Frugal Living: Dec 19, 2010

Sunday, December 19, 2010

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 9 new messages in 6 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Why Losers HAVE TO "Win" - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/cd58fb37f1970f04?hl=en
* REAL HOT SEX PHOTOS&VIDEOS - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/cb906a6c1988eeff?hl=en
* WE NEED A LANE, traffic lane or otherwise - 3 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a684f22d7fa69689?hl=en
* Page Plus $80 card now good for a whole year - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/cd67155713e68432?hl=en
* CAUTION: Time to Repay Obama's Tax Credit!!! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/36950a4593db48fd?hl=en
* (http://www.brandtrade66.com) Discount Nike Air Max 97 Trainers - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/55e60d4f6e5942b5?hl=en

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TOPIC: Why Losers HAVE TO "Win"
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/cd58fb37f1970f04?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 17 2010 7:26 pm
From: Derald

Tru Dat <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote:

>Hint; You are complete and you might just not know it.
>Enjoy the Moment.
>OK?
Hey: If you smoke it all up now there might not be any for
Christmas. 'Tis the season.

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TOPIC: REAL HOT SEX PHOTOS&VIDEOS
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/cb906a6c1988eeff?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 18 2010 2:12 am
From: SHILPA MP4

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TOPIC: WE NEED A LANE, traffic lane or otherwise
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a684f22d7fa69689?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 18 2010 6:11 am
From: Peter Cole

On 12/16/2010 9:23 PM, Forrest Hodge wrote:
> On 12/16/2010 7:39 PM, T�m Sherm�n� �_� > wrote:
>> On 12/16/2010 1:18 PM, Forrest Hodge wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2010 9:37 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane
>>> prophet of the last days before the end of times wrote:
>>>> I want to clarify for all that while I do criticize riding on
>>>> sidewalks I can not recommend that everyone should go on the road
>>>> UNDER THE PRESENT DANGEROUS CONDITIONS.
>>>>
>>>> Bicycles do NOT mix with pedestrians, and they do NOT mix with
>>>> traffic. WE NEED A LANE, traffic lane or otherwise. We need the whole
>>>> lane whenever other lanes are available. When they are not then we
>>>> share the lane.
>>>>
>>>> If they don't like that let them give us some reasonably wide bike
>>>> lanes so we can have a place under the sun. No, we ain't got a place.
>>>> We live in humiliation and danger. It's a long, grinding torture that
>>>> you endure by riding on the road under current dangerous conditions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> "May the sun shine upon you --or at least the moon"
>>>>
>>>> http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE
>>>
>>> How would you feel about say a $25 a year registration fee per bicycle
>>> to pay for these dedicated lanes? Seems fair to me since the roads are
>>> largely paid for with fuel taxes and/or automobile registration fees.
>>
>> Fuel taxes do not pay for local roads. Furthermore, fuel taxes (in the
>> US) do not cover the expense of the military in the Middle East (and
>> there would be no US military presence in the Middle East except for oil
>> and natural gas).
>>
>
> There are federal and *state* taxes on fuel. They do indeed help pay for
> roads. I'll ignore the bit about wars in the middle east as it has
> nothing to do with whether or not bicycles need a lane to themselves.

I think that, in general, federal & state taxes fund principally
highways, and even then only a fraction (e.g. ~60% US federal interstate
funding).

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 18 2010 6:12 am
From: Peter Cole

On 12/16/2010 9:27 PM, T�m Sherm�n� �_� > wrote:
> On 12/16/2010 8:23 PM, Forrest Hodge wrote:
>> On 12/16/2010 7:39 PM, T�m Sherm�n� �_� > wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2010 1:18 PM, Forrest Hodge wrote:
>>>> On 12/16/2010 9:37 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane
>>>> prophet of the last days before the end of times wrote:
>>>>> I want to clarify for all that while I do criticize riding on
>>>>> sidewalks I can not recommend that everyone should go on the road
>>>>> UNDER THE PRESENT DANGEROUS CONDITIONS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bicycles do NOT mix with pedestrians, and they do NOT mix with
>>>>> traffic. WE NEED A LANE, traffic lane or otherwise. We need the whole
>>>>> lane whenever other lanes are available. When they are not then we
>>>>> share the lane.
>>>>>
>>>>> If they don't like that let them give us some reasonably wide bike
>>>>> lanes so we can have a place under the sun. No, we ain't got a place.
>>>>> We live in humiliation and danger. It's a long, grinding torture that
>>>>> you endure by riding on the road under current dangerous conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> "May the sun shine upon you --or at least the moon"
>>>>>
>>>>> http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE
>>>>
>>>> How would you feel about say a $25 a year registration fee per bicycle
>>>> to pay for these dedicated lanes? Seems fair to me since the roads are
>>>> largely paid for with fuel taxes and/or automobile registration fees.
>>>
>>> Fuel taxes do not pay for local roads. Furthermore, fuel taxes (in the
>>> US) do not cover the expense of the military in the Middle East (and
>>> there would be no US military presence in the Middle East except for oil
>>> and natural gas).
>>>
>>
>> There are federal and *state* taxes on fuel. They do indeed help pay for
>> roads. I'll ignore the bit about wars in the middle east as it has
>> nothing to do with whether or not bicycles need a lane to themselves.
>
> Bicycle lanes are a ghetto for cyclists. What is needed is vigorous
> prosecution of motorists who do not respect the rights of others.
>

We can't have both?

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 18 2010 6:14 am
From: Peter Cole

On 12/17/2010 12:01 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 12/16/10 18:27, T�m Sherm�n� �_� > wrote:
>
>> On 12/16/2010 8:23 PM, Forrest Hodge wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2010 7:39 PM, T�m Sherm�n� �_�> wrote:
>>>> On 12/16/2010 1:18 PM, Forrest Hodge wrote:
>>>>> How would you feel about say a $25 a year registration fee per bicycle
>>>>> to pay for these dedicated lanes? Seems fair to me since the roads are
>>>>> largely paid for with fuel taxes and/or automobile registration fees.
>
> I'd be willing to bet that most cyclists buy gas for one or more cars
> and that the bikes don't destroy the roads anywhere near as fast as cars
> do.
>
>> Bicycle lanes are a ghetto for cyclists. What is needed is vigorous
>> prosecution of motorists who do not respect the rights of others.
>
> What else is needed is for cities to NOT paint stupid 'bicycle lanes'
> that carry no legal weight whatsoever -- you can drive in them, park in
> them, whatever. Our city engineer said that their only real effect is to
> slow traffic down, something the shitheads always seem to want to do.

If only it were true.

> If cities REALLY wanted to be nice to bicyclists they'd sweep the
> streets more often so you don't have to decide among stopping, bashing
> into the passing car or riding through glass. And they could fix the
> potholes while they're at it.

Can't we have both? How about we just fix the potholes in the bike lanes?

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TOPIC: Page Plus $80 card now good for a whole year
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/cd67155713e68432?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 18 2010 7:20 am
From: imascot

"terrable" <terrable@terrable.net> wrote in
news:KqVOo.4471$bt.3715@newsfe08.iad:

>
> "imascot" <imnot@mycomputer.now> wrote in message
> news:4d0be3b4$0$31275$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> Apparently, as of Dec. 9, Page Plus $80 refill cards (2,000 minutes)
>> are now valid for a whole year,
>> instead of the standard 120 days. From their website:
>>
>> $80 Standard Plan PINs Now Good For One Year
>>
>> $80 Standard plan cards/PINs loaded on or after December 9th, 2010
>> are now good for one year. They
>> previously expired 120 days from the day they were loaded. The
>> one-year term is for the $80 PIN only
>> - the $10, $25 and $50 Standard plan PINs still carry a 120-day term.
>> $80 Standard plan PINs are only
>> available from authorized Page Plus dealers and online stores. They
>> are not offered for sale on this
>> website or by calling Customer Service. Use the store locator to find
>> a dealer near you or do an Internet
>> search for online retailers.
>>
>> J.
>>
>
> Thanks for the updated information. It would be nice if Page Plus make
> all refill cards valid for a year.
>
>

Yeah, I'd even be excited if they just included the $50 card. $80 a year is still more than a lot of Page
Plus users spend currently; after all, you can get away with spending $40 a year.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 18 2010 9:58 am
From: Derald

imascot <imnot@mycomputer.now> wrote:

>$80 a year is still more than a lot of Page
>Plus users spend currently; after all, you can get away with spending $40 a year.
$30. That's me. I have two Pageplus numbers that get very little
use so I'm way-y-y ahead on minutes. In fact, one of the accounts does
not have a working phone; I just pay the $2.50/mo to keep the local
telephone number "just in case" DW decides she wants a cell phone
again. Nowadays, it takes more than cell phone minutes to excite me,
though....
--
Derald

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TOPIC: CAUTION: Time to Repay Obama's Tax Credit!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/36950a4593db48fd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Dec 18 2010 9:36 am
From: Just Visiting

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