close with the reflective blankets used by campers, such
> as this:
>
>
http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___81284
>
> They come with other colors on the reverse side; I have one in green,
> and I think I've seen red as well. They should hang fine with Velcro.
>
> The big-box home centers will have a thin reflective barrier material,
> but it's not designed for frequent handling. The camping blankets will
> hold up very well.
>
>
> Gary
>
Well, I never thought of looking in camping equipment, but this just
might do. Thanks a lot.
Marsha/Ohio
== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 7:16 pm
From: "Woolstitcher"
"Marsha" <mas@xeb.net> wrote in message news:g4rtmr$sl2$2@news.datemas.de...
> Woolstitcher wrote:
>> Solar blankets that are sold at WalMart can be cut and sewn (if desired,
>> they are fine w/ just the cut edge too). They are around $3.00 per huge
>> blanket.
>
> Thank you. I will check it out.
>
> Marsha/Ohio
>
I just found these, they look like a good idea. you can see out but no one
can see in.
I may order a few for my house.
== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 7:35 pm
From: Marsha
hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:
> Not exactly the same, but you could take a sheet of corrugated
> cardboard, use spray cement to attach aluminum foil on one side, and
> then more spray cement to attach fabric or wallpaper to the opposite
> side. Cut to fit with an x-acto, including some wedge tabs to hold it
> in place. It'll warp some, which is why you want to adhere something
> to both sides. Cardboard is a little safer than using something like
> expanded foam.
Oh, I like that idea. Very frugal! Thank you very much.
Marsha/Ohio
== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 7:39 pm
From: Marsha
Woolstitcher wrote:
> http://www.carolwrightgifts.com/cwg_v2/cwg_layout_base2.cfm?mid_sec_page=cwg_prod_detail&seq_no=2&min_seq_no=402&SingleItem=29017
>
> I just found these, they look like a good idea. you can see out but no one
> can see in.
> I may order a few for my house.
>
The double-duty ones look good, but I wonder if they will fit between
our existing curtains and vertical blinds. Will investigate further.
Thank you.
Marsha/Ohio
== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 9:01 pm
From: Jeff
Marsha wrote:
> hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Not exactly the same, but you could take a sheet of corrugated
>> cardboard, use spray cement to attach aluminum foil on one side, and
>> then more spray cement to attach fabric or wallpaper to the opposite
>> side. Cut to fit with an x-acto, including some wedge tabs to hold it
>> in place. It'll warp some, which is why you want to adhere something
>> to both sides. Cardboard is a little safer than using something like
>> expanded foam.
>
> Oh, I like that idea. Very frugal! Thank you very much.
You might also look at sheets of polyisocyanurate. It has a reflective
side and it is insulation. You could leave it in for winter. It's pretty
cheap... and tolerates hight temps. 1/2" sheets are rated at R3 and are
well under $10 for a 4 x 8.
Jeff
>
> Marsha/Ohio
>
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 7:20 pm
From: "Evelyn C. Leeper"
clams_casino wrote:
> Tommy wrote:
>
>> With a June electric bill of a wopping $76.74 at 920 kwh in a all
>> electric 1675 square foot air conditioned summertime home.
>
> I'm envious. I just got my June bill - $78.54 for 512 KWh (15.3
> cents/Kwh).
$151.04 (down from $254.83 last year) and for 851 KWh (down from 1443
last year and 1232 the previous year!).
Some may be due to differences to outdoor temperature, but we also
raised the temperature on the A/C to 79 and swapped out most of our
bulbs to CFLs. We also power off the monitor and printer when the PC is
not in use for a while, have powered off our second PC altogether, and
switched the dehumidifier to a 3 hours on/3 hours off cycle.
--
Evelyn C. Leeper
A great many people think they are thinking when they are
only rearranging their prejudices. -William James
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 6 2008 10:01 pm
From: Jeff
Gary Heston wrote:
> In article <xNWdnUjHecDLFvLVnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
> Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:
>> JonquilJan wrote:
> [ ... ]
>>> I do. Have the thermostat set at 64 - this past winter. With age (69) and
>>> disability/mobility problems increasing - just can't take the 58 I had it at
>>> a few years ago. I do layer clothing and frequently wear a knit hat. My
>>> very old home (pre 1850) has been insulated as much as possible - other than
>>> building a stud wall on the inside of the walls (vertical thick plank walls)
>>> can't do much more.
>
>> Is there any insulation in the walls? There's a variety of ways to do
>> this, the cheapest by far is blown in cellulose. I'm a huge fan of that
>> since I did my 1920 home.
>
> You can't put insulation into "thick plank walls", they're solid wood.
You may be right, but I read this differently than you do. I can't say
that I've seen a house of that era that had vertical plank walls that
was completely solid. Building styles vary depending on access to
materials but I would be surprised if her walls were solid.
Jeff
>
> Now, if you want to go build the stud walls on the inside of the planks,
> as Jan indicated would be necessary, then install insulation and drywall,
> at your expense, I suspect Jan would be glad to hear from you.
>
>
> Gary
>
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