Frugal Living: May 13, 2008

Tuesday, May 13, 2008

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 10:54 am
From: Vic Smith

On Mon, 12 May 2008 22:29:42 -0700, Smitty Two
<prestwhich@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>Personally, Donna, I find you quite annoying. You have quite a habit of
>extending simple questions into threads of 500 posts, with excruciating
>detail. I imagine others are caught up in your little soap opera life of
>home repairs, though, so yes, please post those pics so all your little
>homies can see how you conquered a leaky faucet.
>
>Somehow it just seems kind of obscene to me. Your fascination with
>yourself, and your perception that others are equally fascinated. You
>cross post to four different groups, because you just love to share with
>a big audience, and you're always so polite and cheerful. It's really
>quite ugly.
>
>Do have an absolutely wonderful day, though, won't you dear? We'll be
>eagerly waiting to guide you through your next challenge, because next
>to fixing broken crap in our own houses, our favorite pastime is talking
>to Donna about fixing broken crap in hers, and joyfully celebrating her
>hard-won victories.

LOL. Good. I always find huge detailed threads about taking a faucet
apart a bit much, when getting hold of a copy of that little schematic
that usually comes with it would do.
OTOH, it's more interesting than "never had a clue" and "fuckwit."

--Vic

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TOPIC: Disputing phone bill charges
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 11:01 am
From: George Grapman

val189 wrote:
> On Apr 24, 12:34 am, Mark Anderson <m...@nospambrandylion.com> wrote:
>
>> Hotels always try and rip you off with long distance but since the
>> calling card uses a toll free access number, the hotels can only charge
>> you for a local call which is usually peanuts or just flat out waived
>> when you check out.
>
> Not quite - I stayed in Marriott recently and was about to use my
> prepaid card, then noticed a note in the phone in my room that a one
> dollar fee would be billed for every toll free number dialed. NTS, I
> used my cell.
> I hope the rest of the hotel industry doesn't follow suit on this.
>
>
>
Charging for 800 numbers is a fairly common thing. I used to ask
about those charges but with a cell the only calls that I make on their
phone are within the hotel.

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TOPIC: Jewelry Christmas Gifts That Sparkle And Shine
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Date: Tues, May 13 2008 11:57 am
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 12:05 pm
From: Cheapo Groovo

In article <6da952f4-7592-4bb3-a4b1-ab2d3e636640
@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, MSfortune@mcpmail.com says...
> On May 12, 8:45 am, travisrya...@gmail.com wrote:
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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>
> What a pain in the ass questionnaire it is!
> The same questions are repeated different ways as if the taker is too
> dumb to remember what the previous answer was. We used to get more of
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> the same. He's going through the motions, punching his time card, and
> working toward a conclusion that he probably already has in mind.
> Piled Higher & Deeper-indeed
>
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TOPIC: this has helped me to live frugal between jobs
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Date: Tues, May 13 2008 12:08 pm
From: Cheapo Groovo

In article <68rp9mF2umcluU1@mid.individual.net>, rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
says...
> Al Bundy <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote
> > william.axl...@gmail.com wrote
>
> >> I change jobs a lot a a c-level executive and being frugal is always
> >> good between jobs when I'm out of works for a few months at a time.
> >> Between my current job at Actuant and my last job I was out of work
> >> for almost a year (though I was actively looking). Being frugal is
> >> the way to go to help you through the lows.
>
> >> billaxl...@aol.com
> >> bill.axl...@actuant.com
>
> > Bill, when you are "out of works for a few months at a time" and
> > this last time for a year, are you not really a part time employee?
>
> > Being frugal is the way to go at all times so you don't have any lows.
>
> Not necessarily, particularly if you earn well when working.
>
>
>
Watch "the story of stuff" to see why frugality is a quality all should
strive for

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 1:31 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Cheapo Groovo <ccsj@nospam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com wrote
>> Al Bundy <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote
>>> william.axl...@gmail.com wrote

>>>> I change jobs a lot a a c-level executive and being frugal is always
>>>> good between jobs when I'm out of works for a few months at
>>>> a time. Between my current job at Actuant and my last job I was
>>>> out of work for almost a year (though I was actively looking).
>>>> Being frugal is the way to go to help you through the lows.

>>>> billaxl...@aol.com
>>>> bill.axl...@actuant.com

>>> Bill, when you are "out of works for a few months at a time" and
>>> this last time for a year, are you not really a part time employee?

>>> Being frugal is the way to go at all times so you don't have any lows.

>> Not necessarily, particularly if you earn well when working.

> Watch "the story of stuff" to see why frugality is a quality all should strive for

No thanks. That makes absolutely no sense for the highest earners to bother with.

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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 1:10 pm
From: clams_casino

Jacques E. Bouchard wrote:

>phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in news:g017f1229kq@news3.newsguy.com:
>
>
>
>>The solution is to put "googlegroups.com" in to match against the
>>message ID header, and block everything that comes from there. Most
>>is spam, some is just lame lusers, and the very few smart people that
>>have been using it because they like web interfaces will figure out
>>another place to post from.
>>
>>
>
>The solution is to learn to skip messages with titles that are obviously
>spam. You overestimate the incentive for Google Groups users to find a news
>server.
>
>
>
>

Google has actually done newsgroups a big favor. Since Google does
nothing about the spam on google groups, most every spammer now uses
just google groups.

If you filter all google group postings, you can filter some 99.9% of
all the spam on newsgroups.

== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 1:34 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
> Jacques E. Bouchard wrote
>> phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote

>>> The solution is to put "googlegroups.com" in to match against the
>>> message ID header, and block everything that comes from there. Most is spam, some is just lame lusers, and the very
>>> few smart people that have been using it because they like web interfaces will figure out another place to post
>>> from.

>> The solution is to learn to skip messages with titles that are obviously spam. You overestimate the incentive for
>> Google Groups users to find a news server.

> Google has actually done newsgroups a big favor.

Nope.

> Since Google does nothing about the spam on google groups, most every spammer now uses just google groups.

Yes, but so do plenty of non spam posters too.

> If you filter all google group postings, you can filter some 99.9% of all the spam on newsgroups.

And lose all the non spam posters who choose to post from there too.

Usenet has faded so far past what it was in its heyday, it makes absolutely
no sense to lose a great swag of the remaining non spam posters.

== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 1:51 pm
From: "Richard Crowley"

"Rod Speed" wrote ...
> clams_casino wrote
>> Google has actually done newsgroups a big favor.
>
> Nope.

I wouldn't say "big favor". Certainly the Google Groups
Archives is an enormously important cyber-resource.

However Google's indiscriminate and irresponsible opening
Usenet to the unwashed masses via their web interface seems
mostly negative IMHO.

I know that sounds elitist, but Usenet depends on human common
sense to keep it useful and managable, and that is lost when a big
corporate player like Google (or AOL, etc.) decides to dabble.

>> Since Google does nothing about the spam on google groups, most every
>> spammer now uses just google groups.
>
> Yes, but so do plenty of non spam posters too.

Then they can take their chances that people will read their
messages from SpamCentral. No shoes, no shirt, no service.

>> If you filter all google group postings,

Assuming you are using a newsreader that will do that.
Alas, there is no practical way to do that with OE. :-(

>> you can filter some 99.9% of all the spam on newsgroups.
>
> And lose all the non spam posters who choose to post from there too.

That's that chance they take. Good luck to them.
I have little sympathy for them.

> Usenet has faded so far past what it was in its heyday,

I've been using Usenet since before it's "heyday" and it seems
just as useful and vigorous as ever. Perhaps it depends on
which NGs you're reading.

> it makes absolutely no sense to lose a great swag of the
> remaining non spam posters.

Again, perhaps it depends on which NGs you're talking
about. But there are so few legitimate posts from Google
that I wouldn't miss them if they diappeared completely.

== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 3:09 pm
From: clams_casino

Rod Speed wrote:

>clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
>
>
>>Jacques E. Bouchard wrote
>>
>>
>>>phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>>The solution is to put "googlegroups.com" in to match against the
>>>>message ID header, and block everything that comes from there. Most is spam, some is just lame lusers, and the very
>>>>few smart people that have been using it because they like web interfaces will figure out another place to post
>>>>from.
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
>>>The solution is to learn to skip messages with titles that are obviously spam. You overestimate the incentive for
>>>Google Groups users to find a news server.
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>Google has actually done newsgroups a big favor.
>>
>>
>
>Nope.
>
>
>
>>Since Google does nothing about the spam on google groups, most every spammer now uses just google groups.
>>
>>
>
>Yes, but so do plenty of non spam posters too.
>
>
>
>>If you filter all google group postings, you can filter some 99.9% of all the spam on newsgroups.
>>
>>
>
>And lose all the non spam posters who choose to post from there too.
>
>Usenet has faded so far past what it was in its heyday, it makes absolutely
>no sense to lose a great swag of the remaining non spam posters.
>
>
>
>
There so few legit googlegroup postings (essentially negligible) -
certainly not worth the advantages of not filtering all google group
postings..

== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 4:19 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Richard Crowley <rcrowley@xp7rt.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> clams_casino wrote

>>> Google has actually done newsgroups a big favor.

>> Nope.

> I wouldn't say "big favor". Certainly the Google Groups
> Archives is an enormously important cyber-resource.

Different matter entirely to being able to POST from groups google, what is being discussed.

> However Google's indiscriminate and irresponsible opening Usenet to the unwashed masses via their web interface seems
> mostly negative IMHO.

What I said in different words.

> I know that sounds elitist, but Usenet depends on human common sense to keep it useful and managable,

No it doesnt.

> and that is lost when a big corporate player like Google (or AOL, etc.) decides to dabble.

Depends entirely on the specifics of what they do.

If they actually did something about those who post spam using their
service, what you want wouldnt be lost and would be improved by
attracting those who wouldnt otherwise even be aware that usenet exists.

And its perfectly possible for google to work out what is spam too.

>>> Since Google does nothing about the spam on google groups, most every spammer now uses just google groups.

>> Yes, but so do plenty of non spam posters too.

> Then they can take their chances that people will read their
> messages from SpamCentral. No shoes, no shirt, no service.

Or they can tell fools like that one that his approach is terminally stupid.

>>> If you filter all google group postings,

> Assuming you are using a newsreader that will do that.
> Alas, there is no practical way to do that with OE. :-(

Wrong.

>>> you can filter some 99.9% of all the spam on newsgroups.

>> And lose all the non spam posters who choose to post from there too.

> That's that chance they take. Good luck to them.
> I have little sympathy for them.

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

>> Usenet has faded so far past what it was in its heyday,

> I've been using Usenet since before it's "heyday" and it seems just as useful and vigorous as ever.

Then you need to get your seems machinery seen to.

The volume is WAY down on what it used to be for starters.

> Perhaps it depends on which NGs you're reading.

Nope, and its trivial to use groups.google to prove that.

>> it makes absolutely no sense to lose a great swag of the remaining non spam posters.

> Again, perhaps it depends on which NGs you're talking about.

Nope, and its trivial to use groups.google to prove that.

> But there are so few legitimate posts from Google
> that I wouldn't miss them if they diappeared completely.

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

In spades when you cant even manage to work out which non spam posts are done from there.

== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 4:21 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
>>> Jacques E. Bouchard wrote
>>>> phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote

>>>>> The solution is to put "googlegroups.com" in to match against the
>>>>> message ID header, and block everything that comes from there. Most is spam, some is just lame lusers, and the
>>>>> very few smart
>>>>> people that have been using it because they like web interfaces
>>>>> will figure out another place to post from.

>>>> The solution is to learn to skip messages with titles that are obviously spam. You overestimate the incentive for
>>>> Google Groups users to find a news server.

>>> Google has actually done newsgroups a big favor.

>> Nope.

>>> Since Google does nothing about the spam on google groups, most every spammer now uses just google groups.

>> Yes, but so do plenty of non spam posters too.

>>> If you filter all google group postings, you can filter some 99.9%
>>> of all the spam on newsgroups.

>> And lose all the non spam posters who choose to post from there too.

>> Usenet has faded so far past what it was in its heyday, it makes absolutely no sense to lose a great swag of the
>> remaining non spam posters.

> There so few legit googlegroup postings (essentially negligible) -

Wrong, as always.

> certainly not worth the advantages of not filtering all google group postings..

Wrong, as always.

== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 5:03 pm
From: George Grapman

clams_casino wrote:
>>
> There so few legit googlegroup postings (essentially negligible) -
> certainly not worth the advantages of not filtering all google group
> postings..

I mainly use google groups to catch up on people who may have replied
to my posts in groups that I do not check that often.
It is also a source of amusement when someone makes a claim and
later denies making that claim. When the link to the original claim is
posted they tend to depart the thread.

== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 5:16 pm
From: "Richard Crowley"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote ...
> Richard Crowley <rcrowley@xp7rt.net> wrote
>> I know that sounds elitist, but Usenet depends on human common sense to
>> keep it useful and managable,
>
> No it doesnt.

Sure it does. And Google's lack of attention is precisely what
is causing the problem under discussion right now.

>> and that is lost when a big corporate player like Google (or AOL, etc.)
>> decides to dabble.
>
> Depends entirely on the specifics of what they do.

Which in Google's case, appears to be nothing.
And by their own admission, so it isn't just anecdotal
or circumstantial evidence.

> If they actually did something about those who post spam using their
> service, what you want wouldnt be lost and would be improved by
> attracting those who wouldnt otherwise even be aware that usenet exists.

"those who wouldn't otherwise even be aware that usenet exists"
rarely post anything really useful. Not on the NGs that I read.
And I'm not even talking about the spam messages.

> And its perfectly possible for google to work out what is spam too.

Sure it is. But it costs $$$$ to hire people to use their judgement
to decide who the abusers are and how to block them. Google
doesn't want to do that, so we all suffer from their neglect and/or
apathy. That is the problem in a nutshell.

>> Assuming you are using a newsreader that will do that.
>> Alas, there is no practical way to do that with OE. :-(
>
> Wrong.

Without an actual example, it is just a word.

> You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly
> irrelevant.

I never claimed otherwise, but thanks for noticing. :-)

> The volume is WAY down on what it used to be for starters.

Then I KNOW you are talking about different newsgroups
than I am. I only read less than a dozen newsgroups and
frequently the daily volume is too great to read everything.

It is also springtime here in the northern hemisphere and
more people are doing things outdoors which contributes
to a slight seasonal drop in online traffic. But perhaps you
haven't been using Usenet long enough to notice that.

> You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly
> irrelevant.

Now you're just repeating yourself.

You might have better credibility youself if you weren't claiming a
gmail return address. GoogleGroups and Gmail are the prime
sources of current Usenet spam. More people are blocking
anything from GoogleGroups and/or from people with gmail
addresses. FYI

== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 5:18 pm
From: "Richard Crowley"

"George Grapman" wrote ...
> clams_casino wrote:
>>>
>> There so few legit googlegroup postings (essentially negligible) -
>> certainly not worth the advantages of not filtering all google group
>> postings..
>
> I mainly use google groups to catch up on people who may have replied
> to my posts in groups that I do not check that often.
> It is also a source of amusement when someone makes a claim and later
> denies making that claim. When the link to the original claim is posted
> they tend to depart the thread.

You appear to be refereing to the Archives functionality
which pre-dated Google's online web-based posting
mechanisms.

== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 6:41 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Richard Crowley <rcrowley@xp7rt.net> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Richard Crowley <rcrowley@xp7rt.net> wrote

>>> However Google's indiscriminate and irresponsible opening Usenet to the unwashed masses via their web interface
>>> seems mostly negative IMHO.

>> What I said in different words.

>>> I know that sounds elitist, but Usenet depends on human common sense to keep it useful and managable,

>> No it doesnt.

> Sure it does.

Nope.

> And Google's lack of attention is precisely what
> is causing the problem under discussion right now.

Nothing like what you said previously.

>>> and that is lost when a big corporate player like Google (or AOL, etc.) decides to dabble.

>> Depends entirely on the specifics of what they do.

> Which in Google's case, appears to be nothing.

Yes, but it isnt the only thing they could have done.

So your crap about big corporate players is just that, mindlessly silly crap.

> And by their own admission, so it isn't just anecdotal or circumstantial evidence.

Irrelevant to whether your crap about big corporate players is just that, mindlessly silly crap.

>> If they actually did something about those who post spam using their service, what you want wouldnt be lost and would
>> be improved by attracting those who wouldnt otherwise even be aware that usenet exists.

> "those who wouldn't otherwise even be aware that usenet exists"
> rarely post anything really useful.

Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

In spades with those who come across usenet because of
google and who then contribute to usenet just like the others
have done who have discovered usenet some other way.

> Not on the NGs that I read.

Then you need to get out more.

> And I'm not even talking about the spam messages.

Sure.

>> And its perfectly possible for google to work out what is spam too.

> Sure it is. But it costs $$$$ to hire people to use their judgement
> to decide who the abusers are and how to block them.

Nope, its perfectly feasible to automate the detection of the worst of it.

> Google doesn't want to do that,

Because of the inevitable cost of that stupid approach.

> so we all suffer from their neglect and/or apathy. That is the problem in a nutshell.

But it doesnt have to always be a problem, in spite of your stupid claim.

>>> Assuming you are using a newsreader that will do that.
>>> Alas, there is no practical way to do that with OE. :-(

>> Wrong.

> Without an actual example, it is just a word.

Its also a fact.

>>>>> you can filter some 99.9% of all the spam on newsgroups.

>>>> And lose all the non spam posters who choose to post from there too.

>>> That's that chance they take. Good luck to them.
>>> I have little sympathy for them.

>> You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

> I never claimed otherwise, but thanks for noticing. :-)

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

>>>> Usenet has faded so far past what it was in its heyday,

>>> I've been using Usenet since before it's "heyday" and it seems just as useful and vigorous as ever.

>> Then you need to get your seems machinery seen to.

>> The volume is WAY down on what it used to be for starters.

> Then I KNOW you are talking about different newsgroups than I am.

Nope.

> I only read less than a dozen newsgroups and frequently the daily volume is too great to read everything.

Only if your lips move when you read.

And irrelevant to your stupid claim about whats happened since its heyday anyway.

> It is also springtime here in the northern hemisphere and
> more people are doing things outdoors which contributes
> to a slight seasonal drop in online traffic. But perhaps you
> haven't been using Usenet long enough to notice that.

Been using it since LONG before you ever have thanks.

>>> But there are so few legitimate posts from Google
>>> that I wouldn't miss them if they diappeared completely.

>> You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

> Now you're just repeating yourself.

It sometimes helps with pig ignorant fools like you.

> You might have better credibility youself if you weren't claiming a gmail return address.

Nope. I use it here just because its spam filtering is much better than the
other free alternatives and I prefer not to fart around with munging the address.

> GoogleGroups and Gmail are the prime sources of current Usenet spam.

Irrelevant to whether its useful in that particular situation.

> More people are blocking anything from GoogleGroups and/or from people with gmail addresses.

Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

And even someone as stupid as you should be able to see who does reply to my posts.

> FYI

GTE

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TOPIC: Buying a home in San Jose/San Francisco Bay Area - Great Article
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 2:06 pm
From: RPOD

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TOPIC: Tips And Tricks To Buying A Digital Camera
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 3:14 pm
From: Al Bundy

On May 12, 5:35 pm, davegb <daveg...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On May 12, 8:27 am, tion...@126.com wrote:> Technology is changing fast and not everyone can adopt quickly and
> > welcome the changes. Believe it or not, but there are those who have a
> > problem accepting emails even today though it has become the primary
> > mode of communication. The usage of PDA's to store memos and notes is
> > even less. It comes as no surprise thus that buying a digital camera
> > is gaining acceptance slowly. Most people still prefer a film-based
> > model and sift over only if they have to.
>
> Wake up, Rip! Digital cameras have been outselling film cameras for
> several years now. Sales of film have plummeted. Put the pipe down and
> go take a long walk!

Really folks, the OP is a troll.
I couldn't resist posting because I like cameras.
The poster merely cuts and pastes articles from Wikipedia and so on to
various groups. Remember Ablang? When he first started he was
depressed and couldn't find an American girl to go out with him. When
that angle ran out of steam he just started posting long articles here
and occasionally still does. I can only guess that when such posts
receive replies, it's somehow like having the real friends and
relationships these people lack.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 13 2008 6:25 pm
From: Doug Miller

In article <4827bd74$0$22177$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, rod_speed@yahoo.com says...
> Doug Miller <spambait@milmac.com> wrote:
> > In article <68p9spF2u5d6iU1@mid.individual.net>, "Rod Speed"
> > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Patrick Karl <jpkarl@gmail.com> wrote
> >>> Rod Speed wrote
> >>>> Patrick Karl <jpkarl@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>> Rod Speed wrote
> >>>>>> Patrick Karl <jpkarl@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
> >>>>>>>> Patrick Karl <jpkarl@gmail.com> wrote
> >
> > Alright, children, that's enough.
>
> You get no say what so ever on anything at all, ever, child.

Wrong. I definitely get a say over whether I ever read another post by
either of you little boys again.

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