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TOPIC: How to unshrink all-leather work gloves (deerskin, goatskin, no cowhide)
?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ff72ebee0a5c4b5e?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 15 2011 10:16 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 04/15/11 18:11, Dennis wrote:
> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 04/10/11 20:19, Mel Knight wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 19:59:10 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> I've got some nice goatskin gardening gloves, but they're too good to
>>>> use :-) I used to turn them inside out (like the rest of the dirtbags)
>>>> and use them for motorcycle gloves.
>>>
>>> My motorcycle gloves are kangaroo.
>>>
>>> What does turning goatskin gloves inside out actually do for you?
>>>
>>> I'm curious.
>>
>>Puts the seams on the outside and the smooth side on the indside. What
>>you don't want in gloves for dirtriding is skin-abrading seams.
>
> Can you turn turquoise suede go-go boots inside out?
Wow! My choices in footwear have clearly made quite an impression on you!
To answer your question, no.
Life used to be lots better, didn't it?
--
Cheers, Bev
===============================================
"If God had wanted us to use the metric system,
Jesus would have had 10 apostles."
- Jesse Helms
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 12:36 am
From: "John Weiss"
Dennis wrote:
>
> Can you turn turquoise suede go-go boots inside out?
Sure! Elvis can tell you how!
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 6:37 am
From: Jesus Mommywas13
On Apr 15, 7:16 pm, The Real Bev <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 04/10/11 20:19, Mel Knight wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 19:59:10 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
> >> I've got some nice goatskin gardening gloves, but they're too good to
> >> use :-) I used to turn them inside out (like the rest of the dirtbags)
> >> and use them for motorcycle gloves.
>
> > My motorcycle gloves are kangaroo.
>
> > What does turning goatskin gloves inside out actually do for you?
>
> > I'm curious.
>
> Puts the seams on the outside and the smooth side on the indside. What
> you don't want in gloves for dirtriding is skin-abrading seams.
>
> --
> Cheers, Bev
> ==========================================================
> "It's no piece of cake, but it sure beats listening to Ted
> Kennedy on the Senate floor."
> - Jesse Helms describing heart surgery
Then fuck it. Nothing like stretching out an old piece of leather.
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TOPIC: The Bermuda Triangle of Cycling: L.A. to N.Y. to Miami
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 5:11 am
From: Peter Cole
On 4/15/2011 11:20 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>> Texas, on
>> the other hand, falls in the triangle and many bad things are heard
>> from there.
>
> Texans might not have the highest cycling rate but the State of Texas
> has many thousands of miles of service roads that are almost free of
> motorists, at least out side of city limits.
>
> Most of the roads in TX have generous shoulders and/or broad emergency
> lanes.
>
> Texans are not generally malicious and will try to avoid striking a
> cyclist.
>
> Try to remember, Lance is from Texas.
Yeah, but that's not what he said about riding in Texas, or at least
around Austin.
>
>
> Bret Cahill
>
>
== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 6:44 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On Apr 15, 11:20 pm, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Texas, on
> > the other hand, falls in the triangle and many bad things are heard
> > from there.
>
> Texans might not have the highest cycling rate but the State of Texas
> has many thousands of miles of service roads that are almost free of
> motorists, at least out side of city limits.
>
> Most of the roads in TX have generous shoulders and/or broad emergency
> lanes.
>
> Texans are not generally malicious and will try to avoid striking a
> cyclist.
>
> Try to remember, Lance is from Texas.
>
> Bret Cahill
I was inspired by Opus the Poet and he has some pretty scary stories
to tell us. Besides it was one of the few states that refused to give
3' of clearance to cyclists, not that it means anything but it goes to
show that they want to avoid liability for drivers at all costs.
Elite and mundane cyclists have nothing in common but their two
wheels. The wannabe Lances often travel in pack and travel fast almost
at the speed of the cars. Regrettably their sport is good for their
heart rates, but not much to substitute the car, as they are likely to
use an SUV to launch a bike.
We have those here in Key Biscayne as a microcosm of the real world of
cycling, ie. that one done on sidewalks in order to survive. Elite
cyclists are often elitist but not always, quoting someone that made
the distinction.
The Bermuda Triangle still is a good point of reference and the NW
Pacific Coast is exceptionally good by comparison.
== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 7:46 am
From: Opus
On Apr 16, 8:44 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>snip<
> I was inspired by Opus the Poet and he has some pretty scary stories
> to tell us. Besides it was one of the few states that refused to give
> 3' of clearance to cyclists, not that it means anything but it goes to
> show that they want to avoid liability for drivers at all costs.
>
I have noticed a big difference between the treatment I get from
drivers in cities, particularly the one I live in, and rural areas.
Drivers in rural areas tend to pass further away and have much less
hostility than their city mouse cousins. Unfortunately almost all the
riding I have done in the last 3 years has been within 5 miles of my
house.
And it wasn't Texas that refused to pass the Vulnerable Road Users
law, it was Rick Perry, our very own Gov. Goodhair.
== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 8:11 am
From: Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net">
On 4/13/2011 6:05 AM, ATP wrote:
> "Harry Brogan"<hbroganjr@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:jlk9q69stqlc1401nm3pit67jarm9fmns2@4ax.com...
>> [...]
>> Seems that ALL of those delivery riders do it on a day to day basis.
>> And I am sure that they have their problems. But, if it's as bad as
>> YOU say it is, businesses like that wouldn't last long....
>
> I just joined the thread. I'm not sure how bad it is, but those businesses
> can keep on going as long as there are young men willing to be messengers.
The real enemies of the bicycle messenger business are scanners, PDFs,
electronic signatures, and email.
--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 9:12 am
From: "ATP"
"T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net"> wrote in
message news:iocbi6$4cn$2@dont-email.me...
> On 4/13/2011 6:05 AM, ATP wrote:
>> "Harry Brogan"<hbroganjr@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>> news:jlk9q69stqlc1401nm3pit67jarm9fmns2@4ax.com...
>>> [...]
>>> Seems that ALL of those delivery riders do it on a day to day basis.
>>> And I am sure that they have their problems. But, if it's as bad as
>>> YOU say it is, businesses like that wouldn't last long....
>>
>> I just joined the thread. I'm not sure how bad it is, but those
>> businesses
>> can keep on going as long as there are young men willing to be
>> messengers.
>
> The real enemies of the bicycle messenger business are scanners, PDFs,
> electronic signatures, and email.
>
True, although a few things will still have to be delivered by hand. I was
just thinking that accidents aren't such a problem for the companies if the
messengers work as independent contractors and can be replaced. The
companies don't bear the cost of the accidents as I doubt many (if any) are
regular employees with worker's comp.
== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 11:27 am
From: "Trevor A Panther"
Top posted deliberately
And I wish you lot would stop cross posting this USA stuff on to
"uk.rec.cycling"
It is to, say the least, a total PIA!
You will note that I have deleted "urc" from the list in this response
--
From
Trevor A Panther
In South Yorkshire,
England, United Kingdom
www.tapan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
"Peter Cole" <peter_cole@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ioc11d$fpr$1@dont-email.me...
> On 4/15/2011 11:20 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>> Texas, on
>>> the other hand, falls in the triangle and many bad things are heard
>>> from there.
>>
>> Texans might not have the highest cycling rate but the State of Texas
>> has many thousands of miles of service roads that are almost free of
>> motorists, at least out side of city limits.
>>
>> Most of the roads in TX have generous shoulders and/or broad emergency
>> lanes.
>>
>> Texans are not generally malicious and will try to avoid striking a
>> cyclist.
>>
>> Try to remember, Lance is from Texas.
>
> Yeah, but that's not what he said about riding in Texas, or at least
> around Austin.
>
>>
>>
>> Bret Cahill
>>
>>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5veo82u
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=bx9S-KnH4m4C&lpg=PA18&ots=slekrz9id5&dq=lance%20armstrong%20struck%20by%20truck%20driver&pg=PA19#v=onepage&q&f=false
>
== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 1:41 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Trevor A Panther" <tapan@Psantispamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Aclqp.4178$Ir.118@newsfe13.ams2...
> Top posted deliberately
>
>
> And I wish you lot would stop cross posting this USA stuff on to
> "uk.rec.cycling"
>
> It is to, say the least, a total PIA!
>
> You will note that I have deleted "urc" from the list in this response
Your problem is with just one poster who goes by the moniker of "Tibetan
Monkey". I know for a fact that your newsgroup (URC) is as fucked up as any
in the world, but I do sympathize with what we all have to put up with
because of one gigantic idiot, i.e. TM! Figure out how to get rid of him and
the rest of us will be eternally grateful.
--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 6:53 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On Apr 16, 11:11 am, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net"> wrote:
> On 4/13/2011 6:05 AM, ATP wrote:
>
> > "Harry Brogan"<hbroga...@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> >news:jlk9q69stqlc1401nm3pit67jarm9fmns2@4ax.com...
> >> [...]
> >> Seems that ALL of those delivery riders do it on a day to day basis.
> >> And I am sure that they have their problems. But, if it's as bad as
> >> YOU say it is, businesses like that wouldn't last long....
>
> > I just joined the thread. I'm not sure how bad it is, but those businesses
> > can keep on going as long as there are young men willing to be messengers.
>
> The real enemies of the bicycle messenger business are scanners, PDFs,
> electronic signatures, and email.
How about if you want to deliver some pot on time?
I learned that from Quicksilver.
== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 6:55 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On Apr 16, 2:27 pm, "Trevor A Panther"
<ta...@Psantispamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Top posted deliberately
>
> And I wish you lot would stop cross posting this USA stuff on to
> "uk.rec.cycling"
>
> It is to, say the least, a total PIA!
>
> You will note that I have deleted "urc" from the list in this response
>
> --
> From
> Trevor A Panther
> In South Yorkshire,
> England, United Kingdomwww.tapan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk"Peter Cole" <peter_c...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ioc11d$fpr$1@dont-email.me...
>
> > On 4/15/2011 11:20 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
> >>> Texas, on
> >>> the other hand, falls in the triangle and many bad things are heard
> >>> from there.
>
> >> Texans might not have the highest cycling rate but the State of Texas
> >> has many thousands of miles of service roads that are almost free of
> >> motorists, at least out side of city limits.
>
> >> Most of the roads in TX have generous shoulders and/or broad emergency
> >> lanes.
>
> >> Texans are not generally malicious and will try to avoid striking a
> >> cyclist.
>
> >> Try to remember, Lance is from Texas.
>
> > Yeah, but that's not what he said about riding in Texas, or at least
> > around Austin.
>
> >> Bret Cahill
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/5veo82u
>
> >http://books.google.com/books?id=bx9S-KnH4m4C&lpg=PA18&ots=slekrz9id5...
The UK is not a full political entity without America. It's tied by
the ocean and some other common interests.
For example, English.
== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 6:57 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On Apr 16, 4:41 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Trevor A Panther" <ta...@Psantispamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in messagenews:Aclqp.4178$Ir.118@newsfe13.ams2...
>
> > Top posted deliberately
>
> > And I wish you lot would stop cross posting this USA stuff on to
> > "uk.rec.cycling"
>
> > It is to, say the least, a total PIA!
>
> > You will note that I have deleted "urc" from the list in this response
>
> Your problem is with just one poster who goes by the moniker of "Tibetan
> Monkey". I know for a fact that your newsgroup (URC) is as fucked up as any
> in the world, but I do sympathize with what we all have to put up with
> because of one gigantic idiot, i.e. TM! Figure out how to get rid of him and
> the rest of us will be eternally grateful.
Listen, my wisdom has gone as far as Tibet, why not the UK?
Nobody, but nobody is hiding from the truth. Not even you in
Minnesota.
== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 7:17 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On Apr 16, 10:46 am, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 8:44 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >snip<
> > I was inspired by Opus the Poet and he has some pretty scary stories
> > to tell us. Besides it was one of the few states that refused to give
> > 3' of clearance to cyclists, not that it means anything but it goes to
> > show that they want to avoid liability for drivers at all costs.
>
> I have noticed a big difference between the treatment I get from
> drivers in cities, particularly the one I live in, and rural areas.
> Drivers in rural areas tend to pass further away and have much less
> hostility than their city mouse cousins. Unfortunately almost all the
> riding I have done in the last 3 years has been within 5 miles of my
> house.
>
> And it wasn't Texas that refused to pass the Vulnerable Road Users
> law, it was Rick Perry, our very own Gov. Goodhair.
That's a dangerous governor, I tell you.
Opus, use the Wisdom of the Jungle or common sense and you will see
some hidden dangers on country roads. Firstly, they don't expect bikes
there. Secondly, they may be half sleep. And thirdly, you won't
receive any aid in a hit and run.
I think we have to survive in our Urban Jungle waiting for a miracle.
Well, it's not miracle if we work together to make it happen. ;)
What are the news of the day, according to your record of incidents
and accidents, which are not accidents but preventable incidents.
Incidents are close calls and accidents require a lawyer or
undertaker.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 11:59 am
From: walt tonne
On Apr 13, 9:04 pm, walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f007p5LAM_o
And we have spent almost 1 billion on the latest adverture, chasing
Mummnar
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