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* Bad Housekeeper needs tips. - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* Outrageous (operator assisted) phone charges - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Nuclear Crisis in Japan - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* May 21, 2011: JUDGMENT DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Bad Housekeeper needs tips.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/070aed9aa5fbdc1e?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 19 2011 5:03 pm
From: "Lou"
"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:im2nr3$19q$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Lou wrote:
> > It's hard to beat
> > ammonia, but use that only if you have good ventilation. NEVER mix
> > ammonia with a chlorine-containing product, the combination can give
> > off mustard gas with possibly fatal results.
>
> The combination gives off chlorine gas, not mustard gas.
>
Beats me. I found a few sites on the web that say the combination produces
mustard gas, sites that say it produces chlorine gas, sites that say it does
not produce mustard or chlorine gas but does produce chloramine gas.
Whatever the result, they all say the combination can be deadly.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 19 2011 6:12 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Lou wrote
> Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote
>> Lou wrote
>>> It's hard to beat ammonia, but use that only if you have good ventilation.
>>> NEVER mix ammonia with a chlorine-containing product, the combination
>>> can give off mustard gas with possibly fatal results.
>> The combination gives off chlorine gas, not mustard gas.
> Beats me.
Yes, it obviously did.
> I found a few sites on the web that say the combination produces mustard
> gas, sites that say it produces chlorine gas, sites that say it does not
> produce mustard or chlorine gas but does produce chloramine gas.
Just goes to show that you have to do more than just mindlessly
accept what someone says on the web.
It cant produce mustard gas, there is no sulfur thats needed for mustard gas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustard_gas
> Whatever the result, they all say the combination can be deadly.
Thats not necessarily correct either.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 19 2011 7:29 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article <8ul2k4Ff4hU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
Rod Speed once again wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for
dead
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TOPIC: Outrageous (operator assisted) phone charges
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e2bf0b6ebd705505?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 19 2011 5:31 pm
From: Bill Bowden
On Mar 18, 5:25 pm, Susan Bugher <sebug...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bill Bowden wrote:
> > Not having a long distance service, I recently made a 23 minute long
> > distance call (California to Texas) using operator assistance and was
> > billed a little over $60. The operator made no comment about the
> > charges at the time. I consulted AT&T costumer service about a credit
> > for being unaware of the high rates, but they said there was nothing
> > they could do. I could have purchased a prepaid phone including 5
> > hours of time for less than $40. But there was still nothing they
> > could do.
>
> Purchasing a prepaid phone card would be more frugal. This one has
> worked well for me:http://www.prepaidcall.com/Cards/clean.htm
> A $10 card gets you over 7 hours of time if your call is to the US/Canada.
>
> Susan
Yes, the convenience store next door sells several types of long
distance calling cards. The gal that works there recommended a $2 card
she uses to call Viet Nam. And my brother uses the internet and a web
cam to talk to relatives in other states. I knew these cheaper
services were available, but I didn't have time to research it. All I
wanted to do was wish my niece a happy birthday and figured it
wouldn't cost much to use the operator. I would have been happy with a
3 or 4 dollar charge, but I had no idea the rates would be almost $3 a
minute.
I spoke with an operator who explained they used to advise callers of
possible charges, but no longer do that, and it was the responsibility
of the caller to research the charges.
Thanks,
-Bill
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TOPIC: Nuclear Crisis in Japan
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 19 2011 6:35 pm
From: "HeyBub"
The Real Bev wrote:
> On 03/19/11 10:54, HeyBub wrote:
>
>> Aside from the fact than numerous pieces of a 757 were found inside
>> the Pentagon, if it was not a plane that hit the building, what does
>> your theory say regarding the present whereabouts of American
>> Airlines flight 77 and its 84 souls on board?
>>
>> The only plausible explanations are 1) It was whisked into the ether
>> by space aliens, or 2) Miraculously taken up to heaven by God and
>> the angles (much like Ezekiel).
>
> You didn't watch 'Lost', did you?
I tried, but it weirded me out too much.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 19 2011 11:47 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 03/19/11 18:35, HeyBub wrote:
> The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 03/19/11 10:54, HeyBub wrote:
>>
>>> Aside from the fact than numerous pieces of a 757 were found inside
>>> the Pentagon, if it was not a plane that hit the building, what does
>>> your theory say regarding the present whereabouts of American
>>> Airlines flight 77 and its 84 souls on board?
>>>
>>> The only plausible explanations are 1) It was whisked into the ether
>>> by space aliens, or 2) Miraculously taken up to heaven by God and
>>> the angles (much like Ezekiel).
>>
>> You didn't watch 'Lost', did you?
>
> I tried, but it weirded me out too much.
I watched the whole thing. I've NEVER wanted to slap a writer as much
as I did after the last episode!
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Cheers,
Bev
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TOPIC: May 21, 2011: JUDGMENT DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 19 2011 8:04 pm
From: "WLJ"
THE END OF THE WORLD IS ALMOST HERE!
HOLY GOD WILL BRING JUDGMENT DAY ON
MAY 21, 2011
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JUDGMENT DAY is feared by the world and is the day that God will destroy the world because of the sins of mankind. The world is correct in believing that Judgment Day will come. The Bible gives us the correct and accurate information about that Day.
The Bible is the Holy Book written by Holy God who is the Creator of this beautiful world. The Holy Bible is without question a very ancient book, having been completed about 1,900 years ago. In its original languages (mostly Hebrew and Greek) it has never been changed, and each and every word in the original languages is from the mouth of God. The Bible is divided into two parts (the Old Testament and the New Testament), with each part divided into many books. Each book is divided into chapters, and each chapter is divided into verses. One of the books is named Second Timothy (2 Timothy). In Chapter 3, verse 16 (2 Timothy 3:16) of this book Holy God tells us:
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
In Jeremiah 36:1-4 God gives an example of how the Bible was written:
And it came to pass in the fourth year of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah, that this word came unto Jeremiah from the LORD, saying, Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day. It may be that the house of Judah will hear all the evil which I purpose to do unto them; that they may return every man from his evil way; that I may forgive their iniquity and their sin. Then Jeremiah called Baruch the son of Neriah: and Baruch wrote from the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the LORD, which He had spoken unto him, upon a roll of a book [the roll of the book is the Bible].
Holy God is far, far greater than our human minds can even begin to explain or understand. In Genesis 1:1 God declares:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
The Holy Bible is a book written to us so that we can know that Holy God created this beautiful universe, including all of its plants and animals, birds and sea creatures, and mankind who was created to rule this earth. Indeed there is no being of any kind that can compare with Holy God, who simply by speaking brought every kind of plant, animal, sea creature, and mankind, sun, stars, etc., into existence. For example, Holy God tells us in His Holy Bible in Genesis 1:24-26:
And God said, let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
The people of the earth, which we call mankind, were created to rule over this earth. God gave laws by which we can live as happily and wisely as possible. He warns, however, that the breaking of those laws is sin, and sin will bring punishment from God. The Bible declares in Romans 6:23: For the wages of sin is death..
The Bible teaches there is only one God. The Bible says in Deuteronomy 4:39:
Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD He is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
Because God is so great and glorious He calls Himself by many different names. Each name tells us something about the glorious character and nature of God. Thus in the Bible we find such names as God, Jehovah, Christ, Jesus, Lord, Allah, Holy Spirit, Savior, etc. Names such as Jehovah, Jesus, Savior, and Christ particularly point to God as the only means by which forgiveness from all of our sins and eternal life can be obtained by God's merciful and glorious actions. For more information on this subject, you may request a free copy of I Hope God Will Save Me.
Many books have been written about the Bible, or are regarded as additions to the Bible, like the Koran or the Book of Mormon. But however old or prestigious or well- accepted as a holy book they may be, no book other than the Bible is written by God Himself, and is Holy as the Bible is Holy. God warns in Revelation 22:18:
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.
The word "plagues" in this verse refers to the punishment of death and destruction that will come upon all those who sin. The Bible teaches that even though God loves this world, which He in His infinite wisdom created, the law of God requires that those who sin must be punished by death. The Bible says in Ezekiel 18:20: The soul that sinneth, it shall die. In Romans 3:10 the Bible declares: There is none righteous [has not sinned], no, not one.
God must also obey His law and therefore, since all the people of the world are sinners, He finally must destroy the world. It is evident that sin in the world has become very great. The Bible warns in Jeremiah 25:33:
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.
However, the Holy Bible tells us that Holy God is a God of great mercy, compassion and love. That is why He has given us in advance of the destruction the exact time of the Day of Judgment. The Bible tells us in Amos 3:7:
Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but He revealeth his secret unto His servants the prophets.
Consequently we now can know from the Bible the exact time and many details of God's destruction plan that is to come upon the whole world.
While there is still time we can very humbly cry to God for His gracious mercy. Maybe, since God is such a merciful God, He might forgive someone who is humbly pleading with God for mercy. God promises for example in Zephaniah 2:3:
Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought His judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger.
Holy God demonstrates for us that He is completely able to bring destruction on this whole world because of sin. The Holy Bible informs us of this awesome fact in Genesis 6:12-13:
And God looked upon the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
By careful study of the Bible we learn that in the year 4990 B.C. (Before Christ) God brought a flood of water and destroyed the entire earth except for eight people and the animals that were with them. They were not destroyed because God brought them into the safety of the ark. Their leader, Noah, had obeyed God's command to build a huge boat, called an ark, about 450 feet (137 meters) long.
The Holy Bible tells us in Hebrews 11:7:
By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
Seven days before the beginning of the Flood that completely covered the entire earth, God commanded Noah to warn the peoples of the world that they had seven days to get into the safety of the ark. The Holy Bible tells us that on the 17th day of the 2nd month of that year God shut the door of the ark. Then, the Flood began to completely cover the entire earth.
About 5,000 years later God wrote in His Holy Bible in 2 Peter Chapter 3 about this worldwide destruction by water in the days of Noah. In the same chapter He also warned that the time would come when Holy God would destroy the whole world by fire. Our entire universe would be forever destroyed. In between these two declarations of worldwide destruction that would come because of sin God made a very important statement. God declared in 2 Peter 3:8:
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
God had written in the Holy Bible in Genesis 7:4:
For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
God added in Genesis 7:10-11:
And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the Flood were upon the earth. In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
The ark that Noah had built was the only place of safety from the destruction of the Flood. Likewise, God's gracious mercy is the only place of safety from the destruction that is coming on the Day of Judgment.
In 2 Peter 3:8, which is quoted above, Holy God reminds us that one day is as 1,000 years. Therefore, with the correct understanding that the seven days referred to in Genesis 7:4 can be understood as 7,000 years, we learn that when God told Noah there were seven days to escape worldwide destruction, He was also telling the world there would be exactly 7,000 years (one day is as 1,000 years) to escape the wrath of God that would come when He destroys the world on Judgment Day. Because Holy Infinite God is all-knowing, He knows the end from the beginning. He knew how sinful the world would become.
Seven thousand years after 4990 B.C. (the year of the Flood) is the year 2011 A.D. (our calendar).
4990 + 2011 - 1 = 7,000
[One year must be subtracted in going from an Old Testament B.C. calendar date to a New Testament A.D. calendar date because the calendar does not have a year zero.]
Thus Holy God is showing us by the words of 2 Peter 3:8 that He wants us to know that exactly 7,000 years after He destroyed the world with water in Noah's day, He plans to destroy the entire world forever. Because the year 2011 A.D. is exactly 7,000 years after 4990 B.C. when the flood began, the Bible has given us absolute proof that the year 2011 is the end of the world during the Day of Judgment, which will come on the last day of the Day of Judgment.
Amazingly, May 21, 2011 is the 17th day of the 2nd month of the Biblical calendar of our day. Remember, the flood waters also began on the 17th day of the 2nd month, in the year 4990 B.C.
The Holy Bible gives several additional astounding proofs that May 21, 2011 is very accurate as the time for the Day of Judgment. For more information on this subject, you may request a copy of We Are Almost There, available free of charge from Family Radio.
God is proving to us that we have very accurately learned from the Holy Bible God's time-plan for the end of the world.
GOD'S SUBLIME MERCY AND COMPASSION
God in His Holy Bible has given us a beautiful example of His compassionate mercy. Included in the Holy Bible is the book called Jonah. In it God tells of a very wicked city with a population of more than 120,000 people that existed about 2,800 years ago. It was called Nineveh, which was a capital city of the nation of Assyria that knew nothing of the Bible. But because of its wickedness and because Holy God is merciful, He sent a prophet named Jonah to that city. Jonah's message from God to them was that in 40 days the whole city was to be destroyed.
The whole city correctly believed with all their hearts that this warning was from Holy God. Thus from the king on down to the lowest servant they repented, which means they turned away from their sins and their pride. The Holy Bible tells us that they sat in sackcloth and ashes. This meant that they fully realized that because of their sins they had dreadfully shamed God. To put on sackcloth and ashes was an act of supreme humility to show in the clearest way to God and to all of the people how greatly they were humbled by their sins against Holy God. It showed that they knew that they fully deserved that God should destroy them because of their sin.
But maybe, there was hope that Holy God might change His mind and instead have mercy on them. The Bible tells us in Jonah 3:6-9:
For the word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water: But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands. Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
In answer to their complete humility we read of God's fabulous, incomprehensible mercy toward these extremely wicked people. God tells us in Jonah 3:10:
And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that He had said that He would do unto them; and He did it not.
Because this entire wicked city of Nineveh turned from their evil ways and with great humility cried to God for mercy, Holy God did change His mind and did not destroy them.
Sadly, the Holy Bible tells us that only a small percentage of today's world will turn from their evil ways, and with great humility and fear will cry to God for mercy. Nevertheless, the Bible assures us that many of the people who do beg God for His mercy will not be destroyed. We learn from the Bible that Holy God plans to rescue about 200 million people (that is about 3% of today's population). On the first day of the Day of Judgment (May 21, 2011) they will be caught up (raptured) into Heaven because God had great mercy for them. This is why we can be so thankful that God has given us advance notice of Judgment Day. Because God is so merciful, maybe He will have mercy on you. The Holy Bible says in Psalm 51:17:
The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
And in Psalm 51:1-3 Holy God shows us the attitude we ought to have as we pray for His mercy:
Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions. Wash me thoroughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me.
Sadly, you can't turn to your religion or go to your priest or pastor or spiritual leader for help. They, too, should be begging God for mercy for themselves. This is a matter only between you and Holy God. God knows every one of your thoughts, words, and actions. Turn away from your sins and humbly beg, beseech, and implore God for forgiveness.
And, thank God that in His great mercy He has given you this warning of the destruction that is almost here, and the great hope that you, too, might be one whom God will bring to Heaven to be with God forevermore in the highest happiness and joy and glory. Holy God in the Holy Bible teaches us in Luke 18:10-14:
Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
May God have mercy on you as He did on this publican. Click Here to read more materials regarding the knowledge of the last day.
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Audios concerning worldwide warning:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kshwp5JzaQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRTod27y-zk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmcaKUG5ohI
For summary of some Biblical research, click on "Assembling the Timeline" (bottom
of webpage): http://areyouwatchingorsleeping.com/charts.html
Timeline of History http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/sunday_bible_study/2005.10.09_McOwen.htm
Years BC
Gen 5:3 Adam created 130 (lifespan) 11013
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Gen. 5:6 & Gen. 4:26 Seth 105
5:11 Enos 905
5:14 Cainan 910
5:17 Mahalaleel 895
5:20 Jared 962
5:21-23 Enoch 65
5:25-27 Methuselah 969
v. 28 Lamech 182
7:6 The Flood: Noah was 600
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6,023 4,990 BC = 931 BC + 1,236 + 2,823
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Gen. 11 v. 10,11 Shem 502 (from flood)
v. 12,13 Arphaxad 438
v. 14,15 Salah 433
v. 16,17 Eber 464
v. 18,19 Peleg 239
v. 20,21 Reu 239
v. 22,23 Serug 230
v. 24,25 Nahor 148
v. 26-32 Terah 130 [Abraham born: Gen. 12:4 (205-75=130)]
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2,823 = 2,167 BC
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Gen. 21:5 Abraham 100 (Isaac born)
Gen. 25:26 Isaac 60 (Jacob born)
Gen. 47: 1,9 Jacob 130 (into Egypt)
Ex. 12: 40,41 Exodus 430
I Kings 6:1 Solomon's Temple 480 (4th yr. of Solomon's reign)
I Kings 11:42,43 Solomon dies 36
1,236 = 931 BC (all archeology agrees on 931 BC for Solomon's death and division of kingdom)
Conclusion: 931 BC + 1,236 + 2,823 + 6,023 = 11,013 BC (Creation)
Daniel 12 (KJV):
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Matthew 24: 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
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