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* Walkable, bikeable cities - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Depreciation - 6 messages, 4 authors
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* Is God having fun watching us suffer? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* REAL HOT SEX PHOTOS&VIDEOS - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Confirmed: No bicycles in Heaven! - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Stop the Bullshit Campaign - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Illegal alien impact on employment - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Walkable, bikeable cities
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 24 2011 4:46 pm
From: sf
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:30:20 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
> On 1/17/2011 12:44 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> the deep jungle wrote:
> > (It's not my fault if you don't live in a walkable community. But it
> > was a little of a surprise to me that we are such a friendly place)
> >
> > Yep, Miami is one of the most walkable cities in the country...
> >
> > http://www.walkscore.com/FL
> >
> > It's a close runner-up at 72 after Miami Beach which has a 75. NYC
> > which would be expected to be high is 84, probably #1 . Most other
> > places in this country are nearly unwalkable, so we must be proud! I
> > can understand the little community of South Beach is walkable, but
> > Miami!? WHERE ARE THE PEDESTRIANS? :ohoh:
>
> Lots of cities have areas that are very walkable if you choose the right
> area of the city. My city varies from 0 to 83, and I'm at 77. Those that
> want the mansions up in the hills have a score of 0 and they have to
> drive _everywhere_. Those with the more modest homes down near the city
> center can walk lots of places. It's a choice we all make.
>
> That web site has some major problems. One place I used to live that
> should be close to 100 is at 75. You can walk to just about anything
> you'd need, including a light rail stop which doesn't even show up.
Agreed! My address only scored 75, but two colleges are within easy
walking distance, light rail is half a block away, another one is 2
blocks away, a public school is 2 and a half blocks away, a major
shopping center is half a mile away (easy walking distance), the list
of what's within half a mile (bike shop, groceries, restaurants,
tattoo, tanning, nail shops etc) goes on and on... but it got a 75.
Go figger.
--
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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TOPIC: Depreciation
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 4:26 am
From: "C. E. White"
"BIGtitties" <clitteigh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2b1f617d-1075-4826-941f-d0d0f23f09ca@f9g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
>I doubt I'll own my 2010 Accent 4-door long enough to determine
> longevity/depreciation.
>
> I bought a new 2010 Accent two months ago, but, being old-school,
> didn't think to look
> for or ask about a TEMPERATURE GAUGE at time of purchase.
>
> And the salesman didn't tell me about this missing instrument,
> either. Since that day he's been hard to contact.
>
> Intentional?
>
> I'll probably never know.
>
> But the absence of an in-dash analog gauge has made me uncomfortable,
> and skeptical. Like what ELSE DOESN'T this motor vehicle have?
Many new cars that appear to have analog tempearture gauges in fact do not.
They have computer controlled gauges that mimic an analog gauge. The gauges
appear to move from cold to normal as the ccar warms up, but once the car is
at normal operating temerpature they just stay at normal no matter what the
actual engine temperature is unless it moves out of the range considered
"normal" by the engineers. Ditto for oil pressure gauges.
Ed
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 4:46 am
From: "C. E. White"
"Al" <albundy2@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:1b335ac9-07df-48bc-8283-345c3295cc39@l22g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> My GMC Sierra has all the gauges and I keep an eye on them.
But how many are in fact "real" gauges? GM does still include a real
pressure transducer for oil pressure (or at least they did the last time I
looked at GM Truck Manual), BUT the dash oil pressure gauge is not connected
directly to the transducer. The signal for all of the gauges is routed
trough the PCM, so GM can play the same sort of games with the dash reading
as anyone else. Maybe the reading are "real time" or maybe not (hard to tell
from the wiring diagrams). But at least they do gather actual oil pressure
information beyond some and none - although given the reliability of most
cheap transducers I am not sure there is any practical difference.
Ed
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 7:58 am
From: Al
On Jan 25, 7:46 am, "C. E. White" <cewhi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> "Al" <albun...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1b335ac9-07df-48bc-8283-345c3295cc39@l22g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>
> > My GMC Sierra has all the gauges and I keep an eye on them.
>
> But how many are in fact "real" gauges? GM does still include a real
> pressure transducer for oil pressure (or at least they did the last time I
> looked at GM Truck Manual), BUT the dash oil pressure gauge is not connected
> directly to the transducer. The signal for all of the gauges is routed
> trough the PCM, so GM can play the same sort of games with the dash reading
> as anyone else. Maybe the reading are "real time" or maybe not (hard to tell
> from the wiring diagrams). But at least they do gather actual oil pressure
> information beyond some and none - although given the reliability of most
> cheap transducers I am not sure there is any practical difference.
>
> Ed
I know what you are saying is true on some cars, but I have verified
the gauges on my Sierra and they are pretty dam accurate at all ranges.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 8:12 am
From: "C. E. White"
"Al" <albundy2@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:8447317b-c48c-4b6c-a577-57f39b36bb85@29g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 25, 7:46 am, "C. E. White" <cewhi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> "Al" <albun...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1b335ac9-07df-48bc-8283-345c3295cc39@l22g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>
> > My GMC Sierra has all the gauges and I keep an eye on them.
>
> But how many are in fact "real" gauges? GM does still include a real
> pressure transducer for oil pressure (or at least they did the last time I
> looked at GM Truck Manual), BUT the dash oil pressure gauge is not
> connected
> directly to the transducer. The signal for all of the gauges is routed
> trough the PCM, so GM can play the same sort of games with the dash
> reading
> as anyone else. Maybe the reading are "real time" or maybe not (hard to
> tell
> from the wiring diagrams). But at least they do gather actual oil pressure
> information beyond some and none - although given the reliability of most
> cheap transducers I am not sure there is any practical difference.
>
> Ed
> I know what you are saying is true on some cars, but I have verified
> the gauges on my Sierra and they are pretty dam accurate at all ranges.
The way GMC describes the gauges on the 2011 models leaves a lot of wiggle
room. They say:
"Instrumentation: Analog cluster with speedometer, fuel level, engine
temperature and tachometer. On 1500 SLE , SLT and Denali models, includes
voltmeter and oil pressure indicators."
Indicators seems to imply that they might not be real analog gauges....
Ed
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 10:34 am
From: "Rod Speed"
C. E. White wrote:
> "Al" <albundy2@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:8447317b-c48c-4b6c-a577-57f39b36bb85@29g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 25, 7:46 am, "C. E. White" <cewhi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> "Al" <albun...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1b335ac9-07df-48bc-8283-345c3295cc39@l22g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> My GMC Sierra has all the gauges and I keep an eye on them.
>>
>> But how many are in fact "real" gauges? GM does still include a real
>> pressure transducer for oil pressure (or at least they did the last
>> time I looked at GM Truck Manual), BUT the dash oil pressure gauge
>> is not connected
>> directly to the transducer. The signal for all of the gauges is
>> routed trough the PCM, so GM can play the same sort of games with
>> the dash reading
>> as anyone else. Maybe the reading are "real time" or maybe not (hard
>> to tell
>> from the wiring diagrams). But at least they do gather actual oil
>> pressure information beyond some and none - although given the
>> reliability of most cheap transducers I am not sure there is any
>> practical difference. Ed
>
>> I know what you are saying is true on some cars, but I have verified
>> the gauges on my Sierra and they are pretty dam accurate at all
>> ranges.
>
> The way GMC describes the gauges on the 2011 models leaves a lot of
> wiggle room. They say:
>
> "Instrumentation: Analog cluster with speedometer, fuel level, engine
> temperature and tachometer. On 1500 SLE , SLT and Denali models,
> includes voltmeter and oil pressure indicators."
>
> Indicators seems to imply that they might not be real analog gauges....
No it does not, and its completely trivial to prove how they actually work.
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 4:32 pm
From: Vic Smith
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:12:21 -0500, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>"Al" <albundy2@mailinator.com> wrote in message
>
>The way GMC describes the gauges on the 2011 models leaves a lot of wiggle
>room. They say:
>
>"Instrumentation: Analog cluster with speedometer, fuel level, engine
>temperature and tachometer. On 1500 SLE , SLT and Denali models, includes
>voltmeter and oil pressure indicators."
>
>Indicators seems to imply that they might not be real analog gauges....
>
>Ed
>
Aside from display preference and whether the gauges are discrete, it
makes absolutely no difference.
By discrete I mean mostly segregated from other systems.
Lighting might be tied to a common electrical source.
The ECU shouldn't get between the sensor and display.
I prefer analog display.
But piping oil to a bourdon tube gauge means absolutely nothing if the
gauge is no good or the piping gets obstructed.
If it's accurate, it's accurate.
Anybody who is concerned about gauge accuracy should test with another
gauge to verify.
--Vic
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TOPIC: Is God having fun watching us suffer?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 6:31 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"
On Jan 25, 5:51 am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:18:53 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the
> TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of
>
>
>
> times" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 24, 4:06 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane
> >prophet of the last days before the end of times"
> ><comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Jan 24, 2:43 pm, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:55:46 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the
> >> > TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of
>
> >> > times" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > >On Jan 24, 11:46 am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> >> > >> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:11:57 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the
> >> > >> TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of
>
> >> > >> times" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >On Jan 24, 9:50 am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:43:54 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the
> >> > >> >> TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"
>
> >> > >> >> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >On Jan 24, 9:33 am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >> On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:07:53 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the
> >> > >> >> >> TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of
>
> >> > >> >> >> times" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >> >> >This is no admission there's a God just a deep insight into the
> >> > >> >> >> >psychology of the character, so to speak. Then let's assume there's a
> >> > >> >> >> >God that could stop suffering, but he keeps himself amused watching us
> >> > >> >> >> >suffer.
>
> >> > >> >> >> The desire to not suffer is one reason that man has improved his
> >> > >> >> >> situation.. Of course there are always individuals that prefer to sit
> >> > >> >> >> and watch others make the improvements and then whimper and whine
> >> > >> >> >> about their suffering... we call those individuals "leftists."
>
> >> > >> >> >Still others watch the Progress of other nations, old and new alike,
> >> > >> >> >such as Holland or Taiwan, and wonder why we are still suffering that
> >> > >> >> >much in America...
>
> >> > >> >> I'm not suffering at all. Life is good.
>
> >> > >> >"Life stinks!" Just saw the movie last night. This billionaire
> >> > >> >transforms into a hobo on a bet and is forced to admit life stinks for
> >> > >> >the poor and also learns some humanity in the process.
>
> >> > >> >So it depends what your income is... unless you are eccentric
> >> > >> >penniless like me.
>
> >> > >> >> >Suffering to ride a bicycle or scooter, or suffering to access
> >> > >> >> >healthcare.
>
> >> > >> >> My healthcare is just fine... and I only ride the bike for my own
> >> > >> >> enjoyment, so even the muscle soreness after an 75 mile ride couldn't
> >> > >> >> be described as suffering.
>
> >> > >> >Try that here and you will be harassed by the drivers until you give
> >> > >> >up. No room, you know.
>
> >> > >> Hell no. I don't ride on the streets.. The Catrike is too wide and
> >> > >> too low to do that safely.
>
> >> > >Oh, I love those. The fact that are you seen may not make a difference
> >> > >among some Florida drivers though.
>
> >> > Indeed, and in that case, the Catrike is just a bigger target.
>
> >> > >I'd have around a mile of path to ride such vehicle, so the slow old-
> >> > >people trike would be comfortable and still give you "plenty of
> >> > >speed."
>
> >> > I cruise between 14 nd 18 MPH and can get her up over 22 MPH for a
> >> > couple of miles... not too bad for a one legged man.
>
> >> Oh sorry, I thought they were pedal bikes. Maybe some are.
>
> >> I don't have a place to put them and my last trike rusted out.
>
> >> > I have the Pinellis trail (34 miles) and the Suncoast trail (42 miles)
> >> > just a few miles away, and the Withlacoochie trail about an hour's
> >> > drive away. There's a few more here and there and the Suncoast is
> >> > going to hook up with the North Tampa trail to make it even longer..
>
> >> My revolution will be put on hold when I find plenty of trails to
> >> ride. Definitely will check those out.
>
> >I guess someone has to die for something to get accomplished. Most of
> >the time though people simply die and nobody cares. Not this time
> >though...
>
> >"In 1983, a man whose son was killed while riding his bike helped form
> >the Pinellas County Metropolitan Planning Organizations Bicycle
> >Advisory Committee. This committee, in conjunction with the Pedestrian
> >Safety Committee, wanted a safe place to enjoy cycling, hiking or
> >jogging. At the same time, Pinellas County officials had the problem
> >of what to do with a 34 mile (55 km) corridor of abandoned CSX
> >Transportation right-of-way."
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinellas_Trail
>
> >It mentions crime, is that a problem there?
>
> ...over in Tampa and down in St Pete.. but probably not as bad as in
> Miami. Where I am isn't too bad but it's not like when I was up in
> Montana years ago and we didn't even have a lock on the door...
You need someone tough to clear the path first... ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo0s9hC3F1M
Just because the authorities don't care. Right here we got a path for
"la creme de la creme" and "la merde de la merde" is also sitting by
watching for predation. And they pay two security guys to do shit and
idle by with no guns. Like I said, we need some tough enforcement or
cowboy superheroes.
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TOPIC: Confirmed: No bicycles in Heaven!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 9:39 am
From: Derek C
On Jan 24, 6:24 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
the deep jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Someone just told me that only SUVs are found in Heaven. I don't know
> if Heaven is for big shots only, but this bastard (it must be a
> bastard) denied there are bicycles in which case the poor are denied
> admission.
>
> Funny, I already was getting ideas like jumping with my monkey bike
> all over the place and never getting hurt or killed. The idea of
> wings, on the other hand, seem to have fallen out of fashion and now
> people try to use their power and influence to get near God.
>
> But like I say, Heaven and Hell are on this Earth and cyclists are
> pedestrians with wings. Only poor pedestrians don't have wings and are
> threatened by cyclists on sidewalks. Even our roads are pretty hellish
> too for drivers! Such is life, Darwinism all around us.
>
Why would you need bicycles in heaven when you are equipped with a
nice pair of wings?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 9:54 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"
On Jan 25, 12:39 pm, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jan 24, 6:24 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> the deep jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Someone just told me that only SUVs are found in Heaven. I don't know
> > if Heaven is for big shots only, but this bastard (it must be a
> > bastard) denied there are bicycles in which case the poor are denied
> > admission.
>
> > Funny, I already was getting ideas like jumping with my monkey bike
> > all over the place and never getting hurt or killed. The idea of
> > wings, on the other hand, seem to have fallen out of fashion and now
> > people try to use their power and influence to get near God.
>
> > But like I say, Heaven and Hell are on this Earth and cyclists are
> > pedestrians with wings. Only poor pedestrians don't have wings and are
> > threatened by cyclists on sidewalks. Even our roads are pretty hellish
> > too for drivers! Such is life, Darwinism all around us.
>
> Why would you need bicycles in heaven when you are equipped with a
> nice pair of wings?
I hate flying. Heaven must have bicycles or scooters.
Actually I think scooters are way more fun, but it doesn't keep you
fit. And who cares anyway when we all will be fat up there. (This is
an educated guess, seeing Christians being lazy and driving to the
store.)
You know, we should drive scooters instead of cars.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 9:50 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"
(This may be applicable to any great project that never comes --such
as bullet trains or bike facilities. Words like "Master Plan" abound.
Under communism they were known as Five Year Plans)
"Whether you reject the Bible, the hobos occupying your community, cat
shit or any kind of shit, this is the campaign for you. Politics and
religion may never be the same. You want them to deliver the goods
now!"
http://www.zazzle.com/bullshitcampaign_tshirt-235412118881194491
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. I just hate it when
I step on cat's shit or when they talk about Jesus coming soon!
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Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 2:09 pm
From: "Colonel Kurtz"
On 24-Jan-2011, "Palin- Russian Jew" <adolph@palin.net> wrote:
> > Top it off with the fact that Uncle Suckemoff welcomed 1.1 million
> > LEGAL
> > immigrants in 2009! Who supports the diseased government in
> > Washington DC?
>
> If you paid your taxes, YOU supported the diseased government in
> Washington DC. If you didn't pay your taxes - you are a criminal!!
If you avoid or evade sending money to the criminals in DC and your states
and municipalities, you're a patriot. To buckle under to the parasites makes
you merely a host organism.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 10:09 pm
From: aesthete8
On Dec 21 2010, 7:46 pm, aesthete8 <art...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If anyone has tried it, any reactions? Can you recommend it?:
>
> http://alatest.com/reviews/laptop-reviews/sylvania-7-g-netbook/po3-64...
Thanks for your quick and informative reply.
Does that Sylvania netbooklet require anti-virus software?
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TOPIC: Lexmark 2500 printer
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Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 10:28 pm
From: aesthete8
Any reactions to that?
Is that recommendable?
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