Frugal Living: Jun 7, 2008

Saturday, June 7, 2008

25 new messages in 16 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Just Canceled Cable TV
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6cd6ada4aaa4d5bc?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 12:17 pm
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply

timeOday wrote:
>
> My kids are bracing themselves for the disconnect tomorrow by watching
> Disney right now.

There are a number of current Disney shows that are availble for free
online.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 12:34 pm
From: Dennis

On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:51:30 -0600, timeOday
<timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:

Same here, most of what I watch is available on free digital broadcast
TV. I just downgraded the programming on my satellite recever. If it
were only up to me, I would have dropped it completely, but my wife
watches news and house & garden shows during the day, and my kids like
to watch the children's channels. But maybe I can wean them
incrementally rather than going cold turkey. ;-)

> I got a digital receiver for my PVR and discovered free
>digital broadcast is much better quality than the analog cable I was
>paying for. So I also applied for the government coupons to get a
>digital->analog box for my TV. I might also get the $9/mo netflix plan.
> Heck, for the money I saved, I could go to a concert every month.

We have an HDTV in the family room, but I picked up one of the Digital
Stream converters at Radio Shack for use on a bedroom TV. I was
surprised how easy it was to set up and use. I think the digital
conversion should go fairly smoothly, even for non-tech types.

I had the $9/mo Netfilx plan for several months but recently they
started throttling my shipments, so I suspended it for the summer --
I'd rather spend the time doing other things anyway.

Dennis (evil)
--
I'm behind the eight ball, ahead of the curve, riding the wave,
dodging the bullet and pushing the envelope. -George Carlin

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 12:55 pm
From: barlow@amnia.com

timeOday wrote:
> BeaForoni@msn.com wrote:
>> Frugal movie watching can be found at Red Box. Instant gratification
>> and cheap at redbox.com . I down graded my cable and the movies I
>> watch are more current then the cable movie channels.
>
> Redbox is a good service. My only problem is it ends up costing us
> about $5 / movie because we never, ever manage to return them on time.
> That's why I'm thinking netflix might be better for us.

That is why I prefer Netfix. I have one movie that has been sitting on
the tv for two weeks with no late fee when I return it.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 3:00 pm
From: me@privacy.net

timeOday <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:

>Anyways, I struck my blow for frugality this month.

Good deal!!

Congrats!

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 5:39 pm
From: Vandy Terre

On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:51:30 -0600, timeOday <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net>
wrote:

>Well, after noticing my most recent bill was $110 just for Internet +
>analog "Standard Cable," I finally pulled the plug. I can afford it,
>but it's just not a good value. They made me work to cancel, I was on
>hold over 15 minutes. (Comcast has one submenu for upgrading service,
>and a separate one for downgrading, hmmmm.) I couldn't cancel Internet,
>but I did downgrade to the sub-megabit service, so my total savings
>should be close to $70 per month! That's unless I come crawling back
>for the 6mps Internet, which might happen, but still I'd be saving $50/mo.
>
>My kids are bracing themselves for the disconnect tomorrow by watching
>Disney right now. I think this will be good for all of us. I realized
>flipping channels wasn't adding much to my quality of life, and the
>networks, for all their supposed demise, have most of the programming I
>watch anyways. I got a digital receiver for my PVR and discovered free
>digital broadcast is much better quality than the analog cable I was
>paying for. So I also applied for the government coupons to get a
>digital->analog box for my TV. I might also get the $9/mo netflix plan.
> Heck, for the money I saved, I could go to a concert every month.
>
>Anyways, I struck my blow for frugality this month.

I live where satellite TV is the only option for live TV. Saved for several
years to afford to have satellite installed. Enjoyed it for a few years and
lost source of income, satellite TV was first to fall in the drive to reduce
expenses. Then the dear husband showed me the weather services on line, so I no
longer miss weather channel. Instead of $100.00 for satellite, we add three or
four new movies ($5 to $15 each) to the dvd collection. No commercials, no
lines of type top or bottom of the feature, personal control of viewing, I am in
heaven.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 6:54 pm
From: Mark Anderson

In article timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net says...
> I might also get the $9/mo netflix plan.
> Heck, for the money I saved, I could go to a concert every month.
>
> Anyways, I struck my blow for frugality this month.

I cancelled cable in 1992 and have never looked back. The only shows I
watch with rabbit ears now are Lost and the Simpsons so my TV won't even
be turned on again until perhaps some Sunday in late September. Lost
won't start up again until next year. I've been debating whether or not
to get the digital to analog converter. I've seen them around here
being sold for $60 plus tax which is more like $67 all day in Crook
County Illinois. The government coupon is only $40 so I'm wondering why
I should fork over $27 for a box that can't be worth more than $25 all
day. By giving out these coupons the government basically allowed the
converter box companies to jack their prices up another $40. Another
corporate welfare program but I digress. I'm seriously debating just
chucking the boob tube and the VCR, which hasn't been touched in a
decade, onto freecycle and be done with it.

That said, Netflix is great and I watch all the DVDs on my computer
monitor, a 22" LCD screen.

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TOPIC: Walk Score(tm) for Your Address
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 12:23 pm
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply

SMS wrote:
> http://walkscore.com/
>
> They take your address and they use Google Maps to index the businesses,
> services, etc that are close enough to walk to.
>
> It's got a lot of errors, but it's still interesting.

It's hysterical -- lists a lot of places that are right across the
freeway from where I live but that you have to go 2 miles to get to a
freeway underpass to go around the freeway. Lists a Sherwin-Williams
paint store as a hardware store. Lists tiny local grocers, but not all
of them, and doesn't list two major grocery stores less than a mile away.

In fact, all the distances appear to be "as the crow flies," not "as the
pedestrian walks."

And it lists Jamba Juice as a bar ROTFL.

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TOPIC: Tracfone
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 1:19 pm
From: SMS

Dennis wrote:

> But there are cheaper plans available (with different sets of
> features) from other sellers .

Tracfone is also well-known, easy to buy, and easy to refill, plus the
handsets are very cheap. That's the attraction. Most people know about
Tracfone as it's so widely distributed. Most people don't care about
$6/month versus $3/month and they don't care about per minute cost
because they use the phone so rarely.

If you're a moderate user, on prepaid, then it pays to go with a carrier
that has lower per minute rates. T-Mobile is as low as 8 cents per
minute if you buy the $100 card on sale for $80, and PagePlus is as low
as 5.3 cents per minute.

I have two T-Mobile prepaid phones. They cost $40 and came with a $25
airtime card in addition to the start-up airtime card. I got them not to
use on T-Mobile, but to use as quad-band phones when traveling outside
the U.S. with a prepaid SIM card that is country specific. My old GSM
unlocked phone was so old that it couldn't be used anymore as it
couldn't get text messages from the prepaid carrier, which was necessary
to get passwords.

PagePlus takes some legwork to set up but it's very inexpensive with
very good coverage. You can use new Verizon prepaid phones on PagePlus,
or you can use any old Verizon handset that you can get a hold of. It's
a shoestring operation, but it's far outlasted most of the high-profile
MVNOs (Mobile Virtual Network Operator) like ESPN, AMP'd, Disney, etc.

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TOPIC: Earn 25 US$ in just 5 mins . . .
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 2:51 pm
From: Al Bundy

On Jun 4, 12:34 pm, hchick...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 07:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Al Bundy
>
>
>
> <MSfort...@mcpmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Sona wrote:
> >> Earn 25 US$ in just 5 mins . . .
>
> >> You can earn 25 US$ in just 5mins from now, please follow the simple
> >> steps:
> >> It's absolutely free to join.
>
> >> Step 01
> >> CLICK HERE
>
> >Whew!
> >I can't get past step one. Some strange dope wants me to click on an
> >unknown link. Not happening.
>
> Sounds like an internet blow job.

Yea. A good hooker knows how to make $25 in five minutes.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 7:17 pm
From: PaPaPeng

On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:34:08 -0600, hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 07:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Al Bundy
><MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Sona wrote:
>>> Earn 25 US$ in just 5 mins . . .
>>>
>>> You can earn 25 US$ in just 5mins from now, please follow the simple
>>> steps:
>>> It's absolutely free to join.
>>>
>>> Step 01
>>> CLICK HERE
>>
>>Whew!
>>I can't get past step one. Some strange dope wants me to click on an
>>unknown link. Not happening.
>
>Sounds like an internet blow job.

Yep. Frugal Al is into that too. He just can't resist poking his
nose into everything including BJ's jock straps.

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TOPIC: OT: Check out what this african did to this white woman - beyond belief.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 4:32 pm
From: wismel@yahoo.com

On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:48:46 -0700 (PDT), ??Goyfire Radio?? "WE...are
the Good Guys" <truedigital90@googlemail.com> wrote:

>Trial starts for man accused of sex torture of student
>
>An ex-convict went on trial Thursday on charges of raping, torturing
>and burning a Columbia University graduate student in a 19-hour attack
>during which her eyelids were slit and she was forced to ingest a
>massive dose of painkillers that caused liver failure.
>
>Robert Williams, 31, sat with chained arms and legs, his head lowered,
>as the prosecutor delivered an opening statement that left several
>people in the courtroom weeping.
>
>Williams violated the 23-year-old woman "in every way imaginable and
>in some ways unimaginable," Assistant District Attorney Ann Prunty
>told the jury, turning the victim's small one-bedroom apartment into
>"his torture chamber." Prunty said Williams stopped the torture only
>after the victim -- who at one point tried to kill herself to escape
>the ordeal -- blacked out from hours of pain caused by knife wounds,
>boiling water, battering and sexual assaults.
>
>"Then he could no longer feel power over another human being," Prunty
>said.
>
>Williams is charged with kidnapping, arson, burglary and sexual
>assault in the attack on the woman on April 13, 2007. He faces life in
>prison if convicted. The defendant's lawyer, Arnold Levine, tried but
>failed to have Williams declared mentally unfit for trial. Levine did
>not make an opening statement.
>
>The victim, a Columbia University journalism graduate student, found
>Williams in her building's elevator in the Hamilton Heights
>neighborhood of Upper Manhattan when she came home around 9:30 p.m.,
>Prunty said. She said he followed her to her fifth-floor apartment and
>began his rampage.
>
>Williams raped and sodomized the victim and forced her to perform oral
>sex several times, the prosecutor said, then poured boiling water all
>over her to try to remove evidence. He also cut her long hair during
>the assaults because it got in the way, Prunty said.
>
>After one assault, he forced the woman to swallow a fistful of pills
>from her medicine cabinet and wash them down with four beers, Prunty
>said.
>
>Doctors later said the woman's liver had failed, probably because of
>the medicine, and that a liver transplant might be necessary.
>Fortunately, the transplant was not needed, Prunty said.
>
>Prunty described Williams' attempts to blind the victim, including
>hurling a pot of bleach in her face and ordering her to gouge out her
>own eyes with a pair of scissors. She said the woman's eyesight was
>probably saved from damage by the bleach because she was wearing
>contact lenses.
>
>During another assault, Prunty said, the victim grabbed the scissors
>Williams used to cut her hair and tried to stab him in the neck.
>Williams saw the blow coming and deflected it, Prunty said, but then
>told her she had "disrespected" him.
>
>To retaliate, he poured boiling water over her and sealed her lips
>shut with Krazy Glue and duct tape, Prunty said. At another point,
>Williams wrapped clothes around her face to muffle her screams and
>began slitting her eyelids with a butcher's knife, the prosecutor
>said.
>
>Twice, Williams left the apartment briefly to try to withdraw money at
>ATMs from the woman's account, failing both times, she said.
>
>Toward the end of the assault, Prunty said, Williams ordered the woman
>for a second time to gouge out her eyes with the scissors.
>
>Instead, the prosecutor said, the woman tried to plunge it into her
>own neck.
>
>The attempted suicide enraged Williams, she said, and he split open
>the back of her scalp by hitting her in the head with either a TV set
>or a turntable. Williams boiled more water, returned and poured it
>over her, Prunty said.
>
>"The pain was unspeakable," the prosecutor said. "The skin on her
>chest and thighs began to blister and bubble." The woman screamed,
>"Just kill me! Just kill me!" the prosecutor said.
>
>After about 19 hours, Prunty said, Williams tied the naked,
>unconscious woman to a futon with computer cables and set it afire.
>
>The woman awoke and smelled smoke, broke free and made her way to the
>hallway, where she was rescued.
>
>Prunty said Williams' DNA was found on the victim and her clothing,
>and her DNA was found on his clothing. ATM security cameras captured
>him trying to withdraw the money, she said.
>
>During the time she was conscious, Prunty said, the victim studied
>Williams closely. Prunty said every scar and feature she later
>described to police matched the appearance of the defendant.
>
>http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/am-torture0606,0,3848376.story
>
>Please leave your insensitve comments about the creature here:
>http://www.topix.net/forum/source/newsday/TE8TQGC9IS0853J7Q
>
>http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=73865

Diversity is wonderful.

ted

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TOPIC: Sometimes it just doesn't work
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Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 6:23 pm
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com

Last year, the engine on my circa 1993 craftsman riding mower gave up
the ghost. It was close to fall and I let it sit as a lawn ornament
in the field.

This spring, I bought a used motor, cleaned out the mouse nests,
replaced the oil, cleaned and mounted the carb, and after much
invoking of gods and curses, managed to get it installed. It worked
great for a couple of mowings and then died.

I was able to get a second replacement motor from the same fellow for
a minimal amount, and with a bit fewer invocations, was able to get
that cleaned spotless, re-carbed, oiled up and installed.

It worked fine, sounding even smoother than the first replacement.
But since it was working, I then hit a guy cable hidden by the road
and broke one of the mandrels on the mower deck.

Back to the old feller and picked up a replacement mower deck at a
reasonable price. It came with a rear grass catcher, which is a
s---load of black plastic parts and some metal square tubing. Got it
on and it worked fine. Gently and slowly, so as to not overload the
mower, I mowed the front part of one of my lawns.

The engine sounded a bit off, so I drained and replaced the oil again.
Got back started mowing again, and the motor conked out within ten
minutes. I think I'm being told something.

What is the going rate for scrap metal like this? I'm in the market
for an inexpensive used compact tractor with a bushhog/haying
attachment. The grass here appears to be a mite tough.

On the plus side, I did get about 15 years out of the mower, and was
only out about $200 on the recent repairs. Still...

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 6:32 pm
From: Marsha

hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:

> Last year, the engine on my circa 1993 craftsman riding mower gave up
> the ghost. It was close to fall and I let it sit as a lawn ornament
> in the field.
>
> This spring, I bought a used motor, cleaned out the mouse nests,
> replaced the oil, cleaned and mounted the carb, and after much
> invoking of gods and curses, managed to get it installed. It worked
> great for a couple of mowings and then died.
>
> I was able to get a second replacement motor from the same fellow for
> a minimal amount, and with a bit fewer invocations, was able to get
> that cleaned spotless, re-carbed, oiled up and installed.
>
> It worked fine, sounding even smoother than the first replacement.
> But since it was working, I then hit a guy cable hidden by the road
> and broke one of the mandrels on the mower deck.
>
> Back to the old feller and picked up a replacement mower deck at a
> reasonable price. It came with a rear grass catcher, which is a
> s---load of black plastic parts and some metal square tubing. Got it
> on and it worked fine. Gently and slowly, so as to not overload the
> mower, I mowed the front part of one of my lawns.
>
> The engine sounded a bit off, so I drained and replaced the oil again.
> Got back started mowing again, and the motor conked out within ten
> minutes. I think I'm being told something.

<snip>

You're being told to stop mowing your lawn.....

Marsha/Ohio

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TOPIC: Best Personal Finance Books to Help You Now
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Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 5:31 pm
From: Ablang

Best Personal Finance Books to Help You Now

Lynn O'Shaughnessy

B ookstores are crowded with personal finance books, many of them not
worth your time. Here are some recently published ones that can help
you become a wiser and wealthier investor...

Smart and Simple Financial Strategies for Busy People by Jane Bryant
Quinn. This is the first book the consumer maven has written since
1997. She provides sound advice on all the major personal finance
topics. Her encouraging message: Investing doesn't have to be
difficult. $26 (Simon & Schuster).

The Only Guide to a Winning Bond Strategy You'll Ever Need: The Way
Smart Money Preserves Wealth Today by Larry E. Swedroe & Joe H.
Hempen. Surprisingly few financial books are devoted to fixed-income
investing, which makes this book even more valuable. One of the best
chapters describes how to build your own bond portfolio. $25.95
(Truman Talley).

The Smartest Investment Book You'll Ever Read: The Simple, Stress-Free
Way to Reach Your Investment Goals by Daniel R. Solin. Dividing up
your money intelligently among all your investing choices is critical
to success. This book explains how you can do just that. It also
explains how index funds might be an investor's best bet. $24.95
(Perigee).

Inside the Economist's Mind: Conversations with Eminent Economists
edited by Paul A. Samuelson & William A. Barnett. This book provides
an in-depth look at how some brilliant economists came up with the
theories that have helped shape people's views on the economy and
humanizes a topic that often is impenetrable. It is a collection of
interviews with 16 leading economists, including eight Nobel
Laureates, who represent a wide variety of viewpoints. $29.95
(Blackwell).

Bottom Line/Personal interviewed Lynn O'Shaughnessy, a syndicated
personal finance columnist based in San Diego. Her column appears in
the San Diego Union-Tribune and other publications. She also is a
contributor to BusinessWeek and the author of three investing books,
including Investing Bible (Wiley).

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TOPIC: What to Do With Newspaper?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5f28541661165820?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 5:46 pm
From: Vandy Terre

On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:27:07 -0700, Anthony Matonak
<anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:

>Vandy Terre wrote:
>...
>> It is a fire hazard to use untreated paper to improve insulation of the home.
>> With that in mind, in times of desperate quick fix, newspaper makes cheap, short
>> term insulation. Wadded in the walls or wadded inside a large set of sweats
>> with you inside the sweats, newspaper can insulate during an emergency.
>
>It's simple and inexpensive to treat newspaper with a borax solution.
>This will effectively eliminate the fire problem.
>
>Anthony

Thank you for the information. Is this using the same borax as used to kill
cockroaches?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 7:04 pm
From: PaPaPeng

On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:45:21 -0700 (PDT), Al Bundy
<MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:

>On Jun 4, 5:25 pm, BeaFor...@msn.com wrote:
>> The local fishwrap has decided to delivery the paper to me for
>> thirteen weeks, FREE! I don't read it as it is also online. The
>> coupons value is questionable. I don't have that much fish to wrap. My
>> question is; is there anything I can do with all this paper? Can I
>> burn it in the fireplace this winter? Is there any value I can get out
>> of this stuff?
>
>More of a pain than it's worth for a lousy 65 newspapers. You have to
>go pick it off your lawn or drive 65 times. Presumably, you are not
>providing a tip so you are not a valued customer. The paper rep will
>bug you for continued delivery at the end of the 13 weeks. They may
>forget to quit delivery and then you have to deal with that.
>You have already wasted more time on it then it's worth.

Hey frugal Al. Why don't you tell them you cut them up into little
panels for use as toilet paper.

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TOPIC: The Economic Cost of the Earthquake
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 7:02 pm
From: PaPaPeng

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:35:41 -0700 (PDT), Al Bundy
<MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:

>Fair enough triple P. But even when the lucid moment struck and you
>posted it to the China group, there was only a single mockingbird
>reply there. You got more action trolling on this site.

I am impressed frugal Al. You do OWN this newsgroup!

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TOPIC: Get remaining liquid out of containers...
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 7:07 pm
From: PaPaPeng

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:13:07 -0700 (PDT), Al Bundy
<MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:

>
>Still a good idea to leave pliers in your car though just in case your
>dentist is closed before you get there or something.

Frugal Al uses his to remove his hangnails.

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TOPIC: Lacoste Smet COOGI T-shirts China Suppliers
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Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 7:07 pm
From: cheapforwholesale666@126.com

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 8:00 pm
From: Dantheman

SPAM

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TOPIC: Collectible Sports Memorabilia
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 7:14 pm
From: PaPaPeng

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:41:31 -0700 (PDT), Al Bundy
<MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>fdgfg wrote:
>> Modern sports has become astonishingly popular. This popularity has
>> propelled the collectible sports memorabilia industry to new heights,
>> also. Physical connection to a sporting event or personality with a
>> collectible sports memorabilia item creates a special bond between fan
>> and sport
>>
> What! No Billie Jean jock strap? That stinks.

Amazing Frugal Al. You actually got to smell BJ's? Go replicate that
scent and put it in a bottle. Its a collectible for guys with your
druthers.

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TOPIC: Eating right can cut diabetes risk
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Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 7:16 pm
From: PaPaPeng

On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 07:29:24 -0700 (PDT), Al Bundy
<MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:

>On Jun 3, 2:28 pm, Philospher <rajeshdiwaka...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Eating right can cut diabetes riskhttp://www.diabetics.blogspot.com
>
>While you folks are practicing your English, at least you are not
>selling shoes and hand bags. Your posts are easy enough to ignore. I
>bet the only people hitting those links are your brothers.

Well Frugal Al. Seeing that you can never resist reading their stuff
anyway you are already a member of their club.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 7:20 pm
From: PaPaPeng

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 13:42:47 -0700 (PDT), Al Bundy
<MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:

>On Jun 2, 12:01 am, af_1...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> You should know this man
>
>>
>> It will cost you nothing but it may prove to be the beginning of a
>> completely new era in your life.
>
>This wasted carbon unit has already cost us way too much.

That must be the $19 our Frugal Al didn't have to spend on the ball
game.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 7:21 pm
From: PaPaPeng

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 13:52:24 -0700 (PDT), Al Bundy
<MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:

>On May 30, 6:55 am, anjali <andhral...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Bikini Amisha Stretching In Water
>>
>If she ain't coming over to stretch with me, I don't care. I got some
>stiff areas that need working out.

Can't get a date anywhere huh?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 7:24 pm
From: PaPaPeng

On Wed, 28 May 2008 06:57:00 -0700 (PDT), Al Bundy
<MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:

>On May 28, 4:51 am, jouy <tbmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...While some car buyers choose to obtain vehicle financing through the
>> dealership, many savvy buyers are taking advantage of online auto loan
>> companies...
>
>While the even more savvy buyers don't take out any loans.

Frugal Al got his loan application trashed huh?

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 10:23 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)

In article <HsSdnaHxiedwYtTVnZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@comcast.com>, Bob F wrote:
>
>"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
>news:4rw1k.3800$xZ.1621@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Don Klipstein wrote:
>>
>>> My computer has an Asus A7N8X-E "deluxe" motherboard for the AMD "Athlon
>>> XP" processor. That is maybe 5 years old. I got it the same day I got a
>>> "3200+" processor. The battery is removable and replaceable. I have that
>>> computer on a power strip that I often turn off.
>>
>> Asus is a top of the line motherboard, so you'd expect them to have a
>> replaceable battery. The boards sold for use in name brand computers
>> are decontented to save ever penny possible, literally (I used to work
>> for a very large Taiwanese motherboard company's U.S. office). This
>> includes using a very low capacity back-up battery, and soldering it in.
>
>I've seen a lot of motherboards, and I can't remember ever seeing a soldered in
>battery.

I remember seeing one out of dozens of motherboards. I forget what the
motherboard was.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 10:26 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)

In article <slrng4k6qv.2me.don@manx.misty.com>, I, Don Klipstein wrote:
>In article <HsSdnaHxiedwYtTVnZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@comcast.com>, Bob F wrote:
>>
>>"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:4rw1k.3800$xZ.1621@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> Don Klipstein wrote:
>>>
>>>> My computer has an Asus A7N8X-E "deluxe" motherboard for the AMD "Athlon
>>>> XP" processor. That is maybe 5 years old. I got it the same day I got a
>>>> "3200+" processor. The battery is removable and replaceable. I have that
>>>> computer on a power strip that I often turn off.
>>>
>>> Asus is a top of the line motherboard, so you'd expect them to have a
>>> replaceable battery. The boards sold for use in name brand computers
>>> are decontented to save ever penny possible, literally (I used to work
>>> for a very large Taiwanese motherboard company's U.S. office). This
>>> includes using a very low capacity back-up battery, and soldering it in.
>>
>>I've seen a lot of motherboards, and I can't remember ever seeing a
>>soldered in battery.
>
> I remember seeing one out of dozens of motherboards. I forget what the
>motherboard was.
>
> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

Now I think I remember: I think it was on a 486 motherboard that I got
in 1994 in a no name computer pieced together by a small computer store.