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Today's topics:
* Frugal - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/896ece759761de90?hl=en
* My wisdom about consumption - 5 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/418c676eaf48d2d7?hl=en
* The wasteful Christian way vs. the Tibetan Monkey Way - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6b0132c6da4f51ce?hl=en
* Consume Reports on bagged salads: Still plenty of contaminents! - 2 messages,
2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9522a3044daf2abd?hl=en
* Using Bicarbonate Against the Swine Flu & Colds - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/2327990b4a832a88?hl=en
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TOPIC: Frugal
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/896ece759761de90?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 1:18 pm
From: clams_casino
Sasha Brian wrote:
>On Jan 30, 12:50 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Some terminal fuckwit that cant even manage its own lines,
>>or anything else at all either, desperately cowering behind
>>Sasha Brian desperately attempted to bullshit its way out of its
>>predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
>>
>>
>
>Regardless, it's the "frugal" newsgroup, not the "MUCH" more frugal
>newsgroup, you senile old wanker.
>
>
And here I thought it was the China spam group.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 1:24 pm
From: Michael Black
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010, Sasha Brian wrote:
> On Jan 30, 12:50 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Some terminal fuckwit that cant even manage its own lines,
>> or anything else at all either, desperately cowering behind
>> Sasha Brian desperately attempted to bullshit its way out of its
>> predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
>
> Regardless, it's the "frugal" newsgroup, not the "MUCH" more frugal
> newsgroup, you senile old wanker.
>
Yet virtually every time someone suggests something, there are other
alternatives. It's up to each to decide how much effort they are willing
to expand (or how much they are willing to "sacrifice") versus how much
they are willing to spend.
How many times have people asked here how to get something cheaper, yet
because they've asked how to get the latest bestseller cheap (or whatever)
they get literal answers that overlook buying used or going to the
library?
Frugality is about making decisions, and you can only make good decisions
by having a variety of choices.
Michael
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 4:12 pm
From: Vic Smith
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:24:25 -0500, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
wrote:
>On Sat, 30 Jan 2010, Sasha Brian wrote:
>
>> On Jan 30, 12:50 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Some terminal fuckwit that cant even manage its own lines,
>>> or anything else at all either, desperately cowering behind
>>> Sasha Brian desperately attempted to bullshit its way out of its
>>> predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.
>>
>> Regardless, it's the "frugal" newsgroup, not the "MUCH" more frugal
>> newsgroup, you senile old wanker.
>>
>Yet virtually every time someone suggests something, there are other
>alternatives. It's up to each to decide how much effort they are willing
>to expand (or how much they are willing to "sacrifice") versus how much
>they are willing to spend.
>
>How many times have people asked here how to get something cheaper, yet
>because they've asked how to get the latest bestseller cheap (or whatever)
>they get literal answers that overlook buying used or going to the
>library?
>
>Frugality is about making decisions, and you can only make good decisions
>by having a variety of choices.
>
Sure. But when I mentioned the coffee creamer, I said we liked it,
and I didn't want any arguments about that.
Nobody here is going to stop us from drinking coffee with creamer.
Also mentioned you could always argue omelettes if you want to argue.
Speed cut that out, and started arguing to not drink coffee.
The omelette argument was over, so he found another one.
That's the facts. Wanna argue about it?
--Vic
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TOPIC: My wisdom about consumption
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/418c676eaf48d2d7?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 1:22 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey
(As you may see this is NOT a popular topic in Miami, land of the SUV
and motorboats, but someday they must start changing, right?)
rk wrote:
"Commandante, Your new series of posts have me confused again. Maybe
you should not assume the reader knows a lot. Just what or who is the
Tibetan Monkey? If you don't have a house, where are you living? And
what does this have to do with Miami?"
***
Well, I do live in an apartment, not a big house. And this apartment
is located in Miami, and the Tibetan Monkey is teaching a frugal way
to live.
I know it sounds crazy to preach frugality in Miami, so I post these
teaching for the world and send you a copy. It's not really important
other than in Miami I'm forced to drive everywhere and that's not very
clean. It's not filthy like an SUV, but I still could do better with a
bicycle.
But really, all you got to do is ignore my posts.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 1:23 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey
On Jan 30, 4:13 pm, Al <albun...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 2:44 pm, TheTibetanMonkey <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 30, 2:22 pm, default <defa...@defaulter.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:04:57 -0800 (PST), TheTibetanMonkey
>
> > > <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > >I have no "possessions" but lots of gadgets like bicycles and kayaks,
> > > >which is not exactly like Gandhi, but it's good for a monkey that
> > > >loves toys. I think we can indulge in certain pleasures --like
> > > >sailboats or kayaks-- while staying away from the filthy ways --like
> > > >SUVs and motorboats.
>
> > > >The Tibetan Monkey way is the middle way.
>
> > > The problem is, the "middle way" is still not tenable for
> > > sustainability.
>
> > > There's huge numbers of people that are far below the middle -
> > > compared to what you are calling the middle. If they are to enjoy the
> > > same standard of living that you do (your middle) - you have to
> > > relinquish your toys. Implicit in the concept of the developing
> > > nations achieving parity with the developed nations, is the idea that
> > > we will lose more than they can ever hope to gain.
>
> > > The Abrahamic religions will never understand that. They can't, its
> > > written into "their charter." go forth and multiply
>
> > > The incredible stupidity of religion;
> > > 24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature
> > > after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth
> > > after his kind: and it was so.
> > > 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle
> > > after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after
> > > his kind: and God saw that it was good.
>
> > > The clincher:
> > > 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, 1 Cor. 11.7
> > > after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the
> > > sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all
> > > the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
>
> > > So you see - the planet and every thing on it is for man's amusement
> > > and to be used and discarded as man see's fit. God says so.
>
> > > All a matter of balance. The earth is finite; human greed,
> > > stupidity, short sightedness, and ambition are not. Live well and die
> > > young.
>
> > > --
>
> > "If you die young you'll never reach wisdom," I say.
>
> > We can't live like we do, we can't live like Gandhi did, for all
> > wisdom. My model of the jungle, allows for different species to live
> > in different ways, so long as there's a minimum safety net, like
> > healthcare, roof and food. Then the rest is for the individual to
> > reach. What you fancy, shoes? Hey, go for it! It won't be completely
> > sustainable, but it will be absolutely worth living and very much in
> > line with human nature.
>
> > How many kayaks you got? Don't you wish for a newer motorcycle? How
> > about the sailboat that you had? A lot of labor went into it, and yet
> > it's entirely sustainable!
>
> > Yes, we can go sailing with my middle way. ;)
>
> You must grow your own pot too as you sure are on something.
> I've been poor and I've been rich. Being in between seems about right.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Banana peels, brother, for austerity and safety. I won't smoke again
until it is totally legal.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 1:59 pm
From: me@privacy.net
TheTibetanMonkey <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote:
>No big wasteful house, no SUV, no motorboat, no desire to have them.
you live in an RV?
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 2:43 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey
On Jan 30, 4:59 pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> TheTibetanMonkey <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >No big wasteful house, no SUV, no motorboat, no desire to have them.
>
> you live in an RV?
Apartment. I just wished to live in a house boat with my kayaks. I say
like Hemingway, "The sea is the ultimate freedom."
I'd give my bikes I guess, but one.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 4:42 pm
From: me@privacy.net
TheTibetanMonkey <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Apartment. I just wished to live in a house boat with my kayaks. I say
>like Hemingway, "The sea is the ultimate freedom."
>
>I'd give my bikes I guess, but one.
I am a big bicycle rider as well....and like you
invest my money in camping equip and bikes and
adventure equip RATHER than 55" HDTV's.
I have little in terms of traditional "stuff" but am
happier than my friends who work 100 hr work weeks to
keep their SUV and big boats
I have considered an RV to live in...and could do it
space wise
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TOPIC: The wasteful Christian way vs. the Tibetan Monkey Way
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6b0132c6da4f51ce?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 1:29 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey
On Jan 30, 2:00 pm, thea <thea.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We were at the zoo years ago in San Francisco. My father had us stand away
> from the monkey cages because he had been watching some young boys tease
> them. Up walked a lady in a beautiful pink fur coat - and she and her
> escort went close to the monkey cage.
> That old monkey had his hand at his hind end - and threw his ..... all over
> the lady. She screamed bloody murder and how she was going to sue everyone
> around -- well, of course, the management quickly let her know that they
> would take care of her coat.
>
> My father was smart -- we stayed away from the monkey cages after that,
> whenever we went to the zoo.
>
Monkeys in cages are a bad idea. They grow rebellious and start
throwing shit.
Look at me, I could be riding a bike in this beautiful day, but such
is life in the jungle.
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TOPIC: Consume Reports on bagged salads: Still plenty of contaminents!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9522a3044daf2abd?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 3:04 pm
From: Artys
On Jan 30, 9:49 am, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> CR just did a small article on bagged greens and salads
> and found a danger of micro-organisms even in the
> bagged ones that say "triple" washed and from name
> brands.
>
> As a person who wants to eat greens, and knows the
> health benefits of doing so, yet who has mild
> ulcerative colitis..... I def want to AVOID any harmful
> effects.
>
> One thing CR said was to wash the greens AGAIN at home
> even if bag claims they have been washed at factory.
>
> Having said all this, what is the best way to wash
> greens and store them? What equipment would make this
> as easy and painless as possible for a busy lifestyle?
I don't know, but I am glad you told me about the report. I think I
will start re-washing my salad greens.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 4:07 pm
From: me@privacy.net
Artys <lajolie@GMI.net> wrote:
>I don't know, but I am glad you told me about the report. I think I
>will start re-washing my salad greens.
Your welcome
But as I said I have mild ulcerative colitis.... which
is similar to Crohns
I have it under control..... but I sure DONT need any e
coli, etc..... so am more concerned abt it than most
maybe.
I just "assumed" that TRIPLE washing should make things
ok..... but I am a fool cause how can you trust ANY
advertising from ANY one now days?!
One thing that was mentioned in the CR article was that
there does not exist good, hard, limits on such
contamination for greens! I'm sure the lobbyists for
the food giants have "influenced" the government to not
set any!
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TOPIC: Using Bicarbonate Against the Swine Flu & Colds
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/2327990b4a832a88?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 4:24 pm
From: "Lou"
"Courtney" <ckinear@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ab0b104b-6c94-4bd6-9187-efb0cab2cbaa@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 29, 6:50 pm, "Lou" <lpog...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Once you've done all that, you can come to a reasonably reliable
conclusion
> > as to how effective your proposed treatment is. If anyone's done that
for
> > using bicarbonate to treat flu or colds, I've never heard of it.
>
> So you're denying any degree of validity to the claims of a prominent
> physician of the day, working day in and day out in the trenches of
> the largest influenza outbreak of that era?
Not at all. It's such observations, among others, that lead to new areas to
research. I am saying that what was described here doesn't come anywhere
near the standard of scientific proof.
> Especially regarding something that is so simply and easily
> demonstrable for oneself. Most folks have a box of Arm & Hammer in
> their kitchen or bathroom.
You've lost me. How do you demonstrate it to yourself? Take some
bicarbonate every day, and if you don't come down with the flu, you can
conclude the bicarbonate prevented it? Even at the height of the 1917-1918
epidemic, most people did not come down with the flu, and it seems unlikely
that most of the people who didn't swallowed bicarbonate every day.
Let's try this - George Burns lived to be 100. For the last 70 years of his
life, he smoked 10-15 cigars a day. Is it reasonable to conclude that
smoking cigars is the secret to longevity?
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 4:49 pm
From: Courtney
On Jan 30, 6:24 pm, "Lou" <lpog...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> You've lost me. How do you demonstrate it to yourself?
The next time you are in the midst of a cold/flu or are heading that
way start on bicarbonate as described above, keeping it well away from
meals, coffee, acidic juices and sodas.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 4:51 pm
From: Courtney
On Jan 30, 1:54 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> And plenty have a clue about rigorous science too.
Remain in that little box if you wish.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 30 2010 5:59 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Courtney wrote:
> On Jan 30, 1:54 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> And plenty have a clue about rigorous science too.
>
> Remain in that little box if you wish.
You're the one in a little box who cant even manage to grasp what rigorous science is about.
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