Frugal Living: Jun 14, 2010

Monday, June 14, 2010

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 25 new messages in 12 topics - digest

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TOPIC: HOT SEX
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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: What I hate about Big Oil
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 6:19 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

What I hate about Big Oil is their incessant campaign to appear
"environmentally friendly." Funny, the drivers of pollution and the
deniers of evolution toward smarter forms of transportation, must
appear to do the opposite.

I will not pick today on BP, which is suffering from a PR nightmare,
but on the other giants that seem to be defending the environment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT9e6H6Y38A

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 11:27 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Jun 14, 11:27 am, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com> wrote:
> On Jun 14, 10:10 am, FatterDumber& Happier Moe
>
> <"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote:
> > Oh hell, get with the program, buy a few shares of BP, you will be
> > glad you did.
>
> I tried that with IBM and it took forever to recover from the
> subsequent stock decline.
>
> Buy stock in companies that are trying to reduce oil consumption such
> as hybrid auto manufacturers or battery manufacturers.

Clever thought. Besides, ALL THOSE SHAREHOLDERS INVESTING IN DIRTY OIL
WILL GO TO HELL!

Hell has an oil platform in the middle and the hellbound will have to
try to stay afloat in a sea of oil while piranhas take bites at them.
Nothing like a shark taking one big bite out of you, you know. Long
agonizing death, like we are guaranteed by polluting the planet.

We, the worshipers of clean energy, will be rewarded by a tropical
unpolluted beach, served by angels in bikinis who will ask us, "Sir,
can I be your guardian angel for the day?"

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 6:23 am
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TOPIC: Where do we get dealer's true cost (invoice?) for a Honda Accord or CRV?

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 7:45 am
From: James

On Jun 13, 4:10 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Vic Smith wrote
>
> > Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote
> >> Your only weapon is the threat of walking out. You must be -- and
> >> explicitly appear to be -- completely unafraid of using that weapon.
> >> The manager won't sign for your price?
> >> Then your asking price is too low. End of story.
> > That about sums it up.
>
> Nope.
>
> The other obvious possibility is that the manager has decided that you can be conned.
>
> Doesnt mean that is true.

Conned or upsold....

What happens in the business office is the saleperson brings the quote
in and the Sales/Business Manager is calculating how much profit is in
the sale, before they approve the deal. Note that if your car is in
high demand, he will have a minimum profit already in his head. On the
other hand, if your car has been on the lot for 11 months, its a dog
to him and he just wants it gone, so he can order another car that
will turn over faster. He may even sell it at a loss.

What the business manager knows is the incentive packages/rebates from
the manufacturer. In many cases they could sell you some vehicles at
invoice cost and make a good profit from these rebates, in other cases
there are no rebates (high demand cars).

If the business manager thinks the profit is too low, they will strong
arm you into buying things like paint protector, rust proofing etc.
They will try to sell you these in any case, but in some cases, they
push harder. These are the most profitable items in the dealership,
with the highest markups, so if you really want them, bargain hard.
These items may have a margin of 50% or more. They usually count on
you being anxious or tired by this point.

Unless you are in desparate need of a car (never tell a salesperson
that), use your power to walk. It takes a sales manager only a minute
or two to calculate the profit in a deal. If they are deliberately
making you wait, walk, and don't go back.

The profit margins on small cars are also small, not much room to
manouvre. The more expensive cars are more profitable on a percentage
basis. Dealer installable add ons also add to the dealer's profit.
Many dealers make most of their profit from service, so if you have
been a loyal service customer, don't forget to mention that.

James

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 11:21 am
From: "Rod Speed"

James wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Vic Smith wrote
>>> Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote

>>>> Your only weapon is the threat of walking out. You must be --
>>>> and explicitly appear to be -- completely unafraid of using
>>>> that weapon. The manager won't sign for your price?

>>>> Then your asking price is too low. End of story.

>>> That about sums it up.

>> Nope.

>> The other obvious possibility is that the manager has decided that you can be conned.

>> Doesnt mean that is true.

> Conned or upsold....

> What happens in the business office is the saleperson brings the quote
> in and the Sales/Business Manager is calculating how much profit is in
> the sale, before they approve the deal. Note that if your car is in
> high demand, he will have a minimum profit already in his head. On the
> other hand, if your car has been on the lot for 11 months, its a dog
> to him and he just wants it gone, so he can order another car that
> will turn over faster. He may even sell it at a loss.

What I said in a lot more words.

And the other obvious variable is what those spivs and con men
decide might be possible with a particular potential buyer too.

> What the business manager knows is the incentive packages/rebates
> from the manufacturer. In many cases they could sell you some vehicles
> at invoice cost and make a good profit from these rebates, in other
> cases there are no rebates (high demand cars).

> If the business manager thinks the profit is too low, they will strong
> arm you into buying things like paint protector, rust proofing etc.

Not even possible to do that with a buyer with a clue.

> They will try to sell you these in any case, but in some cases, they
> push harder. These are the most profitable items in the dealership,
> with the highest markups, so if you really want them, bargain hard.
> These items may have a margin of 50% or more. They usually
> count on you being anxious or tired by this point.

> Unless you are in desparate need of a car (never tell a salesperson
> that), use your power to walk. It takes a sales manager only a
> minute or two to calculate the profit in a deal. If they are
> deliberately making you wait, walk, and don't go back.

> The profit margins on small cars are also small, not much room to
> manouvre. The more expensive cars are more profitable on a percentage
> basis. Dealer installable add ons also add to the dealer's profit.
> Many dealers make most of their profit from service, so if you
> have been a loyal service customer, don't forget to mention that.

So Tegger's original line is just plain wrong, as I said.

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TOPIC: Rechargable batteries and information
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 7:50 am
From: "john hamiliton"

My pocket sized DAB radio eats AAA size batteries like there is no tomorrow.

Maplin are selling so called 'Hybrid' rechargable AAA 800 mAh at four for
£10.99. Whilst Argos are selling four 'ordinary rechargable' AAA 850 mAh at
£5.99 (and 1000 mAh AAA at £14.99, which seems a big jump in proportional
price for another 150 mAh ? )

In this DAB radio situation, would so called *Hybrids* be of any extra
advantage, considering they are practically twice the price of Argos?

Grateful for any advice on the latest state of play with these rechargable
batteries, and any info on where best to buy them from. Thanks.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 8:01 am
From: nospam@ntlworld.com

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:50:35 +0100
"john hamiliton" <bluestarx@mail.invalid> wrote:

> My pocket sized DAB radio eats AAA size batteries like there is no
> tomorrow.
>
> Maplin are selling so called 'Hybrid' rechargable AAA 800 mAh at four
> for �10.99. Whilst Argos are selling four 'ordinary rechargable' AAA
> 850 mAh at �5.99 (and 1000 mAh AAA at �14.99, which seems a big jump
> in proportional price for another 150 mAh ? )
>
> In this DAB radio situation, would so called *Hybrids* be of any
> extra advantage, considering they are practically twice the price of
> Argos?
>
> Grateful for any advice on the latest state of play with these
> rechargable batteries, and any info on where best to buy them from.
>
Hybrids are only really useful in devices that have a very low power
requirement or aren't used for long periods, as they retain charge
better than conventional NiMH. ISTR Lidl was pretty cheap for no-name
NiMH last time I looked.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 8:32 am
From: "Mr. Benn"

<nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:20100614160113.2c9f67c9@bluemoon...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:50:35 +0100
> "john hamiliton" <bluestarx@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
>> My pocket sized DAB radio eats AAA size batteries like there is no
>> tomorrow.
>>
>> Maplin are selling so called 'Hybrid' rechargable AAA 800 mAh at four
>> for �10.99. Whilst Argos are selling four 'ordinary rechargable' AAA
>> 850 mAh at �5.99 (and 1000 mAh AAA at �14.99, which seems a big jump
>> in proportional price for another 150 mAh ? )
>>
>> In this DAB radio situation, would so called *Hybrids* be of any
>> extra advantage, considering they are practically twice the price of
>> Argos?
>>
>> Grateful for any advice on the latest state of play with these
>> rechargable batteries, and any info on where best to buy them from.
>>
> Hybrids are only really useful in devices that have a very low power
> requirement or aren't used for long periods, as they retain charge
> better than conventional NiMH. ISTR Lidl was pretty cheap for no-name
> NiMH last time I looked.

Or even better, 7dayshop.com are usually the cheapest. I buy their own
brand AAs and AAAs for around �4 for a pack of 4. Watch out for retailers
selling lower capacity rechargeables.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 11:50 am
From: CD

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:50:35 +0100, "john hamiliton"
<bluestarx@mail.invalid> wrote:

>Grateful for any advice on the latest state of play with these rechargable
>batteries, and any info on where best to buy them from. Thanks.

Both Lidl & Aldi do them for around �2.79 for 4, I think Lidl also
have a charger bundle currently too. I have loads of them powering
various kids toys & the dect phones with no problems. Just buy 2 sets
for continued listening.

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 12:22 pm
From: "newshound"

"CD" <no@way.ok> wrote in message
news:m7uc16hj7nvmodlba21duidjf9i6ekoru2@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:50:35 +0100, "john hamiliton"
> <bluestarx@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>Grateful for any advice on the latest state of play with these rechargable
>>batteries, and any info on where best to buy them from. Thanks.
>
> Both Lidl & Aldi do them for around �2.79 for 4, I think Lidl also
> have a charger bundle currently too. I have loads of them powering
> various kids toys & the dect phones with no problems. Just buy 2 sets
> for continued listening.

The thing I would strongly recommend is to get one of the slightly more
expensive chargers which senses and recharges individual cells. I get much
better life out of sets of (AA) batteries since I changed over to one of
them.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 1:18 pm
From: "OG"

"john hamiliton" <bluestarx@mail.invalid> wrote in message
news:hv5fke$oj4$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> My pocket sized DAB radio eats AAA size batteries like there is no
> tomorrow.
>
> Maplin are selling so called 'Hybrid' rechargable AAA 800 mAh at four for
> �10.99. Whilst Argos are selling four 'ordinary rechargable' AAA 850 mAh
> at �5.99 (and 1000 mAh AAA at �14.99, which seems a big jump in
> proportional price for another 150 mAh ? )
>
> In this DAB radio situation, would so called *Hybrids* be of any extra
> advantage, considering they are practically twice the price of Argos?
>
> Grateful for any advice on the latest state of play with these rechargable
> batteries, and any info on where best to buy them from. Thanks.

Hybrids are better than ordinary NiMH batteries because they provide a
slightly higher voltage for longer. As it's usually the drop off in voltage
that triggers the 'low battery' warning you may well find that a 850mAh
hybrid will be significantly better than a 1000mAh ordinary one, at least
that's what I've found with my digital camera.

As for where to buy them; Amazon has good prices (4x AAA uniross hybrio for
<�4 and free P&P )

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 2:41 pm
From: "Steve Terry"

"CD" <no@way.ok> wrote in message
news:m7uc16hj7nvmodlba21duidjf9i6ekoru2@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:50:35 +0100, "john hamiliton"
> <bluestarx@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Grateful for any advice on the latest state of play with these rechargable
>>batteries, and any info on where best to buy them from. Thanks.
>
> Both Lidl & Aldi do them for around �2.79 for 4, I think Lidl also
> have a charger bundle currently too. I have loads of them powering
> various kids toys & the dect phones with no problems. Just buy 2 sets
> for continued listening.
>
>
For the money Lidl's Tronic brand NiMh cells are great, only problem
is it's anyone's guess when they are in stock.
My local lidl's have been out of stock of them for the last 6 months

Lots of hi capacity AAA on eBay such as:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8-AAA-1800mAH-Ni-MH-Recycle-Rechargeable-Battery-Purple-/250608816716?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_ConsumerElectronics_Batteries_SM&hash=item3a5973124c

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TOPIC: Car Rental Question-Help
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 7:53 am
From: Mark Ratner

Hello.

I don't own an automobile but will be renting a car soon for a trip.
The fact that I don't own a car means that I don't have car insurance,
either.

I looked at car rates through priceline, and I see that Priceline
offers $11 a day for collision coverage. Should I get this? Would that
be all the insurance I'd need in my case?

Or am I better off getting the insurance that the rental company
offers?

Do I need both collision and liability coverage?

Thanks.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 12:49 pm
From: George

On 6/14/2010 11:08 AM, h wrote:
> "Mark Ratner"<RidgemontRat77884@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a8fdf3dc-3dbd-4dc4-989b-f90fb14c731d@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>> Hello.
>>
>> I don't own an automobile but will be renting a car soon for a trip.
>> The fact that I don't own a car means that I don't have car insurance,
>> either.
>>
>> I looked at car rates through priceline, and I see that Priceline
>> offers $11 a day for collision coverage. Should I get this? Would that
>> be all the insurance I'd need in my case?
>>
>> Or am I better off getting the insurance that the rental company
>> offers?
>>
>> Do I need both collision and liability coverage?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> You don't need any. Insurance is on a vehicle, not a driver. The rental
> company has insurance on their vehicles, so you're covered. You don't have
> to buy their extra coverage, either. You're all set with just the rental
> agreement.
>
>

Auto insurance is on a driver not the vehicle. Ever wonder why they are
so interested in your driving record, age and who else might drive the
car? Additional coverage such as comprehensive is on the vehicle.

http://www.insure.com/car-insurance/non-owners-policy.html

And the OP doesn't have to buy the collision coverage but like all
insurance they need to know if they can afford to pay out of pocket. If
they damage the car they would be liable for the damage plus loss of use.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 8:09 am
From: VFW

In article
<06660c3d-a1b5-4113-82ca-a0a2a7276d3a@5g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
Max <im.1.maxaluminum@xoxy.net> wrote:

> On Jun 13, 2:57�pm, VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote:
> > The story of Jack Herer. �The Emperor of Hemp. �for $.50
> > and;
> >
> > The Emperor Wears No Clothes �
> > Author � Jack Herer
> > Country � United States
> > Language � �English
> > Genre(s) � �Social history
> > Publisher � Ah Ha Publishing,
> > Quick American Archives (11th Edition)
> > Publication date �1985
> > Media type �Print (Paperback)
> > Pages � �330
> > ISBN �0-9524560-0-1
> >
> > The Emperor Wears No Clothes is a book written by Jack Herer. Starting
> > in 1973, Jack Herer took the advice of his friend "Captain" Ed Adair and
> > began compiling tidbits of information about cannabis and its numerous
> > uses.[1] In 1985, after 12 years, this data was published as The Emperor
> > Wears No Clothes. The book is in its eleventh edition, and is often used
> > in cannabis rescheduling and re-legalization efforts.
> >
> > The book, backed by H.E.M.P. (America), Hanf Haus (Germany), Sensi
> > Seeds/Hash, Marihuana & Hemp Museum, Amsterdam, (Netherlands), and
> > T.H.C., the Texas Hemp Campaign (America), offers $100,000 to anyone who
> > can disprove the claims made within. To quote the back cover:
> >
> > � � � �If all fossil fuels and their derivatives, as well as trees for
> > paper and construction were banned in order to save the planet, reverse
> > the Greenhouse Effect and stop deforestation; then there is only one
> > known annually renewable natural resource that is capable of providing
> > the overall majority of the world's paper and textiles; meet all of the
> > world's transportation, industrial and home energy needs, while
> > simultaneously reducing pollution, rebuilding the soil, and cleaning the
> > atmosphere all at the same time... and that substance is -- the same one
> > that did it all before -- Cannabis Hemp... Marijuana!
> > --
> > Money! What a concept.
>
> Maybe they should start printing the currency on hemp to start with.
> Then you could smoke up your cash directly and eliminate the middle
> man.

I've heard the original "Constitution" was printed on hemp paper. And...
It is going up in smoke as we speak.
--
Money! What a concept.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 9:59 am
From: Jeff

VFW <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in
news:georgeswk-03613A.08090814062010@news.toast.net:

> In article
> <06660c3d-a1b5-4113-82ca-a0a2a7276d3a@5g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
> Max <im.1.maxaluminum@xoxy.net> wrote:
>
>> On Jun 13, 2:57 pm, VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote:
>> > The story of Jack Herer. The Emperor of Hemp. for $.50
>> > and;
>> >
>> > The Emperor Wears No Clothes
>> > Author Jack Herer
>> > Country United States
>> > Language English
>> > Genre(s) Social history
>> > Publisher Ah Ha Publishing,
>> > Quick American Archives (11th Edition)
>> > Publication date 1985
>> > Media type Print (Paperback)
>> > Pages 330
>> > ISBN 0-9524560-0-1
>> >
>> > The Emperor Wears No Clothes is a book written by Jack Herer.
>> > Starting in 1973, Jack Herer took the advice of his friend
>> > "Captain" Ed Adair and began compiling tidbits of information about
>> > cannabis and its numerous uses.[1] In 1985, after 12 years, this
>> > data was published as The Emperor Wears No Clothes. The book is in
>> > its eleventh edition, and is often used in cannabis rescheduling
>> > and re-legalization efforts.
>> >
>> > The book, backed by H.E.M.P. (America), Hanf Haus (Germany), Sensi
>> > Seeds/Hash, Marihuana & Hemp Museum, Amsterdam, (Netherlands), and
>> > T.H.C., the Texas Hemp Campaign (America), offers $100,000 to
>> > anyone who can disprove the claims made within. To quote the back
>> > cover:
>> >
>> > ³ If all fossil fuels and their derivatives, as well as trees
>> > for paper and construction were banned in order to save the planet,
>> > reverse the Greenhouse Effect and stop deforestation; then there is
>> > only one known annually renewable natural resource that is capable
>> > of providing the overall majority of the world's paper and
>> > textiles; meet all of the world's transportation, industrial and
>> > home energy needs, while simultaneously reducing pollution,
>> > rebuilding the soil, and cleaning the atmosphere all at the same
>> > time... and that substance is -- the same one that did it all
>> > before -- Cannabis Hemp... Marijuana! --
>> > Money! What a concept.
>>
>> Maybe they should start printing the currency on hemp to start with.
>> Then you could smoke up your cash directly and eliminate the middle
>> man.
>
> I've heard the original "Constitution" was printed on hemp paper.
> And... It is going up in smoke as we speak.

Hemp and flax was the source of most paper at the time and may have been
used for drafts of the Constitution. The actual document in the National
Archives is on parchment (sheepskin).

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 8:10 am
From: VFW

In article
<1e2af65a-8fb5-423c-8286-d71a81cab70e@u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>,
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
Tantra-Hammock" <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jun 13, 1:56 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On 6/13/2010 12:46 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> >
> > Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > > ecent surge in American culture over the world, a few
> > > countries like France and Germany are making plans to slow
> > > Americanization. By raising taxes and tariffs on foreign companies and
> > > investors, these countries are making it harder for American companies
> > > to profit overseas. Also, in Israel, a cultural rebellion is taking
> > > place. The Israeli government, in an attempt to slow down
> > > Americanization, now requires their radio stations to devote half
> > > their airtime to Hebrew songs (6). These are only the exceptions to
> > > the rule of American globalization, though. Americanization is now in
> > > full swing and sees no end in sight, particularly because many
> >
> > So the other countries are taxing/legislating their people into getting
> > to them to do what the government deems is best, not what the people
> > actually want. Sounds about par for the course across the pond.
>
> The problem is "what the people want" is careful crafted by the elites
> and the media.
>
> Do the people want SUVs or bicycles? Whatever they see in movies and
> TV.
>
> Guess...

and;
All these False Flags serve to divide innocent and peaceful people of
the world. The US/Israel are False Flag Automatic Manufacturing
Machines. That is how they exploit and create opportunites to steal,
plunder and murder. Innocent lives are sacrificed and nations ruined,
without these False-Flag scamists batting an eyelid. That is how they
keep other nations down and out of military and financial competition.
Tripoli, Lebanon, which was the Middle-East Financial hub was bombed
into th Stone Age because the Zionists wanted Tel Aviv to replace it.
The Zionist in tandem with the American Congressmen are the most lethal
of liars and make use of the best media and the latest technology of the
world namely, CNN, ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS, Disney, etc.and especially the
UNO to disseminate their lies, slander and calumny to destroy who don't
go along with Washington's terminal rot. This is how Washington and Tel
Aviv have been appeased and how they get their way in scamming the world
in an
everyday basis. And the World does absolutely nothing to this Western
Eternal Midnight.

The NWO is about reviving European Monarchies once again by blue-booded
tyrants and abolishing Parliaments and Constitutional Govts. No more
flirting with frivolous Democracy, Unions of any kinds and Human Rights.
The people will be once again nothing but serfs. There will be nobility
and the serfs. The ex-Monarch kin want their power, domain and kingdoms
back. They are sick and tired of being sidelined by "peasants" who took
over during the Industrial Revolution. They are nostalgic and think and
know they are better than the present populace who run world affairs.
That's why the Russians and Chinese do not seem to be objecting. They
too used to have Monarchies. They are opportunists waiting to see which
way the winds blow. Or their's is a strategic retreat for an eventual
counter-attack. Playing Possum is their trademark.
here's a good read
In this shocking memoir, Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, John
Perkins tells of his own inner journey from willing servant of empire to
impassioned advocate for the rights of oppressed people. Covertly
recruited by the United States National Security Agency and on the
payroll of an international consulting firm, he traveled the world‹to
Indonesia, Panama, Ecuador, Colombia, Saudi Arabia,Iraq, Afghanistan,
Iran and other strategically important countries. His job was to
implement policies that promoted the interests of the U.S.
corporatocracy (a coalition of government, banks, and corporations)
while professing to alleviate poverty‹policies that alienated many
nations and ultimately led to September 11 and growing anti-Americanism.
Within a few weeks of its release , Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
landed onThe New York Times Bestseller List, then 19 other bestseller
lists including the Los Angeles Times, San Francisco Chronicle, USA
Today, Wall Street Journal, and Washington Post. The author has been
interviewed repeatedly on national radio and television shows, including
Amy Goodman's Democracy Now, CSPAN's Book TV, and PBS' Now with David
Brancaccio. And now the book is being published in 9 languages around
the world. According to John Perkins, "It is accomplishing an important
objective in inspiring people to think and talk and to know that we can
change the world."
for more;

http://www.economichitman.com/
--
Money! What a concept.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 2:16 pm
From: Forrest Hodge

On 6/13/2010 4:14 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> On Jun 13, 1:56 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/13/2010 12:46 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>>
>> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>>> ecent surge in American culture over the world, a few
>>> countries like France and Germany are making plans to slow
>>> Americanization. By raising taxes and tariffs on foreign companies and
>>> investors, these countries are making it harder for American companies
>>> to profit overseas. Also, in Israel, a cultural rebellion is taking
>>> place. The Israeli government, in an attempt to slow down
>>> Americanization, now requires their radio stations to devote half
>>> their airtime to Hebrew songs (6). These are only the exceptions to
>>> the rule of American globalization, though. Americanization is now in
>>> full swing and sees no end in sight, particularly because many
>>
>> So the other countries are taxing/legislating their people into getting
>> to them to do what the government deems is best, not what the people
>> actually want. Sounds about par for the course across the pond.
>
> The problem is "what the people want" is careful crafted by the elites
> and the media.
>
> Do the people want SUVs or bicycles? Whatever they see in movies and
> TV.
>
> Guess...
I don't need the movies or TV to tell me that for my wants/needs a car
is a better option than a bicycle. You shouldn't have to be told that
commuting to working on a two lane road, with no real shoulder to speak
of, where traffic (and there is significant traffic) moves at around 50
MPH, is suicidal.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 3:52 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Jun 14, 11:10 am, VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote:

"John Perkins should know—he was an economic hit man. His job was to
convince countries that are strategically important to the U.S.—from
Indonesia to Panama—to accept enormous loans for infrastructure
development, and to make sure that the lucrativeprojects were
contracted to U. S. corporations. Saddled with huge debts, these
countries came under the control of the United States government,
World Bank and other U.S.-dominated aid agencies that acted like loan
sharks—dictating repayment terms and bullying foreign governments into
submission."

***

It sounds like some story I wrote a while back...

HOW THE POLITICAL JUNGLE WORKS
Politics works like this: Big People of Big Country buy Big People of
Little Country, who, by the way, will be elected in "democratic
elections" thanks to big bucks; Big People of Big Country give big
loans* to Little Country (of course, to buy "made in Big Country");
Big People of Little Country pocket a big chunk and invest it in the
Big Country, without ever investing in real development (education,
health, the environment, etc); Little People of Little Country work
for ever to pay back what they never got; Big People of Little Country
thank Big People of Big Country in big ceremony, and promise to repay
the big debt; and Little People of Little Country get big promises,
just like Little People of Big Country. And they lived happily ever
after... (Moral: The Big Fish eats the Little Fish. Well, unless the
Little Fish get organized...)

* Please see "Predatory lending" at...
http://www.odiousdebts.org/odiousdebts/index.cfm?DSP=content&ContentID=17469

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 14 2010 9:23 am
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