Frugal Living: Feb 11, 2009

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Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 10:36 am
From: Vic Smith

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:19:25 -0600, hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:

>
>I mostly read a few things here and post on a couple of forums
>-city-data and homesteading today. They are way too structured and
>prissy, but times change. Haven't seen Dennis here as much since
>before the election.
>
Nobody to argue with. I miss that Baron guy. He was a trip.
Dennis it too easy.

>I'm still working on new income sources, have begun to do a bit of
>wordworking to that effect. Good kite weather today.

Heh. I retired early, but decided to go make some more money
late last year. Used to just make a call.
Nobody returned my call this time.
But I'm not complaining.

--Vic

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Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 10:37 am
From: andresmoor@gmail.com

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 12:17 pm
From: thenthock@gmail.com

Get it http://imival.blogspot.com/ - Photos of Obamas wife naked! We
will keep this our little secret amazing! archive of private movies
and all kinds of sexual positions. You must see her with her batman
utility belt its quite the movie. A must watch. Voted for change and
thats all I got :(.)

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 1:48 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

On Feb 11, 3:17 pm, thenth...@gmail.com wrote:
> Photos of Obamas wife naked! We
> will keep this our little secret amazing! archive of private movies
> and all kinds of sexual positions. You must see her with her batman
> utility belt its quite the movie. A must watch. Voted for change and
> thats all I got :(.)

My vision is bad enough already. I can't take the chance of blindness.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 1:54 pm
From: nick

On Feb 11, 4:48 pm, albun...@mailinator.com wrote:
> On Feb 11, 3:17 pm, thenth...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Photos of Obamas wife naked! We
> > will keep this our little secret amazing! archive of private movies
> > and all kinds of sexual positions. You must see her with her batman
> > utility belt its quite the movie. A must watch. Voted for change and
> > thats all I got :(.)
>
> My vision is bad enough already. I can't take the chance of blindness.

Isn't it time you guys worked some new material? You've been working
this schtick since Amy Carter.

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 12:37 pm
From: James

Which do you prefer?

In the case of ice creme and pasta sauce I prefer price hike because
it's a bitch dealing with different sizes. I used to eat half of a
half gal ice creme at one sitting. Now I some times end up eating the
whole container of the down sized half gal because after I ate what I
wanted there is too little left for another serving.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 2:49 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

James wrote:

> Which do you prefer?

The price change.

> In the case of ice creme and pasta sauce I prefer price hike because
> it's a bitch dealing with different sizes. I used to eat half of a
> half gal ice creme at one sitting. Now I some times end up eating the
> whole container of the down sized half gal because after I ate what I
> wanted there is too little left for another serving.

Thats why you need the golf buggy to get around the supermarket now.

Soon you'll need a truck with a crane built in to get out of the house.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 4:33 pm
From: "Lou"

"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d0732e3f-b9c6-41de-936f-6ccd1282d431@a12g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> Which do you prefer?
>
> In the case of ice creme and pasta sauce I prefer price hike because
> it's a bitch dealing with different sizes. I used to eat half of a
> half gal ice creme at one sitting. Now I some times end up eating the
> whole container of the down sized half gal because after I ate what I
> wanted there is too little left for another serving.

In other words, you ate a quart of ice cream (not creme) at once. You could
put the remainder back in the freezer, and the next time finish it off
before opening another container to complete your snack.

I love ice cream, and I can see how it's possible to eat a quart or even
more at one sitting, but really, would you drink a quart of cream (suitably
sweetened and flavored of course) all in one go?

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 5:39 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

James wrote:
> Which do you prefer?
>
> In the case of ice creme and pasta sauce I prefer price hike because
> it's a bitch dealing with different sizes. I used to eat half of a
> half gal ice creme at one sitting. Now I some times end up eating the
> whole container of the down sized half gal because after I ate what I
> wanted there is too little left for another serving.

Either way they are not fooling me. If they raise the price at least
that's an honest move as opposed to trying to trick people with
packaging. I have my limits. When the price goes to high I begin to
look for alternatives. Sometimes the price increase brings an
opportunity to save in a big way with something else or by rethinking
my habits.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 1:12 pm
From: OhioGuy

Yesterday I found a copy of Panzer General II for 60 cents. Today I
got a Sound Blaster Live sound card for $1, Nvidia Geforce 2 AGP video
card for $2 and an IBM PS2 keyboard with the wonderful clickety clack
sounding keys for $1.

What have you found lately?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 2:47 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

OhioGuy wrote:

> Yesterday I found a copy of Panzer General II for 60 cents. Today I got a Sound Blaster Live sound card for $1,
> Nvidia Geforce 2 AGP video card for $2 and an IBM PS2 keyboard with the wonderful clickety clack sounding keys for $1.

> What have you found lately?

4 bread machines for peanuts, two for me, identical to the one I already had,
one each for a couple of mates whose previous bread machine had died.

All virtually brand new and perfect with manuals.

Heaps of PET beer bottles and a brewing barrel and misc
other beer stuff like concentrate in cans etc, all for peanuts.

Sunbeam Mixmaster 50s vintage, identical model to the one I have always
had from the parents, for less than the cost of new beaters alone on ebay.

Hordes of books, including the Vise book on Google last weekend.

Car kit for the Nokia N95 8GB for peanuts.

Etc etc etc.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 5:35 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

On Feb 11, 4:12 pm, OhioGuy <n...@none.net> wrote:
> Yesterday I found a copy of Panzer General II for 60 cents. Today I
> got a Sound Blaster Live sound card for $1, Nvidia Geforce 2 AGP video
> card for $2 and an IBM PS2 keyboard with the wonderful clickety clack
> sounding keys for $1.
>
> What have you found lately?

Sorry partner. I wouldn't give you a buck for all that stuff you named
above. It's all old junk. You reminded me to clean out my storage.
Check my dumpster.
I was given a Dell laptop that my friend saved from the trash for me.
It has a 2.6Ghz processor and I added 1GB memory. The only defect was
the pinout on the power supply, which was an easy fix for me.

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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 1:16 pm
From: OhioGuy

We are only located about 4 miles from all of the local TV antennas,
but we still have problems now and then with receiving a couple of the
channels. (strength levels of between 50 and 60 for them)

I'm just using a cheap bowtie antenna that I got for 3 bucks from
Radio Shack. It works ok most of the time, but it is particularly
annoying for my kids, because the PBS station they want to watch has
trouble about one day a week.

Can anyone recommend another small antenna for $10 or less that I can
try that might do a slightly better job of pulling in these stations?
Thanks!

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 1:35 pm
From: Shaun Eli

Before you spend any money you could just try stringing longer wires
in place of the bowtie antenna.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 2:41 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

OhioGuy wrote:
> We are only located about 4 miles from all of the local TV antennas,
> but we still have problems now and then with receiving a couple of the
> channels. (strength levels of between 50 and 60 for them)
>
> I'm just using a cheap bowtie antenna that I got for 3 bucks from
> Radio Shack. It works ok most of the time, but it is particularly
> annoying for my kids, because the PBS station they want to watch has
> trouble about one day a week.
>
> Can anyone recommend another small antenna for $10 or less that I
> can try that might do a slightly better job of pulling in these stations?

Dont bother, digital TV will fix that without changing the antenna.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 2:55 pm
From: Jim Prescott

In article <gmvf8h$lgq$1@news.ett.com.ua>, OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote:
> We are only located about 4 miles from all of the local TV antennas,
>but we still have problems now and then with receiving a couple of the
>channels. (strength levels of between 50 and 60 for them)
> I'm just using a cheap bowtie antenna that I got for 3 bucks from
>Radio Shack. It works ok most of the time, but it is particularly
>annoying for my kids, because the PBS station they want to watch has
>trouble about one day a week.
> Can anyone recommend another small antenna for $10 or less that I can
>try that might do a slightly better job of pulling in these stations?

A Silver Sensor is usually better than a bowtie but costs ~$25.

You might try using a longer cable so that you can locate your bowtie
higher up and/or closer to a window that faces the transmitters.

You can use www.tvfool.com to see which direction your stations come
from. It can also tell you whether any will be moving to VHF; your bowtie
isn't going to work well for VHF stations (though rabbit ears might).
--
Jim Prescott - Computing and Networking Group jgp@seas.rochester.edu
School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, University of Rochester, NY

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 5:13 pm
From: "John A. Weeks III"

In article <6vh2haFjs7qtU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> OhioGuy wrote:
> > We are only located about 4 miles from all of the local TV antennas,
> > but we still have problems now and then with receiving a couple of the
> > channels. (strength levels of between 50 and 60 for them)
> >
> > I'm just using a cheap bowtie antenna that I got for 3 bucks from
> > Radio Shack. It works ok most of the time, but it is particularly
> > annoying for my kids, because the PBS station they want to watch has
> > trouble about one day a week.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend another small antenna for $10 or less that I
> > can try that might do a slightly better job of pulling in these stations?
>
> Dont bother, digital TV will fix that without changing the antenna.

My experience so far is that it is harder to get the digital signals
than the analog signals, at least here in the Twin Cities.

The antenna I recommend for city usage is the Winegard HD-1080.
It can be used indoors, in your attic, in your garage, or outdoors.
You can find it at Amazon for under $30. There are similar units
available from Antennas Direct.

-john-

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Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com
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== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 5:30 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

OhioGuy wrote:
> We are only located about 4 miles from all of the local TV antennas,
> but we still have problems now and then with receiving a couple of the
> channels. (strength levels of between 50 and 60 for them)
>
> I'm just using a cheap bowtie antenna that I got for 3 bucks from
> Radio Shack. It works ok most of the time, but it is particularly
> annoying for my kids, because the PBS station they want to watch has
> trouble about one day a week.
>
> Can anyone recommend another small antenna for $10 or less that I can
> try that might do a slightly better job of pulling in these stations?
> Thanks!

What you seem to need is an antenna booster, which is an amplified
antenna. They run about $30. If you have not switched to digital yet,
you will need this based on what you report. Digital is all or
nothing. If the signal is not sufficient, you get nothing. If it's
sufficient, the picture looks perfect.
Your signal depends on the pattern of radiated power from each
station. These patterns are changing with the digital too. You will
not go wrong by spending a few bucks on an amplifier.
PS. PBS stations often have faulty equipment due to finances. They may
be getting ready to drop the analog signal and scrap the equipment
that needs maintenance. So far, about 25% of stations have chosen to
ignore Obama's wishes and drop analog on the 17th as originally
schedules.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 5:36 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

John A. Weeks III wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> OhioGuy wrote

>>> We are only located about 4 miles from all of the local TV antennas,
>>> but we still have problems now and then with receiving a couple of
>>> the channels. (strength levels of between 50 and 60 for them)

>>> I'm just using a cheap bowtie antenna that I got for 3 bucks
>>> from Radio Shack. It works ok most of the time, but it is
>>> particularly annoying for my kids, because the PBS station
>>> they want to watch has trouble about one day a week.

>>> Can anyone recommend another small antenna for $10 or less that I
>>> can try that might do a slightly better job of pulling in these stations?

>> Dont bother, digital TV will fix that without changing the antenna.

> My experience so far is that it is harder to get the digital signals
> than the analog signals, at least here in the Twin Cities.

Dont believe it, particularly when the original analog transmitters are reused for digital TV.

His problem of a particular station being variable time wise goes away with digital.

> The antenna I recommend for city usage is the Winegard HD-1080.
> It can be used indoors, in your attic, in your garage, or outdoors.
> You can find it at Amazon for under $30. There are similar units
> available from Antennas Direct.

Bet his current one will be fine with digital TV.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 2:24 pm
From: oz2werewolf@googlemail.com

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 3:54 pm
From: dalharvey

HOW TO MAKE EASY MONEY FAST AND LEGALLY!!!!!!!!
This seems to really have potential. This is the way the original post
appeared when I first found it. Read it all then decide for yourself.
It works for me! I found this on a bulletin board and decided to try
it. A little while back, I was browsing through newsgroups, just like
you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you
could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial
investment of $6.00! So I thought, "Yeah right, this must be a scam",
but like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Even though the
investment was a measly $6, I had three questions that needed to be
answered before I could get involved in this sort of thing. IS THIS
REALLY LEGAL? I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little
skeptical that I would actually make any CASH but he said it WAS LEGAL
if I wanted to try it. I told him it sounded a lot like a chain letter
but the details of the system (SEE BELOW) actually made it a
legitimate legal business. 2. IS OK WITH THE POST OFFICE OR IS IT MAIL
FRAUD? I called them: 1-800-725-2161 and they confirmed THIS IS
ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! (See 18, h sections1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery
Laws). This clarifies the program of collecting names and addresses
for a mailing list. 3. IS IT RIGHT? Well, everyone who sends me a buck
has a good chance of getting A LOT of CASH ... a much better chance
than buying a lottery ticket!!! 4. WHAT IS THE BUSINESS? You are in
the business of collecting mailing lists and recruiting new list
developers. These questions answered, I decided to proceed. The
instructions said that you have to send $1.00 to each of the 6 names
and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and
address in the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at
least 300 newsgroups. (There are thousands) No catch, that was it. So,
I invested the measly $6.00. Well GUESS WHAT!! Within 7 days, I
started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I figured it would
end soon, but the money just kept coming in. In my first week, I made
about $25.00. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over
$1,000! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still
growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just
over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in rapidly. It's certainly worth
$6.00, and 6 stamps, I have spent more than that on the lottery!! Let
me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works. Also,
make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the
information off of it as you need it. I seems likely to me that if you
follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more money
than you thought possible by doing something so easy! Suggestion: Read
this entire message carefully! (print it out or download it.) Follow
the simple directions and watch the money come in! It's easy. It's
legal. And, your investment is only $6.00 (Plus postage) IMPORTANT:
This is not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it
is virtually no risk - it really works!!!! If all of the following
instructions are adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends.
PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or
more can be yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful
because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please
continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You
will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business your
product is not solid and tangible, it's a service. You are in the
business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large corporations are
happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. However, the money made from
the mailing lists is secondary to the income which is made from people
like you and me asking to be included in that list. Here are the 4
easy steps to success: STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and
write the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR
MAILING LIST include your mailing address, the date and your
signature." Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the
6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope
(to prevent thievery). Next, place one paper in each of the 6
envelopes and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each
with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name and address,
and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS
ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and you are
paying for it! Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little
worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with
the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is
indeed legal! Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:

1.) T. Dunn 722 Hopital Rd. Dawson Springs, Ky 42408,USA
2.) K. Carpenter P.O. Box 5174 Rantoul Illinois 61866-5174
3.)D. Stephens P.O. Box 512 Staunton, MI 24321
4.) J. Zuk 13709 Flank March Ln Spotsylvania, VA 22553
5.) Cornelius Stewart 2821 Avenue b Fort Pierce, Fl 34947
6.) Dalton Harvey 1903 W 35th St Kearney, NE 68845-2707

STEP 2: Now take
the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up
(6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 6 on
the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this
article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended
article to at least 300 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 32,000
groups) All you need is 300, but remember, the more you post, the more
money you make! This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer
to Title 18 Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws. PLEASE
REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the honesty
and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to
the directions. Look at it this way. If you are of integrity, the
program will continue and the money that so many others have received
will come your way. NOTE: You want to retain every name and address
sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes
people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service.
(Also, it might be a good idea to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper to
reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the
directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for
their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your
name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name
reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in
CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the
first six people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the
list and you're in business! DIRECTIONS FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS
STEP 1) You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own
posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and
drag your cursor to the bottom of this document, and select 'copy'
from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the
computer's memory STEP 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your
cursor at the top of the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select
'paste'. This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you
can add your name to the list STEP 3) Save your new notepad file as a
text file. If you want to do your postings in different settings,
you'll always have this file to go back to. STEP 4) Use Netscape or
Internet explorer and try searching for various newsgroups (on-line
forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.) STEP 5) Visit these
message boards and post this article as a new message by highlighting
the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill
in the Subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they
scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the
post message button. You're done with your first one!
Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different
newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take
about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU
POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM
OF 300 That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world
within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the
large amount

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 3:56 pm
From: dalharvey

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 4:44 pm
From: hpope@lycos.com

On Feb 11, 4:30 pm, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FROM THE
>
> WWW.AMERICANWORKER.ORG
>
> Web site.
>
> Ask why we keep bringing in 1.5 million foreign workers a year to take
> American jobs.
>
> More than 11 million Americans are looking for work. Yet our
> government allows more than 1.5 million foreign workers a year to
> legally enter the U.S. for jobs. That doesn't include millions of
> illegal foreign workers.
> Ask why congressman Luis Gutierrez wants to stop worksite enforcement
> against employers hiring illegal workers.
>
> Worksite enforcement of companies hiring illegal workers is opening up
> jobs for Americans. But Congressman Luis Gutierrez is pressuring
> President Obama to stop worksite enforcement. Why would he do that to
> his fellow Americans in an economy like this?
> What you can do to help.
> Call President Obama at 202-456-1111 and ask him to tell Congressman
> Gutierrez NO on stopping worksite enforcement.
> Call your Members of Congress at 202-224-3121 and ask them why it
> makes sense to bring in another 1.5 million new foreign workers this
> year.
> Tell your friends about this website and ask them to join the fight to
> save American jobs.
>
> Would the OBSTRUCTIONIST Repub Senators, or the Dems who are in on
> this
> H1B Visa scam, have any response, ANY RESPONSE AT ALL to justify this?
>
> Citizen Jimserac
> ANY RESPONSE AT ALL for JUSTIFICATION,
> I'll even take some pathetic rationalization....

Perhaps Americans will soon awaken as the employment numbers continue
downward.

Mitch

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TOPIC: DTV converters
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 5:08 pm
From: "John A. Weeks III"

In article <4992f706$0$5057$6c36adad@news.usenetserver.com>,
info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com (spendwize.com) wrote:

> The problem with buying any of these converters is that you won't truly
> know how well they work until the conversion goes into effect! I bought
> one when the coupons first came out and now that the conversion date has
> been postponed, it'll be well-past the warranty time of a year when it
> will be put to the test!

More misinformation. All stations that are going digital have
had their DTV transmitters up and running for quite some time,
in fact, as long as 5 years. You converter should work right
now just as things are. If it don't work now, it isn't going
to work after the cut-over.

-john-

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 5:10 pm
From: "John A. Weeks III"

In article
<georgewkspam-C6F0F6.07242411022009@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Okikuro <georgewkspam@humboldt1.com> wrote:

> paper bills are great for those that believe in..... gummint.

Paper bills are money. You can buy anything you want with
it, and exchange it for goods and services. There is nothing
to believe in. If you have paper bills, you have money, and
you can spend it at will. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise
is a looney.

-john-

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