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TOPIC: The Generals must act…
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 9:27 am
From: martin
On Oct 7, 5:42 pm, Cicero Venatio <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The Generals swear to uphold the Constitution, not swearing allegiance
> to a President. If the Generals determine that the President is
> undermining the Constitution they have not a right but a duty to remove
> him from office. General Petraeus and Dick Cheney can get this country
> back on track. The absolute refusal, by Democrats, to jump start this
> economy with tax cuts for small business is killing the job market for
> decades to come. These tax cuts should have been enacted weeks after
> Obama's inaugural, but now we learn that the Democrats will never enact
> tax cuts due to their ideology. The Democrats plan is to slowly
> transition the middle class from an unemployment check to a welfare
> check. There is no plan for jobs, because the health care will cause a
> second wave of unemployment for those who escaped the axe in the first
> wave. And now Nancy Pelosi is talking about a VAT tax, which is a
> mammoth middle class tax, which will put the final nail in the Democrats
> failing economy.
>
> The Generals must act quickly, the longer they wait the more precarious
> the average citizen's future becomes.
Has it come to this?
tt
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TOPIC: "Promote the general welfare of the United States" - doesn't mean what
leftists think
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 9:40 am
From: Gogarty
In article <ca-dnSOlNMkdxFLXnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kvisions@live.con
says...
>Tater Gumfries wrote:
>> On Oct 8, 12:48 pm, K <Kvisi...@live.con> wrote:
>>> The clause in Article I Section 8 does not mean to provide goods and
>>> services to people. It means to promote welfare - the interests - of
>>> the United States of America as a political entity - that is, as a nation.
>>
>> That ain't what the founders said about it.
>
>It is.
The more you carry on the more I think you are jsut pulling someone's chain.
We don't have the president, the Congress or the Supreme Court saying "L'etat,
c'est moi!" It's We, the people. No people. no state.
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 9:54 am
From: Patriot Games
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:11:59 -0700 (PDT), IncontinentMcCain
<incontinentmccain@gmail.com> wrote:
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== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 10:01 am
From: K
IncontinentMcCain wrote:
> On Oct 8, 3:17 pm, "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names"
> <old_redn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 8, 3:16 pm, K <Kvisi...@live.con> wrote:
>>
>>> Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:
>>>> On Oct 8, 2:48 pm, K <Kvisi...@live.con> wrote:
>>>>> The clause in Article I Section 8 does not mean to provide goods and
>>>>> services to people. It means to promote welfare - the interests - of
>>>>> the United States of America as a political entity - that is, as a nation.
>>>> Well, no shit.
>>> Then, we are agreed: "promote the general welfare of the United States"
>>> does not imply either a power or a duty to provide health care. Thanks.
>> No.
>>
>> Appears that you are the only dimwit who believes that.
>>
>> Well, maybe you and Glenn Beck.
>>
>> And a couple of chihuahuas.
>
> Re: "Promote the general welfare of the United States" - doesn't mean
> what leftists think. KA&TN? thanks ever so much in joining with me
> in CONTINUING to kick the asses
No. You two pouncing homos haven't kicked anyone's ass.
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 11:12 am
From: Beam Me Up Scotty
Gogarty wrote:
> In article
> <0b66b539-0bcc-4de4-b2bf-b1eaf391b9f4@j23g2000vbs.googlegroups.com>,
> Video61@tcq.net says...
>> On Oct 8, 2:30 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-
>> dog.com> wrote:
>>> K wrote:
>>>> The clause in Article I Section 8 does not mean to provide goods and
>>>> services to people. It means to promote welfare - the interests - of
>>>> the United States of America as a political entity - that is, as a
> nation.
>>> You mix up the Preamble that says Promote and article 1 section 8 that
>>> says provide..... for the welfare of the United states.
>>>
>>> The Preamble says "promote" So that kills the idea that it authorizes
>>> government to "give" things to the people.
>>>
>>
>> here is the real truth,
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preamble_to_the_United_States_Constitution
>>
>> The Preamble to the United States Constitution is a brief introductory
>> statement of the fundamental purposes and guiding principles that the
>> Constitution is meant to serve. In general terms it states, and courts
>> have referred to it as reliable evidence of, the Founding Fathers'
>> intentions regarding the Constitution's meaning and what they hoped it
>> would achieve (especially as compared with the Articles of
>> Confederation).
>>
>> We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect
>> Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the
>> common defence,[1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the
>> Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and
>> establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
>>
>>
>> we the people, to promote, and in the constitution, provide for the
>> general welfare.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Yes article 1 section 8 says Provide, but no it doesn't say provide to
>>> the people. It is specific in saying the Congress is to "PROVIDE" for
>>> the Federal Government.
>>>
>>
>> no, it says for,
>>
>>
>> The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties,
>> Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common
>> Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties,
>> Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
>>
>>
>> the united states is a collective of citizens who all get the same
>> rights issued to them by the constitution. the federal government is
>> here to serve the people. the united states of america is only as
>> strong as its citizens, and the founders knew that full well. and that
>> is what they mean by the general welfare of the united states. we the
>> people, as explained in the preamble.
>>
>>
>>> People have distorted these parts of the constitution to create an
>>> imaginary clause of welfare for the people.
>>>
>> unless of course you have the logic skills to understand the plain
>> language in the constitution, which you do not. if americans are weak,
>> the country is weak.
>>
>>
>>> Look at amendment 10
>>>
>>> Amendment X
>>>
>>> The *powers not delegated to the United States* by the Constitution, nor
>>> prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively,
>>> or to the people.
>>>
>> as long as those rights and laws, do not clash with federal law,
>> regulation, or treaty. if they do, then federal law trumps state law.
NO... as long as the Constitution hasn't delegated it to the Federal
Government or someone else.
>> all the 10th says is that states do have some rights, but those
>> rights can be trumped by the supremacy clause. and have been almost
Nothing can cancel out the rights of the people:
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
>> since day one. you keep whipping a dead horse. its why you are
>> impervious to facts, logic, and reason.
>>
>>
>>> Now tell us what United States means...... It means the United States
>>> Government also known today as the federal government as oppose to State
>>> Government or "the people" of Nation.
>> we the people.
>
> Don't forget that treaties trump Federal law. Treaties are the supreme law of
> the land.
NO treaty can usurp the Constitution. Even if signed in front of God
and everyone, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land.
--
*BE VERY CONCERNED*
A little liberalism like a little Liquor can be a good thing, but when
Liberalism takes control, it becomes self destructive as does liquor.
-Poetic-Justice-
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 11:18 am
From: Beam Me Up Scotty
Gogarty wrote:
> In article <JdqdnSG3ivinWlPXnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kvisions@live.con
> says...
>> Nickname unavailable wrote:
>>> On Oct 8, 1:48 pm, K <Kvisi...@live.con> wrote:
>>>> The clause in Article I Section 8 does not mean to provide goods and
>>>> services to people. It means to promote welfare - the interests - of
>>>> the United States of America as a political entity - that is, as a nation.
>>> wilson woods strikes again:) a country is only as healthy as its
>>> citizens.
>> The clause in Article I does not mean to promote any person's individual
>> welfare. It means to promote the welfare of the nation as a political
>> entity. That's what it means.
>
> What is a nation that it should have a life distinct from its citizens whose
> welfare is no concern of the nation?
>
The preamble "suggests" that the government is to "promote" general
welfare..... that is the best we get save for the recognized rights in
the constitution and the fact that government is allowed *only* to
intrude into our life where the Constitution direct the government to
intrude.
We are free, but you seem to think we are subjects of the government.
--
*BE VERY CONCERNED*
Where in the world is the Super Hero, Nobel-Man(Al Gore) he seems to be
hiding
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 11:31 am
From: Beam Me Up Scotty
Gogarty wrote:
> In article <ca-dnSOlNMkdxFLXnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kvisions@live.con
> says...
>> Tater Gumfries wrote:
>>> On Oct 8, 12:48 pm, K <Kvisi...@live.con> wrote:
>>>> The clause in Article I Section 8 does not mean to provide goods and
>>>> services to people. It means to promote welfare - the interests - of
>>>> the United States of America as a political entity - that is, as a nation.
>>> That ain't what the founders said about it.
>> It is.
>
> The more you carry on the more I think you are jsut pulling someone's chain.
>
> We don't have the president, the Congress or the Supreme Court saying "L'etat,
> c'est moi!" It's We, the people. No people. no state.
>
no it's "the people" and when the writers included them selves it
became "we the people" rather than speaking in third person.
Once the constitution creates the Government, it defines the "United
States" the "States" and "The people" as different entities.
"The people" is not redundant for the "United States"
A "United States" is a collection of individual States
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 12:30 pm
From: Gogarty
In article <4ACF7D2A.4090507@Talk-n-dog.com>,
Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com says...
>
>NO treaty can usurp the Constitution. Even if signed in front of God
>and everyone, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land.
>--
Wrong. A treaty becomes the law of the land.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in
Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the
Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the
Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or
Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 12:52 pm
From: Beam Me Up Scotty
Gogarty wrote:
> In article <4ACF7D2A.4090507@Talk-n-dog.com>,
> Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-dog.com says...
>
>> NO treaty can usurp the Constitution. Even if signed in front of God
>> and everyone, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land.
>> --
> Wrong. A treaty becomes the law of the land.
>
> This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in
> Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the
> Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the
> Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or
> Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
>
>
And you can't make any law that is NOT constitutional. Be they treaties
or what ever.
Thanks for posting the proof.
The authority of the United States, all comes from the Constitution.
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TOPIC: There is no "right" to health care
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 10:23 am
From: me@privacy.net
K <Kvisions@live.con> wrote:
>You have no more "right" to health care than you have to a big screen
>TV, Hawaiian holidays, a car, or a lobster dinner. You don't have a
>"right" to goods or services. If you want goods and services, you must
>pay for them, or you must persuade someone to give them to you
>voluntarily. If your powers of persuasion are weak, you'll fare poorly.
>
>That's simply how it is, and it's good and just.
And you have no "right" to anything you own cause you
did NOT create it
It is all "on loan" from God and you are just
"borrowing" it
You didn't even create the plant that makes the cotton
that your jeans are made! Nor did you create the
person who sewed them together!
All belongs to God
You don't really "own" anything
== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 10:46 am
From: K
me@privacy.net wrote:
> K <Kvisions@live.con> wrote:
>
>> You have no more "right" to health care than you have to a big screen
>> TV, Hawaiian holidays, a car, or a lobster dinner. You don't have a
>> "right" to goods or services. If you want goods and services, you must
>> pay for them, or you must persuade someone to give them to you
>> voluntarily. If your powers of persuasion are weak, you'll fare poorly.
>>
>> That's simply how it is, and it's good and just.
>
> And you have no "right" to anything you own cause you
> did NOT create it
False. I created the value that I traded to obtain the things I own.
In some few cases - not many - I created the things I own myself. I
have a right to them; no one else has any right to them.
No one has a right to my effort.
== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 1:10 pm
From: missussex
On Oct 9, 10:46 am, K <Kvisi...@live.con> wrote:
> >> You have no more "right" to health care than you have to a big screen
> >> TV, Hawaiian holidays, a car, or a lobster dinner. You don't have a
> >> "right" to goods or services. If you want goods and services, you must
> >> pay for them, or you must persuade someone to give them to you
> >> voluntarily. If your powers of persuasion are weak, you'll fare poorly.
>
> >> That's simply how it is, and it's good and just.
No one has the "right" to clean air and water, roads, law enforcement,
and firefighting services either. But all civilized societies provide
these services to their citizens, who pay for it with taxes, because
we all agree it is in the best interest of society.
== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 1:28 pm
From: Mrs Irish Mike
On Oct 9, 9:17 am, K <Kvisi...@live.con> wrote:
> In fact, no one has a "right" to any material good or service. Someone
> might choose to provide some goods and services to deadbeats, but that
> doesn't imply a right to them; and the provider may subsequently decide
> to stop providing them.
>
> You have no more "right" to health care than you have to a big screen
> TV, Hawaiian holidays, a car, or a lobster dinner. You don't have a
> "right" to goods or services. If you want goods and services, you must
> pay for them, or you must persuade someone to give them to you
> voluntarily. If your powers of persuasion are weak, you'll fare poorly.
>
> That's simply how it is, and it's good and just.
Damn straight! You must be some type of Constitutional Law genius.
Why stop at this medical care nonsense? No one has the right to clean
water. If I want to pee in the river, I shouldn't have to care about
those people who live downstream.
And clean air? Where in the constitution does it say I can't open a
lead smelter next door to someone's preschool?
I think my neighbors have no right to complain when I start raising
pigs in my back yard. If they don't like the smell, they should just
shut their damn windows.
I'm tired of the weak and infirmed taking valuable resources. If you
can't get out of bed, we should make all cripples into biodiesel. Lets
cut the BS and do what we want to do and kill all those not fast
enough, smart enough or dare I say, not able to properly camaflauge
themselves in a snowstorm.
They pulled this rights crap when they built the interstate road
system. They said it was for military logistics in order to protect
the country. Now everyone gets on it to take vacations in National
Parks.
WAIT, WAIT!!! I GOT IT!!! The government has only the right to
protect our borders. You with me? OK, so we need to protect the
borders with people who are healthy enough to stand and fight. We give
health care to our men and women in uniform already, but we need to
ensure a steady supply of fodder... er I mean young people to protect
us from hoards of collectivist attackers. So we need to keep our
youngsters healthy; ergo we have a right and a duty to provide health
care to the young.
Next we have to start thinking if the numbers of collectivists
overwhelm our military, it will be up to regular citizens to stand up
to the invasion. Again, we need a healthy population to protect us
from bands of looting Socialists. So giving health care to the general
population is just one more way we can protect our borders.
== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 1:37 pm
From: Mrs Irish Mike
On Oct 9, 10:46 am, K <Kvisi...@live.con> wrote:
>
> False. I created the value that I traded to obtain the things I own.
> In some few cases - not many - I created the things I own myself. I
> have a right to them; no one else has any right to them.
>
> No one has a right to my effort.
Translation: Mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine. Screw you, mine
mine mine mine.
Solution: remedial preschool in order to fully comprehend the lesson
of sharing.
== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 1:44 pm
From: John Galt
Mrs Irish Mike wrote:
> On Oct 9, 10:46 am, K <Kvisi...@live.con> wrote:
>
>> False. I created the value that I traded to obtain the things I own.
>> In some few cases - not many - I created the things I own myself. I
>> have a right to them; no one else has any right to them.
>>
>> No one has a right to my effort.
>
> Translation: Mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine. Screw you, mine
> mine mine mine.
>
> Solution: remedial preschool in order to fully comprehend the lesson
> of sharing.
You think taxation is "sharing"?
Please. The issue has more moving parts than that.
JG
== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 1:47 pm
From: Mrs Irish Mike
On Oct 9, 1:44 pm, John Galt <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mrs Irish Mike wrote:
> > On Oct 9, 10:46 am, K <Kvisi...@live.con> wrote:
>
> >> False. I created the value that I traded to obtain the things I own.
> >> In some few cases - not many - I created the things I own myself. I
> >> have a right to them; no one else has any right to them.
>
> >> No one has a right to my effort.
>
> > Translation: Mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine. Screw you, mine
> > mine mine mine.
>
> > Solution: remedial preschool in order to fully comprehend the lesson
> > of sharing.
>
> You think taxation is "sharing"?
>
> Please. The issue has more moving parts than that.
>
> JG
I am waiting for all you John Galts to shit or get off the pot. Take
to 'superior' minds and riches and move to some 'effing island like
you 'threaten' to. The sooner you leave the better for the rest of
Americans.
So when you leaving?
== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 1:51 pm
From: Chaos out of Order
On Oct 9, 9:17 am, K <Kvisi...@live.con> wrote:
> In fact, no one has a "right" to any material good or service. Someone
> might choose to provide some goods and services to deadbeats, but that
> doesn't imply a right to them; and the provider may subsequently decide
> to stop providing them.
>
> You have no more "right" to health care than you have to a big screen
> TV, Hawaiian holidays, a car, or a lobster dinner. You don't have a
> "right" to goods or services. If you want goods and services, you must
> pay for them, or you must persuade someone to give them to you
> voluntarily. If your powers of persuasion are weak, you'll fare poorly.
>
> That's simply how it is, and it's good and just.
Just because there isn't a right doesn't mean there shouldn't be a
right.
There are millions who work, many who I'm sure work harder than you
do--you just sound like one of those rich boys pampered by mommy and
daddy--yet they have no health coverage. They toil away to make their
employers wealthy, benefiting only marginally from their labors while
some Wall Street fatty sits on his butt and grows ever wealthier off
of that labor.
== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 1:53 pm
From: John Galt
Mrs Irish Mike wrote:
> On Oct 9, 1:44 pm, John Galt <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mrs Irish Mike wrote:
>>> On Oct 9, 10:46 am, K <Kvisi...@live.con> wrote:
>>>> False. I created the value that I traded to obtain the things I own.
>>>> In some few cases - not many - I created the things I own myself. I
>>>> have a right to them; no one else has any right to them.
>>>> No one has a right to my effort.
>>> Translation: Mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine. Screw you, mine
>>> mine mine mine.
>>> Solution: remedial preschool in order to fully comprehend the lesson
>>> of sharing.
>> You think taxation is "sharing"?
>>
>> Please. The issue has more moving parts than that.
>>
>> JG
>
> I am waiting for all you John Galts to shit or get off the pot.
Wait all you like. Are you doing to answer the question? Is taxation, to
you "sharing?"
Take
> to 'superior' minds and riches and move to some 'effing island like
> you 'threaten' to.
Many already have, many more probably will. Are you going to answer the
question?
The sooner you leave the better for the rest of
> Americans.
I *am* an American, and have as many votes as you do. (OK, I guess
you're not going to answer the question.)
>
> So when you leaving?
My preference is to beat you looters' heads into the ground. You never
succeed for long, since your economic policies are unsustainable, and
the electorate always comes to their senses.
This time, it looks like a very short learning curve.
JG
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 11:38 am
From: Balvenieman
geo <georgewk@toast.net> wrote:
>but will they; States Rights !
A short-lived historical anomaly, sad to say. You forget that the
forces seeking to destroy the Federal Republic and substitute a strong
central gummint won the US Civil war and, since, the regression toward
totalitarian statism has continued at an accelerating pace. The states
have more-or-less surrendered control of their National Guards
(presumptive "militia"); their edumacation systems; their roads, bridges
and highways; their drivers' licensing procedures; their homeowners'
insurance structures; and, increasingly, their law enforcement, in
exchange for large bundles of "other people's money" from the national
government. Now, the most profigate, imprudent, and repressive of those
states are lining up, snivelling and whining, and pining for an
additional free-money "stimulus" from the central government in
circumstances under which the rational move, disregarding the pollution,
would be to bulldoze them and their entire populations of nitwits into
the ocean.
--
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 11:59 am
From: "sr"
Thanks for the insight. I'll check into it. Is Lousiville, KY a safe
place?
thank you
I've been looking at Columbia, KY. Than I see there are a lot of Meth Labs
in some areas, that I have looked at, online.
This hasn't hit that hard in Maine, yet.
But, we are about 20 yrs. behind everyone else.
,
"Tony Sivori" <TonySivori@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.10.09.16.21.23.518552@yahoo.com...
> sr wrote:
>
>> Looking for a place with less snow.
>> Looking at container housing
>> must have unrestriced property
>> anyone know of cheap property that does not flood? Sandy in Maine
>
> Instead of building, have you considered an existing structure, priced
> right? Some of the less desirable HUD repos are dirt cheap. In some cases,
> where I live (Louisville KY) way under $20,000. I've seen some houses go
> for less than $10,000.
>
> The good things about HUD repos compared to bank repos are that you do not
> compete with house flippers and investors. HUD gives preference to owner
> occupants. Second, although there is no warranty, HUD will not
> intentionally hide defects regarding the property.
>
> http://portal.hud.gov/portal/page/portal/HUD/topics/hud_homes
>
> --
> Tony Sivori
> Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 12:45 pm
From: geo
but you knew that;
Losers have to "Win".
I guess it is their low self-esteem.
they must know their lacking "something" and oh do they "compensate".
It's rather sad, but they did create their own reality and it's probably
a matter of time before they hopefully really get a clue.
You might notice this in the so-called rich. External validation.
thought you might like to keep an eye out for these mutants.
--
money; what a concept!
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 1:44 pm
From: Mrs Irish Mike
On Oct 9, 12:45 pm, geo <georg...@toast.net> wrote:
> but you knew that;
>
> Losers have to "Win".
> I guess it is their low self-esteem.
> they must know their lacking "something" and oh do they "compensate".
> It's rather sad, but they did create their own reality and it's probably
> a matter of time before they hopefully really get a clue.
> You might notice this in the so-called rich. External validation.
> thought you might like to keep an eye out for these mutants.
> --
> money; what a concept!
You are right in many cases, but certainly no all.
I am the offspring of immigrants. My parents were no fans of
Comminists. I grew up poor and I had many occassions when I couldn't
afford to eat. I accumulated my money in order to never go hungry
again. I live in a modest home, I drive an older car and have never
thought to try and impress others. I just don't want to be hungry and/
or homeless.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 9 2009 1:38 pm
From: Al
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