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TOPIC: Should America Euthanize the Old People and Homeless?
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== 1 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 5:24 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Harry Brogan" <hbroganjr@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:ncc3m659dhebro68bstmk7ok466vd9q6s8@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 16:55:54 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> wrote:
[...]
>>I have no insurance at all for anything - period! Why? Because they are
>>all
>>crooks. You literally have to sue to get anything out of them.
[...]
> It's been a long road for this one. I didn't get a check for amost
> two months. Put me behind in everything and we ended up being forced
> to move as we were upside down in all bills. Just now getting caught
> up.
>
> Now my shoulder is acting up and, again, they are trying to screw me
> over. But, the advantage I have is twofold. One is the FACT that
> they have lost in the compensation court and, Two, I have a decent
> lawyer that's taking care of it. Still have to wait for the cash flow
> to start again though and THAT sucks.
>
> Overall, things haven't been all that bad. But I would rather be
> working than sitting around trying to figure out things to do. Thank
> goodness for the computer!!!!
>
> If you travel at all I would NOT suggest a stay at any of the Sheraton
> hotels that are operated by Pyramid Advisors. They are the folks that
> are giving me the shaft.
>
> And NO, I do NOT have a problem telling people that as it's MY OPINION
> and they can't say jack shit about that.
Hang in there Harry. I have sympathy for what you are going through. God, I
simply hate insurance companies. The chief honcho of these outfits is always
a bastard.
There is something quite crooked about our capitalist system of economy.
Unless you have money and influence, you are more often screwed than not. No
wonder we have so many lawyers. Just keep plugging away and hope for the
best. The law grinds exceeding fine when all is said and done and you may
yet receive some justice.
Best Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 2 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 6:02 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Nuxx Bar" <derderderder619@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 20, 6:41 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "T m Sherm nT _ " <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net"> wrote in
> messagenews:ijrm3h$744$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > On 2/20/2011 11:28 AM, Simon Lewis wrote:
> > > [...]
> >> Oh. And you voted in George Bush
> >> Jnr. Twice.[...]
>
> > Only by a 5 to 4 vote in the 2000 election. And the 2004 election was so
> > fraudulently conducted, who knows who actually won?
>
> God damn fucking Gore could not even carry his home state. I believe Bush
> did carry his home state.
>
> The fact is that the country is evenly split between liberals and
> conservatives. As far as I am concerned, it is a duel to the death.
>> Do you think sick people should be arrested for using medical
marijuana which has been prescribed to them?
Nope. In fact, I am in favor of legalizing MJ. It is no worse than alcohol
or tobacco. But I stop at MJ. Other drugs are way too dangerous to the
health of society.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 3 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 6:41 pm
From: Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net">
On 2/20/2011 7:24 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Harry Brogan"<hbroganjr@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:ncc3m659dhebro68bstmk7ok466vd9q6s8@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 16:55:54 -0600, "Edward Dolan"<edolan@iw.net>
>> wrote:
> [...]
>>> I have no insurance at all for anything - period! Why? Because they are
>>> all
>>> crooks. You literally have to sue to get anything out of them.
> [...]
>> It's been a long road for this one. I didn't get a check for amost
>> two months. Put me behind in everything and we ended up being forced
>> to move as we were upside down in all bills. Just now getting caught
>> up.
>>
>> Now my shoulder is acting up and, again, they are trying to screw me
>> over. But, the advantage I have is twofold. One is the FACT that
>> they have lost in the compensation court and, Two, I have a decent
>> lawyer that's taking care of it. Still have to wait for the cash flow
>> to start again though and THAT sucks.
>>
>> Overall, things haven't been all that bad. But I would rather be
>> working than sitting around trying to figure out things to do. Thank
>> goodness for the computer!!!!
>>
>> If you travel at all I would NOT suggest a stay at any of the Sheraton
>> hotels that are operated by Pyramid Advisors. They are the folks that
>> are giving me the shaft.
>>
>> And NO, I do NOT have a problem telling people that as it's MY OPINION
>> and they can't say jack shit about that.
>
> Hang in there Harry. I have sympathy for what you are going through. God, I
> simply hate insurance companies. The chief honcho of these outfits is always
> a bastard.
>
> There is something quite crooked about our capitalist system of economy.
> Unless you have money and influence, you are more often screwed than not. No
> wonder we have so many lawyers. Just keep plugging away and hope for the
> best. The law grinds exceeding fine when all is said and done and you may
> yet receive some justice.
And the only protection the non-rich have is a government that supports
their interests, which is why the right-wing in the US has worked (and
mostly succeeded) in destroying that in the US.
--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
== 4 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 7:19 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net wrote
> Edward Dolan wrote
>> Harry Brogan <hbroganjr@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com> wrote
>>> Edward Dolan edolan@iw.net wrote
>>>> I have no insurance at all for anything - period! Why? Because they are all crooks. You literally have to sue to
>>>> get anything out of them.
>>> It's been a long road for this one. I didn't get a check for amost
>>> two months. Put me behind in everything and we ended up being
>>> forced to move as we were upside down in all bills. Just now
>>> getting caught up.
>>> Now my shoulder is acting up and, again, they are trying to screw me over. But, the advantage I have is twofold.
>>> One is the FACT that they have lost in the compensation court and, Two, I have a decent lawyer that's taking care of
>>> it. Still have to wait for the cash flow to start again though and THAT sucks.
>>> Overall, things haven't been all that bad. But I would rather be working than sitting around trying to figure out
>>> things to do. Thank goodness for the computer!!!!
>>> If you travel at all I would NOT suggest a stay at any of the Sheraton hotels that are operated by Pyramid Advisors.
>>> They are the folks that are giving me the shaft.
>>> And NO, I do NOT have a problem telling people that as it's MY OPINION and they can't say jack shit about that.
>> Hang in there Harry. I have sympathy for what you are going through. God, I simply hate insurance companies. The
>> chief honcho of these outfits is always a bastard.
>> There is something quite crooked about our capitalist system of
>> economy. Unless you have money and influence, you are more often
>> screwed than not. No wonder we have so many lawyers. Just keep
>> plugging away and hope for the best. The law grinds exceeding fine
>> when all is said and done and you may yet receive some justice.
> And the only protection the non-rich have is a government that supports their interests,
And since there will always be a hell of a lot more non rich than rich,
the non rich clearly are those who determine who gets to be the govt.
> which is why the right-wing in the US has worked (and mostly succeeded) in destroying that in the US.
Pigs arse they have.
== 5 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:30 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Edward Dolan wrote:
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Edward Dolan wrote
>>> No one but an asshole would ever want to review what has already been posted several times.
>> Wrong, most obviously with someone who chooses to jump
>> into a thread at that post and is interested in the context.
> These newsgroups are very small
Irrelevant to whether some choose to jump into a thread if only because
its got quite a few posts in it, to see what the thread is about.
> and everyone knows what is being posted
Mindlessly silly. Heaps dont read every post and just choose to
read some of the posts, often just the post of individuals who
they have found have made some interesting points in the past.
> without having to review the same old shit over and over.
You dont have to review anything, just skip to the new material.
> Learn how to edit or got lost
Go and fuck yourself, again.
>>>>>>> The fact remains that Capitalism and Democracy, whatever its
>>>>>>> faults, has created more wealth and freedom for more folks than
>>>>>>> any other system ever devised. What is so bad about that? Social
>>>>>>> welfare states eventually reduce everyone to the lowest common
>>>>>>> denominator.
>>>>>> Mine doesnt. We have plenty of stinking rich and plenty of pathetic wretches.
>>>>> The pathetic wretches can be taken care of via welfare.
>>>> Nope, some refuse to bother with it.
>>> But MOST don't!
>> Thats just plain wrong. The most pathetic wretches, the 'homeless'
>> drunks and drug addicts, find it a lot easier to engage in petty
>> crime and begging than to bother with the endless rigmarole that the welfare system involves, particularly one like
>> ours which has some very stringent stuff on proof of identity thats designed to stop people claiming more than one
>> benefit in different names etc.
> Yes, I agree with you on the above. But even so, it is an insignificant minority who resort to crime.
Thats just plain wrong. Virtually all illegal drug users who are on welfare resort
to crime, because no one pays enough welfare to support an illegal drug habit.
> MOST will go for the welfare
Depends on the country. Some are so parsimonious with
welfare that its nothing like most that go for the welfare.
>> That involves a birth certificate, passport etc which the most pathetic wretches dont even have at all.
> MOST folks are law abiding
Those using illegal drugs clearly arent.
> and are more put upon than anything else
And those that arent law abiding dont bother with
the farting around and resort to more crime instead.
Plenty of those who are good at it get more out of begging than they do out of welfare too.
>>>>> It is just a pittance after all.
>>>> Another lie. We're actually stupid enough to pay more to some
>>>> slut that has 5 kids than she can get in a minimum wage job.
>>> A minimum wage job would not support 5 kids.
>> It does here. Because our system stupidly pays a hell of a lot of
>> money per kid and those qualify for the full payment. The payments
>> only cut out at very substantial incomes. Terminally stupid middle
>> class welfare.
> Yes, it just barely does.
Another pig ignorant lie. It does a hell of a lot better than
barely if you have a substantial number of kids here.
> That is OK with me.
You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.
What might or might not be OK with you in spades.
> No one ever gets rich off of welfare. It is just subsistence.
Not here it aint if you have enough kids.
It isnt even just subsistence for many on the aged pension here either.
One pair I know have a very decent very large house, and TWO
'mobile homes' and a total of 5 computers between the two of them,
including two almost new laptops, and spent half the year in a
mobile home park getting pissed playing cards until his diabetes
put a stop to that. Thats nothing even remotely like subsistence.
And they arent alone either, most of the people I know are on
the aged pension and most of them zoom around the country
like that, and have as many computers as that. Its uncommon to
have two mobile homes tho, all the others just have one and they
all have very decent modern houses in addition to the mobile home.
> You and I would not like it at all.
You havent got a fucking clue what I would like.
I wouldnt mind it at all if for some reason I lost my very
substantial savings and had to live on just the aged pension.
>>>> And their situation leaves working for dead too, do anything
>>>> you like thats legal, someone looks after the brats for quite
>>>> a bit of most week days in schools, and you even get to
>>>> enjoy the fucking that produces the brats too.
>>> Yup, that is human nature for you. Either support the kids or send in the troops and kill them all.
>> The first world has never operated like that.
>>> Of course, if that is your solution, it is just a matter of time
>>> until they get around to killing you too.
>> The first world has never operated like that either.
> But that is the import of what you think of the situation.
You're lying, again.
> Either support those who cannot support themselves or else kill them.
I never ever said anything about killing anyone, you silly little pathological liar.
> I think we both agree that it is better to just give them a little something to live on. It is the price we pay for
> civil peace.
That last is a pig ignorant lie. We had civil peace before we paid any welfare at all.
We havent ever had a civil war, or entire city blocks put to the torch, EVER.
>>>>> No one gives a damn about a few stinking rich.
>>>> Plenty of the wretches do.
>>> Nope,
>> Yep.
>>> all most want to do is just get by.
>> Wrong.
>>> Welfare makes it possible for them to just get by.
>> They do a hell of a lot better than just get by here and in western europe.
> No they don't.
Yes they do.
> They just get by.
Another pig ignorant lie. You dont have a fucking clue
about the circumstances of those on welfare here.
I've just installed broadband and voip for some
turks who get welfare and they live very well
indeed. 5 cars, they are planning to have 10 of them
back to Turkey for 3 months in about a month.
ALL the older kids have laptops still in warranty.
The only one that doesnt is the most recent 2 year old.
Thats a hell of a lot better than just getting by.
> You and I would not be happy with
> such a reduced standard of living at all.
You have absolutely no idea what I would be happy with.
I dont spend anything like what the turks do on overseas travel.
>>> A small price to pay for civil peace.
>> We didnt see civil chaos before we had welfare in the first world.
> It was always a constant threat.
Only for pig ignorant fools. We have never ever had a civil
war or any entire city blocks put to the torch in this country
and havent even had any riots either, not even in the days
before we paid any welfare at all to anyone.
The most we have ever seen is one minor shit fight
when some miners didnt like the outrageous mining
taxes imposed on them during the gold rush.
> What is given to the poor is insurance for the rich.
Just another of your pig ignorant fantasys.
> You need to study the history of revolutions.
Been doing that since before you were even born thanks.
And we have never ever had one in this country.
>>>>>>> The late unlamented Soviet Union is the poster child for all such systems.
>>>>>> Nope, thats communism, not socialism.
>>>>> Nope, it is basically the welfare state writ large.
>>>> Wrong, as always. Western europe is a lot closer
>>>> to that, with a much better standard of living as well.
>>> They are all going broke.
>> Like hell they are. Germany aint going broke.
> I have to laugh!
Behaving like a village eejut cuts no mustard around here, child.
> Germany is being stuck with the bankruptcy of various Mediterranean countries.
Taint going broke.
> I think the Euro is doomed as is the European Union.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
The most that might happen is that they pull the plug on
the Euro and return to separate national currencys again.
Quite a few EU members havent chose to give up on their own currencys.
> In short, fuck Europe
You stupid pig ignorant yanks dont get to do a damned thing about it.
>>> Here is the progression: liberalism-socialism-communism.
>> Even sillier. You cant list even a single example of socialism progressing to communism.
> Not a bad point I must admit. But that is because even socialisms all fail before they can progress to communism.
You cant list even a single example of ANY socialism failing.
Its only communism thats ever failed.
> Nonetheless, that is the ideological bent of leftists the world over.
Nope, fuck all of those in favor of socialism in western europe have
any interest whatever in communism and they have elected fuck all
communists and not one of them has ever had a communist govt.
>> Not one communist system started from socialism.
> For heavens sakes, read the history of Russian liberalism under the Czars.
Thats not socialism you pig ignorant clown.
EVERYWHERE saw liberalism, even the US.
> That was exactly the progression
Pigs arse it is, there was never any socialism in russia before the revolution.
>>> The welfare state as seen in Europe is half way to socialism.
>> Wrong again, its the most socialism seen.
> No,
Yep.
> the governments do not yet own the means of production.
Quite a few of them did own some of the means of production.
Hardly any of them do anymore.
Hardly any of them even own the phone company anymore.
> They are welfare states, but the tendency is toward ever more and more socialism.
Another pig ignorant lie. Quite a few of the most socialist
countrys in western europe have actually seen less socialism
in recent times than they have had in the past, most obviously
with govt owned phone companys, car plants, coal mining etc etc etc.
> Hey, if you hate capitalism,
Pity I dont. It works very well indeed, particularly when the worst
excesses are illegal and there is a decent level of socialism with
public education, the cops, a decent health care funding system,
decent welfare for those who can not work or who cant find
work, or who are too old to work etc etc etc.
> you are already a socialist.
Every modern country is a mix of socialism and capitalism,
even HongKong before it was handed back to china and
the US. They just vary on the detail of the mix.
>>> That is the direction we are going too in a big way with Obama.
>> Even sillier. Have fun listing even a single example of socialism that he has added.
> Health care expansion via a government take over,
Done by Congress, not Obama. And thats nothing like Medicare anyway.
> probably not far off.
Thats never going to happen. He'll be lucky if he even
manages to retain compulsory health insurance.
> I am all for it, but it is socialism nonetheless.
Corse it is, but nothing like Medicare socialism wise.
Social Security in spades.
>>>> Even the weather is better.
>>> Obviously you have never read anything about the horrors of the European climate
>> Guess which pathetic little prat has just got egg all over its pathetic little face ?
>>> and how it has effected the destiny of nations.
>> Guess which pathetic little prat has just got egg all over its pathetic little face ?
<reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
>>>>>>> Ask yourself, would you rather that everyone be equally poor,
>>>>>> That was never the case in the soviet union.
>>>>> The hell it wasn't.
>>>> Fraid so.
>>>>> Even the rulers were never filthy rich like our capitalist rulers.
>>>> They werent EQUALLY POOR.
>>> So what?
>> So you are face down in the mud, AGAIN.
>>> They were all relatively poor compared to the peoples of capitalist nations.
>> Another pig ignorant lie. The leadership lived a hell of a lot better
>> than say an employed engineer or doctor in capitalist nations.
> But they did not live better than a Rockefeller
Irrelevant to your stupid pig ignorant claim about THE PEOPLES OF CAPITALIST NATIONS.
>>> Why not go to North Korea and see for yourself what it is like in a communist paradise?
>> Its excellent for Kim Jong Il and his son.
> But not for anyone else
Another pig ignorant lie.
>> Your EQUALLY POOR is just plain wrong.
>>>>> Yes, they had some privileges,
>>>> Just a few.
>>>>> but they had to pretend to be like every one else.
>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a
>>>> fucking clue about anything at all, ever. None of them ever did anything like that.
>>> They could not live openly like plutocrats.
>> Kim Jong Il does just that.
> I don't give a god damn about a few rich
You have always been, and always will be completely and utterly irrelevant.
What you may or may not give a damn about in spades.
Your pig ignorant lie was exposed, AGAIN.
>>> Besides, the ruling class in all autocratic states is small.
>> Irrelevant to your stupid pig ignorant EQUALLY POOR claim.
> It is totally relevant.
Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, AGAIN.
> I have already told you numerous times that a few rich don't matter.
You can chant that pathetic little mantra till you are blue in the face if you like, changes nothing.
> It is what the masses have to contend with that matter
Irrelevant to your bare face pig ignorant EQUALLY POOR lie.
>>> Like I said, who cares about a few rich.
>> Quite a few of those that aint anything like rich.
> They don't give a god damn
Another pig ignorant lie. Have fun explaining the rich that were killed.
>> That might just be why so many of them were killed in
>> the russian and chinese and french revolutions, stupid.
> Reference the French Revolution, they were starving to death because of the wretched European climate
Very few of them were and none of the russians were, you pig ignorant clown.
>>> Everything is always relative to something else.
>> Irrelevant to that stupid pig ignorant claim of yours.
> I knew you couldn't pick up on anything the least bit abstract
Even you should be able to do better than that pathetic effort, child.
>>> The people of the Soviet Union were infinetly worse off than the people of any capitalist nation.
>> Not all of them were.
> MOST of them were
Not during the great depression, you pig ignorant clown.
>>> And the direct cause of that poverty was communism.
>> Yes.
>>> Socialism is only slightly better.
>> Another pig ignorant lie. The dregs in western
>> europe live a lot better than the dregs in the US.
> Who care how the dregs live. It is how the middle class lives that matters
Plenty of the middle class in western europe live a lot better than they
do in the US, particularly on exposure to crime, holiday time, etc etc etc.
>>> If you want everyone equally poor, then the welfare state is the way to go.
>> No one is equally poor anywhere, fool.
> Yes, they are in communist nations. Only the rulers are well off.
Another pig ignorant lie.
>>>>>>> or that some few be rich and the remainder of us at least be well off?
>>>>>> Certainly most of us are better off than most in the soviet union.
>>>>> Well, that is the genius of the capitalist free enterprise system.
>>>> Nope, its also seen with the most aggressive socialism in places
>>>> like scandinavia and holland.
>>> Those small nations have quite homogenous populations
>> Another pig ignorant lie. Holland is nothing like homogeneous.
> The recent immigrants have not yet been absorbed into the society.
So they are nothing like homogeneous, you pig ignorant clown.
> They don't count
Corse they do when their numbers are so large.
>>> and no kind of socialism has ever worked well in a large nation.
>> Try telling that to the germans. Dont be too surprised when they just laugh in your stupid pig ignorant face.
> The Germans do not have anything approaching a full socialist system.
Another pig ignorant lie. They actually INVENTED the
socialist health care system you pig ignorant clown.
> Like all the European nations they are only half way there
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
>>> It is why it is also useless to talk about the virtues of
>>> Switzerland. Next you will be telling us how wonderful it is to live in Luxembourg.
>> Having fun thrashing that straw man, child ?
> Yes, tell us about how wonderful it is to live in a totally fucked-up nation like Britain why don't you
I've got absolutely nothing to do with Britain, you pig ignorant clown.
== 6 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:33 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net wrote
> Edward Dolan wrote
>>>> A small price to pay for civil peace.
>>>> We didnt see civil chaos before we had welfare in the first world.
>> It was always a constant threat. What is given to the poor is
>> insurance for the rich. You need to study the history of revolutions.
> Indeed, FDR pushed the New Deal to keep the US from a communist revolution.
There was never ever any possibility of a communist revolution in the US.
The US has only ever elected a single communist.
> Of course, the rich begrudge even those few crumbs, and
> have spent the last 30 years in power taking them away.
They dont get to elect govts, there just arent enough of them to do that.
> The US will either have a revolution (peaceful or violent)
Not a chance. Have fun listing even a single revolution in any of the great democracys.
> or become a third world country,
Not a chance. Have fun listing even a single example of a first world country ever doing that.
> if it continues on its present course.
Pure fantasy.
== 7 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:35 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
== 8 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:35 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
== 9 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:35 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
== 10 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:35 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
== 11 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:36 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
== 12 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:36 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
== 13 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:39 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Edward Dolan wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Edward Dolan wrote
>>> "T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net"> wrote
>>>> Edward Dolan wrote
>>>>> The fact remains that Capitalism and Democracy, whatever its
>>>>> faults, has created more wealth and freedom for more folks than
>>>>> any other system ever devised. What is so bad about that? Social
>>>>> welfare states eventually reduce everyone to the lowest common
>>>>> denominator. The late unlamented Soviet Unionis the poster child
>>>>> for all such systems.
>>>> Oh, yes, life is so terrible for the Scandinavian, Germans, Beneluxians, and French. </sarcasm>
>>> Mr. Sherman needs to live in any of the above mentioned nations for a few years so can have some real world
>>> experience behind him instead of his liberal-socialist-communist cant to fall back on. I have known dozens of
>>> Europeans who emigrated to this country
>>> because they couldn't stand Europe.
>> I know dozens of americans that have emigrated out of america.
> Only dozens?
Using your words, fuckwit.
> I doubt any of them are going to Europe.
They are anyway.
> They are probably going to Israel so they can better kick Arab ass.
Guess again, child.
>>> Are there any average working class Americans who are emigrating to Europe?
>> Yep. And to plenty of other places too. One even posts in here.
> Stats?
Stats yourself.
== 14 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:42 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Edward Dolan wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Edward Dolan wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Chief Thracian wrote
>>>>> You put the shame in being Amerikan.
>>>> I'm not even an american, you stupid pig ignorant clown.
>>> Nope, this asshole is English.
>> Guess which pathetic little pig ignorant prat has just got egg all over its pathetic little face ?
> Hells Bells, if this god damn ignorant asshole does not want to tell us where he is from, I will just assume he is
> English.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof of what a terminal fuckwit you have always been.
That post you originally replied to had someone else spell out which country I am in, child.
> He spells certain words like the English do.
Another pig ignorant lie.
<reams of its puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
== 15 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:42 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
== 16 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:45 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Edward Dolan wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Edward Dolan wrote
>>> Europe is being flooded with emigrants from the Near East and North Africa.
>> Its much harder for them to get into europe than it is for mexicans etc to get into the US.
> The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying about this?
Just check the map, stupid. There happens to be a
rather large stretch of water between north africa and
europe, and not one between mexico and the US, child.
And just how many of you are there between those ears anyway, child ?
>>> Europe is just as feckless about it as we are.
>> Nothing like as feckless actually.
> The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying about this?
Record's stuck, child.
>> You clowns actually let any cuban who wanted to come in.
> The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying about this?
Record's stuck, child.
== 17 of 17 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:46 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 5:54 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8sds53FhqeU1@mid.individual.net...
> Harry Brogan wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>> Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for
>>> dead.
>
>> Don't you think you could have done any better than that??
>
> That clown doesnt qualify for anything better than that.
RS has shit for brains and the knack of never saying anything the least bit
sensible. All he knows how to do is to call everyone a liar, ever the last
refuge of a coward and a scoundrel who is afraid of argument.
Fucking Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 6:08 pm
From: Harry Brogan
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:34:14 -0600, me@privacy.net wrote:
>"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>
>>You provoke me at your peril. Rod Speed will learn this the hard way.
>
>now THAT is fuckin funny
>
>you are and idiot
>
>go kill yourself
No name.....no response is warranted.
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 6:09 pm
From: Harry Brogan
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:06:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>Harry Brogan wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>> Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
>
>> Don't you think you could have done any better than that??
>
>That clown doesnt qualify for anything better than that.
>
And you do?
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 7:14 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Harry Brogan wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Harry Brogan wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
>>> Don't you think you could have done any better than that??
>> That clown doesnt qualify for anything better than that.
> And you do?
Question doesnt arise with me, fuckwit.
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 7:22 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Harry Brogan <hbroganjr@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Harry Brogan <hbroganjr@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
>>> Don't you think you could have done any better than that??
>> That clown doesnt qualify for anything better than that.
> And you do?
Question doesnt arise with me, fuckwit.
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:34 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 8:48 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 10:16 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In article <8sdc45FddrU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed wrote:
> Edward Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for
> dead.
Is Roddie more on TM's side than ED's side?
Why did Roddie need take a side in a Usenet battle between TM and ED?
I somewhat regret now having posted in favor of 1 and not the other
of these 2 that hyave gained themselves some unpopularity...
In light of the maybe-15-plus-year-old apparently-largely-still-
current FAQ on the infamous R.S., I could actually decrease my
disfavor to E.D. That is because R.S. has (as I experience this) a
great history of apparently liking to irritate people, especially ones
who work for a living.
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
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