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TOPIC: vacuum cleaner-comparison-best buy
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 12:10 pm
From: Frank Erskine
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:30:38 -0800, ibuysmart
<ibuysmart@googlemail.com> wrote:
>HI there,
>Try my website
<snip>>
>I've got loads of Vaccum Cleaners
>
...but still can't spell vacuum.
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 12:45 pm
From: geoff
In message <1195065038.757940.147780@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
ibuysmart <ibuysmart@googlemail.com> writes
>On Nov 8, 6:08 am, Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In article <1194459963.920975.120...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> "augusto...@hotmail.com" <augusto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hello there,
>> > can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner (cylinder one)? Do you
>> > know any useful and recent test/comparison made by some consumers
>> > association reporting the best buy ?
>> > Thanks for your suggestions!
>> > Augusto
>>
>> Checkhttp://www.consumerreports.org/
>
>HI there,
>Try my website
>www.ibuysmart.co.uk
>
>I've got loads of Vaccum Cleaners
>
You can't even spell vacuum -
spamming cunt
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TOPIC: action against Argos on faulty goods
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 2:22 pm
From: "DubDriver"
"Nathan" <nospam@thank.you> wrote in message
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>
> "rainandsnow" <therainandsnow@NOTTHISBITyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:5pmfcsFrifgdU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Simon Finnigan wrote:
>>> "rainandsnow" <therainandsnow@NOTTHISBITyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:5pk748Frk0ncU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Simon Finnigan wrote:
>>>>> "rainandsnow" <therainandsnow@NOTTHISBITyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:5phnr5Fr2bdcU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> we are the robots wrote:
>>>>>>> johngood_____ wrote:
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>> Just take it back and say you've only had it 'bout a week and
>>>>>>> haven't got the receipt.
>>>>>>> Works every time!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But that is lying.
>>>>>
>>>>> As is saying you have no right to a replacement, which is the blanket
>>>>> statement from the likes of Argos.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good point, but is it possible that the person at Argos saying that may
>>>> believe it to be true?
>>>
>>> Why would that be at all relevant? They are acting as a representative
>>> of their company, and if their company has told them to say it, and they
>>> say it, why would it matter what they thought?
>>
>>
>> Why would it be relevant?? Because if they didn't know then telling them
>> would be a better solution than lying as they would not be so inclined to
>> pass on false information to other customers.
>>
>> If you are saying that one lie justifies another, then do you have any
>> problem with Argos's actions in Martin's scenario above??
>>
>> If Argos are acting in ignorance of their obligations or pretending to be
>> ignorant, surely invoking ones rights is a better and more honourable
>> course of action than lying.
>
> I've worked in aftersales for many years, and having read up on this type
> of thing on the Trading Standards website,
I think you need to "read up" a little more
> there are a number of factors involved in determining whether you are
> entitled to anything after the guarantee period has expired.
Assuming a 12 month guarantee then it's nothing to do with that as the key
period of time after purchase is 6 months, this is when important rights
change under the SOGA
http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/cgi-bin/bglitem.cgi?file=badv073-1011.txt
> The most important in this case is whether one would reasonably expect
> that the product would only last that long, taking account of the price
> paid and expected use. As this is such a low cost item, they could
> successfully argue that it is reasonable for it to only last a year.
They could but they would be wrong as the purchaser could equally argue that
the Sale of Goods Act makes no mention of the cost of the goods) otherwise
as in the OP case battery chargers would be exempt from the SOGA)!
> On another note - unless you happen upon a particularly inexperienced
> staff member, Argos will not normally replace a product without a receipt.
Then they would be wrong to insist that a receipt is necessary as the SOGA
states any reasonable proof of purchase is sufficient ie a credit card bill
for example
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 2:26 pm
From: BrotherSandMonkey
On Nov 11, 4:50 pm, clams casino <PeterGrif...@drunkin-clam.com>
wrote:
> BrotherSandMonkey wrote:
>
> With a relative in the restaurant business, I can vouch that many items
> at Sams, Costco, etc are cheaper than typical wholesalers.- Hide quoted text -
Not for dealers to buy. For the individual consumer.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 2:28 pm
From: BrotherSandMonkey
On Nov 11, 8:14 pm, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> BrotherSandMonkey wrote:
> > On Nov 10, 6:07 pm, "catalpa" <cata...@entertab.org> wrote:
> >> What stops the customers from going to Aldi or Save A Lot?
>
> > Ain't the point. These Arab and Asian Indian food market operators
> > need to get their products from a wholesale
> > outfit not from Aldi and Save A Lot. What's the matter? Are they
> > afraid to stock only name brands and nonAldi
> > and nonSave A Lot authentic offbrand items?
>
> Why do they need to? Because you want them to?
No, Aldi and Save A Lot need to adapt a "No Dealers" policy. Is
all.
> How is this different than when The UPS Store sells stamps at a premium?
> You can go buy them at the regular post office for less, so by your rules
> The UPS Store should not be allowed to offer them.
UPS is not Arab/Asian Indian small markets.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 2:38 pm
From: BrotherSandMonkey
On Nov 12, 3:24 am, larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> More basic problem, they have no transportation and have to
> pay what the local stores charge. Pay to the store owner is
> good, being mostly state aid card or cash. Cost is not a
> real issue, since the locals are not paying for the goods
> anyhow. The taxpayer pays. The elderly also need a local
> store to survive, even good public transport can't get them
> to the malls and large shopping centers.
Sure, but they shouldn't stock Aldi and Save A Lot items, because
low income and elderly pay thru the
nose for what is worth and costs less. But Aldi and Save A Lot don't
stock Forty Bowls.
> I knew a family than ran a large chain of small "corner"
> stores in the poor parts of town. First thing every morning
> was a stop at the Sams and the bakery discount stores to
> stock their stores for the day.
Different. Unless Sams adapts a no dealers policy. The family
wasn't Arab or Asian Indian, huh?
> A law? Don't think for a minute that government can
> transport those goods to these neighborhoods as efficiently
> as the overpriced corner stores. If you want to help, and
> are near one of these neighborhoods, offer to shop the basic
> items a family needs, while you're shopping at your
> superstore. Most of the elderly are very isolated and five
> minutes of your time every other day may even save a life,
> and both of you benefit. Next time you're at the grocery
> store, behind a little old lady (or gent) with a small
> selection of basics, and digging out change to pay, tell the
> clerk to put it on your bill. That $5-10 will get you an
> elderly smile, and amazed clerk look, you will remember a
> long time.
I'm not talking about Name Brands; I'm talking Off Brand (Aldi and
Save A Lot are Off Brand, natch) products
at prices similar to Name Brands in the Same F**ing Sand Monkey/Third
World Monkey stores.
Hell. no other people wants to stay in a store all those long hours,
not even our African American friends have
the patience to run their own 'hood stores.
> Meals on wheels can only do so much.
Never said it did. But we're not talking them per se, our
elders.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 2:43 pm
From: BrotherSandMonkey
On Nov 12, 2:16 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I have seen limits on some loss-leaders in grocery stores before.
> However your original argument is very biased.
Fine, let it be biased to you. Malt liquor from those stores
doesn't help quality of life in those 'hoods, either.
Let alone ripping off the hooders with marked-up Aldi and Save A Lot
items; those clever sand monkeys.
The war we're dealing with is sand monkey-oriented too, sad.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 4:30 pm
From: clams casino
BrotherSandMonkey wrote:
>On Nov 11, 4:50 pm, clams casino <PeterGrif...@drunkin-clam.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>>BrotherSandMonkey wrote:
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>With a relative in the restaurant business, I can vouch that many items
>>at Sams, Costco, etc are cheaper than typical wholesalers.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>
>
> Not for dealers to buy. For the individual consumer.
>
>
>
Are you suggesting Sams, Costco, BJ's etc should forbid dealers /
retailers from buying at their locations?
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 6:30 pm
From: Logan Shaw
BrotherSandMonkey wrote:
> On Nov 11, 8:14 pm, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> BrotherSandMonkey wrote:
>>> On Nov 10, 6:07 pm, "catalpa" <cata...@entertab.org> wrote:
>>>> What stops the customers from going to Aldi or Save A Lot?
>>> Ain't the point. These Arab and Asian Indian food market operators
>>> need to get their products from a wholesale
>>> outfit not from Aldi and Save A Lot. What's the matter? Are they
>>> afraid to stock only name brands and nonAldi
>>> and nonSave A Lot authentic offbrand items?
>> Why do they need to? Because you want them to?
>
>
> No, Aldi and Save A Lot need to adapt a "No Dealers" policy. Is
> all.
Define "need". Who needs this? Why?
>> How is this different than when The UPS Store sells stamps at a premium?
>> You can go buy them at the regular post office for less, so by your rules
>> The UPS Store should not be allowed to offer them.
> UPS is not Arab/Asian Indian small markets.
The two most obvious interpretations of that are that you think:
(1) big corporations should be allowed to but small business shouldn't, or
(2) "American" businesses should be allowed to but ethnic ones shouldn't.
Since both of those are silly, hopefully you mean something else.
- Logan
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 2:29 pm
From: "The Henchman"
"clams casino" <PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote in message
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> George Grapman wrote:
>
>> Trivia question relating to this thread. Name the largest fast food
>> company in the world in terms of location and sales.
>> Hints: It is not McDonald's. The company is based in the U.S.
>
>
> probably KFC
If it's not KFC's parent Company Yum! then it's Subway Sandwiches or
Starbucks coffee. Both those place will NOT guarantee franchise territory
exclusives so they oversell their franchises.
McDonalds will protect territory thus buying a McDonald's franchise is far
far far far more profitable than a Sub shop or a KFC joint. McDonald's
will make far more money with far less locations than KFC or Subway or
Starbucks, whichever one of those is the largest int he world.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 2:44 pm
From: George Grapman
The Henchman wrote:
> "clams casino" <PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote in message
> news:EcB_i.3358$tK5.739@newsfe24.lga...
>> George Grapman wrote:
>>
>>> Trivia question relating to this thread. Name the largest fast food
>>> company in the world in terms of location and sales.
>>> Hints: It is not McDonald's. The company is based in the U.S.
>>
>> probably KFC
>
> If it's not KFC's parent Company Yum! then it's Subway Sandwiches or
> Starbucks coffee. Both those place will NOT guarantee franchise territory
> exclusives so they oversell their franchises.
>
> McDonalds will protect territory thus buying a McDonald's franchise is far
> far far far more profitable than a Sub shop or a KFC joint. McDonald's
> will make far more money with far less locations than KFC or Subway or
> Starbucks, whichever one of those is the largest int he world.
>
>
You are correct, it is Yum Brands which includes KFC,Pizza Hut and
Taco Bell.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 3:43 pm
From: Siskuwihane
On Nov 14, 9:56 am, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> George Grapman wrote:
> > clams casino wrote:
> >> George Grapman wrote:
>
> >>> Trivia question relating to this thread. Name the largest fast food
> >>> company in the world in terms of location and sales.
> >>> Hints: It is not McDonald's. The company is based in the U.S.
> >> probably KFC
> > You are partially correct.
>
> OK, then it'd be Yum! Brands, a/k/a KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, Long John
> Silver's, and A&W.
>
> Speaking of which, they opened an A&W or two here in Austin, Texas a
> few years ago, but they don't have actual frosted glass mugs for their
> root beer on tap like some of the A&W restaurants had in California when
> I lived there for a few years. I was a little disappointed, although I
> can understand the decision...
Both of the local (PA) LJS/A&W's have them.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 7:39 pm
From: Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG
In article <USK_i.20540$lD6.18849@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
sfgeorge@paccbell.net says...
> The Henchman wrote:
> > "clams casino" <PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote in message
> > news:EcB_i.3358$tK5.739@newsfe24.lga...
> >> George Grapman wrote:
> >>> Trivia question relating to this thread. Name the largest fast food
> >>> company in the world in terms of location and sales.
> >>> Hints: It is not McDonald's. The company is based in the U.S.
> >> probably KFC
> > If it's not KFC's parent Company Yum! then it's Subway Sandwiches or
> > Starbucks coffee. Both those place will NOT guarantee franchise territory
> > exclusives so they oversell their franchises.
> >
> > McDonalds will protect territory thus buying a McDonald's franchise is far
> > far far far more profitable than a Sub shop or a KFC joint. McDonald's
> > will make far more money with far less locations than KFC or Subway or
> > Starbucks, whichever one of those is the largest int he world.
> You are correct, it is Yum Brands which includes KFC, Pizza Hut
> and Taco Bell.
Random Factoid: In my semi-immediate area, there is a small row
of shops with THREE pizza joints, right next to each other. Two
are adjacent, with the other about four doors down. I think all
three deliver.
A Pizza Hut, a Domino's, and a home-grown brand called Hell.
Really - http://www.hell.co.nz
Guess which one (and only one) I have patronised, you sinner?
I cannot recall eating from KFC since I was a child, back when
they had those cardboard buckets, and it was called, "Kentucky
Fried Chicken." Same with Pizza Hut (but without buckets or
chicken.) Although I will admit to steering into some Taco Bell
drivethroughs, for their swill, numerous times, while
Californicating, years ago. Standard, youthful decadence, I
guess.
I haven't eaten from Subway (dry, white, fluffy, tasteless) in
years. And I am proud that I have never, ever, worshiped the
false god of Starbucks (cuz I'm too sophisticated for them.) I
would slurp the dregs of Brittney Spears' morning coffee, before
I would sink down to patronising a Starbucks.
These days, if I need fast food, I am more likely to walk into
some middle-eastern kebab place. Or spring for a gourmet burger.
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 7:31 pm
From: "Joe"
Thinking about how to make my commuter car more gas efficient... I don't
really use it for anything other than commuting so here are some ideas I had
without going TOO extreme...
1. Remove unnecessary parts that are heavy and lower mileage... Trunk rugs,
unneeded tools, electric window motors(?), floor mats, hub caps, etc.
Anything that is extra weight...
2. Make sure my air filter is clean and free-flowing. Thought about a K&N
high flow filter, but at almost $60.00, I don't think it will pay for itself
in the long run... Especially with FI.
3. Clean the throttle body on my car. At 160,000 miles, it's all messy
inside.
4. No jack rabbit starts or cruising overly fast. No heavy acceleration on
the highway to pass, etc.
Any other thoughts?
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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 8:28 pm
From: Logan Shaw
Joe wrote:
> Thinking about how to make my commuter car more gas efficient... I don't
> really use it for anything other than commuting so here are some ideas I had
> without going TOO extreme...
>
> 1. Remove unnecessary parts that are heavy and lower mileage... Trunk rugs,
> unneeded tools, electric window motors(?), floor mats, hub caps, etc.
> Anything that is extra weight...
I doubt trunk rugs or floor mats will make much difference. Electric window
motors will present a problem: without them in place, the windows will not
stay rolled up. If you do something to make them stay up without the motor,
that's not safe in case of a crash or similar. You could replace them with
a hand crank, but I don't know much weight you'd save.
You could probably safely remove the back seats, or front passenger seat,
or both.
You could fill up more often, but only fill the tank 2/3 of the way.
Gasoline seems to weigh about 6 lbs/gallon. Therefore, 10 gallons
weighs about 60 lbs.
> 2. Make sure my air filter is clean and free-flowing.
> 3. Clean the throttle body on my car.
Properly inflate the tires. Check them often.
Set the ignition timing. Set the fuel/air mixture. Or just do a full
tune-up.
If you're using an oil that's thicker than specs require, go with a
thinner one.
> 4. No jack rabbit starts or cruising overly fast. No heavy acceleration on
> the highway to pass, etc.
Use cruise control where it's safe to do so.
Coast, again only where safe.
Consider alternate routes. You might find a route that is less hilly,
or that has fewer stops. It's possible that one route takes slightly
more time but slightly less gas.
Consider commuting off hours. Go to work early. Or do a compressed
schedule (4 day work week with 10-hour days instead of 5 day week with
8-hour days).
After work, run errands (go to the bank, the grocery store, etc.) near
work instead of near home. Traffic will die down a little bit while
you're browsing around in the supermarket or whatever, and you won't
have to sit idling as much.
Speaking of which, turn off the car when stopped at a red light, if
the situation is right.
Carpool.
Bring your lunch instead of going out; you save money on fuel costs
this way.
Turn off air conditioning if you don't really need it.
- Logan
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 8:52 pm
From: "Don K"
"Joe" <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote in message
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> Thinking about how to make my commuter car more gas efficient... I don't really use it
> for anything other than commuting so here are some ideas I had without going TOO
> extreme...
>
> Any other thoughts?
Only drive the car downhill. Call AAA and have them tow it back up the hill.
If putting a brick in the toilet tank saves water, maybe putting one in the gas
tank will save gas.
If you work a 40 hour week, work 9 hours a day and take every other Friday off.
Don
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 9:02 pm
From: "Lee K"
"Joe" <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote in message
news:L4P_i.11140$VB6.7627@trnddc06...
> Thinking about how to make my commuter car more gas efficient... I don't
> really use it for anything other than commuting so here are some ideas I
> had without going TOO extreme...
>
> 1. Remove unnecessary parts that are heavy and lower mileage... Trunk
> rugs, unneeded tools, electric window motors(?), floor mats, hub caps,
> etc. Anything that is extra weight...
>
> 2. Make sure my air filter is clean and free-flowing. Thought about a K&N
> high flow filter, but at almost $60.00, I don't think it will pay for
> itself in the long run... Especially with FI.
>
> 3. Clean the throttle body on my car. At 160,000 miles, it's all messy
> inside.
>
> 4. No jack rabbit starts or cruising overly fast. No heavy acceleration
> on the highway to pass, etc.
>
> Any other thoughts?
>
> Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R
>
Best thing is remove the nut behind the wheel.
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