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TOPIC: What to do if your car accelerates uncontrollably
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 10:44 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> a no brainer, if your have a standard shift. push the clutch down.
>>>>>>>>>> an automatic (really!) practice bumping the shifter
>>>>>>>>>> into neutral. Let Toyota buy you a new motor.
>>>>>>>>> I've always considered the key a great way to shut the car down.
>>>>>>>>> And yes I know it makes the car harder to steer...but not impossible.
>>>>>>>> It is if its got a steering lock and most modern cars do.
>>>>>>> Which means you set the wheel to steer straight while on a straight bit of road
>>>>>> Pity about your car ending up stopped in the middle of that road.
>>>>>> Makes a hell of a lot more sense to move off that road as is slowing down instead.
>>>>> What causes the car to slow down and be steerable?
>>>> The drag provided by the engine. Same drag you get when you take your
>>>> foot off the accelerator with the car in gear with no accelerator fault, stupid.
>>> Yet the problem being discussed is what to do when you can't get your car to stop accelerating.
>> You can if you turn the engine off.
> which would cause the steering wheel to lock
Not if you leave the key in the ignition and JUST turn it off, fuckwit.
== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 6:56 am
From: "h"
<hchickpea@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:07:42 -0800, VFW <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote:
> Thought the same thing until people informed me of how these things
> work. There are a couple of options unless you have a Prius.
> Install a gas cut-off valve, or carry a loaded 38 to shoot the damn
> thing into submission. I'm thinking seriously about only buying
> antique cars from now on.
I've never owned a car less than 10 years old. I figure all. the bugs have
been worked out by the time I get it. Plus, Subarus aren't that complicated.
== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:11 am
From: "Bill"
Has this problem happened to any auto mechanics?
i.e. Has there been an auto mechanic driving one of these cars and he could
not get the car to stop?
== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:25 am
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article
<7vrhr6F84qU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >>>>>>>>>> a no brainer, if your have a standard shift. push the clutch down.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> an automatic (really!) practice bumping the shifter
> >>>>>>>>>> into neutral. Let Toyota buy you a new motor.
>
> >>>>>>>>> I've always considered the key a great way to shut the car down.
>
> >>>>>>>>> And yes I know it makes the car harder to steer...but not
> >>>>>>>>> impossible.
>
> >>>>>>>> It is if its got a steering lock and most modern cars do.
>
> >>>>>>> Which means you set the wheel to steer straight while on a straight
> >>>>>>> bit of road
>
> >>>>>> Pity about your car ending up stopped in the middle of that road.
>
> >>>>>> Makes a hell of a lot more sense to move off that road as is slowing
> >>>>>> down instead.
>
> >>>>> What causes the car to slow down and be steerable?
>
> >>>> The drag provided by the engine. Same drag you get when you take your
> >>>> foot off the accelerator with the car in gear with no accelerator fault,
> >>>> stupid.
>
> >>> Yet the problem being discussed is what to do when you can't get your car
> >>> to stop accelerating.
>
> >> You can if you turn the engine off.
>
> > which would cause the steering wheel to lock
>
> Not if you leave the key in the ignition and JUST turn it off, fuckwit.
So originally, according to you, turning
off the key would make the car
impossible to steer because of a
steering lock, but now the steering lock
would work if you turn off the key.
Which one is the lie old fella?
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== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:26 am
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article
<7vrhnjF7hbU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Some terminal fuckwit claiming to be
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds desperately
> attempted to bullshit and lie its way
> out of its predicament and fooled
> absolutely no one at all, as always.
Pity that you still think censoring
someones reply is anything but the act
of a desperate old loser.
I've fixed the post for you
In article
<7vr5rcFlihU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >>>>> Of course in California the standard, and I believe it is a question
> >>>>> on the drivers test, is run your car up against the guardrails
>
> >>>> More fool California. And you aint established that there are any guard
> >>>> rails anyway.
>
> >>> Since you are the resident expert, prove
> >>> there aren't any. It should be easy for
> >>> you...just find a clip on youtube of any
> >>> interstate, freeway or major road in California
>
> >> Pity about other roads, fuckwit.
>
> > Pity you can't prove your point
>
> Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, as always.
Pity you can't prove your point old fella
== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:28 am
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article
<7vrhn5F7gsU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Some terminal fuckwit claiming to be
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds desperately
> attempted to bullshit and lie its way
> out of its predicament and fooled
> absolutely no one at all, as always.
Pity that you think censoring a post is
anything but the admission of what a sad
old fool you are
I've fixed the post for you
In article
<7vr5ueFlscU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >>>>> Of course in California the standard, and I believe it is a question
> >>>>> on the drivers test, is run your car up against the guardrails
>
> >>>> More fool California. And you aint established that there are any guard
> >>>> rails anyway.
>
> >>> Since you are the resident expert, prove
> >>> there aren't any. It should be easy for
> >>> you...just find a clip on youtube of any
> >>> interstate, freeway or major road in California
>
> >> Pity about other roads, fuckwit.
^^^^
> > We weren't discussing other roads
>
> Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, as always.
Easy old fella, wouldn't want to have
you spend your pension check on more
meds. What lie is that you think you see?
>
> That is precisely the roads I was commenting on, fuckwit.
You are either talking about California
roads in which case you are dead wrong
or you are talking about other roads in
which case you are terminally stupid
In your case it amounts to about the
same thing
>
> Your comprehension is that fucked ? Your problem, as always.
Maybe you should try white cotton
t-shirts
== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 10:56 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> In article
> <7vrhr6F84qU1@mid.individual.net>,
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a no brainer, if your have a standard shift. push the
>>>>>>>>>>>> clutch down.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> an automatic (really!) practice bumping the shifter
>>>>>>>>>>>> into neutral. Let Toyota buy you a new motor.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've always considered the key a great way to shut the car
>>>>>>>>>>> down.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And yes I know it makes the car harder to steer...but not
>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is if its got a steering lock and most modern cars do.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Which means you set the wheel to steer straight while on a
>>>>>>>>> straight bit of road
>>
>>>>>>>> Pity about your car ending up stopped in the middle of that
>>>>>>>> road.
>>
>>>>>>>> Makes a hell of a lot more sense to move off that road as is
>>>>>>>> slowing down instead.
>>
>>>>>>> What causes the car to slow down and be steerable?
>>
>>>>>> The drag provided by the engine. Same drag you get when you take
>>>>>> your foot off the accelerator with the car in gear with no
>>>>>> accelerator fault, stupid.
>>
>>>>> Yet the problem being discussed is what to do when you can't get
>>>>> your car to stop accelerating.
>>
>>>> You can if you turn the engine off.
>>
>>> which would cause the steering wheel to lock
>>
>> Not if you leave the key in the ignition and JUST turn it off,
>> fuckwit.
>
> So originally, according to you, turning off the key would make
> the car impossible to steer because of a steering lock,
Never ever said that, fuckwit.
== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 10:57 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Some terminal fuckwit claiming to be
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds desperately
attempted to bullshit and lie its way
out of its predicament and fooled
absolutely no one at all, as always.
== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 10:57 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Some terminal fuckwit claiming to be
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds desperately
attempted to bullshit and lie its way
out of its predicament and fooled
absolutely no one at all, as always.
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TOPIC: Hard to be frugal with movies
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 12:24 am
From: "friesian@zoocrewphoto.com"
On Mar 9, 12:24 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> Dan Birchall wrote:
> > Unfortunately, there don't seem to be as many second-run places around
> > as there once were. :(
>
> Must be hard to run a theater charging only $1 to see a movie. They just
> re-opened a long closed second-run theater near me, and they are
> charging $3.75. That's a good deal, but since you can get most DVDs for
> less than $8 now, you really have to want to see the movie in a theater
> to pay even $3.75.
We have a theater here that charges $2, and only $1 on Tuesdays. It is
the only theater where we actually buy popcorn. We don't go to that
many movies, but we check to see what is playing there. I see very few
movies at full price. I did see Avatar, in 3D Imax. That was cool.
I probably only see 2-3 movies per year.
As for buying DVDs, etc. I buy only my very favorites. Average 1 a
year. And I only have one movie in two different formats. VHS and DVD.
I would actually like to put that one on my portable player, but there
is no digital version for sale. I know somebody will ask which movie,
so the answer is LadyHawke. I love friesian horses (hence the email
address), as well as hawks and wolves.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:19 am
From: "Bill"
It is quite easy if you are patient...
I've not gone to a movie theater for years and I don't have paid TV. Thus I
have not seen many of the movies on VHS. Now I can buy VHS movies at yard
sales for $1 or less and have bought them at the last minute of the sale for
as low as 10 cents each!
And many of these movies I have never seen. So wait 10 years to see the
movie and it will be much less expensive...
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TOPIC: walking boots-- which are good?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 1:26 am
From: Peter Clinch
SMS wrote:
> The test I saw the video of on-line showed Gore-Tex being slightly more
> breathable
Oh, so why in another post did you write:
"In order of breathability, the ratings are:
eVent
Gore-Tex XCR
Gore-Tex (standard)
HydroSeal (The North Face)
Membrain (Marmot)
Sympatex, Conduit (Mountain Hardwear)
OmniTech (Columbia). "
> It doesn't really matter which
> one, though I've never seen eVent on boots, only on garments, while
> Gore-Tex is widely used on shoes and boots.
I know for a fact, and have seen, shoes and boots from Karrimor, Keen
and Rohan using eVent for waterproof liners. I'd be very surprised if
there weren't more.
As usual, just because it's outside your own experience isn't the same
as "doesn't happen" or "is no good".
Pete.
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 1:52 am
From: Peter Clinch
Rod Speed wrote:
> Christopher Loffredo wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>> I'll generally agree to that. My wettest situations (with my
>> non-Gore-tex or non-laminate boots) are when I wait too long to put
>> my gaiters on...
>
>> Still, I think that membrane boots have their place
>
> Dunno, I cant get past the fact that the military doesnt bother with
> it.
>
> There has to be a reason for that.
One needs to realise that the military have rather different procurement
requirements. If you're on a tight budget and need a boot which will do
its stuff in a hot, dry desert as well as a swamp and you need to buy
100,000 pairs then that makes for a rather different evaluation job than
a person getting boots for their particular situation, and maybe another
pair for others.
I'd agree with Christopher that they do have their place: just bought a
pair of lined shoes for not-quite 7 yo daughter, because she goes a lot
slower than Mum & Dad and if her feet get wet at this time of year
they'll probably (certainly, this particular year) get very cold too.
The sort of damp that we shrug off as immaterial can really start to
wear her down if she's in her trainers and lead to a bad experience
which means less interested in walking next time.
>> (being a bit of a Devil's advocate here) and I might eventually
>> pick up another pair for short & extremely wet situations.
>
> I just dont bother with sodden situations myself.
I do them a lot, because I go orienteering. And pretty much hardly
anyone bothers with waterproof shoes because if you're going to get wet
feet anyway (and you are if you're in a big hurry through a marsh) then
good drainage makes more sense than a membrane.
You can't really expect to go out in Scotland and not get submerged from
time to time. If wet feet really bother you then you can do what the
military do, which is use waterproof socks: easily replaced (unlike a
boot liner), and easy to not wear them on a nice day when an extra
plastic bag around your foot is just asking for uncomfortable sweating.
Pete.
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 10:50 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Peter Clinch wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Christopher Loffredo wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> I'll generally agree to that. My wettest situations (with my non-Gore-tex
>>> or non-laminate boots) are when I wait too long to put my gaiters on...
>>> Still, I think that membrane boots have their place
>> Dunno, I cant get past the fact that the military doesnt bother with it.
>> There has to be a reason for that.
> One needs to realise that the military have rather different procurement requirements.
We'll see...
> If you're on a tight budget
They arent with other military hardware. Boots are a tiny part of any military budget.
> and need a boot which will do its stuff in a hot, dry desert as well as a swamp
You dont have to have just one boot for all situations.
They clearly dont do that with other military clothing.
> and you need to buy 100,000 pairs then that makes for a
> rather different evaluation job than a person getting boots
> for their particular situation, and maybe another pair for others.
No reason why the military cant do that too, just
like they do with other articles of military clothing
like what is used for the upper parts of the body.
> I'd agree with Christopher that they do have their place: just bought
> a pair of lined shoes for not-quite 7 yo daughter, because she goes
> a lot slower than Mum & Dad and if her feet get wet at this time of
> year they'll probably (certainly, this particular year) get very cold too.
Lined boots arent the only way to avoid wet feet and
as others have pointed out, most of the water comes
in over the top, and that is true in spades of little kids.
They are likely better off with wellies used in wet weather.
> The sort of damp that we shrug off as immaterial can really
> start to wear her down if she's in her trainers and lead to a bad
> experience which means less interested in walking next time.
Sure, but trainers arent the only alternative to lined boots.
>>> (being a bit of a Devil's advocate here) and I might eventually
>>> pick up another pair for short & extremely wet situations.
>> I just dont bother with sodden situations myself.
> I do them a lot, because I go orienteering. And pretty much hardly
> anyone bothers with waterproof shoes because if you're going to
> get wet feet anyway (and you are if you're in a big hurry through a
> marsh) then good drainage makes more sense than a membrane.
I'm not silly enough to charge thru marshes.
And even if I was, water coming in over the top is much more
of a problem than water getting thru the body of the boot.
> You can't really expect to go out in Scotland
> and not get submerged from time to time.
Sure, but most of us dont go anywhere near there.
Clearly those who 'live' there have less choice on that.
But there is no reason why those of us who live in much
less sodden places should bother with lined boots.
> If wet feet really bother you then you can do what the military do,
> which is use waterproof socks: easily replaced (unlike a boot liner),
Precisely.
> and easy to not wear them on a nice day when an extra plastic
> bag around your foot is just asking for uncomfortable sweating.
Precisely. Much more practical than lined boots.
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TOPIC: The Post Office as example of ...uh... oh hell...
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 3:28 am
From: Ed Fnord
Miss Elaine Eos <misc@*Your-pants*PlayNaked.com> wrote:
> Naturally, libertarians know the answer to this problem: end the
> government mail monopoly and open up the delivery of mail to
> competition.
W.A.S.T.E.
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TOPIC: Not quite
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 5:08 am
From: "C. E. White"
"Jack Bauer" <jb@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:hn97vc$700$2@adenine.netfront.net...
> On 3/9/2010 8:34 PM, enough wrote:
>> http://con.st/10003047
>
> They still haven't actually recalled the Prius.
Actually they recalled it for the floor mat / pedal fix.
Ed
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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: Any way to avoid Ticketmaster 40% in"convenience fee" ???
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 7:12 am
From: Ohioguy
My wife asked me to look into getting circus tickets for us and the 2
of our kids that are old enough to enjoy the "Zing Zang Zoom" Ringling
Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Circus when it comes to town. She got some
sort of discount code, which I entered.
Cost for the 4 tickets was supposed to be $38, but then I noticed
that Ticket Master wanted to add another $3.75 per ticket "convenience
charge". ($15) I couldn't find any additional information about what,
exactly, this charge was for. It wasn't called an "online charge", so
I'm assuming it would be charged whether I order online or at one of
their windows. Without any details, what is so convenient about it?
It adds about 40% on to the cost of the tickets, without anything
more than a vague label.
Then, to add insult to injury, I found out that you can't just print
out the tickets. Oh, no, that would be too simple. They want another
$2.50 in order to let you use your own printer and print them! I
thought maybe I'd swing by to pick them up in person, but they want $3
for you to do that! (& then you spend $ on gas, too) UPS 3 day delivery
was $14.50. Regular mail delivery was offered for free, but with that
option they would wait about 7 weeks before mailing it - supposedly 48
hours before the event, in a plain, unmarked envelope.
I can only assume they aren't mailing out right away with the postal
service in order to try to get most folks to avoid the free option.
It's pretty aggravating, and at this point I guess I'm glad I haven't
messed around with them before. Plus, they probably have a monopoly on
the ticket sales, and I'm guessing if you want tickets, there is
absolutely no way to avoid most of these scam fees, right?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 8:43 am
From: BigDog1
On Mar 11, 8:12 am, Ohioguy <n...@none.net> wrote:
> My wife asked me to look into getting circus tickets for us and the 2
> of our kids that are old enough to enjoy the "Zing Zang Zoom" Ringling
> Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Circus when it comes to town. She got some
> sort of discount code, which I entered.
>
> Cost for the 4 tickets was supposed to be $38, but then I noticed
> that Ticket Master wanted to add another $3.75 per ticket "convenience
> charge". ($15) I couldn't find any additional information about what,
> exactly, this charge was for. It wasn't called an "online charge", so
> I'm assuming it would be charged whether I order online or at one of
> their windows. Without any details, what is so convenient about it?
>
> It adds about 40% on to the cost of the tickets, without anything
> more than a vague label.
>
> Then, to add insult to injury, I found out that you can't just print
> out the tickets. Oh, no, that would be too simple. They want another
> $2.50 in order to let you use your own printer and print them! I
> thought maybe I'd swing by to pick them up in person, but they want $3
> for you to do that! (& then you spend $ on gas, too) UPS 3 day delivery
> was $14.50. Regular mail delivery was offered for free, but with that
> option they would wait about 7 weeks before mailing it - supposedly 48
> hours before the event, in a plain, unmarked envelope.
>
> I can only assume they aren't mailing out right away with the postal
> service in order to try to get most folks to avoid the free option.
>
> It's pretty aggravating, and at this point I guess I'm glad I haven't
> messed around with them before. Plus, they probably have a monopoly on
> the ticket sales, and I'm guessing if you want tickets, there is
> absolutely no way to avoid most of these scam fees, right?
Welcome to the wonderful world of live entertainment.
The "convenience charge" is a processing fee, and all off site
ticketing services charge such fee. It varies by where you're at and
what service the production company is using.
As to the delivery charges, that also varies on the same basis. I
generally avoid those by picking up the tickets at the Will Call
window on show day. The down side to that is that there's always a
line, sometimes a long one, to wait in. What's your time worth? I've
used the mail option a few times with no problems. When Ringling
Brothers came through my city in January I paid the same fee per
ticket as they're charging you, but there was no fee to pick them in
person. In fact, I happened to be in that part of town on business
and picked them up at the box office two days before my show.
You can avoid all of it by just showing up at the box office on show
day, and hoping they have decent tickets left. Depends on what it's
worth to you to have good seats for the show.
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TOPIC: Highway Patrol officer helped slow a runaway Toyota Prius from 94 mph
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 9:36 am
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
On Mar 9, 5:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> Because our system of testing drivers does not weed out the incompetent
> ones, who comprise almost 90% of drivers on the road.
The more stupid drivers on the road, the more Toyotas, and the more
Toyotas, the more chances of accidents like this.
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TOPIC: Who best represents the interests of Satan on earth, Democrats or
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 11:47 am
From: TheTibetanMonkey
It's always what Jesus would have done, but never who represents the
interests of the opposition, the "bad guys" so speak.
I think it's time to be honest about it and expose the bad guys. The
ones denying healthcare for all and Global Warming top my list, but
there are many other issues like those intimidating cyclists on the
road.
I can almost see Satan shaking in his lair.
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 12:08 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
TheTibetanMonkey wrote:
> It's always what Jesus would have done, but never who represents the
> interests of the opposition, the "bad guys" so speak.
>
> I think it's time to be honest about it and expose the bad guys. The
> ones denying healthcare for all and Global Warming top my list, but
> there are many other issues like those intimidating cyclists on the road.
The good guys just run them over and squash them flat.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 11 2010 2:20 pm
From: Ohioguy
Answer: whoever came up with the idea of marketing those intersection
cameras to cities in return for a portion of the "taxes".
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