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TOPIC: Sleazy Wall Steet/Chamber of Commerce bloats tout offshore drilling.
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 19 2008 11:03 pm
From: "Clave"
<Video61@tcq.net> wrote in message
news:f840a28f-6dc3-4ffe-88eb-1f5ce402a1f4@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 19, 11:14 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>> > On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>> >> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>> >>> we know they are sitting on untapped oil, shill.
>> >> At Gull Island, right...conspiracy KOOK!
>>
>> > the non drilling of millions of acres,
>>
>> Do you have some independent data sources or corroborative urls to back
>> up what that guy said?
>>
>> I mean, really, just go for it, put them here:______________________.
>
> then, why have the cons not called the democrats out when they stated
> it? the democrats announced that charge right in front of the whole
> world. so, refute it. also refute the oil companies statements that
> they do not even have the resources to develop what they already have
> leased, yet, they are wanting more, eh, shill.
That's our Spammy. Changes nyms daily, thinks it keeps her out of
killfiles.
Here's all you need to know about her:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crapflooding
HTH,
Jim
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 8:37 am
From: Video61@tcq.net
On Jun 20, 1:03 am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
wrote:
> <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote in message
>
> news:f840a28f-6dc3-4ffe-88eb-1f5ce402a1f4@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 19, 11:14 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >> > On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >> >> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >> >>> we know they are sitting on untapped oil, shill.
> >> >> At Gull Island, right...conspiracy KOOK!
>
> >> > the non drilling of millions of acres,
>
> >> Do you have some independent data sources or corroborative urls to back
> >> up what that guy said?
>
> >> I mean, really, just go for it, put them here:______________________.
>
> > then, why have the cons not called the democrats out when they stated
> > it? the democrats announced that charge right in front of the whole
> > world. so, refute it. also refute the oil companies statements that
> > they do not even have the resources to develop what they already have
> > leased, yet, they are wanting more, eh, shill.
>
> That's our Spammy. Changes nyms daily, thinks it keeps her out of
> killfiles.
>
> Here's all you need to know about her:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crapflooding
>
> HTH,
> Jim
yea, i have seen the creep all over the net for years. insults will
not replace reality. you would think a butterfly net would have
snagged her by now:)
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 11:32 am
From: yedyegiss
Video61@tcq.net wrote:
> On Jun 20, 1:03 am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> wrote:
>
>>That's our Spammy. Changes nyms daily, thinks it keeps her out of
>>killfiles.
>>
>>Here's all you need to know about her:
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crapflooding
>>
> yea, i have seen the creep all over the net for years. insults will
> not replace reality. you would think a butterfly net would have
> snagged her by now:)
You don't use a butterfly net to flush shit down the toilet, so that's
probably why it hasn't worked yet.
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 11:56 am
From: edelbrock
Video61@tcq.net wrote:
> On Jun 19, 11:14 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>> we know they are sitting on untapped oil, shill.
>>>> At Gull Island, right...conspiracy KOOK!
>>> the non drilling of millions of acres,
>> Do you have some independent data sources or corroborative urls to back
>> up what that guy said?
>>
>> I mean, really, just go for it, put them here:______________________.
>
> then, why have the cons
That would be NO CITE, NO EVIDENCE, NOTHING at all.
As predicted.
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 11:56 am
From: edelbrock
Clave wrote:
> <Video61@tcq.net> wrote in message
> news:f840a28f-6dc3-4ffe-88eb-1f5ce402a1f4@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 19, 11:14 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>> we know they are sitting on untapped oil, shill.
>>>>> At Gull Island, right...conspiracy KOOK!
>>>> the non drilling of millions of acres,
>>> Do you have some independent data sources or corroborative urls to back
>>> up what that guy said?
>>>
>>> I mean, really, just go for it, put them here:______________________.
>> then, why have the cons not called the democrats out when they stated
>> it? the democrats announced that charge right in front of the whole
>> world. so, refute it. also refute the oil companies statements that
>> they do not even have the resources to develop what they already have
>> leased, yet, they are wanting more, eh, shill.
>
> That's our Spammy. Changes nyms daily, thinks it keeps her out of
> killfiles.
There's our clam, nothing substantive to say, lives in killfiles.
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 11:56 am
From: edelbrock
Video61@tcq.net wrote:
> On Jun 20, 1:03 am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> wrote:
>> <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:f840a28f-6dc3-4ffe-88eb-1f5ce402a1f4@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 19, 11:14 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>> we know they are sitting on untapped oil, shill.
>>>>>> At Gull Island, right...conspiracy KOOK!
>>>>> the non drilling of millions of acres,
>>>> Do you have some independent data sources or corroborative urls to back
>>>> up what that guy said?
>>>> I mean, really, just go for it, put them here:______________________.
>>> then, why have the cons not called the democrats out when they stated
>>> it? the democrats announced that charge right in front of the whole
>>> world. so, refute it. also refute the oil companies statements that
>>> they do not even have the resources to develop what they already have
>>> leased, yet, they are wanting more, eh, shill.
>> That's our Spammy. Changes nyms daily, thinks it keeps her out of
>> killfiles.
>>
>> Here's all you need to know about her:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crapflooding
>>
>> HTH,
>> Jim
>
> yea, i have seen the creep all over the net for years. insults will
> not replace reality.
Yet when pressed for facts and cites you folded like a cheap card table,
you motherfucking lying piece of shit.
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 11:56 am
From: edelbrock
Video61@tcq.net wrote:
> On Jun 19, 11:15 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 19, 5:29 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 1:01 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 12:38 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:22:15 -0700, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:25:13 -0700, "Clave"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are no Chinese rigs drilling on the Cuba side of the Florida
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strait according people in our government. But there is some truth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to your MIMBY prosecution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You believe our government? There's your problem right there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The U.S. Congress has voted consistently to keep 85% of America's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offshore oil and gas off-limits, while China and Cuba drill 60 miles from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Key West, Fla. The U.S. Minerals Management Service says that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restricted areas contain 86 billion barrels of oil and 420 trillion cubic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feet of natural gas."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20080609/bs_ibd_ibd/20080609issues01
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's an unsourced op-ed, and it's full of shit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/40776.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet no one can prove that the Chinese are drilling anywhere off Cuba's
>>>>>>>>>>>> shoreline. The China-Cuba connection is "akin to urban legend," said
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sen. Mel Martinez, a Republican from Florida who opposes drilling off
>>>>>>>>>>>> the coast of his state but who backs exploration in ANWR.
>>>>>>>>>>>> "China is not drilling in Cuba's Gulf of Mexico waters, period," said
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jorge Pinon, an energy fellow with the Center for Hemispheric Policy
>>>>>>>>>>>> at the University of Miami and an expert in oil exploration in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gulf of Mexico. Martinez cited Pinon's research when he took to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate floor Wednesday to set the record straight.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Even so, the Chinese-drilling-in-Cuba legend has gained momentum and
>>>>>>>>>>>> has been swept up in Republican arguments to open up more U.S.
>>>>>>>>>>>> territory to domestic production.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Dick Cheney, in a speech Wednesday to the U.S. Chamber
>>>>>>>>>>>> of Commerce, picked up the refrain. Cheney quoted a column by George
>>>>>>>>>>>> Will, who wrote last week that "drilling is under way 60 miles off
>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida. The drilling is being done by China, in cooperation with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cuba, which is drilling closer to South Florida than U.S. companies
>>>>>>>>>>>> are."
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Congress should haul Cheney's but in front of a committee and
>>>>>>>>>>>> roast him for lying again. These grandiose lies serve as a great
>>>>>>>>>>>> entre to hold up how much he personally is liable for lying us into
>>>>>>>>>>>> Iraq. he repeatedly told lies on the Sunday talking heads programs
>>>>>>>>>>>> even after the intelligence agencies told him thy were lies.
>>>>>>>>>>> LOL. Seems Cheney realized his liability and "corrected" it.
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/china_starts_oil_drilling.html
>>>>>>>>>> The Chinese have forged a deal with Cuban leader Fidel Castro to explore
>>>>>>>>>> and tap into massive oil reserves almost within sight of Key West,
>>>>>>>>>> Florida. At the same time, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who
>>>>>>>>>> controls the largest oil reserves in the Western Hemisphere, is making
>>>>>>>>>> deals to sell his country?s oil to China, oil that is currently coming
>>>>>>>>>> to the United States.
>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, a new left-wing populist regime in Bolivia has nationalized
>>>>>>>>>> the natural gas industry, threatening to cut off supplies to the United
>>>>>>>>>> States.
>>>>>>>>>> SLANT DRILLING
>>>>>>>>>> There are new reports out circulating that Chinese firms are planning to
>>>>>>>>>> slant drill off the Cuban coast near the Florida Straits, tapping into
>>>>>>>>>> U.S. oil reserves that are estimated at 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels.
>>>>>>>>>> China is eager to tap into oil reserves in the Florida Straits and then
>>>>>>>>>> make a deal with Castro to control it. The Chinese have already reopened
>>>>>>>>>> an abandoned Russian oil refinery in Cuba. Much of the gas refined there
>>>>>>>>>> is believed to be destined for Freeport in the Bahamas, where the
>>>>>>>>>> Chinese, through front company Hutchison-Whampoa, has developed a
>>>>>>>>>> massive port facility and airfield.
>>>>>>>>>> With the refinery reopened and expanded it will also meet the needs of
>>>>>>>>>> Castro.
>>>>>>>>>> Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) has introduced legislation to ease U.S.
>>>>>>>>>> restrictions that prevent dealing with Cuba to drill in the Florida
>>>>>>>>>> Straits. It is hoped that Florida regulations that prevent U.S. oil
>>>>>>>>>> drilling off the state?s coasts could also be eased.
>>>>>>>>> now there is a name that you can count on to be truthful,
>>>>>>>> No factual rebuttal, thanks for taking the bait- hook,line and sinker.
>>>>>>>> You stupid piece of shit.
>>>>>>> http://www.boiseweekly.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A156914
>>>>>>> Lifetime achievement
>>>>>>> This year's Lifetime Achievement Dud goes to part-time senator/full-
>>>>>>> time special interest shill Larry Craig,
>>>>>> That's it?
>>>>>> You took the bait hook line and sinker!
>>>>>> You moron.
>>>>> if you think larry is honest,
>>>> Can you refute the legislation introduced?
>>>> No?
>>>> Then STFU.
>>> they should be forced into
>> SHADDUP ASSHOLE!
>
> snicker!
DROP DAMNED DEAD YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 12:44 am
From: Jack Bauer
AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> http://www.freedomworks.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=2571
>
FreedomWorks appears to a bit right wing. Here's one of their positions
statements:
4. A healthy environment can not exist without a healthy economy.
Excuse me! Didn't the Earth have a healthy environment before humans
came along?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 9:43 am
From: Dennis
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:44:03 -0700, Jack Bauer <jb@nowhere.com> wrote:
>FreedomWorks appears to a bit right wing. Here's one of their positions
>statements:
>
>4. A healthy environment can not exist without a healthy economy.
>
>Excuse me! Didn't the Earth have a healthy environment before humans
>came along?
Ask the dinosaurs. Oh wait...
Dennis (evil)
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TOPIC: Water 4 Gas
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 3:19 am
From: max
In article <ZvudnbPtY8T9pcbVnZ2dnUVZ_qzinZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"Bob" <ma@trix.net> wrote:
> "max" :
> > In article <ESC6k.2868$ul.2255@trndny08>, "Lou" <lpogoda@verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "Nicik Name" :
> >> > In simple words, this technology involves putting together home-made
> >> > devices that use a little electricity out of your car's battery to
> >> > separate water into a gas called HHO (2 Hydrogen + 1 Oxygen). HHO,
> >> > also known as Hydrogen*OxygenT or Hydroxy, burns beautifully and by so
> >> > doing provides TONS of energy.
> >>
> >> Burning this stuff can provide no more energy than that supplied by the
> >> battery to break down the water. And the battery in turn is charged by
> >> the
> >> car's engine, which is powered by gasoline. And because no process is
> >> 100%
> >> efficient, what you can get out at the end is less than you put in at the
> >> beginning.
> >>
> >> In short, this is a losing proposition.
> >
> > not to mention that HHO is about the definition of explosive gas.
> > Frankly, anyone STUPID enough to screw around with this system under the
> > foolish belief it's going to save them gas is likely to have a bad
> > accident.
> >
> > Even better is the fact that a hydrogen flame radiates in the UV, not
> > the visible spectrum. You can't see a hydrogen flame. (look at the space
> > shuttle main engines (not the SRBs) sometime) Great way to get hurt or
> > sunburned or blown up. Stoichiometric Hydrogen/oxygen (H2O) is
> > literally the reference for fuel-air explosive gas mixtures.
> >
>
> HHO increases mileage simply because an automobile is only about 20-30%
> efficient.
Your next assignment is to make a logical connection between the
elements of the sentence above.
This is like saying Nutrasweet is sweet bacause Lawry's is so salty...
First of all, any expansion engine, regardless of fuel type, combustion
type, or expansion type is going to be about the same, give or take.
It's called the Carnot efficiency, and there's a hard limit on it.
Doesn't matter if you've got a nuclear power plant, or a jet engine or a
gasoline/diesel/hydrogen engine. ULtimately you have to get the energy
out of your system through mechanical means, and there an inviolate
thermodynamic limit to how much of that energy you can harness.
Now, as regards chemical energy. Big Deal. Chemical fuels have varying
amounts of energy in them. But, except for fossil hydrocarbons and
biofuel, we have to put the energy into those fuels in the first place
to make them into fuels. water is not a fuel. Water is ash. It is the
lowest possible energy, most worn-out endpoint for Hydrogen and Oxygen
by them selves. You can get even more energy out of water using
reactive materials such as reactive metals, but the byproducts are scary
and you have to put a great deal of energy into making the reactive
metals, so you still lose.
HH0 in and of itself is a great energy _STORAGE_ medium. Just like a
spring is a great mechanical energy storage device. But a spring is not
fuel. It takes power to wind a spring. So, too, does it take power to
rip up water into HHO.
If you want to do it with electricity from your house, feel free --
you've invented a more dangerous version of the plug-in electric hybrid;
maybe it will save you money over plain old gas, i am unintersted in
running the math, but i'm skeptical you'll save any money, although i
suppose it might be possible, since energy costs are tared out
diferently between gasoline/diesel and electricity.
But if yo try to manufacture HHO from power onboard your car, with power
coming from your gasoline tank... well... you be sure to take a few
tankfuls of data before you start fucking around so you can come back
and show us all how much better mileage you get. Because to get better
mileage from an HH0 onboard system, your hydrogen liberation would have
to be more than 100% efficient and it ain't gonna happen. Of course,
make sure to measure all your other engine parameters too. But
especially miles/gallon over a few tanks.
And if your water cracker is more than 100% efficient, you, sir, will be
going to Stockholm and claiming your nobel prize for overturning the
First Law of Thermodynamics and single handedly solving all of
humanity's energy problems for all time. We'll have rocket ships to
Alpha Centauri in 50 years, traveling at .9c because of you. Cities
floating among the clouds just like in Star Wars.
So go for it.
> If you guys had actually looked on the net at the thousands of people
> who've already done this modification (getting 20-50% more mileage), would
> you still be advertising your ignorance so blatantly?
> Besides modifying the antiquated, inefficient internal combustion engine,
> HHO is being used to power efficient welding torches. The flame is very hot,
> but the unique property of the flame is such that the torch head stays cool.
sigh. bang. head. on. wall.
>
> There are many web sites providing free information along with their kits.
> Simple searches turn up many hits. If you're not handy with tools, and pay
> someone to do simple things like change the oil, well.. you pay for your
> ignorance and incompetence. But that can change. The more you do, the more
> you can do.
There are also a great many websites proving that we never landed on the
moon, that BigFoot is the daughter of the Loch Ness Monster, that
growing marijuana is the key to world hunger, Barack Obama is the
AntiChrist, George Bush is the Anti Christ, HIllary is The Anti Christ,
Atlantis is actually in the Carribean next to the bermuda triangle and
frogs live in blenders singing songs.
Just because some throbbing forehead moron with a web cam took pictures
of his engine compartment and some copper tubing does not mean his POS
is working as claimed.
>
> I drive barely 100 miles per week. But may soon try this modification just
> for fun. The problems may be: the vehicle's computer may not be "smart"
> enough to adjust to the correct air/fuel mix. And there will be more
> condensation precipitate, perhaps corroding valves and such faster.
So try your stunt with a lawnmower first before you trash your car. If
you can't make it work with a lawnmower that should be a warning sign
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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 9:08 am
From: "Bob"
"max" :
> "Bob" wrote:
>> ...
>> HHO increases mileage simply because an automobile is only about 20-30%
>> efficient.
>
> Your next assignment is to make a logical connection between the
> elements of the sentence above.
Your next assignment is to quit acting like a pedantic grade school
teacher who doesn't know anything outside his limited range of experience.
> This is like saying Nutrasweet is sweet bacause Lawry's is so salty...
You probably were serious about this statement, but I found it Really funny.
>...
(Remaining pomposity snipped)
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 11:33 am
From: max
In article <0sednTrXCs2RS8bVnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"Bob" <ma@trix.net> wrote:
> "max" :
> > "Bob" wrote:
> >> ...
> >> HHO increases mileage simply because an automobile is only about 20-30%
> >> efficient.
> >
> > Your next assignment is to make a logical connection between the
> > elements of the sentence above.
>
> Your next assignment is to quit acting like a pedantic grade school
> teacher who doesn't know anything outside his limited range of experience.
>
>
> > This is like saying Nutrasweet is sweet bacause Lawry's is so salty...
>
> You probably were serious about this statement, but I found it Really funny.
>
> >...
> (Remaining pomposity snipped)
ah, the barking dog retreat.
of course, i'd be happy to go toe to toe with you on experience in any
germane field.
I'll go first. Hows about hydrogen? look up 15' bubble chamber,
hydrogen, cryogenic.
<http://www.google.com/search?q=15+foot+bubble+chamber+hydrogen>
My baby. worked on it plenty. Full of liquid hydrogen. This system
required several giant compressors, explosion proof everything, UV flame
detectors, and blow-out walls. Prominently displayed near the control
room was a chart of calculated worst-case overpressures should it ever
blow.
now about that grade school pedantry...
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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 2:32 pm
From: max
In article <0sednTrXCs2RS8bVnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"Bob" <ma@trix.net> wrote:
> "max" :
> > "Bob" wrote:
> >> ...
> >> HHO increases mileage simply because an automobile is only about 20-30%
> >> efficient.
> >
> > Your next assignment is to make a logical connection between the
> > elements of the sentence above.
>
> Your next assignment is to quit acting like a pedantic grade school
> teacher who doesn't know anything outside his limited range of experience.
gosh, i almost forgot, because it was so long ago. Almost 3 decades ...
see, i've _actually_ done the experiment. I used to use my very own
highly enriched U235 reactor to split water and fed the resultant gases
into a pair of diesel engines. Did it myself, regularly. Even wrote
down the data.
Yep, i got about 3% more power out of the diesels. Sad to say, but that
3% gain was grossly outpaced by the reactor power necessary for
hydrolysis.
So... my "limited" experience is exactly congruous with the topic at
hand. I've run hydrocarbon ICE's on an HHO boost. I know _exactly_ what
happens.
.max
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 4:38 am
From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu
max <betatron@earthlink.net> wrote:
>The Colonel, may God bless him, weeps in heaven.
He didn't like what they did to the food after he sold the company, ranting
"Garbage!" and dumping containers of sauce on the floor in restaurant visits.
Nick
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 4:32 am
From: Siskuwihane
On Jun 20, 12:58 am, Zuke <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, George Grapman wrote:
> > clams_casino wrote:
> >> Cheapo Groovo wrote:
>
> >>> Hopefully someone likes KFC out there!
>
> >> Almost as much as I like Olive Garden for authenic Itlaian and Red Lobster
> >> for the freshest seafood.
> > Interestingly enough those two share the same parent company.
> > Anyone remember when KFC was Kentucky Fried Chicken and it was edible?
>
> Around here they combined a KFC and Taco Bell into one
> establishment. One of the high points of the 20th Century.
We have a Pizza Hut in with KFC/Taco Bell, locals refer to it as
"Katacohut".
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 5:27 am
From: Vic Smith
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:26:27 -0700, George Grapman
<sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote:
>clams_casino wrote:
>> Cheapo Groovo wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hopefully someone likes KFC out there!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Almost as much as I like Olive Garden for authenic Itlaian and Red
>> Lobster for the freshest seafood.
> Interestingly enough those two share the same parent company.
> Anyone remember when KFC was Kentucky Fried Chicken and it was edible?
Yeah, now. Before it was soggy. I never bought it, preferring
Brown's or Popeyes. I still prefer them, but KFC is better than it
was when the Colonel was serving it soggy. Better to have it crispy,
so you don't see all that grease.
Matter of taste. My grandma made better fried chicken then any of
them. They're all "fast food" so I limit the Popeyes visits to maybe
3 times a year.
McDonalds, Burger King, and all the other fast food places are in the
once every 60 year bucket, starting about 15 years ago. I'm 61, and
really looking forward to my next visit.
--Vic
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TOPIC: You won;t believe this!
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 6:11 am
From: afterapril@gmail.com
http://www.moreniche.com/join.html?w=131686&ttp=3
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 7:40 am
From: Al Bundy
On Jun 20, 9:11 am, afterap...@gmail.com wrote:
> http://www.moreniche.com/join.html?w=131686&ttp=3
When I saw the word "join" and "niche" in the URL, I knew there was
nothing to believe.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 7:45 am
From: George Grapman
Al Bundy wrote:
> On Jun 20, 9:11 am, afterap...@gmail.com wrote:
>> http://www.moreniche.com/join.html?w=131686&ttp=3
>
> When I saw the word "join" and "niche" in the URL, I knew there was
> nothing to believe.
But they have credibility because they posted from gmail.
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TOPIC: How to re-program car remotes
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6dcc4ba7e27a87b5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 6:24 am
From: Shawn Hirn
In article
<8f6a65b9-643f-4b5c-8a94-a1b14cdaaaec@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Bebe <BbNuke@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 3:33 pm, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 19, 9:12 am, Bebe <BbN...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 18, 1:52 pm, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Hello All:
> >
> > > > I am about to purchase a Chevrolet remote for the doors to replace my
> > > > broken one.
> >
> > > > How do I program it to work with my door? Do I go to the dealer? Can a
> > > > lock smith do it?
> >
> > > > Thanks
> >
> > > > Deguza
> >
> > > Where are you purchasing it?
> > > Bebe
> >
> > From a friend. His truck is totaled so he has a unit he does not need
> > any more.
> >
> > Deguza- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Well, when mine stopped working, I took it to the dealership where I
> bought the truck. They fixed it for me for free. I would suggest
> calling a local Chevy dealer and inquiring about getting one
> programmed for your vehicle. Good Luck!
Right. Usually, its a simple matter of replacing a battery in the key
fob.
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TOPIC: Would you tip this person?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1737a3480cc643dc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 7:15 am
From: Peter Bruells
George Grapman <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> writes:
> Peter Bruells wrote:
>> George Grapman <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> writes:
>>
>>> Peter Bruells wrote:
>>>> George Grapman <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> If they go to a hotel the people at the hotel will take the
>>>>> luggage. Driver tells them they are bad tippers. Guests wonder why
>>>>> room service is so slow.
>>>> Because it's a self-fulfilling prophecy?
>>>
>>> What happened was the doorman and the bellhops let word get out
>>> that the people in 1528 are bad tippers. In the morning room service
>>> id backed up with orders. Guess which room goes on the bottom of the
>>> list.
>>
>> Those *believed* to be bad tippers.
>
> When a skycap or a doorman loaded luggage into my cab and told me
> the customers were cheap I had no reason not to believe them.
Person you know and whose judgement you know can trust,
yes. Otherwise, no. Not tipping can be justified. I've had downright
grumpy drivers and bellboy who told racist jokes - damn sure I don't
tip them, regardless of what they might tell their colleagues.
>> Now, how much trust do you put into the words of such fraudulent
>> cheats?
>
> Enough to know that there used to be a free weekly marketed to cab
> drivers which carried reports of disciplinary actions taken against
> drivers by the police bureau that regulated taxis. They would read
> something like this:
>
> William H.-License suspended three days for overcharging customer
> on fare from JFK to mid-town. Complaint noted that driver too the Belt
> Parkway.
Ah yes, and when William H. tells you, that customer X is a bad
tipper, you believe him?
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TOPIC: Old suck-ass John speaks to hispanic gathering.
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 7:47 am
From: billimmelman@yahoo.com
On Jun 20, 7:42 am, billimmel...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080620/D91DI6LO0.html
>
> Whata piece of feces!
>
> bill
>
> http://www.wvwnews.net/ Western Voices World News
Now the creep is talking about offshore drillin for oil! Takes 10
years but the old bastard
wants to keep and add to the 12-20 million energy consuming illegal
aliens.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 10:37 am
From: wismel@yahoo.com
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:47:47 -0700 (PDT), billimmelman@yahoo.com
wrote:
>On Jun 20, 7:42 am, billimmel...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080620/D91DI6LO0.html
>>
>> Whata piece of feces!
>>
>> bill
>>
>> http://www.wvwnews.net/ Western Voices World News
>
>
>Now the creep is talking about offshore drillin for oil! Takes 10
>years but the old bastard
>wants to keep and add to the 12-20 million energy consuming illegal
>aliens.
Stop refering to race-traitor McCain as an old bastard. There are some
good old bastards.
ted
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 1:00 pm
From: Al Bundy
wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:47:47 -0700 (PDT), billimmelman@yahoo.com
> wrote:
>
> >On Jun 20, 7:42�am, billimmel...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080620/D91DI6LO0.html
> >>
> >> Whata piece of feces!
> >>
> >> bill
> >
> >
> >Now the creep is talking about offshore drillin for oil! Takes 10
> >years but the old bastard
> >wants to keep and add to the 12-20 million energy consuming illegal
> >aliens.
>
> Stop refering to race-traitor McCain as an old bastard. There are some
> good old bastards.
>
> ted
And at least he has a rich wife. True, he will be dead before any of
his energy ideas come to fruition.
I liked his slip the other day when he said. "I voted for that
beer...uh bill."
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TOPIC: run yo car on Water?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 11:39 am
From: Sev
On Jun 20, 12:56�am, Zuke <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, Ian S. Salisbury wrote:
> > Derald wrote:
> >> JonL <J...@Mayday.com> wrote:
>
> >>> It works in Japan:
> >> � � � �No, it doesn't.
>
> > Yes, it does :)
> > But it works less efficiently than tossing the fuel cell and using the same
> > amount of electricity to charge up a couple batteries.
>
> I was watching the Beverly Hillbilly's today and Jethro had built
> a car that ran on water and it was running beautifully. �Then he
> switched to gas and it broke down. �Turned out he had put the valve
> in backwards and actually it was the water that broke down.
>
> Those Clampett's were ahead of their time.
They're all going about it the wrong way. The key is to get back to
that medieval technology, the water wheel. See, your passenger dips
into a tank with a ladle, pours it on, and off you go. Works equally
well in reverse.
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