Frugal Living: Jun 15, 2008

Sunday, June 15, 2008

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TOPIC: yo yo yo vanilla ice in da hizzle!!!
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Date: Fri, Jun 13 2008 10:27 pm
From: markritter150

Sup sup all y'all!!!

Vanilla Ice's hit movie needs to be released on Blu-Ray high-def, yo.

Das right, maing. Yep yep.

Sign da petition, holmes.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/coolasicebluray

You be da flyest homeboy around, G. You phat. You def. Let's see if
we can get dat movie released in high-def, homeboy.

Word to yo' mutha!

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TOPIC: BANKRUPTCY ATTORNEY
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Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 2:50 am
From: PREETHI

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TOPIC: Citizens Bank giving misleading checking balances, causing overdrafts
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Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 4:50 am
From: Derald

"Chloe" <justsayno@spam.com> wrote:

>Am I missing something here?
I never have heard of a bank that reports only account balance and
not "available" balance. However, many banks post transactions,
including debit card transactions, only once daily at the end of the day
so transactions taking place on the day that one calls the 800 service
will not be reported. I guess it's easy enough for a person who does not
enter debit card transactions into his check register to become dazed
and confused.... Do you reckon that someone's mother, someplace, might
deem that to be the bank's "fault"?
--
Derald

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TOPIC: Dog Grooming
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Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 4:28 am
From: "vaticans.org"

Dog Grooming

Those of us who are groomers are aware of what a stressful job
grooming can be. Dogs can be barking, the phone can be ringing, people
are walking in to ask about prices and schedules...and all the while
the clock is ticking on the pets you are supposed to finish by the
grooming deadline.
While you can't control everything in the salon (no matter how much
you try!) you can budget a bit of your time and effort to making the
stress less of an issue. Here are some ideas to engage your senses.

1. The Phone - try to have a ring that doesn't set your teeth on edge,
and a message that assures people you will get back to them quickly.
While you don't exactly want to answer the phone when you have your
hands full of soapy wet dog, or even dog pee, your client doesn't
understand when you don't answer the phone. They assume the worst -
that you are unprofessional. Make sure your message assures them you
ARE around and that you WILL be in touch within the half hour - about
as long as clients are willing to wait.

2. Soft Music - If you are like me, you don't like that soft rock/
muzak/easy listening stuff that reminds you of growing old. But
grunge, alternative or even retro oldies won't impress the customers.
What to play?

Good music to groom by includes interesting but not boring ideas like
Spanish Classical Guitar; Piano Concertos by Mozart or Bach; crooner
music from the 1920s-40 (think about the soundtrack to "When Harry Met
Sally"); the soundtrack to movies like Gladiator, Star Wars, The Fifth
Element, or whatever movies you dig; some of the milder, more relaxing
salsa sounds; Italian Opera (La Boheme is great); or ethnic tunes from
many countries - like Australian Maori music, US Native American,
Greek classics or other World Beat sounds. Be creative. I recommend
checking out the world-wide musical selections on Amazon.com.

3. Scents - It's up to you whether to use candles, aromatherapy, sage
smudges, incense or potpourri...but find something you enjoy that
makes you feel calm and at ease.

4. Stay hydrated and fed. If you aren't cranky, you will be better
able to put on your smiley face for customers, even if you have just
been bit, pooped on, and are running three dogs late!

Note - if you are calmer, your doggie clients will certainly pick up
on that and be better behaved as well. The nice music and soothing
scents won't just help YOUR well-being, but will also create a
soothing stage for their "spa day out" as well.

http://www.dunhill-dogs.com/dog-grooming.html

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TOPIC: Earn without any initial investment
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Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 7:34 am
From: Al Bundy

besant...@gmail.com wrote:
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> If you are interested login to
>
> http://www.AWSurveys.com/HomeMain.cfm?RefID=besantv
>
> Join directly, attend surveys and start earning.

I'm waiting for the deal where they pay you AHEAD of time and then you
decide whether you want to keep the money. Michael Anthony, where are
you?

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TOPIC: Credit Card Review Sites?
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Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 10:21 am
From: Pringles CheezUms

What are some good reputable sites that review credit cards?
By good credit cards, I mean they treat you right, no hidden fees, low
interest rates, no yearly fee, stuff like that.
I've found several sites from google, but you never know what they're
about without some personal experience.

Thanks!

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 3:41 pm
From: krw

In article <99v754ti74qa6rrafulrge25b33rlbhjgn@4ax.com>,
nowhere@nohow.com says...
> What are some good reputable sites that review credit cards?

http://www.bankrate.com/brm/rate/cc_home.asp

> By good credit cards, I mean they treat you right, no hidden fees, low
> interest rates, no yearly fee, stuff like that.

Treat you right? That's funny. All the other stuff is available
above.

> I've found several sites from google, but you never know what they're
> about without some personal experience.

Well, if you don't trust internet sites (no reason you should), why
are you asking?

--
Keith

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Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 6:00 pm
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply

krw wrote:
>
>> I've found several sites from google, but you never know what they're
>> about without some personal experience.
>
> Well, if you don't trust internet sites (no reason you should), why
> are you asking?

I would not particularly trust "average joe" review sites, but OTOH a
site like Bankrate's is reputable. Perhaps that is what the OP was
getting at.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 6:30 pm
From: krw

In article <4854699f$0$17199$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
samhill@TRASHsonic.net says...
> krw wrote:
> >
> >> I've found several sites from google, but you never know what they're
> >> about without some personal experience.
> >
> > Well, if you don't trust internet sites (no reason you should), why
> > are you asking?
>
>
> I would not particularly trust "average joe" review sites, but OTOH a
> site like Bankrate's is reputable. Perhaps that is what the OP was
> getting at.

I thought of that, but those are exactly the sites one would expect
to get "personal experience". Ain't the English language fun? ;-)

--
Keith

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TOPIC: DTV Converter box major snafu in the US
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Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 10:39 am
From: Logan Shaw

Rod Speed wrote:
> Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> The thing about ATSC is that because
>> of the type of modulation it uses, multipath interference like this
>> is supposed to allow an ATSC tuner to, quite amazingly, get *better*
>> reception[1]. So because of digital TV, there are people who for the
>> first time in years actually have a chance of receiving a clear
>> signal over the air.
>
>> [1] Essentially, an ATSC tuner and the ATSC transmitter are changing frequencies really often.
>
> No they dont.

Hmm, I have to admit I'm wrong on this point. I would have bet money that I
had read an entire article describing how ATSC uses frequency-hopping and how
this turns multipath from a problem to an advantage. Apparently something
went wrong in the process of my remembering it correctly, though, because I
can now find no information that supports this idea. The closest I could
find was some assertions that newer ATSC receivers are much better at dealing
with multipath interference than older ATSC receivers were (but that's not
the same thing).

Maybe I was thinking of 802.11n or something. I don't know.

- Logan

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Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 10:54 am
From: Logan Shaw

Derald wrote:
> Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> I'm not sure what you saw demo'ed, but full resolution HDTV is a major
>> improvement over SD (analog or digital). On some sets, about 2
>> megapixels vs. 1/4 megapixel.

> I don't know, either. DW&I haven't exactly kept up with the wonders
> of video technology so I just did the old detune and cruise the aisle
> sort out in three stores. It's a safe bet each was receiving Bright
> House cable or Direct TV.

That could be the explanation as to why the picture wasn't all that
impressive. Digital TV, especially when it comes to cable, gives you
a choice about what quality of signal to transmit. A cable television
operator can choose to transmit a relatively small number of high-quality
channels, or they can choose to transmit a huge number of channels whose
quality is really bad. Or somewhere in between. They tend to choose
the option of many low-quality channels.

If you are in a store sometime with some time to kill, ask to see an
HDTV set showing an HD cable television signal and then the same set
showing a movie off a Blu-ray disc. The Blu-ray will show you what
the television set is actually capable of if it is given a signal
which isn't utter trash.

> What I did notice about many is
> an unnatural and annoying, hard-edged granularity similar to, say, a
> laptop monitor.

Are you referring to phenomenon where the picture is broken up into
squares specifically, often about 1/4" to 1/2" in diameter (depending
on many factors) like you see on many videos on the internet, for
example on youtube? If so, this is exactly what I'm talking about.
These chunks are a symptom of someone encoding the video in such a
way as to use as little bandwidth as possible, i.e. what the cable
companies do to save money and cram more channels in. It looks
positively terrible. You can recognize the phenomenon I'm talking
about because it gets worse if there is a lot of motion in the
program you're watching. For example, during sports they often
jerk the camera to the side quickly to follow the action, and when
they do, you will see the squares I'm talking about. After the
picture is relatively still for a short period (even a fraction of
a second), the squares will get less noticeable.

Anyway, if you see this, just be aware that it is a choice made by
the cable operator (or satellite dish people or whatever), not an
inherent limitation of the technology.

- Logan

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Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 7:40 pm
From: Derald

Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>Are you referring to phenomenon....
No; I think you are describing classic aliasing raised to the enth
power: Basically, missing information. Aliasing occurs anytime that
inherently analog natural phenomena are digitized. For example, aliasing
is what makes music CDs sound gritty and harsh. Aliasing is influenced
by sampling rate, bit depth and data transmission rate, which often is
erroneously called, "bandwidth".
I was attempting to describe a picture that is unnaturally bright,
"sharp", hard-edged and gritty. Interference and diffraction eliminate
hard edges in visual reality (although, in many situations, the brain
provides them) while they are present in virtually all graphics,
regardless of medium. Their presence is one of the visual cues that we
use to differentiate between real and make-believe. For some reason,
some people seem to want their teevees to look "better" than real which,
I suppose, explains the spectre of misadjusted, garishly oversaturated,
contrasty color sets that one encounters in living rooms everywhere.
I had always thought the inherent technical superiority of digital
broadcasting was that it requires no bandwidth, resulting in greater
signal propagation with far less power required.
Not particularly interested in cable, satellite, video disks, etc.
I just want DW to be able to watch y&r with a minimum of crabbing about
yet another technological "advance" that really has done nothing from
this end-user's POV except provide another buying opportunity. In the
best of all possible worlds, the loss of teevee broadcast signal would
provide the impetus to remove the slime chute from my daily environment
and, who knows, it may.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 10:29 pm
From: The Real Bev

Dennis wrote:

> Why is it that I have this nagging suspicion that if the coupons could
> be used to buy beer or cigarettes instead, these same people wouldn't
> have any problem redeeming them? ;-)

Probably the same people who have problems with rebates :-(

> I got my coupon in mid-March -- the expiration date was clearly noted.
> I redeemed it for a convertor at Radio Shack a couple weeks ago. There
> was a stack of the convertors on display. I've also seen some on
> display at the local WalMart.

Walmart has the best deal, but Best Buy also has some. I think there's
a list of approved stores on the website.

--
Cheers,
Bev
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"Why does everybody always forget the eigthth dwarf? Just because
poor old Lumpy died of cancer doesn't mean he should be written
out of history." -- RMassey

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TOPIC: 2009 Prius - why such a big engine?
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Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 1:09 pm
From: jnh@VictorTangoEleven.net.invalid (Jordan Hazen)

In article <XtWdnXBhXZ3Gz83VnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
timeOday <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:
>
>Probably, but the nice thing about a hybrid though is you can run the
>engine just at the RPM where it's most efficient until the battery is
>charged, then turn off the engine and drive on battery alone. So if a
>larger engine simply charges the battery that much quicker before
>turning off, it might hardly be less efficient at all.

A "series" hybrid works that way, but current cars on the market are
all "parallel" designs, where both gasonline engine and electric motor
are mechanically coupled to the wheels, using a rather clever sort of
transmission.

Each can be more efficient in certain situations. Parallel allows for
a smaller electric motor/generator.

I'd prefer the series design for its mechanical simplicity. Chevy's
upcoming Volt will be a series, basically a full electric vehicle with
completely separate engine-generator set. Some custom-built EVs are
similar, putting the genset in a small trailer that's attached only
for long trips (at all other times, it could be left at home to serve
as a standby household generator).
--
Jordan.

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TOPIC: The pleasure of penny-pinching
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 1:14 pm
From: "none@none.com"

http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/family/story/0,,2285540,00.html

As a teenager, Anna Shepard was mortified by her mother's thrifty habits
- no heating, lukewarm baths and yesterday's leftovers. Now she's
inherited the 'frugal gene' - and she's proud of it

Saturday June 14, 2008
The Guardian

It's 1985. I am five years old and I'm staring at my lunchbox. All
around me, children are ripping into packets of Monster Munch and
Peperamis. I've got yesterday's quiche and a tomato sliced in half,
spilling seeds everywhere. And there's something else at the bottom,
possibly a homemade rock bun, but I can't be sure. There isn't enough
clingfilm to stop it from becoming unidentifiably soggy.

My school lunchbox was a testament to my mother's thrifty habits. Today
it would be celebrated as green and resourceful, a low-carbon meal made
from leftovers. Back then, I didn't give a hoot about food waste and
packaging. I wanted pickled onion crisps and a Penguin for pudding.

Article continues
It wasn't that my parents were tofu-munching hippies who spent weekends
waving banners. Growing up in a village outside Cambridge in the 80s, I
don't remember any of us having environmental worries, other than my
long-standing concern about African elephants being killed for their
tusks. But I did appreciate at an early age that we were spectacularly
good at saving resources. Electricity, gas, food, water: you name it, we
made it stretch further.

To do so, we called on the considerable powers of "eke, eke". This was
my granny's phrase (on my mother's side), and it described being sparing
with resources. If it sounds rather dour and puritanical for a
much-loved family philosophy, it never seemed like that to me. I
remember Granny peering into her larder to work out what we were going
to have for supper. She'd eye some meagre leftovers, giggle, and then
shriek "Eke, eke!" with a characteristically naughty expression. It
would be muttered when a modest-sized chicken was required to feed a
large number of Sunday lunch guests, or when we were expected to hold
back at an expensive restaurant.

My mother took pleasure in following her mother's lead. She would dash
around the house closing curtains to keep the heat in the moment it was
dark and stubbornly refuse to bin the mouldiest lump of cheese. Today,
if you were to walk into her kitchen, chances are she'd be baking bread
- one of her favourite pastimes as it provides a satisfying end for all
sorts of dry ingredients that need using up, from porridge oats to stale
bran flakes.

Over by the sink, you'd find a soggy tea bag, maybe two, awaiting second
use, and dotted around the Aga would be several saucers of leftovers -
some likely to contain as little as a few peas or a handful of pasta
shells. Meanwhile, upstairs, you'd doubtless come across a toothpaste
tube, or maybe a bottle of moisturiser, cut open with nail scissors to
reveal its final scrape.

This is not about saving money, although I'm sure finances played a
part. We weren't seriously hard-up. It was something else. A hangover
from wartime austerity, perhaps,...#65279; which both sets of
grandparents passed on to my parents when they were growing up in the
50s. An almost moral sense of obligation not to waste what you have but
make it go as far as possible.

Only as a teenager did it bother me. "Own up! Who left the kitchen door
open?" my father would bellow if anyone dared let the precious warmth
from the Aga escape. This, combined with my mother's insistence that we
all take lukewarm, shallow baths rather than turn on the immersion
heater, would leave me mortified when I had friends, never mind
boyfriends, to stay.

Invariably, when friends did arrive, the first thing we had to do was to
issue woolly jumpers and blankets. I did try to warn them, but my
friends seemed to think that a cold house meant you might need an extra
cotton pullover, not that the upstairs sink would freeze solid in winter
and you wouldn't dream of putting a toe into bed unless it was clad in
thick socks and there was a hot...#8209;water bottle there to greet it.

But it didn't take long after I left school to realise that there was
value in my upbringing. As a student, being able to throw together a
quick bean stew from store-cupboard basics and jazz up your wardrobe for
less than a tenner at Help the Aged are skills worthy of respect. I
stopped longing to live in a house heated to bikini-friendly
temperatures and began to make peace with my inner thriftiness.

In my final year at university, studying the home front in the second
world war, I learned of a different context for making do and mending. I
liked the idea of rationing and digging for victory. It reminded me of
home. And it began to occur to me that the habits I'd been brought up
with weren't weird and stingy; they were planet-saving. I could be
pea-green and all I'd have to do would be to follow my mother's lead.

So what began as a gradual absorption of family habits grew into a
personal passion and then into a career. That I am now a journalist
writing about green living is largely thanks to the good fortune of
having a mother who lived by waste-not want-not principles; the same
ones we are advised to get back in touch with to fight climate change. A
long line of thrifty women behind her, whose domestic habits were seen
as nothing more than good housekeeping, are responsible for making me
the eco-minded adult I am today.

This came to light last year when I started writing a book with the aim
of encouraging people to tweak their life to make it greener. "You're
not eco; you're 'eke, eke'," my mother announced proudly when I
explained the synopsis.

My boyfriend is less impressed. I infuriate him with what he calls
"false economies". Saving stale lumps of bread to turn into breadcrumbs
and storing them in jam jars, and requesting that he brings back the
silver foil from his sandwiches so I can wipe it, fold it and use it
again, are two such practices that provoke raised eyebrows. "You're
kidding yourself if you think this makes a difference," he mutters. But
he is slowly learning that this is a family compulsion. That I have
managed to turn these stingy habits into something green and valuable is
the wonder of it.

Unlike my teenage self, I now delight in telling people about my
mother's latest experiment using a giant roll of clingfilm to insulate
windows, or the henhouse that is being built at the bottom of the garden
for four feathery new arrivals. And in the past few years, the exchange
of green habits has flowed in both directions. When I raved about my new
wormery, my mother quietly listened. "I'd quite like one of those
myself," she mused. A few months later, she announced that she, too, had
her own worm bin - having waited until there was a secondhand one going
cheap in the village.

Now that I'm five months pregnant, my latest eco worry is whether I'll
ever reach this point with my own children and inspire enthusiasm in all
things green. I can't help wondering how I'll cope if my frugally reared
sprogs announce their plans to scoot around in gas guzzlers or embark on
ethically dubious careers. And when I face the inevitable lunchbox
dilemma, will I stay strong on my devotion to leftovers or submit to
popular demand as I longed for my mother to do?

Whatever lies ahead, experience tells me that family values usually
emerge triumphant, if not when your children are teenagers, then later
when they are twentysomethings. It is harder than you might think to
turn your back on frugal genes, and there is nothing like moving away
from home, establishing your own domestic regime and embarking on a
family, to make you think fondly about habits that you grew up with. I'm
sure I'm not alone in doing many things - from peeling potatoes to
storing elastic bands - in certain ways, for no other reason than
because that is how they were done when I was young.

Perhaps it is nostalgia, but I'm also aware that as I grow older, so,
too, does my mother. The time we have to share recipes and gardening
tips no longer stretches out beyond what is imaginable. Reality dawns,
and I know it will end one day, and I'll be left alone with her voice in
my head but no more opportunities to learn from her.

That's why, every month or so, I abandon my independent life, my London
flat, even my fledgling courgette plants, to go home. To pull up a
kitchen chair, while my mother kneads the bread dough, and to feast on
one of her "eke, eke" stews (a dish made from a leftover roast that
started life perfectly normally but after several days ends up as
carrots and gravy), brings me more pleasure than ever before.

And when I re-enter my own life and find myself polishing off pasta for
breakfast rather than let it go to waste, or topping yesterday's
bolognese with last weekend's mashed potato, I am proud to admit that it
is not only green concerns motivating me; it is also because I am my
mother's daughter.

· How Green Are My Wellies? Small Steps and Giant Leaps to Green Living
with Style, by Anna Shepard, is published by Eden Project Books

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 7:02 pm
From: "Stormin Mormon"

Pepperoni pizza, ham and cheese, bacon bits..... mmmmmm

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus

www.lds.org
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"Truly Stunned" <violin@thebridgeofsighs.sad> wrote in message
news:violin-935F0F.17554902062008@news.supernews.com...
mmmmm... smorgasbored

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 10:29 pm
From: ukie

On Jun 1, 10:01 pm, af_1...@hotmail.com wrote:

<snip>

That's easy for YOU to say.

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TOPIC: frugal towels?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 10:26 pm
From: The Real Bev

pc wrote:

> For face and hands and other towelling needs I rely on my 50? count pack
> of white terry towels bought from the auto department of BJs. They are
> great. I use them in the bath and as kitchen towels and as they degrade
> they get relegated to the garage for other uses. These get washed weekly.

Daughter bought those at Costco. Excellent idea and when you have so
many you don't bother using them a few days longer than you really
should :-)

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TOPIC: Earn cash back for online shopping
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 10:33 pm
From: mpair

Earn cash back from WalMart, Best Buy, Target, iTunes, and Zappos.

http://home.bigcrumbs.com/mpair

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TOPIC: Gasoline "Boycott": The Next Generation
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 14 2008 10:35 pm
From: The Real Bev

Napoleon wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:31:59 -0700, The Real Bev
>>
>>Hey, I have Medicare and a Blue Cross supplement. I'm happy.
>
> Typical. I've got mine, the rest of you can go to hell.

I would have thought that was obvious. Should I use shorter words?

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